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... thrown in. In fact a clone of Keats becomes a major character towards the end of the series. He also wrote Ilium and Olympos which are obviously SF versions of Homer. I would rank him as one of the elite writers active today. I just thought that I would pass that on in return for your ... Olympos and Ilium by Dan Simmons; breathtaking, fantastical, at times wildly funny, gruesome. Altogether wonderful.
Dan Simmons' Ilium and Olympos Not T.S. Eliot, although I'm presently reading Olympos by Dan Simmons, sequel to Ilium, which touches on Shakespeare a lot - particularly his sonnets and The Tempest. Might interest you. ... above average length for a SF novel. Ilium is 656 pages, Endymion is 624 pages, The Rise of Endymion is 816 pages, Olympos is 832 pages. Where are these short SF novels that Dan Simmons is supposed to have written? If anything I would say he is the exemplar of long (maybe over-long) ... ...
Children of the Mind by Orson Scott Card
Matter by Iain M. Banks
Eyes of the Calculor by Sean McMullen
Olympos by Dan Simmons
--then I'll probably give SF a rest and wander into some other genres for a bit. ... Hosseini
A Thousand Splendid Suns - Khaled Hosseini
The Ghost - Robert Harris
Dolores Claiborne - Stephen King
Olympos - Dan Simmons (won't have finished this by the end of March, but I've read enough to be certain that it belongs on the list) ... me so efficiently I had to bring it to work in order to read under the desk when my boss left the room!) and started Olympos (which is great so far, but will take me a while to get through because it's a weighty volume.) ... Harris
Kira-Kira by Cynthia Kadohata
Dolores Claiborne by Stephen King
A Fine-Tuned Universe by Alister McGrath
Olympos by Dan Simmons
Endymion by Dan Simmons Part of Ilium and Olympos are reenactments of the Trojan Wars, but the actual story of the two novels could only exist because of other aspects of the story - the moravecs, the posthumans, etc. It's been a while since I read them, but it's more than just the Iliad transplanted onto Mars.
Whil ... ... odd claim, since many SF stories are just recastings of historical event or mythical tales in a SF setting. Illium and Olympos spring to mind as obvious examples. If you can go one direction, it shouldn't be too surprising you can go the other. Hyperion and The Fall of Hyperion were better than Endymion and The Rise of Endymion. Ilium was better than Olympos. It seems Simmons is better at starting things then he is finishing them. ... books. Which is probably why I didn't enjoy it at all.
It's sci-fi, and darned good on its own, but Dan Simmons' Ilium/Olympos duology might be more enjoyable to those with a background in Homer, Proust, and Shakespeare (specifically, The Tempest.) Just remember that the Hyperion series is four novels--and not one of them under 400 pages! I liked Ilium and Olympos a bit better, but that may be because I have a long-standing affinity for the Greek gods. I thoroughly enjoyed The Terror but I was reading it in a freezing basement guest ... ... good horror novel by Simmons. I've read Ilium and thoroughly enjoyed it, but had a hard time getting into the sequel (Olympos). I haven't read the Hyperion series, but do plan to do so (sometime). Ha. And after Ilium, you have to read Olympos, as they're pretty much a diptych. A Banks novel would be shorter... ... reviews
Ilium 1292 copies, 24 reviews
Endymion 1275 copies, 8 reviews
The rise of Endymion 1117 copies, 8 reviews
Olympos 897 copies, 18 reviews
Hyperion is vaguley bsed on the Titans myth, with a tip of the hat to John Keats. Endymion furthers the story, mostly science fiction. ... ... I spent £96.
Jack Vance, Tales of the Dying Earth £1.50
Feist, Honoured Enemy £1.50
Dan Simmons, Olympos 99p
Robert Jordan, Knife of Dreams £1.49
So far so good - all of the above from charity shops
Then I walked past Waterstones
T H White, Sword in the ... #60 I liked the first two Hyperion books, but not the second two. Ilium promised to be a great sf diptych; Olympos didn't deliver.
#61 Not tried Tony Daniels, although I'm beginning to think I should. Robert Reed is... Well, I liked Marrow and its sequel. I also liked some of his ... 26:Illium by Dan Simmons
27.Olympos by Dan Simmons
I was a little disappointed by this set. Illium was good-complex, interesting, a little confusing. Olympos was all of these things as well, without nearly as much tying off, connecting & explaining as I wanted/expected. It almost felt like ... ... of courage, community, and war by Nathaniel Philbrick - 1226 owners, 31 reviews. V got it through a book club.
6. Olympos by Dan Simmons - 853 owners, 17 reviews. I read it, pretty good. It's SF with Greek Gods playing a major role. Quasi-homage to Homer.
7. Break no bones ... ... Simmons is not writing SF or horror, but his last book The Terror was excellent. I even prefered it to Ilium and Olympos. I'll keep reading Simmons (even his hard boiled detective novels) as long as he keeps writing. Loved The Lies of Locke Lamora but am having a very hard time ... I'm going for the baseline of 50. I'm off to a slow start, however.
October
1. Olympos by Dan Simmons (912 p)
The second book in, what I assume would be called, the Ilium Duology. Dan Simmons is the first author I've seen have the ability to weave multiple threads that have nothing to do ... Now that I'm finished with Ilium, I'm moving on to a reread of Olympos. Really alien aliens?
Setebos and Caliban as well as Ariel from Ilium / Olympos by Dan Simmons come to my mind. For someone recent, I think Dan Simmons has inventive Science fiction with Ilium and Olympos. I did like his Hyperion series from the 1990's, maybe better. I'd say that there's only two details that might keep Ilium and Olympos from qualifying:
1. It's set in the future, not "modern day." Though there is a modern-day person who has been brought back to life in the future.
2. The characters contemporary to the setting don't go back in time ... 31. Olympos by Dan Simmons - Thank God it's over. At times, this book was very interesting... there was just too much junk around the interesting parts to make it worthwhile. It picks up where Ilium left off, with the the heroes of the Trojan War battling the gods on Olympus, the Earth-bound ... ... by Tad Williams
Hardcase (A Joe Kurtz Novel) by Dan Simmons - after being vastly disappointed by Ilium and Olympos, I decided to try some of the other things Simmons has written. I should have quit while I was ahead. If you think uttering obscenities and killing people is great ... ... for the sequel, and there was no sense of closure at the end. Simmons has left me no choice but to continue on with Olympos.This book is a strange mix of classics and sci-fi which began to grow on me.
In Ilium, it is roughly 1500 years in the future. Earth is inhabited by a small ...
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