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Jingo (Discworld, Book 21) (original 1997; edition 1998)

by Terry Pratchett

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Title:Jingo (Discworld, Book 21)
Authors:Terry Pratchett
Info:Corgi Books (1998), Edition: First edition & printing in this form, Paperback, 413 pages
Collections:Your library, Novels
Tags:novels, fantasy, comic fantasy, humour, British humour, sharp dialogue, male authors, 20th century books, Discworld, POC characters, war, 2012 reading, Discworld: City Watch, special editions

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Jingo by Terry Pratchett (1997)



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*taps side of nose* Politics. ( )
  mrsrobin | Jun 24, 2017 |
This was my latest Discword reread, as I continue slowly making my way through the City Watch books. I have to say, I am very glad I embarked on this rereading exercise, even as sporadic as it is. These books are inevitably very much worth revisiting, and this one is perhaps more so than most.

Jingo sees a mysterious island suddenly rising from the depths of the ocean between Ankh-Morpork and the Klatchian empire, which leads to a looming war as both sides try to lay claim to the new piece of real estate.

It's got all the things one expects from a Disworld novel. It's funny, of course. Fred Colon and Nobby Nobbs, in particular, are trying very hard to outdo themselves as the bumbling comic relief. And the plot is pretty good. I didn't find it quite as engaging, in and of itself, as the plots of the previous City Watch books, but it serves as a vehicle for a lot of other wonderful stuff, and the payoff at the end is great. It also included some really good character stuff for Vimes. Well, admittedly, every book Vimes is in includes good character stuff for him, but this one features one of his most memorable moments ever. And there are also some sly, fun allusions to everything from Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories to Lawrence of Arabia.

But none of that is what makes this one notable. What makes it notable is that it's also a very strong satire of war, nationalism, and racism. A bit of satire or social commentary is utterly standard for Pratchett (and is possibly one of his best things, on a very long list of best things), but I think that it's usually done with a somewhat gentle touch, even if it's a gentle touch with a very sharp point. This time, though, it's full-bored, double-barrelled satire (to use a violent metaphor that's either highly appropriate or completely inappropriate, I'm not remotely sure which). In some ways, it's even more relevant now than when it was written, in 1997. Pratchett's depictions of racism and hostility towards immigrants from Klatch, the Discworld's equivalent of the Middle East, can get genuinely uncomfortable to read, for all that they're handled with Pratchett's customary light touch. But they're uncomfortable not in the wrong ways, but in exactly, precisely the right ones. Which leaves me feeling like maybe we could all do with a fresh read of this one about now. ( )
  bragan | Jun 4, 2017 |
Solid Pratchett on the development of several ongoing characters, but too obvious in its "why war and jingoism is bad" discussions, not much payoff from the extended involvement of Patrician Vetinari in the plot, and there's one scene early on, with the punchline "You did what?!" that seemed important, but if it mattered later, I missed it. ( )
  ChrisRiesbeck | Mar 29, 2017 |
This is a humorous fantasy novel about how the Commander of the City Watch stops a war between two should-be-allies by arresting the high command of each army.
  mcmlsbookbutler | Jan 26, 2017 |
I don't know what it was exactly, but Jingo didn't work for me. Maybe it's been too long since I last read about Vimes and the City Watch, maybe it's that reading a satire about bigotries against foreigners and war and politics in November/December 2016 was a little too on-the-nose. Maybe it's just not the kind of Discworld book I like (I didn't care much for Interesting Times, either).

Mostly, the book was too long. I wanted it to hurry up and stop lingering, and to especially quit it with the Vetinari/Colon/Nobby storyline. The joking about Nobby's gender/sex/virginity status, which was a constant refrain throughout the book but also a central plot element to that story thread, was awful and cringeworthy. Maybe Pratchett got better about that kind of thing after 1997, but it was incredibly uncomfortable in a personal sort of way to keep encountering.

I honestly don't really know that the Vetinari thread adds much of anything to the overall satire or plot structure. There's something about weaponry and inventions via Leonard of Quirm (possibly alluding to the Manhattan Project scientists?), but I mostly found him irritating or boring, and wanted to skip those scenes.

Overall a very meh kind of book that didn't give me the delight of Discworld like others have done. It certainly doesn't make me eager to pick up the next in the series, whichever one it is. ( )
  keristars | Dec 24, 2016 |
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Discworld goes to war, with armies of sardines, warriors, fishermen, squid and at least one very camp follower.

As two armies march, Commander Vimes of Ankh-Morpork City Watch faces unpleasant foes who are out to get him…and that’s just the people on his side. The enemy might be even worse.

Jingo, the 21st in Terry Pratchett’s phenomenally successful Discworld series, makes the World Cup look like a friendly five-a-side.
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Terry Pratchett is a phenomenon unto himself. Never read a Discworld book? The closest comparison might be Monty Python and the Holy Grail, with its uniquely British sense of the absurd, and side-splitting, smart humor. Jingo is the 20th of Pratchett's Discworld novels, and the fourth to feature the City Guard of Ankh-Morpork. As Jingo begins, an island suddenly rises between Ankh-Morpork and Al-Khali, capital of Klatch. Both cities claim it. Lord Vetinari, the Patrician, has failed to convince the Ruling Council that force is a bad idea, despite reminding them that they have no army, and "I believe one of those is generally considered vital to the successful prosecution of a war." Samuel Vimes, Commander of the City Watch, has to find out who shot the Klatchian envoy, Prince Khufurah, and set fire to their embassy, before war breaks out.

Pratchett's characters are both sympathetic and outrageously entertaining, from Captain Carrot, who always finds the best in people and puts it to work playing football, to Sergeant Colon and his sidekick, Corporal Nobbs, who have "an ability to get out of their depth on a wet pavement." Then there is the mysterious D'reg, 71-hour Ahmed. What is his part in all this, and why 71 hours? Anyone who doesn't mind laughing themselves silly at the idiocy of people in general and governments in particular will enjoy Jingo. --Nona Vero

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Samuel Vimes, Commander of the City Watch, heads off war when Ankh-Morpork and Al-Khali, the capital of Klatch, both lay claim to an island that has suddenly risen between them.

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