Take It or Leave It Challenge - August 2010
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One of my favorite events every year is the National Book Festival on the National Mall in Washington, DC. In celebration of the 10th anniversary of this exciting event, I’d like to dedicate August’s TIOLI challenge to the authors who will be making their appearance in this year's book festival. Follow this link to find a list of the authors:
Then, after looking through the Library of Congress website, Read a Book by a 2010 National Book Festival Author. The author chosen MUST be of this year’s festival and NOT of a previous year’s festival! (Note to myself: 69 authors as of 6/30/10)
If you have a chance, please attend this exciting (and free!) event to hear the authors in person as well as join me for our Fourth Annual joint Bookcrossing-LibraryThing Meet-Up (Saturday, September 25, 2010, at 2pm - on the right hand side steps to the Museum of Natural History). If you cannot come to the event, please check out the author podcasts on the Library of Congress website after the event. They’re terrific.
Here are some books I’ve much enjoyed in the past:
Everything is Illuminated – Jonathan Safran Foer
Snow – Orhan Pamuk
Native Speaker – Chang-rae Lee
Feed – M.T. Anderson
My Invented Country – Isabel Allende
Here are some books I think look interesting:
Allegra Goodman – Intuition
Wild Ginger - Anchee Min
Three Junes – Julia Glass
The Pencil – Henry Petroski
A Book of One’s Own – Thomas Mallon
For your listening enjoyment, here are some podcasts from previous festivals.
Enjoy your book picks. I hope to meet some of you in real life this September at the National Book Festival!
The August 2010 Wiki and Index of Challenges
Other Fun Stuff (not part of the TIOLI challenge):
1. The August 2010 TIOLI Meter
2. The Challenge Within the Challenge
3. I Know I'm a TIOLI Addict When...
You are the first to spy out the August challenge, Kerry. I always wonder who it will be. :)
The list of authors may not yet be complete. There may be cancellations as well, but I think we'll need to let those stand as it would not be fair for someone to read a book by one author only to not have that TIOLI book count because the author cancelled an appearance at the festival in the last minute.
Yes, I was quick, but then it's the middle of the afternoon here.
I've also posted an Other World challenge - to read a book set in either a fantasy or alternate world, or on another planet.
I'll be reading Lene Kaaberbøl's Silverhorse.
Oh, that'll be good. There was a post in the July TIOLI thread by someone looking for a fantasy read. You jumped right in with one, I see!
I also have a fantasy read, but a slightly different definition of the word...
My challenge is, Read a book whose title completes the sentence, I would like to be...
For example, I would like to be dancing in the streets. I would like to be by the sea.
To make it an even twistier challenge, I ask that the sentence should be true for you. So, for me, it would be true to say that I would like to be lighthousekeeping. But I would not like to be touching the void.
Good choice, Terri ... except for if the title jinxes me and brings wind, rain, flood, etc! It's been an odd year here in Maryland (as elsewhere) for freak weather.
an even twistier challenge
Clever idea, Margaret!
My challenge will be to Read a novel from the 2010 Man Booker Prize longlist. The longlisted novels can be found here on LT, and on the Guardian's Booker Prize page.
For Madeline's challenge, I'll plan to read Versed by Rae Armantrout, which won this year's Pulitzer Prize for Poetry. I assume that I'll have no problem finding this book in the Bay Area, since she's from nearby Vallejo.
Er, Christina. Perhaps you should change that title a bit *on the wiki* so that others coming later will know what you mean. When I read it there, I didn't have the foggiest notion of what you were asking!!
You can give it a clever title (like Stasia does), but then tell *exactly* what you want (or people will interpret it in all different ways).
ETA: Cool idea!
#17: I think Versed as in poetry. I'll let you know tomorrow, after I pick it up from City Lights.
#11, liking this one. I think there should be a special bonus for whoever can find the longest title that fits this challenge...
If it's not what you want, Darryl, you can always write a prescription. :D
That reminds me... I used to go to a gynecologist who would discuss books with me whenever I went for a checkup. He, too, was an avid reader. He always wanted to know what I was reading and often would recommend books for me to read by writing their titles on his prescription pad!
I think there should be a special bonus for whoever can find the longest title that fits this challenge...
Oh, yeah! That would be a fun special award for this month. I'm highlighting that suggestion.
aargh, I missed the bit about authors. Back to the drawing board!
I've really started to enjoy walking at our local botanical garden. For August, my challenge will be to read a book(s) with the word "walk" in the title.
Just to clarify, "walk" can be part of a word so that Walking in the Rain would be fine.
The intriguing one, for me, is the one about title/author with no "e" in it. Hmmmm. That will be a challenge.
How about Pull Up a Chair: The Vin Scully Story by Curt Smith?
Aaagh, Christina's "no e"" challenge is driving me mad! I just added Potiki but then came here and realised that it doesn't work.
Edited to add that I've just gone right through the bookshelves - before I have breakfast or coffee - and have ONE book with no e - and it's 600+ pages... A Distant Mirror by Barbara Tuchman. I'm going to add it.
Snow by Orhan Pamuk also works, but mine is in a box in New Zealand and I got stuck after about 250 pages last time I tried it!
Ooh, amazing what a cup of coffee will do - I looked in the "by the bed" stack of books that I want to try soon and found A Good Land by Nada Awar Jarrar. It's about Lebanon during the Civil War and looks excellent.
I've added two challenges - I will have to post more detail tonight but they are:
#9: Read a historical mystery
This is a mystery novel set totally in the past (not books which have a present day storyline) - I'm not going to set a date - there are historical mysteries set in the 1960s and even 1970s which use period details, and differences in social attitudes and/or methods of investigation. The sleuth/investigator character can be amateur or professional.
