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39. Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon - finished 8/28/08
Um, I don't really know what to say. This is the second Pynchon book I've read, and I didn't really know what to think after the first one ...
... Garcia Marquez.
If I could get two, the second book would be Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco.
My third one woule be Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon
There is enough going on in these three books to re-read them many more times. I'm about halfway through Gravity's Rainbow and The Unabridged Edgar Allen Poe. I also am working on The Fire by Katherine Neville, which is an Early Reviewer book. I'm about 40% of the way through The Unabridged Edgar Allen Poe and about one-third of the way through Gravity's Rainbow, both of which I'm taking my time on. I'm varying it up with Desolation Angels and Weird Tales: The 21st Century. I'm almost surprised Gravity's Rainbow hasn't come up. Nothing against it, but I'm feeling a bit lost in it and am definitely leaning in the direction of benign neglect. Maybe once I finish the other books that I'm reading, I'll find it a bit easier to concentrate on GR. @ 4 - I didn't start it for a long time because it'd been dubbed the Gravity's Rainbow of science fiction, but once I started it Dhalgren was way more straightforward than I expected.
I do think it completely fell apart in the last 200 pages. That being said, I loved all of the great social ... ... life *first* might help me with the master himself.
As for me, I'm just thankful that I've already read Clarissa and Gravity's Rainbow before I discovered the 1001 list... both were required reading for the English Hons course I took at uni - both would be incredibly hard work for me ... ... do exclusively collections (works from single author) or anthologies.
As far as getting through the challenge goes, both Gravity's Rainbow and The Unabridged Edgar Allen Poe are really killing me. Talk about massive. ... some people, homophobes are immoral. For some, homosexuals are. Being homophobic may be idiotic, but is it "immoral"?
Gravity's Rainbow includes scenes of coprophagia. Do I think it needs a big sticker on the cover warning of this? No. And while repugnant, is that activity "immoral" ... Well, if you haven't read Gravity's Rainbow, it might be a trifecta for you (historical, modern lit fiction, and classic).
Although it *only* runs to 600-odd (and I do mean "odd") pages, John Cowper Powy's Wolf Solent might fit the bill if you're looking for something a little off the ... #65 - Makifat,
The question is, how put out would you be if Oprah featured Gravity's Rainbow as a book club selection? 63
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I read Gravity's Rainbow at a Monster Truck Show. Where does that put me? ... Cannibal Eliot and the Lost Histories of San Francisco in the next couple of days. Then I'm going to start Ring and Gravity's Rainbow (or maybe Making Globalization Work). ... Jacobs. There is no reason in the world this book needs read straight through. Unless, that's what one desires to do.
Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon. I'm sure this book loses a lot of readers trying to gulp it down in one go. I read a few or even one segment at a time and savor ... ... Insurgent Art by Lawrence Ferlinghetti and I'm reading Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov right now. I plan to pop open Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon next as well as another collection of poetry, but I haven't decided. ... reward for that it a night of insomnia. Bed is only good for two things, and reading isn't one of them.
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I read Gravity's Rainbow almost entirely on the D.C. metro. I have two copies of that book now, because the edition I read first has such memories that I can't bear to part with ... ... too much like Lord of The Flies and it took 400 pgs to build up to a unsatisfying 3 page climax.
Still reading Gravity's Rainbow, its taking longer becasue I take a break every now and then to read somthing else. Thats not to say Im bored by it, actually it is now one of my favorite ... ... It definitely takes some work - both with the length and language. I wouldn't say it's as difficult to follow as say, Gravity's Rainbow or some of the later Henry James, but he does tend to have multiple clauses and some of the longest sentences around. Also, you can't just read for plot, ... about half way through Gravity's Rainbow.
had to take a break, so im reading The Beach by Alex Garland now, so far its been difficult to put down ... to what I had started.
I am currently reading Dune Messiah by Frank Herbert
I am also doing a long revisit to Gravity's Rainbow along with an annotated guide; hence my thread on "a-and" which was finally explained to me as someone going, "Aaaand..."
