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... I thought it was brilliant, dark, twisted, and incredibly inventive. There are two follow-ups set in the same world - The Scar (also pretty good) and The Iron Council (still have to read this one). ... as steampunk:
The Difference Engine by William Gibson (324)
Perdido Street Station by China Mieville (271)
The Scar by China Mieville (150)
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Volume 1 by Alan Moore (114)
Iron Council by China Mieville (105)
The Diamond Age: Or, a Young ... ... time I cracked it open my eyes would glaze over. This is after being totally bowled over by Perdido Street Station and The Scar and chomping at the bit for Iron Council to arrive in the local bookstore. China Mieville's Bas Lag novels (Perdido Street Station, The Scar and The Iron Council) are New Weird with a dash of Steampunk.
You may also want to check out my thread ("So what exactly is Urban Fantasy?") here. Several ... ... other of his books, including Neverwhere and Anansi Boys; both yet to be read.
I'm half way through Mieville's The Scar. There's something fascinating about his Bas Lag books, even if I find his protagonists rather unlikeable. I suspect that is by design, as the main characters in ... ... Santana Row and ordered a bottle of Californian Pinot Noir and their cheese plate. I sat and read the opening chapters of The Scar, whilst enjoying Fromage D'Affinois and Roquefort, along with some surprisingly tasty local cheeses.
Is there any better combination on Earth? Goo ... omaca,
I am a fan of Perdido Street Station, and I highly recommend Mieville's other books (the next is The Scar).
I'm not a huge fan of urban fantasy though. Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere was already mentioned, it's pretty good. Charles de Lint is another author to consider. Moonheart ... ... so I held up three books to my wife and told her to pick one.
For the record, I held up The House in the High Wood, The Scar, and Against a Dark Background. She picked the latter. ... love to see China Mieville publish another Bas Lag book (after Perdido Street Station, The Iron Council and The Scar).
Another Culture novel from Iain M Banks would be very welcome (and I haven't even read Matter yet!).
Alas, we will be forever waiting for Jack Aubr ... ... Beasts of Eld - Coren's encounter with the Blammor.
2. The Changeling Sea - Peri's first meeting with Lyo.
3. The Scar - Bellis watching the takeover of the Terpsichoria by Uther Doul through a porthole. (This was my first Mieville book, and that scene really hit home how visceral ... ... Street Station was really cool, I'm re-reading it at the moment. A tad thick, but well worth it.
The second novel, The Scar is not quite as good, but still a great read. I'm planning to start Iron Council sometime soon too.
I just finished The Book of Laughter and Forgetting by ... #9 - It may be heresy around these parts, but despite some overwrought prose I really liked Perdido Street Station and The Scar. Neat ideas at least.
Still plugging away at War and Peace, and My Name is Asher Lev is actually starting to get some attention when I can take no more of 30 ... ... recommended. Thank you nemoman - I owe you one for that.
I've also gone ahead and purchased Perdido Street Station, The Scar, and King Rat; all by Mr. Mieville.
Another I have picked up and am in the process of reading is Court of the Air, which is a very steampunkish book, and ... Les Scarifiés de China Miéville.
J'avais bien aimé Perdido Street Station. ... oe.
This is clearly an early novel, as Mieville's writing is less polished than in novels like Perdido Street Station and The Scar, and he's clearly developing his voice and writing style. There were some scenes which didn't need to be described in so many words. However, it is a bit more ... >25 The Scar is a pirate story (how very timely) set in the Bas Lag world but not in New Crobuzon. And, I believe, it is set in the same time period as Perdido. Bella Coldwine, the protagonist, is fleeing the city. I think, she is a former lover of the scientist in Perdido (I forget his name, but ... I'll move The Scar up the wishlist, then, I think! #21 yeah, the scar iirc is the next in line. And then, a bit later in time, Iron Council. If you liked Perdido, i think you'll like the rest (and, the converse is true, i think. No one to whom i loaned Perdido liked it at all - not family, not friends. I think Un Lun Dun might work for a ... ... novels blurred to any extent possible.
Un Lun Dun does look interesting. Although I was thinking about picking up The Scar next... That's set in the same universe as Perdido Street Station, yes? It did seem to me like a world worth revisiting. ... fits the Urban Fantasy classification, but I really liked Perdido Street Station by China Mieville. His other books The Scar is maybe a bit outside of Urban and more a Maritime Urban Fantasy. ... Station by China Mieville. That was a great read. Really fantastic imagery. I'm looking forward to checking out The Scar.