#10: Read a "Classic"
Lots of publishers have a range of acknowledged literary classics or reprints of novels that have been forgotten - this can be any publication in a publisher's classics series - examples - Virago Modern Classics, Penguin Modern Classics, Penguin Classics, Persephone, Prion Humour Classics, New York Review of Books...
I want to add the challenge
#11 Read a book in a genre seldom visited
such as romance, science fiction, western, steampunk
for which I'm going to read Lonsome Dove by Larry McMurtry a western
now, how do I post the challenge?
#30: Joyce, you go to the wiki page that Madeline gives the link to in the first post. On the wiki page, just click edit and list your challenge at the bottom, following the numbering scheme.
Yay August is up! jumps up and down
Off to go find a book with no 'eeeeez'
I have several Isabel Allendes I want to catch up with! If others are reading her I'll probably try to choose the same book.
I've added a few. Now to try to finish off July's last book before I can get on with these...
christiguc: For your challenge, does a book that has "a novel" at the end count as an E? That's more of a discriptor than an actual part of the title. Also, I really hope the original name of your challenge is a Gilmore Girls reference :-)
>30 Oh Joyce, you are in for a ride with Lonesome Dove!!! I absolutely adored that book when I read it last month - and I am definitely NOT a reader of westerns.
I totally admit to designing a challenge to fit a book - but must read my ER book this month!!! and other selections are already crowding it out.
> Thanks, Terri.
I just fixed the link, but I'm sad to discover that the list of podcasts has been whittled down to just a few authors from the past three years. They used to have many more authors' podcasts available. I'm so sorry to see that the podcast of Tim O'Brien from last year's festival is no longer available. He was terrific! :(
I've added my first list of books.
Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck: TIOLI classic and due for my book club on the 14th
Consider Phlebas - Iain M Banks: TIOLI set in another world - points!!
Snow Crash - Neal Stephenson: TIOLI weather in title
Point of Impact - Stephen Hunter: TIOLI spy - the lead character is a sniper, but the CIA is involved so I suspect there is some spying going on. The movie Shooter was based on this book.
Oh goody - Martha Grimes is one of the authors so I'll add The Man With a Load of Mischief. I'm trying to make August a month of reading what I own, after a wonderful Library filled July.
I had to remove the index of challenges from message #1 above because all of the links and touchstones were making it impossible to edit that post any more. Not to fear! The list of challenges is indexed at the top of the wiki page.
I *love* everyone's wide variety of challenges for August.
My personal favorite is christiguc's "No e" challenge. I especially like it because, when seeking a book to read, one has no idea of what book will be found. Way to go, Christina!!
Kidzdoc is wonderful in that he always finds a way to get us to read some of the finest contemporary literature. Thanks for that, Darryl!
For anyone thinking of doing elkiedee's Classics challenge, I highly recommend Dracula by Bram Stoker. I thought it was such a great read. This is coming from someone who almost never reads classics, mysteries, or vampire novels. Just don't miss it!
For "Challenge #11: Read A Book in a Genre Seldom Visited " I'd suggest including the genre next to the book. Like for
1.Lonesome Dove - Larry McMurtry (western) - Citizenjoyce-fi
Challenge #13: Overlooked Challenge: Read a book published before this month that has 25 or less copies on LibraryThing (note number of copies when you add the book to the list) As long as the book is on the wiki, then it can be read regardless of sudden massive increase of copies.
Good timing, Mike! I was wondering where to put my ER book for this month. :)
Was your ER book published before this month? :)
So far I have added:
A partial series for my own challenge, plus:
Challenge 1: Read a book by a 2010 National Book Festival Author - started by SqueakyChu
Jackdraws - Ken Follett - MikeBriggs
The Man With a Load of Mischief - Martha Grimes - MikeBriggs (shared read)
Presumed Innocent - Scott Turow - MikeBriggs
Challenge 12: Read a non-fiction book about (or set in) a country other than your own - started by teelgee
The Road to Andorra - Shirley Deane - MikeBriggs
I'm interested in your planned Michael Z Lewin read - I bought a lot of his books after seeing him do an event with Peter Lovesey and the wonderful Liza Cody a few years ago - he has a series about a PI in Indianapolis and another one though I believe he's now settled in England.
The one set in England is Lunghi Family series set in Bath England. It is about a family detective agency. Those are the only two books I have read by Lewin and I quite enjoyed them. The first book in the series, Family Business, I gave 4.60 stars to, and the second book, Family Planning, I gave 5 stars to. Both fit the Overlooked Challenge.
4 copies on LT for Family Planning and 5 copies on LT for Family Business.
I found Lewin through short stories in various mystery magazines starring the Lunghi Family. I would have continued reading him, but the only other book I had for him was the third book in the Albert Samson series (PI, Indianapolis). I finally ordered, used, the first two books, plus the fourth. Despite ordering at the same time, one arrived two days later, and the first book in the series appears to not be arriving until about August 14th.
There is also the Lt. Leroy Powder police series, also set in Indianapolis. Other than it being set in Indianapolis, and having Lt. Leroy Powder in them, I do not know anything about the series.
A character in the Samson series stars in her own book, And Baby Will Fall. I have not been able to figure out if that was a one-off or if there are other books starring Adele Buffington.
I rather hope I like the Lewin books. I have been somewhat holding back examining him further as the I didn't want to be disappointed.
Peter Lovesey is another of those authors I rather enjoy, and have read most of his books. His son, Phil Lovesey, has four of his own books out. All of which would qualify for the Overlooked Challenged, and all of them recommendable.
Another recommendation for a Classic is Grapes of Wrath. I have just started it so I can't speak to the entire reading experience, but it is very easy to read and interesting so far.
Was your ER book published before this month?
Mike!! No!!! It hasn't even been published yet. You got me on that one! :D
*runs to quickly get it off the wiki*
ETA: Now how will I *ever* get that book read? ;)
>4: Thanks, avatiakh - I might have to monopolise this challenge, to get anywhere on the frog meter!