Still going along with Gravity's Rainbow. its really stunning, but i may have to put it down for a while again. may take a break and read somthing like H.P. Lovecraft or somthing ... fan, I have great admiration for you for just trying that one - it's supposed to be a post-modernist masterpiece that makes Gravity's Rainbow look like child's play. Still, I know few who have made it through...
... to Birdsong... other than that, I'm just butting in for no good reason, since I've only read the first few dozen pages of Gravity's Rainbow... I read that one. Anyone for Gravity's Rainbow? still working on Gravity's Rainbow, its taken quite a lot of putting it down and picking it up again, but now im fully sucked into it all. I spend most of my time in class thinking about Imipolex G instead of taking notes. i read the J.G. Ballard novel Running Wild real fast (only 104 pgs) and now im starting the second part of Gravity's Rainbow. when i have to take a break from GR i may read gibson's Spook Country Currently up to my neck in Gravity's Rainbow, now that i finished part-1 "Beyond the Zero" I have to take a short brake with Running Wild by J.G. Ballard . Not so traditional is Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon. It's long. The drawback will be reading it without an encyclopedia at hand to look up people and events to see if they're real or if they spring out of Pynchon's weird fertile imagination. Well, actually, the real events are often the ... I also love Swanwick's Gravity's Rainbow, as opposed to the Gravity's Rainbow written by Pynchon. 94 - I *loved* War and Peace, myself.
What I've seen to be the problem with things like War and Peace, Gravity's Rainbow, Ulysses, etc. is that many of these books have professors and other 'ivory tower academics' (or the literature world) lavishing heaps and heaps of praise upon them. T ... ... an engrossing story. He then said with much surprise "oh really? can I borrow it when you're done?"
Never heard of Gravity's Rainbow but it sounds intersting. ... speech :P.
In my humble opinion, War and Peace is no where near as challenging to read as something like Ulysses or Gravity's Rainbow, where almost every other sentence contains some reference to an obscure piece of historical/political thought or fact.
PS - I am only a few hundred ... currently up to my neck in Gravity's Rainbow, wacky, brilliant, disturbing, complex, hilarious, dull, genius, challenging. its a book that you can exaust a thesarus trying to describe Gravity's Rainbow by Pynchon, already kind of a difficult book.
I think although that Pynchon is an intriguing writer, and it is a thoughouly diffrent read. ... the Jim thopson novel I was lucky to find. Im also reading alot from William Gibson's Burning chrome.
After Thompson Gravity's Rainbow Will be the next book I tackle. ... considering the time I spend reading.
Books for January, in no particular order:
The Corrections by Jonathan Franzen
Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon
Of Love and Other Demons by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
How to DJ Right by Frank Broughton
Geek Love by Katherine Dunn
How To Win F ... Several months ago, I picked up Gravity's Rainbow in this edition and had taken it to the checkout before I noticed that the pages had been poorly bound (or possibly irregularly trimmed, but I can't see how that would happen) to give a horrible 'stepped' effect along the page edge when looking at ... ... (the hard list)
The Whole Woman
Faust
Postwar: A History of Europe Since 1945
The War of the End of the World
Gravity's Rainbow
The Rise of the Network Society: The Information Age: Economy, Society and Culture Vol 1
La succession difficile
The Chronicles of Corum: "The Bull ... I have now lost gravity's rainbow by Thomas Pynchon and everything by John D.MacDonald.
Sorting by dates is a good idea but is a fix for undated items. Why does the search change to gravity/'s rainbow? "A screaming comes across the sky..." - Gravity's Rainbow.
On the other hand,
"A wide plain, where the broadening Floss hurries on between its green banks to the sea, and the loving tide, rushing to meet it, checks its passage with an impetuous embrace. On this mighty tide the black ships -l ... III Long Books
1 The Alienist
2 Gravity's Rainbow
3 Baudolino
4 Perdido Street Station
5 Los Detectives Salvajes
6 Cien años de soledad (A Hundred Years of Solitude)
7 Moby Dick
8 House of Leav ... ... ns
Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy
Les Miserables by Victor Hugo
Imajica by Clive Barker
Underworld by Don DeLillo
Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon
The Talisman by Stephen King and Peter Straub
The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova
Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Th ... V was great, but I had a hard time getting into Gravity's Rainbow. Perhaps I should try again! ... interesting ideas, but Hesse simply can't write. (perhaps it's the translation....)