I am a huge Clive Barker fan so I would definitely recommend Weaveworld, Imajica or The Great and Secret Show. There are certainly horror elements ... ... and I MUST HAVE MORE. This group looks like a good place to find it.
So I'll suggest Perdido Street Station and The Scar by Mieville as well as Veniss Underground by Vandermeer.
If anyone here has read those can you suggest anything equally twisted and well-written? ... Ha, ha, ha. Actually we talk about London. His favorite place in the world and thinly disguised in all his books (yes, The Scar is London underwater). And with any author you can always talk about what's about to be published and how the book biz is tanking. Or how he thought up all the ... I like China personally, but I could not finish Perdido Street Station or Iron Council. Instead I would suggest The Scar, much more accessible.
Having just reread Stranger in a Strange Land (horrible, horrible, babel) and Gateway (whiny, whiny, stupid), I really liked Neuromancer. ... Fantasy other (non-epic)
1. China Miéville - The Scar
2. China Miéville - The Iron Council
3. George R.R. Martin - Fevre Dream
4. George R.R. Martin - Dreamsongs (story collection)
5. Scott Lynch - Red Seas under Red Skies
6.
7.
8.
9. ... was a big mistake; my poor TBR is now painfully swollen. :(
I got:
The Crossroads of Twilight by Robert Jordan
The Scar by China Mieville
The Other Side of the Story by Marian Keyes
Rachel's Holiday by Marian Keyes
Dragonfly in Amber by Diana Gabaldon
Voyag ... ... novels of any kind, but I would've read anything she wrote. This tale and China Mieville neighborhood of vampires in The Scar are the extent of my vampire reading. Wasn't Doro a bit of a vampire for all intents and purposes? I owned The Children's Hospital briefly but passed it off to a friend. I'm sure The Scar would be a darker story. Oh, how about reading Door into Ocean by Jona Slonczewski? Have you read that one? ... you've offered, which would you recommend most?
P.S. Have you read The Children's Hospital? Your description of The Scar made me think of it. It's a McSweeney's title. I haven't decided what I think about McSweeney's list in general or The Children's Hospital in particular. I ... ... The True Story of the Mutiny on the Bounty.
For those who like something more unusual, I'd recommend China Mieville's The Scar sort of a pirate story set in the ocean on an alternate UK. Well, actually it's on an island made entirely of boats and ships of all kinds which have been captured. ... ... William Gibson (232)
Perdido Street Station by China Miéville (183)
The Steampunk Trilogy by Paul Di Filippo (46)
The Scar by China Miéville (101)
Iron Council by China Miéville (80)
Agatha Heterodyne & the Beetleburg Clank by Phil Foglio (36)
Agatha Heterodyne & the Airship C ... ... order:
The Futurological Congress : Stanislaw Lem
Ubik : Philip K Dick
Parable of the Sower : Octavia E. Butler
The Scar China Mieville
The Iron Dragon's Daughter : Michael Swanwick
The October Country : Ray Bradbury
Deathbird Stories : Harlan Ellison
The Instrumentality ... ... Bester
* Starfish, Peter Watts
* Carlucci, Richard Paul Russo
* Viriconium, M. John Harrison
* Scar, China Mieville
* The Road, Cormac McCarthy
* The End of Mr. Y, Scarlett Thomas
* Cloud Atlas, David Mitchell
* Tales of the Dying Earth, ... 44. The Scar by China Mieville
This one took a surprisingly long time to get through, but it was very very good. Oddly different from Perdido Street Station-same world, same feel, but the story had a different scope, different pacing, and a very intriguing ending.
45. Harry Potter and the Cham ... ... wäre die zweite Lösung, weil es ja beide Ausgaben in dieser Form im Original nicht gibt.
Das gleiche gilt auch für The Scar vom selben Autor.
Es gibt auch den (seltenen) Fall, dass in der deutschen Ausgabe zwei Bände des Originals zu einem zusammengefasst werden (Weltensturm von ... I would suggest China Mieville's following works:
Perdido Street Station and The Scar.
One sequels the other, but both are stand alone books. ... Luminous, Sandman: Worlds' End, The Pastel City, The Complete Chronicles of Conan, The Swords of Lankhmar, The Scar, The Dragon in the Sword, The Thief of Time (Discworld)
Favorite drink: Islay single malts, Czech pilsners, French vodkas, Bombay Sapphire gin and Sch ... Try China Miéville's Perdido Street Station, The Scar and Iron Council. Bas-Lag is populated with a fascinating variety of "alien" races...