53> I should probably add some kind of exception for debut works. I was just trying to get something like James Patterson's latest, almost certain to move past 25 copies relatively quickly, from being in the challenge. Since it is Overlooked Challenge.
Wesley the Owl by Stacey O'Brien to the Genre seldom visited. I notice that the first two books in that challenge (11) include birds. (the owl and the dove from Lonesome Dove).
Mike, I'd recommend that you keep it *just* as it is now and keep your eye out for others who don't meet the parameters of your challenge. It's all in the name of fun!
I notice that the first two books in that challenge (11) include birds. (the owl and the dove from Lonesome Dove).
Another challenge could be: A Genre Seldom Visited with the Name of a Bird in the Title. ;)
You might notice that I've edited some of your challenge titles. I'm doing this for clarity and to make it easier for others to scan that list quickly with understanding of what's requested.
Of course, there are those like myself, who edit the parameters but don't read them! :D
Ooh...that 'e' challenge was frustrating, but I found one on my TBR shelf! A Word Child by Iris Murdoch. Actually, I also found Lolita, but I'm not sure if I want to read that right now, but others may want to use the suggestion.
I also like the weather challenge. I'd like to track down a copy of Cloud Atlas as I've been meaning to read that for a while.
Not too many of the books I got from the library fit in with any of these challenges. Hmm..decisions, decisions.
Looking through my library for the no 'e' challenge...So far I've got Jodi Picoult's Plain Truth and Vanishing Acts; All Is Vanity by Christina Schwarz; and A Civil Action by Jonathan Harr... it's a fun one just in terms of determining which books fit the challenge. I very well may opt for a Picoult...
Here are a few more from my library of unread books:
Miss Wyoming by Douglas Coupland
Itsuka by Joy Kogawa
Song of Solomon and Jazz by Toni Morrison
Bastard Out of Carolina by Dorothy Allison
Clara Callan by Richard B. Wright
That's quite a few I have to choose from (if I want to make this count for my Books off the Shelf challenge). I think Vanishing Acts is the front runner for now... but I'll see what everyone else is reading and may opt for something that is already being read...
Ooh...that 'e' challenge was frustrating,
That's what I love about it. It's so tight!! That reminds me of when I play Scrabble with my friends and I "close off" the board by not allowing many places on which to build new words. I have perverse fun with that! :)
Yes...I did mean frustratingly fun!
And I did see that Rebecca Stead fits with the National Book Festival challenge (yey!) and I just took out When You Reach Me from the library.
One of the authors at the National Book Festival is Timothy Egan. His book about the 1930s Dust Bowl, The Worst Hard Time was fantastic.
It's amazing how hard the no e's is - though I've been meaning to read I'm Not Complaining by Ruth Adam (a Virago Modern Classic) for a while and might do it for this one.
Yea for the Overlooked Challenge I also get to add my ER book Talk Softly by Cynthia O'Neal published in May of this year, 11 copies listed. Whew, wondered where I'd fit it.
Thanks Mike for the suggestion to name the genre in my challenge (and also for the the bird sub-genre).
teelgee, I think your raving about the book is the reason I'm reading Lonesome Dove; that and the fact that we're going on a dude ranch vacation in 2 weeks and a western seemed a very appropriate read for the month.
Is there an easy way to see which books in my catalogue have fewer than 25 copies on LT? There must be... but I can't see it!
I have a question about 2 of the challenges:
For the book without the letter "e", are subtitles included in this or are we just looking at the title?
Looks like I can fit the Steig Larsson trilogy (which I was determined to finally get to in August) into the "I would like to be ..." challenge:
The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo
The Girl Who Played with Fire
The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet's Nest
#26/26 Phooey. My no eeez book does have an E, after all, in the subtitle.
Still on the lookout for a book/author with no E.
@ cmt, in the far right hand column, there are the total # of books owned by LTers next to the "person's head" icon
Linda -- South of Broad, Pat Conroy? I would add it myself, but I'm already overextended for the month!
> 11, 67
For the book without the letter "e", are subtitles included in this or are we just looking at the title?
We need clarification of this. In addition, what about books that have the subtitle "A Novel" ?
#69 Goddesspt2, thanks - but I meant can I sort on that field somehow? I have 900 books to look through...
South of Broad, Pat Conroy?
Brilliant, Terri! I'll bite on that one. I've been reading this book for two months now. Perhaps I can finish it in August. The slow pace is simply because the book is on CD and I spend little time in my car. I really like Pat Conroy's writing, with this book being no exception.
What I would do is sort the books by Most Wanted under "Swap", then look from the end of those pages(which hold the least known books). Within two or three pages, you should have found something you'd like to read within the parameters.
teelgee, thanks for the South of Broad suggestion. I'll go for that one since I've wanted to read it.
Not surprisingly, I'm probably already overextended but who needs sleep, anyway?
I'm set for 17 TIOLI books under 11 different challenges.
You guys are amazing at coming up with interesting challenges!!
@ cmt, yes you can. In the toolbar there is the icon with up/down arrows and you can sort by "Total Members" and choose "Up" as the criteria. Then you can look at the right-hand column
I totally forgot about those helpful little arrows, goddesspt2. Thanks for your helpful reminder!
#Message 67: goddesspt2, Thanks for the suggestion. I really want to read the last of the trilogy. Now I have a place to fit it.
Well, Madeline, your National Book Festival Author challenge has me going out on a limb and trying a children's book by an author that I had never read or heard about. I am intrigued by First Light by Rebecca Stead, set in Greenland, and best of all, my library has several copies.
your National Book Festival Author challenge has me going out on a limb
Soooo late to this party. I hung around last night (in the wrong place, duh) and by the time I got on today, there was another challenge very close to the one I was thinking of, so I'll just take advantage of the many great challenges that are up.
