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How Firm A Foundation (Safehold 5) (original 2011; edition 2011)

by David Weber

Series: Safehold (5)

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Title:How Firm A Foundation (Safehold 5)
Authors:David Weber
Info:Tor Books (2011), Edition: 1st, Hardcover, 608 pages
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How Firm a Foundation (Safehold) by David Weber (2011)



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This book is still part of the series that does not know how to get to the end. A series that wastes too many words on all the meetings it feels compelled to tell you about, with the terrible use of phonetic names.

There are some moments that work. The story of our young Ensign and then Lieutenant works, but these are vignettes within the entire book. It is as if someone had to tell you all about the Second World War, and instead of trying to tell you in one sitting, they broke down the years, and even though this is broken down into months, the way this is playing out is as if the years of WWII are just seasons, and each event, not major event, but each event, and all the national leaders, major cabinet members, and leading generals and admirals, with a few noncoms thrown in, have to have thier POVs on record in the tale.

You have nonsense about what a character who is never going to be seen again, likes to drink, or eat for breakfast. How he looks the first time you see them, and only time, because they are blown up in the next chapter.

768 pages that could have been just over 300.

This series is the middle and the middle and the middle. A book needs a beginning, middle, and end. The end here came of a tale that had some beginnings in the previous two books, but really started well after the first two-thirds of this tale had taken place.

Shame. Weber used to tell tales that entertained. Now BIG Paragraph dialogue is required by every character in every scene. If he was paid by the word, he would be putting Charles Dickens to shame by the amount of words he crams, but then, editors who paid by the word actually would have made this book accesible to readers. Perhaps the next will be better. But that is a faint hope. ( )
  DWWilkin | Sep 17, 2015 |
Wow! Thank God. How Firm a Foundation is so much better than its predecessor, A Mighty Fortress. A huge improvement. This was a great book to read. It's the fifth book in the Safehold series and Chiris is still fighting for its life against the evil Church of God Awakening. After the Church's complete naval battle destruction at the hands of the Charisian Navy, the Group of Four realize they have to resort to other methods. Or at least Grand Inquisitor Clyntahn does. He's an evil bastard, that one. He starts sending suicide bombers into Charis with horrible consequences. Thousands of people die. Merlin catches one before he can detonate, however, and they interrogate him and find out the Church's strategy. Meanwhile, Clyntahn decides to assassinate Prince Daivyn, the child prince of Corisande, Charis's defeated enemy that is now part of the Charisian Empire. Earl Coris, his protector, and his sister are in grave danger. They apply for asylum in Charis, are granted it, and Merlin is sent to get them out of their trap and bring them 180 miles to the river where members of the Charisian Navy and Marines will be waiting to get them out.

One of the really nasty things in the book is the torture and murders of the Charisian seamen captured in the naval battle in the last book by Earl Thirsk. He's instructed to give them up to the Inquisition, which he's appalled at as he knows what will happen to them, but he has no choice. What happens is gruesome. As a result, Charis announces that anyone found representing or fighting for the Inquisition will be executed on the spot. Personally, I thought they should have executed some of the 60,000 Church prisoners they had in retaliation, but Cayleb said he wasn't interested in vengeance.

More cool weapons are introduced in the book, leading to a great naval battle (all of Weber's naval battles are great), where Charis demolishes its opposition entirely. It's pretty sweet to see. Also, more people, including Charis's Inquisitor, are let in on the truth of Safehold and Merlin.

Empress Sharleyan survives an assassination attempt in Corisande, thanks to Merlin. It's truly frightening, especially as she's now a mother to the heir of the throne.

Clyntahn also finally goes after Siddarmark, getting his Inquisitor priests to lead massive uprisings against Charisian expatriates and the government, leading to tens of thousands of deaths and mass destabilization throughout the country. Just what Clyntahn has wanted for so long. He's so evil. I hope that Siddarmark will join Charis in the next book as a mainland empire to go after the Temple Lands and attack the Church on their home territory. I think they will.

The positives of this book are that it reads a whole lot faster than the previous book, even the previous two books. The previous book was SO plodding, it just got boring at times. The only boring part of this book is the beginning, when you start with 40 pages of a storm at sea with a ship trying to survive it. It does nothing to advance the plot and I'm willing to bet all of the nautical terms are lost on most of the readers, including me. It's frankly stupid. Additionally, it seems like there are fewer characters to keep track of and that's refreshing. The last book had nearly 500 characters and that's about 250 too many. The name spellings are still ridiculous and stupid, but I'm used to them by now, I guess, so I'm going with it. There's a ton more action in this book than in the previous couple of books, especially the last one. That's refreshing. The land rescue at the end of the book is especially a nice touch. Of course, this isn't a stand alone book. You have to begin with the first one and read the series in order to know what's happening. But it's worth it. This series is so addictive, even with the many problems one encounters in it. My main problem is it moves at such a slow pace, overall, that I worry if it'll ever finish before either I die or Weber dies, in which case I'll never find out what the hell happens! Still, strongly recommended as part of the Safehold series. ( )
  scottcholstad | Aug 28, 2015 |
Political intrigue, war on a global basis, what more could you want? This was a really fun read and I can recommend this to anyone who enjoys sci-fi, fantasy or historical fiction. The first book is great and the rest in the series follow along. I am ready though to see how he will wrap up all the story lines. ( )
  ConalO | Sep 21, 2014 |
Nicely continues the safe hold series. Althogh I enjoyed the series, I find the 'good guys' are just too good. as the gang-of-4 (bad guys) progressively do horrid things, the good guys continue to have a measured response.... Still all in all an enjoyable story.
  dkowald | Jul 17, 2012 |
Very good addition to the series. The characters are as engaging as ever and there's a lot of action going on. Not everything is going one the way of the good guys either. The Church is not going without a (vicious) fight! Can't wait for the next one. ( )
  Guide2 | Apr 12, 2012 |
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With each installment in this epic sf/fantasy blend, Weber sharpens his storytelling skills. The sixth volume (after Out of the Dark) creates a unique world in which medieval trappings serve as a buffer against an alien threat and generations live in blissful ignorance of the danger than lurks beyond the stars. Series readers and the author's wide fan base will want this.
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Hiding secret agendas from their subjects throughout a terrible war in the Charisian Empire, the Emperor and his inner circle of advisors launch a desperate counter-attack against a corrupt Church of God Awaiting that is complicated by a discovery in the Church's Zion Temple.… (more)

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