I would definitely go for the Pynchon. Gravity's Rainbow is a very difficult book, but pays back in spades the effort put into it. There's not much plot per se, but rather a series of linked vignettes. It's an ... Just started Gravitys Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon. I'm about 30 pages in, and finding it a little bit less fun than The Crying of Lot 49, which I really liked, but I'll keep pushing through. ... the list that you feel I should absolutely read.
Ada or Ardor Vladimir Nabokov
Underworld Don DeLillo
Gravity's Rainbow or V Thomas Pynchon
The Glass Bead Game Hermann Hesse
Infinite Jest David Foster Wallace
... read in '06 when it came out, but kept pushing it back. Excellent novel; deserves the praise it's since gotten. (9/10)
Gravity's Rainbow -- Idea of reading this beast scared me, so I just kept putting it off and off. Read and enjoyed V., The Crying of Lot 49, as well as Vineland last ... ... reality and readily accepted by the reader.
Good examples of slipstream I have read (and been fascinated with) are Gravity's Rainbow, Dhalgren, and Hawksmoor.
And yes, I have noticed that slipstream lists often include works I wouldn't apply the label to; seeming to encompass the ... ... how to cast a spell.
Ok. So is fiction that writing which deals with truth but lacks a regular metric? Well, a lot of Gravity's Rainbow, if you chop up the paragraphs, is pretty strict iambic pentameter. You find the pentameter line as a transition in Carson McCullers. So prose fiction too ... ... author was trying to say enjoyable?
I'll have to admit that I'm in agreement on some level, personally. Something like Gravity's Rainbow, where the annotations fill a second book that's equal in length to the referred text starts to seem like a bit too much work for me after a while. Then ... ... me the longest.
I have had major enthusiasms for Lord of the Rings, James Joyce's Ulysses, Thomas Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow.
Frank Herbert's Whipping Star and Dosadi Experiment (more so than Dune).
Actually, some philosophers have been more "watershed": Alfred ... ellevee, every time I think of V, all I can think of is that rhinoplasty. Yuck! Good book, tho.
Have you read Gravity's Rainbow? I'm very fond of V and Gravity's Rainbow and Lot 49 and even Vineland, but Mason and Dixon just didn't do it for me. *shrugs*
That said, I reckon you shouldn't really force yourself to read anything that you're not enjoying or at least appreciating, unless you're young and self-medicate ... ... I'm all for broadening one's base of associations as much as possible, though I do get wary when I read something such as Gravity's Rainbow where the Gravity's Rainbow Companion is as long as the book. ... with 'what is reality' or 'who am i' appeals to post-modernists, especially followers of the European philosophers.
Gravity's Rainbow is a (probably) great novel but it's not an easy read, it's wilfully obscure at times and could be used as an example of why the literary novel fails it's ... ... said his best work is in the genre. That he has written SF whether he intended to or not. The SFWA must have considered Gravity's Rainbow SF when it gained a nomination for a Nebula.
I think part of the problem with this discussion is that you see best as some kind of objective measure ... Slowly, slowly in the wind, by Patricia Highsmith
Gravity's Rainbow, by Thomas Pynchon
Heavy Weather, by P.G. Wodehouse
Ashes and Snow, by Gregory Colbert
Capturing Sunlight, by Annie Morse
and just so we know what's coming:
Weatherman, by Harold Jacobs White-Jacket (Herman Melville)
Redburn (Melville again)
The Bluest Eye (Toni Morrison)
Gravity's Rainbow (Thomas Pynchon; does that count?)
The Yellow Wallpaper (Charlotte Perkins Gilman)
Gene Wolfe's On Blue's Waters and In Green's Jungles
John Myers Myers's Silverlock
Thomas Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow
Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars, Blue Mars and Green Mars ... store).