I actually have quite a few no "e" books on my shelf: Montana 1948 by Larry Watson, Loving Frank by Nancy Horan, Stalin's Ghost by Martin Cruz Smith, Dirt Music by Tim Winton and Obasan by Joy Kogawa.
I think I'll add the Winton book since I've wanted to read that for a long time.
If you want to be TOP FROG (for at least a short while), leap into the TIOLI meter now (only if you want to) as no one is allowed to complete their first book until August officially begins.
Is less than 10% of the books read for a year a qualification for "seldom visited"? I never read YA books before last year (except for Harry Potter - guess he got me looking in that direction) but I only read 15 out of 162 last year and 7 out of 73 this year. I have a couple others that I've thought about, and would read them if they qualify.
I have added 3 books to the first challenge (already mentioned above), 1 book for challenge 2
Jackdraws - Ken Follett - MikeBriggs
The Man With a Load of Mischief - Martha Grimes - MikeBriggs
Presumed Innocent - Scott Turow - MikeBriggs
I put these to remember that I have the books. I will probably read The Man With a Load of Mischief if I can find my copy.
The Heart of Valor - Tanya Huff- MikeBriggs
An excuse to continue the series.
Storm - Ian Slater - MikeBriggs
I've liked one or so of the 10 or so books I've read by him. I am uncertain where I have the book and am uncertain if I will read.
Without Remorse - Tom Clancy - MikeBriggs
An excuse to read. Not certain how likely I am that I will read it.
Parrot and Olivier in America - Peter Carey - MikeBriggs
(the only one of the bunch that I might, with a low probability of occuring, read)
Valor's Trial - Tanya Huff - MikeBriggs
An excuse to continue the series.
The Cobra - Frederick Forsyth - MikeBriggs
The Unlikely Spy - Daniel Silva - MikeBriggs
I've been looking for a reason to read one of the 3 or 4 books by Silva that I own.
A Good Walk Spoiled: Days and Nights on the PGA Tour - John Feinstein - MikeBriggs
(one of the few I buy)
Challenge #9: historical mystery
I like historical mystery, I'll find something along the way.
Challenge #10: classic
I have a bunch, I'll get around to finding one to read.
Wesley the Owl - Stacey O'Brien - MikeBriggs (biography)
The Road to Andorra - Shirley Deane - MikeBriggs
Will read (one of the few I actually have to buy)
6 Lewin books
Challenge #14: H
do not appear to have anything for this challenge
What do you think?
Vote: Does less than 10% of books read for a year qualify as seldom visited?
Current tally: Yes 18, No 11, Undecided 1
During my lunch break I did a little search in our catalog, looking for lengthy titles satisfying Christina's "no-e" challenge. After finding candidates, I sorted them by title length (based on number of characters in the title).
If anyone wants to win the bonus suggested in #19 for "longest title," this one is very close to a sure bet:
Bioinformatics and computational biology solutions using R and Bioconductor.
I know the LT page says "by Robert Gentleman," but that's not true: Gentleman is the editor, not the author. So it ought to count.
The longest I could find that anyone might actually want to read is:
Bradford's history of Plymouth Plantation / William Bradford
No? This one might be a quick way to the top:
Is it rough? Is it smooth? Is it shiny? / Tana Hoban
Or if more grown-up fiction is your thing you might try:
A tomb for Boris Davidovich / Danilo Kis
Cotton candy on a rainy day / Nikki Giovanni
For what it's worth, I vote that the subtitle doesn't count.
89: Sorry, I'm voting no, not if you normally read across a number of genres. I could read a book in a genre where I'd "only" read 15 other books this year. Stasia could read a book in a genre where she's "only" read 37 books - and actually, I only read 49 books last year, and still wouldn't have considered one where I'd read 4 books "seldom visited".
I think subtitles don't count. Certainly I think ones saying "a novel" (which seem to be a symptom of American publishers underestimating their market, surely they're not needed) don't count.
Alright I've committed to thew following:
The Author Challenge - The Worst Hard Time by Timothy Egan
Weather Term in the Title - Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell
I Would Like to Be....Mrs. Somebody Somebody by Tracy Winn
No Es- Dirt Music by Tim Winton
NF set in Another Country - Burmese Lessons by Karen Connelly
Classic - Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen
Booker nominee - The Long Song by Andrea Levy
Overlooked - After the War by Richard Marius
Ahhhh yes.....over-committed again.
swynn - I got it!
Desperate Engagement: How a Little-Known Civil War Battle Saved Washington, D.C., and Changed American History (90 Characters)
That is a long one -- I should have made it more clear that I was looking for titles satisfying the "no-e" challenge, with an eye toward the "bonus" suggested by wandering_star back in #19. I've edited my previous post to clarify.
#84 Thanks, Citizenjoyce. I read one YA book last year, by Richard Peck. Now I think I'll read another.
I'm committing to these:
National Book Festival: Three Junes and Remaking the World
Weather term: Palace of the Snow Queen
Walk: The Drunkard's Walk
Classic: The Buccaneers
Another country: In Tasmania
I might finish Anna Karenina for the classics challenge as well.
I think it would be awesome if, as a group, we read at least one book from each author at the National Book Festival. (And if I'm not in trial in late September, I might go up to D.C. for the festival!)
OK, I think we are all officially OCD.
It sure looks that way, doesn't it?
I was trying to plan something for each of the 14 categories but I never read sci fi and almost never read "literary fiction" so I'll "just" have something in 12 of the categories. Nothing for Darryl's and nothing for the "other world" challenge.
These statistics are from a self-publishing site, so I don' know how accurate they are. Even if we read only 1 book for the challenge, it seems Lters are doing more than our fair share to lift humanity out of the abyss:
The following statistics about book publishing and reading were found on www.parapub.com, the Web site of self-publishing guru Dan Poynter.
1/3 of high school graduates never read another book for the rest of their lives.
