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Prince of Thorns by Mark Lawrence

Prince of Thorns (edition 2012)

by Mark Lawrence

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Title:Prince of Thorns
Authors:Mark Lawrence
Info:Harper Voyager (2012), Paperback, 416 sidor
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I do like some grim or dark fantasy but this I didn't really like, Jorg, the main character is a complete psychopath who leaves a trail of corpses in his wake and there were no real characters I could root for in this. Most of them were just scary. I get it that he was broken by his past and his experiences but he just has no impulse control whatsoever.

Jorg lives in a future where the apocalypse happened, it's very distantly in the past (reminded me of the Shanara chronicles for that); there are remnants of the past, of the builders, but they're legend. Jorg reads and understands more than people give him credit for and he's only a teenager. In certain ways he is how he is because he hasn't seen anything else, but also he's a psychopath.

I just didn't care about him, if he had died at the end I would have been indifferent and because of this I will probably not be reading on with this series. ( )
  wyvernfriend | May 22, 2015 |
An interesting take on the whole "Prince seeks his father's throne" story. Certainly different enough in its realism to catch you and keep you reading to see what happens next. It makes me curious about how Jorg progresses in the next two books in the series ( )
  ggoldby | May 6, 2015 |
I first heard of Mark Lawrence on Facebook. We became friends, and I ordered all of his books. Nice of me, huh? Recently, I have become an avid dark fantasy fan. Thank George R. R. Martin and Terry Goodkind for that. I will tell you, it is a most welcome change from horror. (Still love horror, just that fantasy is a welcome change, is all).

Prince of Thorns was not what I expected. I did not realize the main character is something of an anti-hero, evil (with reasons), and sinister, heartless and crotchety. Prince Jorg witnessed the murder of his mother and brother. Unable to free himself to help, their deaths have haunted his thirteen years. The prince is no boy. At nine years of age he commanded his own army, a loyal band of followers. They set out seeking revenge, leaving the sanctity of his father's kingdom. This book chronicles their (most bloody) adventures during the four year span. Returning home, the revenge not yer delivered, Jorg expects his father to at the very least welcome him back. Instead, the King wants Jorg to prove himself. The task is impossible. He basically "dares" Jorg and his band, along with limited help, to conquer a distant land. The task clearly impossible.

Jorg's reward for accepting the challenge becomes two-fold. The young prince gains magical insight, and strength, but also finds betrayal that no son should ever have to face. With spells cast, and spells broken, Jorg sets out on a new course. With the idea of revenge still central in his heart, Jorg longs to be more than a prince. He wants to become a King. With less men accompanying him than your might find seated around a card table playing poker, Jorg has one goal: To Put His Destiny In His Own Hands ...

Full of dark imagery, and grey prose, Mark Lawrence's first novel is unbelievably compelling. Putting it down at times was necessary, but I was always unable to forget about where I'd left the characters last. I needed to find out what happened next. When there is good news, there is also too often bad. The bad? I finished the book. The good -- I have King of Thorns in my hands and will begin reading it tonight!

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  ptom3 | May 2, 2015 |
I picked up Prince of Thorns in a discount book shop while on holiday. The first couple of pages grabbed my attention, so I bought it. I knew absolutely nothing about the controversy stirred by some of the main character, Jorg Ancrath’s actions. In fact, much of what appears to be bothering other people didn’t even make me blink. It’s a fantasy novel set in a future where wars and skirmishes are rife. The bloodshed and rapes that Lawrence writes about do, unfortunately, happen during times of conflict and tension.

What did bother me is the shambolic plot and what appears to be a total lack of editing. Was this book rushed to the shelves?
The plot has three distinct episodes, the first of which is by far the best and most coherently written, after which the editor went for lunch and never returned. By the second phase when Jorg returns home to his father’s castle the use of contrived plot devices if starting to get out of hand. These excruciatingly painful backwards-facing devices appear to be peppered in because the author had only just thought up how to get his hero, or anti-hero as some might view him, out of a tight spot. ‘I saw some tar back there, we can make lamps.’ Oh really? You never mentioned that tar on passing. How convenient. And so it goes on.

There is also the saga of the magical sword. No, Jorg’s sword does not hold any magical powers, but it keeps mysteriously reappearing in his hand. When he leaves it somewhere it is in the next scene, with no hint that he’s retrieved it. Given to someone else…never retrieved. Burnt to a cinder…oops, and there it is again, all shiny and new.
The list of discrepancies goes on and on. Location is another hic-up. They’re here, then there. Highly confusing. People do strange things as well. Characters are standing, fighting; then suddenly dismounting their steed within the space of two paragraphs within the same fast paced scene. Excuse me, but when did he get back on his horse?

These devices and lack of respect for the reader made me feel as if anyone reading this book is being mocked as an idiot who would never notice these things.

The hugely disappointing thing about this novel is that Mark Lawrence has some amazing turns of phrase, and sharp wit. It was these two things alone that kept me reading. I enjoyed his clever phrases; and Jorg’s internal dialogue that portrayed the youth’s character so extremely well. Now I understand what makes poor Jorgy tick.

Will I read the next book in the series? I’m not sure. As much as I love Lawrence’s style I don’t know if I have the stamina to keep flicking back through pages to get to grips with another poorly constructed plot; which is a shame, because with some decent editing The Prince of Thorns would be a notch above the ordinary.
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  ToniAllenAuthor | Oct 30, 2014 |
This is the beginning of a highly regarded fantasy series that begins when Jorg - prince and heir apparent of Ancrath - is quite young. The narration by Jorg alternates between when he is only nine and when he is all of fourteen.

