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will love Sign up for LibraryThing to find out whether you'll like this book. Like Ilium, this is a book that forcibly pulls me through the story. My will is not my own as I turn page after page. Just another 10 minutes I think, and then an hour has gone by... http://icantstopreading.wordpress.com... Nice theme and characters, poor setup, poor development, and no explanation. Random anti-muslim crap (I'm not muslim, but wtf?) By the end of Ilium, the first part of this book (as Simmons put it, imagine if they published War first and then waited a year or two for Peace), the Trojan War had gone completely off course, as the Greeks and the Trojans had formed an alliance in a war against the gods. The moravec expedition from the moons of Jupiter had joined forces with the Greeks/Trojans, and meanwhile the postliterate Eden of human Earth had fallen, with the robotic servants that had protected the humans turning against them and the technology that had guaranteed them exactly a century of life (for a price) destroyed. In Olympos, the Mars/Ilium plot and the Earth plot come together, although the characters from the two halves do not interact until the last hundred pages. There is an odd development involving a submarine near the end of the book as well- a strange threat that does not seem to relate to any of the others, and which is introduced a comparatively short time before it is solved, given that we are talking about at least sixteen hundred pages for the entire story. Its function seems to be only to put one of the humans at risk of death, and to remove a moravec ship, and surely there would be a way to accomplish those things that would be more related to the rest of the book? We knew from the first book that Hockenberry was severely opposed to the idea of homosexuality in the Iliad, saying that those who see it are looking from a modern perspective. That may be true, however it is as impossible to know that it was *not* there as it is to know for a fact that it was. I mention this again because at the end of Olympos, Hockenberry is just as hostile in emphasizing that he and a fellow scholic friend are partners in the business sense- not that anybody would expect Hockenberry to mean anything else, as he has shown no sign of being anything besides straight, but the passage suggests that the entire concept of male partners in the sexual sense is bizarre. A character being rather homophobic would be less unsettling if he weren't the only first-person narrator in the book. Those things said, this is an epic work, about the great potential of humanity for good and evil, and the fact that it has flaws should not stop anybody from reading it. Simmons' usual play with genres at its best. Who wouldn't like to think Prospero really existed, or that Proust's theories were real? 0.139 seconds to build listing
Amazon.com (ISBN 0380978946, Hardcover)Welcome back to the Trojan War gone round the bend. Hector and Achilles have joined forces against the Olympic Gods. Back on a future Earth, assorted creatures from Shakespeare's The Tempest get ready to rumble in a winner-takes-the-universe battle royale. And amid it all, a group of confused mere mortals with their classically trained robot allies (from Jupiter no less) race across time and space to keep from getting squashed as the various Titans of the Western Canon square off.Confused? It's all part of Dan Simmons's Olympos, a novel one part fun-with-quantum-physics and two parts through-the-looking-glass survey of Western Literature. Picking up where he left off in the high-wire act Ilium, Simmons doesn't disappoint. Not only is Olympos excellent hard science fiction and grand space opera, it's a riveting and fast-paced book that is alternately shocking, thrilling, and often deftly hilarious as his hapless human creations wrestle the forces of literary history itself. Be sure to read Ilium first though. That and a more-than passing familiarity with The Illiad might come in handy for the journey to Mars, Ilium's far-off shores, and the Earth that might be. --Jeremy Pugh
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Olympos is the sequel to Ilium, which set the stage for what’s happening in this book. In Olympos, we find the Achaeans, the Trojans, and the robots squaring off against people who theink they’re the Greek gods. We still don’t know why these gods are there, but it’s related to something that’s going on between Prospero, Ariel, Sycorax, Setebos and Caliban.
This series is an absolutely amazing read. And it’s so well done! If you’re interested in metafiction, I really recommend these books.
The other day I came across a very interesting scene in Olympos. Hockenberry goes to talk to Odysseus, to apologize for tricking him and basically kidnapping him. Odysseus, though, is rather drunk and is in the mood to talk and get maudlin. Among the things they talk about that I found really interesting, if only for the contrast, was the way they talk about war.
These two characters have such different experiences of war. Odysseus is from a culture that invented aristeia, the glory gained in single-combat with an enemy. Hockenberry is ostensibly from the twentieth century and had a father who fought on Okinawa during the middle of World War II–for him, war is mechanized, dehumanized, soul-killing, horrifying. For him, there is no glory in war, just killing.
So I wonder, what made that change happen? Was it the technology that made it possible to kill thousands in minutes? Was it the culture that started to realize that jingoism is horseshit, that it’s never over by Christmas, and that war is not glorious? Did these two things effect change in each other?
Given what I’ve read about World War I, the war were old tactics and strategies faced new technology, I tend to think that it’s the technology. Guns and bombs can turn anyone into a warrior, whether they are suited to it or not. No one had fought that way before, so no one was prepared for it. I don’t WWI was the first war where there was shell shock–but it was the first time we started hearing about large numbers of cases. And this certainly wasn’t the first time men were forced to march into artillery (remember Tennyson’s “Charge of the Light Brigade” about the “battle” of Balakava in the Crimea?), but during WWI, it was almost a weekly occurance. Look at what people started writing after WWI–people like Sigfried Sassoon, Wilfred Owen, and other poets wrote about the war.
There is a subtitle on First World War.com: the war to end all wars. It didn’t do that certainly, but it did change the way that people go to war now.
Interesting how a not-so-light conversation between to men drinking Medean wine can send you into such dark thoughts.
(Holy crap, has it really taken me three weeks to get this far? Gah!)
I am a little more than halfway through this book and questions I’ve had since the beginning are starting to be answered. Well, sort of, one of the characters has literally come up with a “Theory of Everything” that sounds plausible–at least in the universe of this novel. I finally have a pretty good idea why Prospero, Caliban, Setebos, the Greek Gods and heroes, and now Miranda are running around. I know what the bad guy is up to (though I don’t have a clue how they’re going to stop him).
Interesting reading this last week. The language got a little hairy though when it started talking about nano-enhanced DNA and quantum teleportation and multiple universes. I could follow the physics in Timeline* all right, but I had to reread some of this stuff just to figure out what they were talking about.
I’ve decided that there are two kinds of characters in this book, the ones who have a clue and ones who exist to have stuff done to them by the ones who have a clue and to be explained to. It gets a little irritating after a while, but this book is still so damn intriguing.
*P.S. They didn’t use fire arrows in the Middle Ages. That’s a Hollywood anachronism. Looks good on camera, though.
That took much longer than I thought it would. Usually the longest it ever takes me to read a novel of any size is two weeks–three if it was written before 1900 or so. The reason it probably took this long was because I had so much other stuff going on, particularly my NaNo project. I’ve been writing during the time I normally read. It’s thrown me all out of whack.
But, at last, I am done!
So, I’ve already mentioned that this book is pretty wild, plot wise. It incorporates Shakespeare, Homer, science fiction, and so on. I was hooked all the way through (as much as I could be given my time constraints). I enjoyed the sheer originality of it all.
The only problem I have, and I notice this the closer I got to the end as all the plot threads started to wind up, was with how convenient things got. People showed up just when they were needed. People got saved right in the nick of time mostly through luck or a really convenient set of circumstances. The closer I got to the end, the more frequently I found my self thinking, “Wow, these people have amazing luck.”
But for all the coincidences, I really enjoyed this duology and would recommend it to anyone who likes metafiction or science fiction.