I was intrigued by Pynchon when I read The Crying of Lot 49 in high school 30 years ago, and I had tried Gravity's Rainbow as well back then, but never made it through. I can't write a better review than all the "professional" reviews I've read, but I agree with all of them ... ... ranked relatively low compared with his other books...the only one i haven't yet read is V....definitely not as good as Gravity's Rainbow or Mason and Dixon, but that's not saying much...not a very in-depth "review" here...but anyway... Well, it took me almost six months, but I finished reading Gravity's Rainbow yesterday.
It took so long, not because of any struggling with the reading, but, rather, relishing it all during the very short reading windows that seem to be rarer and rarer these days.
My favorite ... ... both time and reality are suspect, and the object of the journey is never clear. The book reminds me of both Ulysses and Gravity’s Rainbow, in that it’s a multi-layered, myth-like tale. The difference, for me, is that the characters here are human and compelling, very well drawn, and ... I completed V. after one false start and loved it. Absolutely worth it. Gravity's Rainbow on the other hand... I'm still working on that one, though I blame this more on being too busy with other stuff to properly focus on it. Numerous false starts here, but I have to agree with juv3nal on the ... The Crying of Lot 49 is completely painless and worth it.
On the other hand, I've started Gravity's Rainbow about 6 times now, getting a little further each time. That I keep trying speaks in its favor. I think.
1. Hopscotch by Julio Cortazar
2. The Society of the Spectacle by Guy Debord
3. Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon
4. The Making of the Middle Ages by R. W. Southern
5. Madness and Civilization by Michel Foucault ... it's extremely challenging reading in a language you don't master perfectly. Eg. my English exceeds its limits in reading Gravity's Rainbow.
I like a lot such books that one can easily be read through a chosen category, like Umberto Eco's The Name of the Rose as a semiotic study, an ... ... tough novels, though Pynchon's previous two novels weren't very satisfying. His new one is excellent, and nearly as good as Gravity's Rainbow. His best work makes me feel smart just for "getting" the references.
As for Magical Realism, I don't know that I understand the term completely, but I ... ... To Kill a Mockingbird Harper Lee
81. The Golden Notebook Doris Lessing
82. Ship of Fools Katherine Anne Porter
83. Gravity's Rainbow Thomas Pynchon
84. The Jewel in the Crown Paul Scott
85. Cotter's England or Dark Places of the Heart Christina Stead
86. Rabbit, Run John Updik ... ... Martin F. Krafft
Crying is my first Pynchon. I'm astonished it's such a 'slender volume'. I remember seeing Gravity's Rainbow on store shelves, shortly after it was published. It's massive enough to have a gravitational field of its own, an atmosphere, and a small satellite cloud ... ... Martin F. Krafft
Crying is my first Pynchon. I'm astonished it's such a 'slender volume'. I remember seeing Gravity's Rainbow on store shelves, shortly after it was published. It's massive enough to have a gravitational field of its own, an atmosphere, and a small satellite cloud ... ... Processen
6. Marguerite Duras - Älskaren
7. August Strindberg - Röda rummet
8. Thomas Pynchon - Gravitationens regnbåge
9. Charles Baudelaire - Det ondas blommor (Ondskans blommor : Les fleurs du mal)
10. Harry Martinson - Aniara
11. Göran Tuns ... ... and those are mostly favorites, so I can pull new ideas from your list. I loved V by Pynchon, but could not get through Gravity's Rainbow. Haven't tried it in many years, so perhaps I will make another effort.
Are these all books you have read, or simply ones you consider worthy?
... them from the 1001 Books You Must Read Before You Die list, I am varying longer and shorter works.
I hope to read:
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon
Guns, Germs, and Steel - Jared Diamond
The Historian - Elizabeth Kostova
Middlesex - Jeffrey Eugenides
One Hund ... ... he's writing just for the sake of writing (and damn, he's good), I've got to say it's a magnificent book. I remember how Gravity's Rainbow made me feel very smart. This new one does the same thing, and made me remember that feeling.
