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Space opera is best for breaking those blues. Vernor Vinge, A Fire Upon the Deep will grab you and keep the concepts flying. Then there are the Culture books... I'm not sure where to start, but Excession is a good one that doesn't bog down. If you like the harder stuff, then give Schild's Ladde ... #84 - I'll see if I can track down A Fire Upon the Deep to follow the two books I mentioned above. ... of her books have female protagonists. And your description of her writing style is sexist crap.
As for Vinge, I'd say A Fire Upon the Deep was his best. ... copy last week and look forward to reading it, but I'm passing on the recommendation based on its fame.
I also recommend A Fire Upon the Deep. Great fun and a true "space opera", but in a good way.
... points:
* Scalzi's Old Man's War: because it is a funny, action-packed read and a bit Hienlenesque.
* Vinge's Fire Upon the Deep: because it engages classic themes of space opera and first contact in a distinctive and entertaining way.
If you like either one of them, they have ... 17. A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
Such a good book! There are enough fascinating ideas, interesting characters, and twists'n'turns in this novel to make up 10 ordinary sci-fi books.
256 days, 17 books, 6258 pages
pace = 24.2 books / year or 8923 pages / year
Drat! My pace ... ... Alastair Reynolds - novella; interesting alternate world that turns into something much stranger; good stuff.
17. A Fire upon the Deep, Vernor Vinge - reread; LT group read; some of the ideas in this struck me as less convincing this time around, nor did I think the climax was that ... Dan Simmons's Hyperion series is excellent, if a little bit more cerebral than Reynolds.
You could also try A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge. Space opera at its very finest. As crazybatcow says, Peter F Hamilton is well considered in SF circles, though I personally ... I started A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge last night. It's a re-read, but I don't remember the story and I do remember really liking it. I found a copy used at Powell's so I couldn't resist. ... stand.
Most aliens in SF are just anthropomorphic simulacra in green suits.
The "hive mind" creature in Vernor Vinge's A Fire Upon the Deep was pretty good, but I read that many years ago when I was younger and my cynicism not as high (or is it, my standards were lower?). :)
...regardless of what you thought of the book.
The title A Fire Upon the Deep gives me goose bumps. It suggests events that determine the fate of the world (in fact it turns out to be the entire Milky Way galaxy).
And of course you have to love Great Mambo Chicken And The Transhuman Conditi ... I would say I'm a Vinge fan and I liked A Fire Upon the Deep, but I simply couldn't finish A Deepness in the Sky. The beginning was sooo slooooooow. I wanted to like it, I really did. :(
Random: The title "A Fire Upon the Deep" gives me goose bumps. ... Phlebas before Look to Windward.
Series page:
http://www.librarything.com/series/The+Culture
Also, Vinge's A Fire Upon the Deep and A Deepness in the Sky are both very good, though two books may not constitute a series. They must be read in that order. Reading them in ... ... A Deepness in the Sky. Pretty good so far but don't really see why it's considered to be part of the same series as A Fire Upon the Deep. A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge Other books that I am taking to South America:
*A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
*Seventeen and J by Kenzaburo Oe
*The Dispossessed by Ursula K. Le Guin
And possibly, if I'm feeling really ambitious, I'll also bring:
*After the Quake by Haruki Murakami
*The Y ... ... suggest them as additions to Mount TBR.
>253 I knew there was a reason I loved you....
>258 calwakeel, have you read A Fire Upon the Deep yet? It could very well suit you, based on your response to Xenocide. I found both books tough sledding, but admired each for the breadth of ... Cody, your description of dancing reminds me of the skroderiders in A Fire upon the Deep relaxing on the beach. ... reading narrative fiction. To catch up:
18. The Chosen Vessel, Barbara Baynton
19. The Overcoat, Nicolai Gogol
20. Fire on the Deep, Vernor Vinge
21. The Leopard, Giuseppe Tomasi Di Lampedusa
Long Break
22. Urn Burial, Kerry Greenwood
A country house mystery for Phryne Fish ... ... to read your previous book thread before I ask you about anything. ;) I'm especially keen to know your thoughts on the A Fire Upon the Deep novel... *jumps to your previous thread before she gets carried away* ... Lampedusa
16. The Newest Peruvian Poetry in Translation edited by Luis A. Ramos Garcia and Edgar O'Hara (Volume 1)
17. A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
18. Praying the Family Rosary by Father Thomas P. Looney, CSC
19. The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky
20. Sir Gawain ... My Plans for this Month are
The Lost Fleet Book 4, by Jack Campbell
A fire Upon the Deep, by Vernor Vinge
The Honor of the Queen by David Weber
Riverworld: To Your Scattered Bodies Go by Philip Jose Farmer
Treason by Orson Scott Card
Spin by Robert Charles ... ... out on two of the last three group reads. I only read the first two books of the New Sun, and am still on page 109 of A Fire Upon the Deep, which I myself nominated for the read. So I forced my way through this. I agree, not a novel, no characters or graceful prose. A history, a ponderous ... ... with Rama has a) almost no plot, b) certainly no resolution, and c) not aged gracefully.
The recent group read of A Fire Upon the Deep from 1992 has shown that it hasn't aged well. The use of USENET as a central idea just seems quaint and silly now... and will appear completely foreign ... ... would disagree with that. Of course that could also lead to them re-evaluating modern novels - for example if one read A Fire Upon The Deep before Brainwave for example.