42 percent of college graduates never read another book after college.
80 percent of U.S. families did not buy or read a book last year.
70 percent of U.S. adults have not been in a bookstore in the last five years.
57 percent of new books are not read to completion.
70 percent of books published do not earn back their advance.
70 percent of the books published do not make a profit.
(Source: Jerold Jenkins, www.JenkinsGroupInc.com)
70 percent of the books published do not make a profit
I must be buying the other 30%.
>102 That is the most depressing set of statistics I've ever seen. What in the world do they say about our society??
>98 yeah, I'm a little slow - the pain meds you know. (I won't be able to blame them for everything much longer! )
Wow - I can't believe the August wiki has only been up for one day and has 14 challenges already! (Wandering_Star, I esp. like your "I would like to be ..." challenge. :) Off to comb my shelves ...
Oh - and I forgot how I'd look up titles that have less than 25 copies on LT. Little help?
Damn, too late to post a challenge yet AGAIN. This is getting frustrating...
Was there a limit set? In that case, wouldn't it be more fair to say that there can only be one challenge posted per person per month?
107 Suz, I don't see why you couldn't go ahead and post another challenge.
There are, as of yet, NO LIMITS to the number of challenges to be posted each month. In all fairness, it would be best if each person limited himself to one per month; however I don't want to make a "rule" about that.
I think that, if we ever get to the point that we feel there are too many challenges, we might try some other ideas (e.g. one per person each month, A-K screen names on even months/L-Z screen names on odd months, and so forth). Right now, the field is still open!!
Let me know when all of you are getting too overwhelmed with the number of challenges posted each month.
One thing that I would suggest is that each you refrain from posting a challenge that's previously been done. As there have been so many, and it's often hard to remember them (although they can be looked up on Mike's wiki summary), that also will not become a hard and fast rule.
In addition, if we "tighten up" on our challenges, thereby making it harder to find a book to fit, we may actually need more challenges posted! :O
There is. In the first post.
ETA: See where it says "The August 2010 Wiki and Index of Challenges"? Click on that and the index is at the top of the wiki page. Make sure you have it set as "Contents: show" and not "Contents: hide".
I thought about not posting a second challenge, wasn't sure if that was an OK thing. Maybe we could have an unwritten rule that one person doesn't post more than one challenge until the new wiki has been up a few days? Sorry if I blundered.
No, I really don't want to make rules about that. Sometimes you just might have two great ideas. I don't want to stifle creativity. Just use your judgement. If the list seems too long, jot down your idea and post it the following month. If not, post two.
I'd say to pause at two, at least for a while - to give others a chance to post their own challenge up front.
How about if we say that, once we reach 20 challenges, from that day on, we'll only allow one challenge per person per month?
Vote: Do you agree with this?
Current tally: Yes 24, No 5
#107 - Suzanne - I say go for it and post a challenge. I'm still looking for a challenge that fits some of the books I'd like to read this month.
Suzanne, for your challenge. Is that within the title or within the book?
I'm feeling a bit guilty about posting two challenges but think they're very different - and one was partly an idea I had a few weeks ago when a book didn't fit into a PI challenge.
14 seems a lot but the group has a lot of members, more and more people are joining in, and most/all of the challenges have lots of people signed up.
Suzanne, I'd love to hear your challenge.
Suzanne, I see you've posted yours - I'm guessing it's within the title but can you clarify?
OK, I posted one of the ones I was pondering -- Read a book whose title contains the name of another book, its author, or a character in another book. Jane Austen is particularly fertile ground for this, of course, but I'll be reading The Summer We Read Gatsby by Danielle Ganek. There are some non-fiction options, too, like Voltaire's Coconuts, a story about Anglomania by the wonderful writer Ian Buruma, or if you're into hardcore philosophy, Voltaire's Bastards by John Ralston Saul. In historical fiction, the US edition of a novel is Charlotte and Emily by Jude Morgan. I'll try and come up with some more. Non-fiction counts -- but NOT biography!
I've posted some books already, and will probably be able to add a bunch in the spy category and the non-fiction reads in countries other than my own.
#107 -- hopefully #120 clarifies -- sorry, the phone rang before I could get back to this thread!
hopefully #120 clarifies
It did. I edited your challenge title to make it clear for everyone.
I like your challenge - I can think of several I'd like to read if I can only fit them in.
When you say "not biography" I assume you mean not a bio of the author - Reading Lolita in Tehran is memoir/autobiography but it seems to be in the spirit of the challenge.
>127 I took "not biography" to mean you couldn't count a bio about Shakespeare titled "The Life of Shakespeare" or some such thing.
Teelgee, exactly. Yes, Reading Lolita in Tehran is definitely in the spirit of the challenge -- the author's choice of a familiar title, author or character (Mr Darcy?) to draw the reader into the book. A bio of Charlotte Bronte by Mrs Gaskell wouldn't count, or one of Samuel Pepys by Claire Tomalin, etc.
elkiedee & teelgee - I hope I didn't sound like I was admonishing when I suggested one challenge per person. That was only an idea IF there was a limit on how many challenges there could be in a month. I thought I might have missed something.
There are always some challenges I'm not interested in, or can't find a good book for, so I'm up for more choices! :)
I have a copy of Madame Proust and the Kosher Kitchen which has researching Proust's writings as part of the plot so would fit this challenge I think.
edit: add 'Read A Book whose title contains the name of an author, character, or another book'
#132, I think I'll join you on that one, since Taylor is a former fellow Canadian diplo-brat, is represented by my former agent in Toronto AND published by my publishers! (Her new book is due out this fall.)
Matthew Pearl's books would also fit into my challenge -- The Dante Club, The Poe Shadow or The Last Dickens.
Right now, this is how my challenges are shaping up for August (not that I have finished July's yet!)