Edited to fix touchstone, by dropping "The" At the top of my TBR pile is gravity's rainbow, by thomas pynchon. I want to have read it because I want to be able to have intellegent conversations about it with my friends (and on LT, of course), and because it is seen as an important work...blah, blah, blah. However, it just seems ... ... Are they better or worse? For example,
The Alteration - Kingsley Amis
The Handmaid's Tale - Margaret Atwood
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon
The Plot Against America - Philip Roth I've tried to read War & Peace twice. I enjoyed what I read, but could not finish.
I've also attempted Gravity's Rainbow twice, to no avail. Again, I've enjoyed what I've read, but it is so much work reading Pynchon that I inevitably stop, my brain fried.
I absolutely hated what I read ... ...
Quicksilver by Neal Stephenson
Wanda Hickey's Night of Golden Memories (and Other Disasters) by Jean Shepherd
The Rainbow by D.H. Lawrence ... endured if not other books were tempting me.
Other books I have given up on are Wizard's First Rule, The Arcanum and Gravity's Rainbow. The last one I plan to pick up again when the time feels right: it was simply too heavy when I attempted it. Still working on Gravity's Rainbow (for the umpteenth time) and my copy of ATD is sitting there as a carrot to inducing me finish GR rather than just relishing its delicious words and images.
Have to admit, though, that I have taken a slight breather before going Into the Zone to ... Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon
American Gods by Neil Gaiman
The Idiot by Dostoyevski (yeah, I know that's not really a big one, but I'm guessing it'll be a big sort of read).
And I'm determined to finish The American Boy by Andrew Taylor (the touchstone doesn't ... The Diamond Age by Neal Stephenson
Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace
The Tin Drum by Guenter Grass
Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon
A Scanner Darkly by Phillip K. Dick
... J. G. Ballard is very "Burroughs-esque"...all of Thomas Pynchon's books are very reminiscent of Burroughs as well (Gravity's Rainbow being his best...) Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson. I'm enjoying the sheer geekiness of it all. It reminds me of Gravity's Rainbow, but not as magical, or obsessive, or cinematic or crazy.
I'm a knitter, so I'm also listening to Talk Talk on my iPod. I love T.C. Boyle, I read everything he writes. Thi ... ... springs forcibly to mind. I didn't 'dialogue' with him, I shouted, blew raspberries and crossed out entire sections of The Rainbow in pencil with margin notes such as 'NO!' and 'WRONG!'. His 'ideas' about women's sexuality disgusted me. Seminars on the novel were heated affairs - mostly my ... Gravity's Rainbow was shortlisted for the Nebula but I wouldn't list it as SF. It has SF (and fantasy) elements but they are not the main thrust of the novel. I think the difference between postmodern novels and genre novels is the importance of the initial conceit to the material. For example, ... The Artist of the Missing by Paul Lafarge
Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon
... Hmmmm.
First Term at Malory Towers - Mere Christianity.
White Boots - Siddhartha
Ballet Shoes - Gravity's Rainbow
Treasure Island - Agile Web Development with Rails
Alice in Wonderland - Systematic Theology (actually, that list is FULL of theology and ... ... the Day arrived by post the other day.
The dilemma is, however, that I am only a quarter through my rereading of Gravity's Rainbow.
The temptation to read just, oh, say a page or two of the new book is very great, but, hell!, I am really enjoying GR right now.
So I wonder ... ... ... here (and why you wrote them (if you can remember)).
Here's one, just randomly selected, from page 105 of my own copy of Gravity's Rainbow (though it DOES seem fairly timely these days):
"Don't forget the real business of the War is buying and selling. The murdering and the violence are ... ... page, it makes me look forward to the 1084 others. I am, after all, a fan...
(Best first pages, according to me:
1. Gravity's Rainbow
2. Mason & Dixon
3. The Crying of Lot 49 ) On the other hand, in Gravity's Rainbow, Pynchon has whole chapters in this light; one of my personal favorites is Slothrup having to endure the pre-war stash of British Candy Novelties from the mother of one of his many, um, shall we say "female acquantances?" Among the many other examples of P ... I find that extract rather disappointing -- I think the Pynchon of Gravity's Rainbow would have used the osteopathy-duel-idea for a sentence or two, not an entire page or two. My expectations for the upcoming novel are still high, though. ... still doesn't work, either, drat!) while on Monhegan Island, Maine in October, and then, most recently, went right into Gravity's Rainbow (for my nth reading ... it gets more and more incredible as I get older and older) and hope to finish it before my copy of "Against the Day" gets here.
