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... one that doesn't bog down. If you like the harder stuff, then give Schild's Ladder by Egan a try.
I also recommend Altered Carbon, a gritty cyberpunkish detective story. It's brutally violent, though.
#54 - SwampIrish
Altered Carbon and Pandora's Star and Stranger in a Strange Land is a very interesting set. Was the choice of books random? Are you re-reading any of the titles for critical or academic reasons? I would love to find the time to experiment with reading multiple science ... I am simultaneously reading Altered Carbon, Pandora's Star and Stranger in a Strange Land. I finished up Necrosope III: The Source a couple of weeks ago. ... for a space opera epic
Against A Dark Background - good space opera romp, although violence might upset the censors
Altered Carbon - one of my favourite books ever, would make an incredible, if violent, film
Footfall - I've been wondering about this one for about twenty years too. It' ... ... love/hate relationship with the Hyperion novels of Dan Simmons (his most recent stuff unreadable, alas).
Liked the Altered Carbon books.
I liked Gateway but never got around to reading the series.
Hope it's not too gauche to say I like my own books ("Mind over Matter" series) as ... 79: Altered Carbon was cool, and Market Forces was even better, I thought. I'll nominate an old, a middle and a newer.
Earth Abides by George R Stewart
Hyperion by Dan Simmons
and
Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan.
I recently read China Mieville's The City and the city and think that would be very ripe for discussion by a group, but I won't nominate ... Altered Carbon. I've read it before, but didn't post up a review at the time. I'll get around to it in a few days, but it is a 5/5 book.
I've currently got two reading projects going - I am re-reading my favourite books, and also re-reading my entire library, in order to rate books, post ... I also like Richard Morgans Takashi stories.(ALtered Carbon etc)
Peter F Hamilton's Greg Mandel Stories.And his commonwealth sagas.
Both Morgan and Hamilton have interesting takes on regeneration or "living forever".
I liked the Ender series, but read them a long time ago.
I ... ... series (Star Fraction, Stone Canal, Cassini Division, Sky Road)
Wright's Golden Age series.
Morgan's Altered Carbon stories.
Do The Culture novels count as a series?
Oh, and Brin's Uplift series, well the first few anyway. ... Phlebas and suggest these instead....
Helliconia Spring / Summer / Winter (Aldiss)
Feersum Endjinn (Banks)
Altered Carbon (Morgan)
Cryptonomicon (Stephenson)
The Golden Age / Phoenix Exultant / Golden Transcendence (Wright)
Blindsight (Watts)
Accelerando (Stross)
... #22 Not sure. Not read it . Only read his Altered Carbon and Black Man - altho I do own Broken Angels. (And The Steel Remains too.) I've read Altered Carbon, and liked it. I have Market Forces somewhere around here, maybe i'll tackle that next. ... and gone and I didn't make it to 50 but I have enjoyed keeping up with what I read so I'll continue with the list.
23 Altered Carbon by Richard K Morgan
24 Same kind of different as me by Ron Hall ... and Crake, both excellent novels by Margaret Atwood.
The Stainless Steel Rat by Harry Harrison was lots of fun.
Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan was a pretty good cyberpunk detective novel. The first person narration played an important role in communicating the experience of having ... ... compared to true life.
Ahh just caught myself copying again {or borrowing heavily} didn't Richard K. Morgan preface Altered Carbon or one of the series with something similar whenever he gave a disclaimer for the violence in his novels?
I did like Sting's performance as Feyd? in David ... ... well. So, let me list just three authors that got me excited again...