An Echo in the Bone
The Swan Thieves
Un Lun Dun
The Children’s Blizzard
Crazy for the Storm
Defining the Wind
Admiral of the Ocean Sea
Among the Righteous
Coming into the Country
Giving Good Weight
The God of Small Things
The Balkan Trilogy
A Rumor of War
Snug Harbor - No Touchstone?
Bastard Out of Carolina
South of Broad
Battle of Wits
Between Silk and Cyanide
The Defence of the Realm
The September Society
Cheerful Weather for the Wedding
The Warlord of the Air
The Day the World Exploded
Homicide in Hardcover
Reading Lolita in Tehran
Lydia Cassatt Reading the Morning Paper
I know things will change throughout the month, but this is my starting point.
Madeline, I voted no, but does the publisher call it a classic? I think that fits the category if the publisher calls it one or is part of a group of pub-acknowledged classics e.g. Virago Modern Classics.
>>138 - One of the Amazon covers on the Joys of Yiddish LT detail page says right on it "The Bestselling Classic"
Do you think Rebecca is a classic? I'd say so, but I just want to check.
The Joys of Yiddish doesn't quite fit as I'd envisaged it.
Rebecca probably fits into most people's definitions of a classic in any case. My challenge is to read in publisher's "Classics" series and I have the Virago Modern Classics edition which would certainly fit in with this, but I think that different editions of books published as eg VMC or Penguin Classics/Penguin Modern Classics should count, in fairness.
I'm glad you've put down Reading Lolita in Tehran, Stasia, and of Chatterbox's challenge, as it's one of those books I bought years ago and I really want to read it and I need some help picking that book out of all those in books and boxes and piles around the house. And I know where it is, and it's one of those privileged books which has shelf space, always helpful.
#142: Someone else added Reading Lolita in Tehran and since I have been meaning to re-read it, I decided this was a good time :)
I know exactly what you mean about being able to locate your books, Luci. There are at least 4 on my Auguts list that I have to locate yet!
I can't believe how many posts there are on this thread already!
I'm going to try and be careful about overcommitting myself this month because I felt there were lots of books I ended up removing from the wiki last month but so far I have added:
Challenge #2: Other World: Read a book set in another world
Consider Phlebas by Iain M. Banks
Un Lun Dun by China Miéville
Challenge #6: Read a book without the letter "e" in the title or author
Dissolution by C. J. Sansom
Heavens, this is a fantastically speedy group! Lots of creative energy roaring around here!
I added Diary of a Left Handed Bird Watcher to Mike's challenge of less than 25 copies on LT.
About those TIOLI points:
We're off to a fabulous start, amassing a total of 55 TIOLI points as we begin our August reads. I'm taking a moment to remind you that the TIOLI points for shared reads exist for a reason. The idea is so that we could talk to each other about books that we're reading together within a narrow time frame. I offer several ideas here:
1. Talk up those shared reads if they're good. Use this thread for that. Convince others to read that same book. More readers of the same book gather even more TIOLI points. It's more fun to read and discuss the same book if it's still fresh in the minds of other challengers.
2. If several (perhaps five or more?) of you have chosen to read one particular book at the same time, consider doing a group read. Anyone can jump in to start this. This does not have to be a big, formal affair. You can make it as brief or as detailed as you'd like. What you would have to do, though, is to start an individual thread for this and invite other challengers to join in. Should you do this, please mark SPOILERS carefully.
3. For shared books, please visit each other's threads to comment on those books. In this way, you will get more back-and-forth conversation about a book you're reading concurrently with another challenger, plus you'd have the chance to get to know more 75-ers better through such conversations. (Readers can and do social network!).
>141: I absolutely think Rebecca is a classic! Regardless of publisher.
I agree with you about The Joys of Yiddish* not being a "Classic". It's always referred to as a classic, but I don't think that the reference is in a literary sense. I suppose it's more of a reference to the uniqueness and the enduring quality of that book.
*I'm reading it anyway! :)
So far, I'm thinking-
Rebecca by Daphne Du Maurier and The Three Musketeers by Alexandre Dumas for the Classics challenge.
The Swan Thieves by Elizabeth Kostova for the 2010 Book Festival challenge.
Something by Mercedes Lackey for the Another World challenge, as her books are set in 'Valdemar.' Possibly some Discworld stuff as well.
The Mozart Conspiracy by Scott Mariani, for the Lack of E challenge.
How I Live Now by Meg Rosoff for the Letter 'H' challenge.
Reading Lolita in Tehran by Azar Nafisi for the Author/Character in the Title challenge.
I'm sure there will be more, but that will do for now :)
So far, I've added two books to the August TIOLI challenge:
Death Comes for the Archbishop by Willa Catha to the Classics challenge (which I am also reading for a RL book club in August) and
Memory Wall: Stories by Anthony Doerr for the Overlooked Books challenge. Right now it's only in 13 LT libraries but I assume that will change after the great review it got in this Sunday's NYT. (If I remember what I read up-thread correctly, as long as it has less than 25 owners when you add it to the wiki, it qualifies.)
Having just finished The Thirteenth Tale for July's TIOLI challenge, I would love to re-read Jane Eyre for the Classics challenge and The Eyre Affair by Jasper Fforde for the Author, Book, Character in a Title challenge but I have so much in August's queue. So, I'll keep them on the TIOLI backburner pile.
>154 I know what you mean about having so much in the queue! I also have been meaning to read Reading Lolita in Tehran for challenge #15 and Rebecca for the classics challenge, but I think I may need to hold off on signing myself up for too many things.
Although...The Eyre Affair is fantastic (and the sequels even better) and it's a pretty quick read, so hopefully you'll be able to get to it too.
Bit slow off the mark (my defense being I only joined in with you lot in July), but I hadn't realised you could pick more than one book for each category - ooooh, this could be fatal!
...quick question though, can I include books I'm half way through already (still not finished The Aeneid, which could fit into one of two categories), or does it only count if I start the book in August?