Cheers,
Ant If you want some slipstream weirdness, The Scar by China Mieville would be good. ... updates (in no particular order - just how they're lying on the couch at present - need to put them away soonish)
21. The Scar - China Mieville
This was good. I think I may have started it before as the first couple of chapters 'felt' familiar. I've been told for ages that I should read ... ... Trilogy
Jeffrey Vandermeer's City of Saints and Madmen
China Mieville's Perdido Street Station and The Scar
Alastair Reynolds's Century Rain and Pushing Ice
Iain M. Banks's Feersum Endjinn and Against a Dark Background
As for books I've read a number ... Currently reading The Scar by China Mieville. ... speculative fiction I would recommend:
All of China Mieville's books - but especially Perdido Street Station and The Scar. King Rat is also great as a debut novel and not as widely known.
The Etched City by K.J. Bishop is also excellent if you enjoy Mieville's work.
Vi ... ... of books I own I probably won't finish: Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell (loved the others), Iron Council by China Mieville (The Scar is a favourite).
Hera, message 67 (sorry, can't find hash on my keyboard!): Why did you read ALL of HP if you hate them so much? Agree about showering and The Ce ... ... list: Garth Nix for his Old Kingdom trilogy, though I like his other books too.
As a footnote, I think Mieville's The Scar is his best book - much more absorbing than Perdido Street Station. #11 (waaaaaaaay up there!)
I loved, loved, loved Perdido Street Station! I just finished The Scar last night. Time to get Iron Council. Yay! I'm reading The Scar right now. Perdido Street Station is one of my favorite books. Favorites?
Altered Carbon
The Scar
Permutation City
On My Way To Paradise
The Anubis Gates
my sister quite liked City of Pearl but I haven't read it. China Mieville's The Scar has a significant bit of information hidden in a disorganized library, so he evidently likes using libraries in stories ... partial these days to urban fantasies along the line of China Mieville's New Crobuzon series (Perdido Street Station, The Scar and Iron Council).
I also like classic fantasy, particularly those with a Lovecraftian rather than Howardian bent (Michael Moorcock's Elric of Melnibone ... >61 The Scar is indeed subtler, more accomplished, than Perdido Street Station in my opinion as well, mdbenoit. I don't really feel it would make as many converts as Perdido Street Station does, however, precisely because it's subtler. THe style is so much more raucous, more vivid, in Perdi ... >12 richardderus, I'm also a fan of Mieville. Perdido Street Station was my first. I've read all of his now. The Scar wasn't as impressive (maybe because I was by now familiar with his style) but I found it much subtler. I preferred it to Perdido. ...
>#201
I liked Perdido Street Station better than the other books I've read of his, but I've only read King Rat and The Scar. The Scar I only made it about a quarter of the way in before I gave up. But I quite liked King Rat.
You know who China Mieville reminds me of? He ... ... count?)
Jane Austen: Obstinate Heart by Valerie Grosvenor Myer
Fortress in the Eye of Time by C.J. Cherryh
The Scar by China Mieville (This may be pushing it.)
Black Heart, Ivory Bones by Ellen Datlow
Oathblood by Mercedes Lackey
The Eye of the World by Ro ... Perdido Street Station belongs to my boyfriend, but I own The Scar. It keeps us together. :) ... of China Mieville. Iron Council is still sitting on my shelf waiting to be read, but Perdido Street Station and The Scar were some of my favorites.
The Light Ages by Ian R. MacLeod was a good read in the magic/steampunk arena (as opposed to the pure technology steampunk). I ... ... there.
Almost forgot to mention my favorite book of all time Perdido Street Station also China Mievilles other books The Scar and The Iron Council. All excellent and include many elements of steampunk.
... say are plain SF or fantasy. For example it surprises me that anyone considers Mieville's Perdido Street Station and The Scar slipstream. Same for Only Forward and Sundiver. I loved The Scar by Mieville, the storey takes a complete step sideways and I love books that jarr you out of reality. ... atmosphere that they evoke. I would love to wander around New Crobuzon, even more so amongst the city in the next book The Scar I have really enjoyed Scar by China Mieville but it kinda blurs the line between Sci Fi and Fantasy.
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