At age nine, Jorg witnesses the murder of his mother, who is the Queen, and his younger brother. He vows to get revenge against Count Renar, whose men were behind the assassinations. Five years later, at age fourteen, Jorg has wreaked a lot of havoc as he and his “band of brothers” murdered, raped, and burned their way through the Empire, but he still hasn’t managed to get close to Renar.

By the end of the book though, he at least knows what has been holding him back, and is ready to commence the next stage of his journey.

WARNING! Spoilery Discussion Follows! Skip to Evaluation to avoid all spoilers.

I had several problems with this book. My biggest complaint is that what Jorg does and accomplishes not only at age 14 but at age 9, really, really stretches the limits of believability for me. I’m not just talking about Jorg’s personal behavior, but about his influence over others, all of whom are grown men and are criminals, fighters, and knights. Yet at both ages, Jorg is regarded as their leader, and this is even before they know that he is prince and heir to Ancrath.

In addition, yes, this is a fantasy, but there are a bit too many magic elements for my taste. Not only are there ghosts, necromancers, dream-witches, and other monstrous creatures, but there is the matter of the mages. It turns out that Jorg behaves as egregiously as he does because he is being manipulated by an evil mage. His nemesis is being manipulated by a rival mage. “We’re all pieces on someone’s board…” (i.e., "game of 'thorns'”). This is all very much in the tradition of classic stories of the chaos and bloodshed resulting from interference of the Greek gods, but I don’t much like it in that context either. I prefer characters to have self-determination.

This book is gory and full of grotesque images, which would be bad enough, but it is also full of amazingly bad attitudes toward women. There is nary a good thing said about any of them except for Jorg’s mother, the Madonna in this world full of whores. Even when Jorg finds a young woman his own age attractive, he considers her a threat to his independence and strength. Thus he prefers “painted whores” to satisfy his physical needs. In any event, none of these women receive more than cardboard treatment.

On the other hand, a rather clever and welcome surprise is the discovery that this medieval world is actually the result of the previous nuclear destruction of civilization - the Day of a Thousand Suns - some 1100 years in the past. Thus this is a post-apocalyptic story set in the future, rather than a story that looks back to ancient times. At least some of the monsters then become explainable as genetic mutations. Similarly, this twist explains the various “Builder” artifacts Jorg occasionally encounters, as well as the references to Western literature.


Evaluation: This is a brutal, bloody story replete with many disturbing images. The main character is as shockingly charismatic as he is cold-hearted, but the author does supply a reason for his pathology. It is possible his nature will “improve” in later volumes.

Note: This book and the two that follow it (King of Thorns and Empire of Thorns) have garnered a great deal of acclaim, received nominations and awards in the field of fantasy writing, and have resulted in a devoted fan base. It happens not to be my cup of tea, but that doesn't mean a lot of other people aren't enamored of this series. ( )
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Prince of Thorns is without a doubt the most original and most memorable fantasy debut of 2011. It's difficult to imagine how another book could top this one
added by mark32 | editRisingShadow.net, Sami Airola (Feb 27, 2011)
"This is a lean, cold knife-thrust of a novel, a revenge fantasy anchored on the compelling voice and savage purpose of its titular Prince. There is never a safe moment in Lawrence’s debut"

added by mark32 | editRobert V.S Redick
"Dark and relentless, the Prince of Thorns will pull you under and drown you in story. A two in the morning page turner."
added by mark32 | editRobin Hobb
Prince of Thorns by Mark Lawrence is the best fantasy read I’ve had since Alan Campbell’s Scar Night. It got hold of me from page one and didn’t let go...
The Prince of Thorns is an apt title for young Jorg - as a character he is not heroic at all. He is twisted and violent, calculating and merciless. Yet I couldn't stop reading - regardless how many times Lawrence's brilliant descriptions made me wince and clasp my hand to my mouth in disbelief. It was freaking awesome!

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"Before the thorns taught me their sharp lessons and bled weakness from me I had but one brother, and I loved him well. But those days are gone and what is left of them lies in my mother's tomb. Now I have many brothers, quick with knife and sword, and as evil as you please. We ride this broken empire and loot its corpse. They say these are violent times, the end of days when the dead roam and monsters haunt the night. All that's true enough, but there's something worse out there, in the dark. Much worse."

Once a privileged royal child, raised by a loving mother, Jorg Ancrath has become the Prince of Thorns, a charming, immoral boy leading a grim band of outlaws in a series of raids and atrocities. The world is in chaos: violence is rife, nightmares everywhere. Jorg's bleak past has set him beyond fear of any man, living or dead, but there is still one thing that puts a chill in him. Returning to his father's castle Jorg must confront horrors from his childhood and carve himself a future with all hands turned against him. The thorns taught him a lesson in blood...Copyright 2010, Mark Lawrence, All Rights Reserved.The Prince of Thorns is the first volume in a powerful new epic fantasy trilogy, original, absorbing and challenging.

Mark Lawrence’s debut novel tells a tale of blood and treachery, magic and brotherhood and paints a compelling and brutal, sometimes beautiful, picture of an exceptional boy on his journey toward manhood and the throne.
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When he was nine, he watched his mother and brother killed before him. By the time he was thirteen, he was the leader of a band of bloodthirsty thugs. By fifteen, he intends to be king... It's time for Prince Honorous Jorg Ancrath to return to the castle he turned his back on, to take what's rightfully his. Since the day he was hung on the thorns of a briar patch and forced to watch Count Renar's men slaughter his mother and young brother, Jorg has been driven to vent his rage. Life and death are no more than a game to him-and he has nothing left to lose. But treachery awaits him in his father's castle. Treachery and dark magic. No matter how fierce, can the will of one young man conquer enemies with power beyond his imagining?… (more)

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