Richard K. Morgan - Takeshi Kovacs series
- Altered Carbon
- Broken Angels
- Woken Furies
Jeff VanderMeer - Veniss Underground
Rereading that one again now
Alistair Reynolds - numerous ... Off the top of my apical appendage:
Neuromancer
Solaris
Blood Music
Snowcrash
Look to Windward
Dune
Altered Carbon
Ringworld
Hitchhiker Guide to the Galaxy
Hothouse
Crash
Fahrenheit 451
Tiger! Tiger! (aka The Stars My Destination)
Serpent's Reach
Old Man ... ... iller
The Atrocity Archives by Charles Stross
The People Trap by Robert Sheckley
Bug Jack Barron by Norman Spinrad
Altered Carbon by Richard K. Morgan
ETA: typo ... and elsewhere) is a particularly smart way of working. They also get a number of books / authors wrong. Richard Morgan's Altered Carbon is a PS although his later Broken Angels is a PR. One of Harlan Ellison's collections of adult SF is a PZ, as is Aldiss's Barefoot In The Head (which is ... #26 - Thanks for the review of The Steel Remains. I was instantly hooked by Morgan when I read Altered Carbon. I owe a great debt of gratitude to whoever left their dogeared copy lying around on the staff room table so that I could pinch it! I've since listened, rather than read, to all the ... Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan
And you should definitely read Snow Crash.
Also this: http://project.cyberpunk.ru/ Check out the library. ... Award*.
Currently I'm slogging through City at the End of Time still. After that I might cleanse my palate with Altered Carbon.
*NB, I haven't actually read all of it yet... ... my profile page to fit what I am reading. I have been procrastinating :-P
I just finished, last Monday, a book called Altered Carbon that was very good. It's a hard-boiled mystery novel set in the far future, which lead to an interesting genre and premise in of itself.
I have recently ... ... to post here and see what diffrenet names and books get thrown out there. Here are a few to kick it off
Takeshi Kovacs Altered Carbon
Hiro Protagonist Snow Crash
Dmitri Ravinoff (Raven)
Molly Millions Mona Lisa Overdrive ... Margarita, which I did not want to end, for I was enjoying it far too much.
Now, I am reading a borrowed sci-fi called Altered Carbon.
I hope all of you are well.
Daniel ... you I was not disappointed. I think we see two things happening -
1) Morgan develops as a writer during this series - Altered Carbon was published in 2002 and was his first novel; and Woken Furies, his fourth, was published in 2005; but more importantly...
2) Takeshi Kovacs is on a ... ... years before I read it. I think I just didn't want the series to end.
I re-read the first 2 books in the series: Altered Carbon , which was also a book group read for this year, and Broken Angels. Both very good too. I read them back in 2004 and was rusty on the details.
Ronnie ... Should I post this in a new topic - What are you reading Dec. 08?? It is getting to be a long file.
Just read Altered Carbon which I saw mentioned here at LT. Great read!!! Good mindless enjoyment more like Heinlein than anything Card ever did.
Are Richard Morgan's other books great ... ... the John Woo film). In any case, Morgan in an excellent recommendation to fit that hole. Though I'd put Black Man above Altered Carbon.
Literary-wise, I haven't read Coelestis (though I've had a copy sitting on my desk this past week; it's next to me as I type, even) so I'd recommend Hy ... Let's see...
... if you read thrillers, you'll like Altered Carbon.
... if you read romance, you'll like Primary Inversion.
... if you read literary fiction, you'll like Coelestis.
... if you read historical fiction, you'll like Farthing
... and I can't actually think of good ... ... for a discussion SF last year so I had a nagging feeling that I had read it before. Second is that I had justed finished Altered Carbon and wow talk about switching gears...
So now I have started Time out of Joint my first PKD and I'm about a third of the way though. I am getting the ... Neuromancer is probably "more important" but i'd say that Altered Carbon is the better book..though i like them both. I finished Altered Carbon last week and really liked it nice and gritty and know I can't remember why I stopped reading it the first time around.
Currently I'm on a end of summer classic SF read though of books I have never read. This way I can clear some space on the self before I start in on ... ... Cooper
and Closer-Dennis Cooper
(No American Psycho without those Cooper books!)
Some SF books:
Dr Adder-KW Jeter
Altered Carbon-Richard Morgan
What I'm reading now The Sheep Look Up by John Brunner,is unquestionably disturbing.