It's 8:30am August 1st in NZ I'm starting my first challenge:
Challenge #11: Read A Book in a Genre Seldom Visited (FYI: Note the genre.) - started by Citizenjoyce
The Good Man Jesus and the Scoundrel Christ - Philip Pullman - kiwiflowa - (religious fiction) I think it will be a quick read if anyone cares to join me!
Shoot, kiwiflowa, I do want to join you and have put the book on hold at the library, but when will I find time?
I also noted, wisechild, that The Eyre Affair is the first in the Thursday Next series, so I had to download that too, because I do love Jasper Fforde. Need to get the time machine working.
#137 And I thought I had a lot of books planned, Stasia. You keep this up and you'll be top dog again for August. Or top frog or whatever it is. Glad to see you're also reading The September Society by Charles Finch as I am most eager to get to that one.
Question as to the classics challenge: Does it count if I read the same book by a different publisher? I think it should. Suppose I read Death Comes for the Archbishop but it's a Signet Classic and someone else is reading a Penguin Classic edition of that same book--does that count then?
>157: It's when you finish the book that counts. At least I hope it is, b/c I've been doing a group read of Anna Karenina since February and I'm hoping to finish it up this month for the classics challenge.
I'm also reading Three Junes for the Nat'l Book Fest author challenge.
I'm hoping to do more, but last month I deleted more books from the wiki than I finished, so I'm starting slowly.
#160: I think that should count. My copy of The Buccaneers is a regular Penguin but someone else's is in a classics series. We're still reading the same book :)
!61, I wish I could do that slower approach. I'm more of the "kid in the candy store." I tend to note every book I might possibly get to, in the wiki.
#162 Thanks. I think it should count, too. It is the same book, even if published by a different publisher.
can I include books I'm half way through already (still not finished The Aeneid, which could fit into one of two categories),
The answer is yes. Madhatter22 is correct. The TIOLI challenge is completed in the month you actually finish reading the book.
I've been reading one book (South of Broad) now for three months. I hope to finish it this month for the "Without an e" challenge. :/
Does it count if I read the same book by a different publisher?
Carlym is correct. It does count because the book is the same. The publisher is only noted as additional interesting information. In addition, that information may help others find the same book.
#166 Thanks for the "straight from the top" answer. Now I just need to decide which classic book. The one I want to read, for my 1010 challenge, is Bleak House but I don't think I'll get through it and all the others in a single month.
So far I've just plugged it books that I already have in my queue (ie., are checked out from the library or currently reading), so this will no means be the final list:
The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins - 2010 Nat'l Book Festival Author
Tongues of Serpents by Naomi Novik - Other Words
Northanger Abbey by Jane Austen - Classics
Haroun and the Sea of Stories by Salman Rushdie - "H" title
Others to be determined, and there's quite a few books on my TBR list that could fit into various challenges. I'm going to have fun picking out books this month!
Oh how I wish I were at home. Can't choose books! Can't see my bookshelves. Can't believe how many posts are here and it's still July...
80 percent of U.S. families did not buy or read a book last year.
Call me wildly optimistic, but I just cannot believe that.
I only just joined this challenge late last month, So I don't yet know how I'm going to tackle it. I think I will put up books as I start reading them. I'm not a particularly fast reader, so I think it would be a little bit optimistic of me to add heaps of books that I want to read, as it probably won't happen.
The first book I am going to read is Snuff by Chuck Palahniuk for the no "e" challenge. I've only just started it, but I can tell you, it is definitely not a book for the faint-hearted!
I'm going to try for these first:
Jacob Have I Loved by Katherine Paterson - (National Book Festival Author)
Just Ella by Margaret Peterson Haddix - (National Book Festival Author)
Cold As Ice by Anne Stuart - (I Spy)
Love Walked In by Marisa de los Santos - (Walk in title)
A Coventry Wedding by Becky Cochrane - (Under 25)
And would like to get to these, if possible:
Unpredictable by Eileen Cook - (I Would Like to be... challenge)
Out Of This World by Jill Shalvis - (No 'e' in it)
Emma by Jane Austen - (Read a Classic)
A TV Guide to Life by Jeff Alexander - (Under 25)
All are from my unread shelves except Jacob Have I Loved which is a favorite I haven't read in years.
So far I have signed up:
The Good Man Jesus and the Scoundrel Christ by Philip Pullman (new genre to me)
Three Junes by Julia Glass (National Book Festival Author)
Moo by Jane Smiley (National Book Festival Author)
Bastard Out of Carolina by Dorothy Allison (No 'e' in it)
A Walk in the Woods by Bill Bryson (Walk in title)
The Buccaneers by Edith Wharton (Read a Classic)
There are so many more books to read (of course) but I don't want to over-commit)
One of the books I want to read this month, The Ogre Downstairs, only fits the I would like to be challenge but the sentence doesn't reflect that well on me!
avatiakh, Ahhh your Id is rising to the surface, you need to balance it with something nice and controlled, like a non fiction book set in another country. Jared Diamond would tamp it right down.
#174: Personally, I would like to be more than one me, so The Girls works for me, Joyce.
How are you liking The Girls Joyce? I think you started it earlier, yes?
teelgee, I started it then had to put it aside to finish The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter because I just couldn't combine the two. Tomorrow, after I recover from the blow of melancholy caused by Carson McCullers, I'll dive into The Girls in earnest.
(Why has Touchstone decided it doesn't like this book?)
Joyce, do you click on Others at the bottom of the touchstone? It gives you other choices. Yah, T/S are finicky - they will often pick a book that has a completely different title, just one of the words that you type. Wacky.
"Others" decided not to work on this book. It was the 3rd or so time I posted it in different areas. It worked at first, then gave up. Must be resting for a while.
I'll try again The Girls, nope, still resting.