... ... ... hopefully with my much dog-eared, heavily underlined, and fully mariginally (ah, another paradox?) notated copy of Gravity's Rainbow (what I meant was that the margins of my copy are inundated with my own sophomoric observations).
Then (hopefully) I might be done with Rainbow (one of ... ... up some other titles--Jonathan Strange has about the same Harry Potter as Anna Karenina and Moby-Dick, but higher than Gravity's Rainbow and Tom Jones. And nowhere near as high as Pride and Prejudice, The Scarlet Letter, and Animal Farm. I'm definitely seeing a pattern but right ... ... Norman Mailer and Empire of the Sun by J. G. Ballard.
An (very) offbeat novel set during the end of the war is Gravity's Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon. ... Road, and the action of the novel was just outside my window . . . There's a lot of Wartime London in Pynchon's Gravity's Rainbow and of course 80's London in The Line of Beauty
I almost forgot, Diary of a Nobody, the funniest introduction to Victorian London middle-class mores ... "desert island" reads. Be sure to read it at least once in your lifetime."
By the way, my favorite Pynchon novel is Gravity's Rainbow with V. behind by just a nose. I'm rereading V. right now, though, so maybe the race isn't yet over.
So I suggest you don't give up yet, but if you ... I think Gravity's Rainbow was lumped in with Pynchon in general.
Slaughterhouse Five is definitely worth reading but what about Vonnegut's other novels? Would it be fair to say they lack the depth of a lot of the other writers listed here?
Never heard of House of Leaves - I'm not ... ... something more alluring is on offer. I can't put my finger on why, which is irritating.
Slaughterhouse 5 and Gravity's Rainbow not mentioned yet? Attempts to get us to buy books we already have are the new rage. First, there's "deluxe" edition of Gravity's Rainbow being promised at Amazon, and thehowlingfantods.com reports a "10th anniversary" edition of Infinite Jest will feature a foreword by Dave Eggers. The Hyper Arts Pynchon page is probably my favorite Pynchon website. The web guides for V., Gravity's Rainbow and Mason and Dixon are really useful: they provide just enough information to answer those nagging little questions about who, what, where and when, but no so much that the reader ... ... horror writers who were trying to expand out of their ghetto. I really think that there is something very different about Gravity's Rainbow and The Divinity Student. But someone like Harlan Ellison could very easily straddle the different concepts.
Lohengrin - I didn't say that the ... Prior to starting but after purchasing Gravity's Rainbow I read Richard Powers's Galatea 2.2 and enjoyed it immensely though it was flawed. On investigation I found it very common that Powers is compared to Pynchon.
So what do the Pynchon fans think of Powers? Who has read him? I've been struggling through Gravity's Rainbow for several months now and I think I'm only about 200 pages or so in.
I must be much more ignorant than I ever guessed because... what the hell is this book—I just don't get it at all. )-: I'm lookin' forward to Zak Smith's illustrated edition of Gravity's Rainbow, scheduled for release about a week before Pynchon's new novel:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0977312798/sr=8-1/qid=1154533829/ref=sr_1_1/104-1556164-9006303?ie=UTF8
The book is headlined as "A Picture for Eve ... ... right up there with what I consider to be one of the most funny things in all of literature: the British Candy chapter from Gravity's Rainbow (oh, Gawd! THAT one leaves me crying, it's so funny).
Douglas
"In the end, only kindness matters." ... GR! http://www.themodernword.com/gr/
It's graphics are very cool and it gives a pretty good synopsis of each chapter in Gravity's Rainbow. I think this is the one to which abductee referred earlier.
Here are corrections and additions to Weisenburger's GR Companion: http://english2.mnsu.ed ... |