Crash, The Unlimited Dream Company, High Rise ... Definitely read Altered Carbon. You might try The Demolished Man by Alfred Bester or some Philip K. Dick as well. I just finished The Electric Church by Jeff Somers. It was pretty standard cyberpunk, but it was a good read. I also got all the books in this series, other than Revelation Space, that I already had in an older edition, and Altered Carbon, that seemed to be sold out when I got them. (Though I seemed to be mistaken, and should order it.)
I would love to see them expand this concept. Even better would ... ... of that sort of thing, and there's nothing by Gibson left to read, one may be tempted to reach for Richard K. Morgan's Altered Carbon.
Don't succumb to that temptation. There is the odd interesting idea in the first entry in Morgan's Takeshi Kovacs series, but at the end of the day Kov ... From amazon.com:
Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan
Winterbirth by Brian Ruckley
The Android's Dream by John Scalzi
The Last Wish by Andrzej Sapkowski
The Dispossessed by Ursula K. LeGuin
They Came to Baghdad by Agatha Christie
The Secret of Chimneys by Agath ... From BookMooch today:
Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan and Daniel Isn't Talking by Marti Leimbach
both, I believe, were LT inspired... #25 Could not say id I agree with you yet - Altered Carbon is on the TBR mountain. @22: Altered Carbon by Richard K. Morgan is very noir as well. Moreso, I'd say, than Gibson's sprawl books. ... books by the same authors if you like those :)
30 years, you say? Then also Eon if you missed it. It has aged well.
Altered Carbon, Foreigner, and Glory season have a bit less of the science and a bit more of the social consequences.
Wow, that's eight! Almost there. Let's see. I ... I loved Altered Carbon and the concept behind Market Forces was amusing. I have read all his books, and I think that starting with Thirteen is probably the worst one to start with.
I would recommend starting with Altered Carbon
There is another author who I cannot remember who ... FWIW, I read his Altered Carbon and found it sorta interesting. He does a good job of creating a new world, in which people are reincarnated by slipping them into new "sleeves," but I didn't get a strong sense of how the characters were affected by this world. Kovacs is a bit of an enigma, ... 27. Altered Carbon by Richard K. Morgan
Dirty, delicious, brutal cyberpunk. Really not for the squeamish--there were bits where, if it had been a film, I'd have covered my eyes for a moment, but that's awfully hard to do when you're reading--but it digs some new(ish) and interesting ... I just finished Altered Carbon last week. Big, meaty story. Then I moved on to Vance's Trullion: Alastor 2262. What an offbeat thing that was!
I'm three quarters through Vonnegut's Galapagos right now. I was a little hostile and resistant to it initially, but now I'm "getting the joke". It's ... I was given Glasshouse for Christmas although I've yet to read it. Altered Carbon I have read, however, and I also thought it was pretty good. ... after perusing some of the books on all of your reccomendations, I've decided not to throw in the towel.
I'm picking up Altered Carbon on my way home from work today. It sounds pretty cool. If that goes well I will hit up the rest of Richard Morgan's series and then I'm looking at maybe ... Amtep,
Altered Carbon is actually on my to read list and although I have never heard of Noir or its author, I will definitely give it a try.
Thanks for the letting me rant people! And thanks for the suggestions, too. :-) You might want to try Altered Carbon. It's largely a murder mystery in a cyberpunk setting, and even though it follows many of the conventions of the genre, it has a different mood.
There's also Noir, which my wife really liked.
Both are technically cyberpunk, but might be different ... ... way, Neal Asher is excellent - I discovered his work before I read any of the Richard Morgan works starting with Altered Carbon and boy was i happy to have such a string of exciting books to read. That was a good couple of weeks.
children of chaos
Thief of Lives
Altered Carbon
Moon Called
Small Gods ... - are pretty much hard boiled crime books set in an alternate history world, though.
