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The History of the Peloponnesian War

by Thucydides (Author)

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I was shocked at how much I loved this from first read. I know that often the view people have towards classics is of something boring, stiff, and stodgy--an absolute slog to get through. Right now, I'm making my way through Tacitus Annals of Imperial Rome. There are some eye-popping gossipy parts, and it certainly gives you a sense of Roman civilization and Roman barbarism, but much of it is a dry slog. Thucydides and his history has some dry, pedantic patches, yes, but overall its shockingly readable and wears its age well. Maybe it helps he was a participant in events. Thucydides himself, an Athenian, was one of the city-state's generals in this war in the 4th century BC that lasted over a quarter of a century with devastating effect on all of Greece. It's as if Colin Powell told the story of the two American-Iraqi Wars or Eisenhower wrote an account of both World Wars and the Cold War. Except Thucydides tells the story, if not in a detached way, than one that comes across as even-handed. It's not as if you don't get his opinion on various figures and events--you definitely do. The character of Alcibiades comes through as fascinating and complex, Pericles as admirable. But there's no evident animus towards Sparta, Athens' adversary in the conflict. Sure Thucydides has his faults by modern standards of scholarship. It's hard to know what he left out or slanted since it's not as if many other versions of the events survived--certainly not in this detail. But Thucydides seemingly makes up speeches and conversations and otherwise acts in ways even our Capote-inspired creative narrative historians such as McCullough and Chernow wouldn't dare. But Thucydides invented history--the study of events, the people and forces that shape them, without attributing them to the acts of Gods. Nor did he write merely history, but literature--the kind of work you can read and reread and come away with new insights each time. ( )
1 vote LisaMaria_C | May 23, 2013 |
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  jmcdbooks | Jan 30, 2013 |
Saga Pelópsskagastríðsins sem sem geysaði á milli grísku borgríkjanna árin 431-404 f.Kr., http://visindavefur.hi.is/svar.asp?id=4579, er að mörgu leyti heillandi lesning. Ekki síst er hrífandi að hlýða á yfirvegaða og greinargóða lýsingu Þúkýdídesar sem er höfundur frásagnarinnar og hefur jafnan verði nefndur fyrsti sagnfræðingurinn fyrir það hvernig hann segir frá viðfangsefninu.

Mér veittist hins vegar dálítið erfitt að fylgjast með atburðarásinni því að ritstjórar þessarar hljóðbókar ákváðu að láta hana hljóma án innsetninga og skýringa. Eingungis var boðið upp á formála og eftirmála þar sem helstu atburðir og perónur voru settar í samhengi. Fyrir vikið var oft á tíðum erfitt að átta sig á því hvar borgríkin og staðir voru staðsettir í nútímanum og ef þeir voru þekktari undir öðrum nöfnum. Í raun hefði þurft kort eða lýsingarinnskot lesara. Nokkuð sem mér fannst draga útgáfu sögunnar nokkuð niður. ( )
  SkuliSael | Jan 27, 2013 |
Edition: // Descr: xvi, 647 p. : maps 19 cm. // Series: Everyman's Library Call No. { 888 T42 7 } Translated by Richard Crawley Contains Index. // //
  ColgateClassics | Oct 26, 2012 |
One thing I definitely noticed is that contrary to all the talk about how dispassionate and objective the thing is supposed to be, Thucydides makes all kinds of really explicit value judgments about people and decisions that they make. It's mostly impartial in the sense of not taking the side of Athens against Sparta, but he heaps praise on his favorite politicians from both sides and scorn on the people on both sides that he thinks made foolish choices.

Probably the most entertaining parts were the intrigues of Alciabades and Tissapharnes near the end where they're both trying to play both sides against each other and against each other too. Oh Alciabades, you scamp. ( )
2 vote jhudsui | Sep 1, 2012 |
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Finley, M. I.Introductionsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
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Thucydides the Athenian wrote the history of the war fought between Athens and Sparta, beginning the account at the very outbreak of the war, in the belief that it was going to be a great war and more worth writing about than any of those which had taken place in the past.
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The Corcyraeans...went to the sanctuary of Hera and persuaded about fifty men to take their trial, and condemned them all to death. The mass of the suppliants who had refused to do so, on seeing what was taking place, slew each other there on the consecrated ground; some hanged themselves upon the trees, and others destroyed themselves as they were severally able. During seven days...the Corcyraeans were engaged in butchering those of their fellow-citizens whom they regarded as their enemies: and although the crime imputed was that of attempting to put down the democracy, some were slain also for private hatred, others by their debtors because of the moneys owed to them. Death thus raged in every shape; and as usually happens at such times, there was no length to which violence did not go; sons were killed by their fathers, and suppliants dragged from the altar or killed upon it, while some were even walled up in the temple of Dionysus and died there.
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Written four hundred years before the birth of Christ, this detailed contemporary account of the struggle between Athens and Sparta stands an excellent chance of fulfilling the author's ambitious claim that the work "was done to last forever." The conflicts between the two empires over shipping, trade, and colonial expansion came to a head in 431 b.c. in Northern Greece, and the entire Greek world was plunged into 27 years of war. Thucydides applied a passion for accuracy and a contempt for myth and romance in compiling this exhaustively factual record of the disastrous conflict that eventually ended the Athenian empire.

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Presents an English translation of the Greek text which provides an account of the people and events involved in the long, fifth-century conflict between Athens and Sparta, and includes notes, a glossary, and other resources.

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