Good things about the TIOLI challenge:
- it's a lot of fun
- it really helps me get through my TBRs... all the books I have read for TIOLI since it started have been ones I already owned, and it's so much fun trawling my shelves to see what fits!
Bad things about the TIOLI challenge:
- a friend lent me The Alexandria Quartet a couple of months back and I HAVE to read it before he comes to visit in September. But where am I going to find time with all these tempting challenges? (I know I could fit it in as a challenge, perhaps the 'classic'... but then I'd have to leave so many others out!)
Anyone else here a book juggler? By that I mean trying to read too many books at once. Now I find myself reading four - at more or less the same time: a library CD (before it is due back), a nonfiction book I found interesting and couldn't resist starting (which sadly does not fit any TIOLI challenge), my Early Reviewer (less interesting)...and, oh yeah, a book for the TIOLI challenge. I *couldn't* leave that last one out. :)
I used to juggle books, 3 or 4 at a time. Now I never do. I think my experience changed when I was reading War and Peace a couple of years ago and reading other things at the same time. I felt like it drastically diminished my experience of W&P, so reading more than one at a time doesn't feel good anymore. Occasionally I'll dip into a nonfiction while reading a fiction but very rarely.
Yeah, I'm usually juggling about three or four active reads, and about eight or ten that I am dipping into or meaning to get back to. Plus textbooks.
>189 Part of it also probably has to do with my nearly 60 year old brain, I just can't juggle like I used to!
I have to juggle easy reads with more difficult ones, or I'd never get anything read. Right now, every time I read 200 pages of Anna Karenina, I get to read something else for a couple days. Not that I'm not loving Anna Karenina, but it's long and not exactly action packed.
I don't ever book juggle, never ever ever. It doesn't matter how dry or long-winded it is, I can still not read anything else until I'm done with that one.
I'm removing a book from the Wiki already, that must be a new record. I started How I Live Now for the Letter H challenge and got as far as page 10 before wanting to burn it.
Good start to the August TIOLI or what? :)
#175 Given that I used The Ogre Downstairs to describe myself in that book quiz the other day, I don't think I could possibly comment!
#187 Very definitely a book juggler! I very rarely read fewer than two at once, usually more (only two will be if one of them is a tome that requires more concentration) - you have to have choices appropriate for your frame of mind :o)
My current line up for August:
1) US National Book Festival:
Jacob Have I Loved - Katherine Paterson
If I can get hold of a copy, I should also like to add The Dot and the Line - Norton Juster, but my library doesn't have it. Failing that, I may well have to re-read The Phantom Tollbooth again, but I'd rather only include books I haven't read before.
5) Man Booker Prize Longlist:
The Thousand Autumns of Jacob de Zoet - David Mitchell
C - Tom McCarthy
We Have Always Lived in the Castle - Shirley Jackson (Penguin Modern Classic)
Probably also Mansfield Park - Jane Austen, because I've been meaning to reread it anyway.
11) Book in a genre seldom visited:
The Aeneid - Virgil (poetry)
Almost certainly, I will add something in categories 2) A book set in another world; 4) Dream read and 6) A book missing the letter "e", but I have to have a think first!
I am always reading two or three books at the same time, usually one nonfiction, one fiction, and one young adult or children's.
Here is my list for August challenges. 12 books, but 3 are children's books, one is young adult, and one was half-finished before we even started.
1. National Book Festival - First Light by Rebecca Stead and Found by Margaret Peterson Haddix
2. Another World - The Celestial Globe by Marie Rutkoski (Book 2 of the Kronos Chronicles)
3. Weather Term - The Dark Wind by Tony Hillerman and Thunderhead by Douglas Preston
4. The Dream Read - Elsewhere by Gabrielle Zevin
6. Without an "e" - Out by Natsuo Kirino and Tallgrass by Sandra Dallas
7. I Spy with My Little Eye - The Kill Artist by Daniel Silva
8 "Walk" in the Title - The Cloister Walk by Kathleen Norris
9. Historical Mystery - Her Royal Spyness by Rhys Bowen
10. Overlooked - The Cat, the Professor, and the Poison by Leann Sweeney
11. Begins with "H" - Haunted Ground by Erin Hart
I am now Top Frog (for all of two minutes, I'm sure); I rarely get TIOLI points, so I'm enjoying my moment in the sun.
I read Mosaics in a Weekend by Martin Cheek for Challenge #13; Overlooked. There are currently 14 members with it listed.
Oh, well, it lasted over an hour. There goes my lily pad! SPLASH!!
I generally don't book juggle (bouggle?), but I do sometimes take a different book out with me, to read while I'm waiting for swimming classes etc. to finish. The other one stays snug on my bedside table. Speaking of which ...
I do book juggle. I have reduced the # I have going at any one time in the past few months. I'll have a nonfiction or something I want to take notes on going, plus something I can read "on the run" and just enjoy the plot.
I finished The Man With a Load of Mischief by Martha Grimes for the National Book Festival author challenge. I think I'll move on to challenge 2 next. But I will eventually have to break the cycle because The Grapes of Wrath is due for a book club mid-month and I know I can't get 8 other books read quite that fast. (Especially since I haven't even been able to find a book on my shelves without an 'e' in the title or author.)
madeline, I can't believe that on the 1st of August we need a new thread but this is loading slowly.
I finished Snuff by Chuck Palahniuk yesterday for the no "e" challenge. It was an easy read, but definitely a little bit strange...
Next up for me is Her Fearful Symmetry by Audrey Niffenegger for the books starting with the letter "h" challenge. I must say I'm quite excited. I've wanted to read this one for a while, and only just bought it on the weekend. I was thrilled when I found a challenge that it would fit in with.
Ah, but not here in Australia! It's 8:00am Monday 2nd August here, meaning that yesterday, to me, was officially August! Gotta love those time zones...
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