I've had Richard Morgan's Altered Carbon recommended to me (along 'if you like JCG you'll love RM' lines), though I can't personally say how well that fits. I have seen him speak at cons on crime ... ... read
10. The Handmaid's Tale -phenomenal
11. Book Lust -Great reference
12. Stiff -Creepy, gross, great read
13. Altered Carbon -interesting concepts
14. The Omnivore's Dilemma -I love Michael Pollan's books
15. 100 Years of Solitude -slogging through this one I also enjoyed Altered Carbon and recently read Spares by Michael Marshall Smith which was good too. But the vote for my favorite would be Noir by K.W. Jeter. The touchstone doesn't seem to be working for it.... I enjoyed Altered Carbon quite a bit, too.
On the other hand, I have a second opinion on Kim Stanley Robinson: I got through about 2/3 of Red Mars and I have to say I wasn't that impressed. The speculative science was interesting, but the temporality of the narrative is so spread out ... ... the very beginning, with the love interest. But the infamous "impaling herself" sex scene was a bit vulgar. I also enjoyed Altered Carbon by Richard K. Morgan recently. Favorites?
Altered Carbon
The Scar
Permutation City
On My Way To Paradise
The Anubis Gates
my sister quite liked City of Pearl but I haven't read it. Same way I forgot Richard Morgan I guess, but I was thinking mind melting, not super agents or the Altered Carbon stuff I guess. :) ... The World.
Neal Asher is another in the ranks of new British space opera and worth reading. Richard Morgan's Altered Carbon is hardboiled noir with a twist.
Robert Charles Wilson's Spin (and some of his other work) are great. Joe Haldeman has returned to something ... Altered Carbon
Chasm City
The Reality Dysfunction
all seemed to be good at that, to me. ... a serious tone.
I would second the suggestion of Richard Morgan's series focused on Takeshi Kovacs - starting with Altered Carbon. It has most of what you want and is well written to boot, and there is enough there to be a bit more than mindless entertainment.
You may also want to ... ... Logan's Run is in that vein too, fancy gun, and not so nice a place outside.
Patrick Tilley's Amtrak Wars
Altered Carbon is a noir private investigator story. Definitely your Blade Runner kind of thing.
Captain Future by Edmond Hamilton is a pulp space hero/trouble ... ... a buncha books from bn.com resellers, of course, the book I want to read Trinity last came first.
I just finished Altered Carbon last night and started The Drowning Man which I will drop the instant A Suitable Boy gets here. ...
40. Downbelow Station, by CJ Cherryh
41. Bold as Love, by Gwyneth Jones
42. Pearl City, by Karen Traviss
43. Altered Carbon, Richard Morgan
44. NeoAddix, Jon Courtney Grimwood
45. Hardboiled Wonderland and the End of the World, Haruki Murakami
46. Illium by Dan Simmo ... I'm in the middle of The Lost Painting by Jonathan Harr. Am really enjoying it. Will probably start Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan or The Historian after that. Depends on whether or not I'm feeling sci-fi-ish. ... a race.
His Majesty's Dragon for taking what looked like a dodgy concept and executing it to great affect.
Altered Carbon for being one of the best hard SF novels I've read in awhile, and for being one of the best cyberpunk novels I've ever read.
When Thunder Rolled for ... Chasm City,Revelation Space,Redemption Ark,Absolution Gap
Altered Carbon,Broken Angels,Woken Furies
Accelerando
The Reality Dysfunction,The Neutronium Alchemist,The Naked God
Fallen Dragon
Eyes of the Calculor,Mirrorsun Rising,Voices In the Light,The Miocene Arrow ... ... favorite scifi from the last decade ... I'll kick things off w/a couple:
The Starfish series by Peter Watts
Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan
Gun, with occasional music by Jonathan Lethem
I who have never known men by Jacqueline Harpman
We3 by Grant Mor ... I think it's China Mieville who coined the term "New Weird" for his fiction. Others have been using it. I read Altered Carbon and loved it but found the next two really badly written with not much plot. ... is excellent, though.
City come a walkin' has the atmosphere.
The protagonist in Richard Morgan's fabulous Altered Carbon is actually doing private detecting to go along with the rest, on the SF front.
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