As for short stories there are so many available for free on the web I would probably pass over a list of stories (wi ... ... I'm having trouble coming up with specific examples off the top of my head. I know that in the recent Group Read of A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge, the general feeling was that it certainly would have benefited from editing out 100 or so pages. ... new novella, The Six Directions of Space, which wasn't bad but not up to his usual standard. Then the sf group read, A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge, which was a much better book when I originally read it back in the early 1990s. Fancied something short and light after that, so CS Lew ... And speaking of fantasy... I finished my group read book, A Fire Upon The Deep, and decided to try something a little lighter - both reading and weight... The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe. So far it is very... patronising. How about Vernor Vinge. We have (although some stragglers may still be) reading A Fire Upon The Deep as one of the group reads and I think it should fit in well with what you want. His other books are also really good reads.
Some Paul McAuley would fit in - The Quiet War and The Se ... For those who have read the prequel, A Deepness in the Sky, does the person who's memories become Pham's in Fire appear in the prequel as part of the Qeng Ho? Or is this before his time?
#93. Is A Fire Upon the Deep pure SF, or does it lean toward Fantasy like G.R.R. Martin (whom I love)?
#94. Just so you'll know, BrainFlakes is my middle name--I had dandruff as an infant and a nurse made a mis-diagnosis . . . ... book could also be listed under the group reads category as I read it for the Group Reads -- SciFi Group. I thought that A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge was a terrific book! It has a sweeping story and won the Hugo award. I especially enjoyed the world of the tines -- the wolf pack ... 17. A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge. This is the book that I read for the Group Reads -- SciFi Group. I have been trying to read more scifi lately, as my girls both love it. I thought that this was a terrific story with broad scope. It was pretty long (613 pages), but I think that is ... 17. A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge.
I don't usually read a lot of scifi, but my girls love it, so I am reading more of it these days. I read this book for the Group Reads -- SciFi Group. This is a terrific story with broad scope. I especially enjoyed the look at the world of the Tines, ... Digging into Vernor Vinge's A Fire Upon the Deep today. At my recent rate, this should keep me occupied for a bit. ... I think that poetry must be the hardest thing to translate.
I am determined to finish both The Brothers Karamazov and A Fire Upon the Deep this month. :)
--BJ ... it here. Now started A Fire Upon the Deep for the Group Read. 7 - A Fire Upon the Deep -- scifi
Hi, Karen,
What are you reading now? I am reading a scifi book called A Fire Upon the Deep and also The Brothers Karamazov. They are both rather long, so I am not reading too fast. Have a great weekend!
--BJ Next, Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge. This is Vernor Vinge's third Hugo for best novel, after A Fire Upon the Deep and A Deepness in the Sky. I thought the first two were fantastic. I like this one as well, but it is perhaps not quite as interesting to me personally because it is not ... ... ther
Bend Sinister by Vladimir Nabokov
We by Yevgeny Zamyatin
Gentlemen of the Road by Michael Chabon
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
Am currently reading:
The Leopard by di Lampedusa
Waking Up Screaming by H. P. Lovecraft an anthology of short stories. I would like to nominate:
Neuromancer.
I am still at the beginning of A Fire Upon the Deep.
--BJ ... will come on again soon.
The latest book looks good, too. I am reading a book for the Group Reads -- SciFi group called A Fire upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge. I am just at the beginning of the book, but it is pretty good so far. Starts off with a bang.
Have a great weekend! :)
--BJ I've not actually started A Fire Upon the Deep yet, although I plan to do so next week. And it'll probably take me about a week to finish. But I've no problem with kicking off the selection for the next book now. I wonder, though, if three choices is going to give us enough books common across ... ... geeky questions about aFUtD since I read it back in the 1990s; maybe your recent reading can help.
SPOILER WARNING for A Fire Upon the Deep:
1) Pham Nuwen learns at the end that he really did live the life he remembers, 30,000 or so years earlier. Was that ever much in doubt, during the ... I'm planning to tackle A Fire Upon the Deep for the group read, but at the moment I'm halfway through Gwyneth Jones' Spirit: or the Princess of Bois Dormant. I might write about the Vinge afterwards, but no promises. I will definitely write about the Jones. I'm a Vinge fan--I liked both FIRE UPON THE DEEP and A DEEPNESS IN THE SKY. RAINBOW'S END was pretty good but not in their league (in this man's view).
I would give FIRE and DEEPNESS both a rating between ***1/2 and **** (out of a possible perfect 5-star designation, a feat no SF book I'v ... finished a reread of vernor vinge's fire upon the deep for the group SF read.
FUtD IS a good, classic large scale SF space opera - too long as there was too much down time as the various groups sought to create alliances to kill all earthlings and their friends; save human lovers everywhere, ... Book 28
Okay, Susan, Miss Seldon's Suitors arrived yesterday, and I set aside A Fire Upon the Deep and dove in. I found it entertaining and a good representative of a light romance. However, it wasn't Heyer. (But then, who is?)
Here are my caveats. The characters are drawn with broad ... >220, I thought Yggdrasil was the name of the bass guitar Jack Casady played.
I just finished reading A Fire upon the Deep for the SF group read and as I got to near the end, I had an aha moment, probably one most of you have had long ago, but in any case it dawned on me the book was action ... ... I have a headache.
The problem is whenever I finish a Phillip K. Dick book I think about them to much.
Now back to A Fire upon the Deep. ... these authors a great deal.
BTW, Territory just came out in paperback so I picked it up. It'll go in the queue after The Fire Upon the Deep.
ETA correct touchstone for Territory. ... Hetta, abused psychologically by her father, finds solace and salvation in dreams of a desert realm.
On to a reread of a fire upon the deep - i'm liking it once again, so far. ... stories, but the best are very moving. I'd imagine the book was conceived as as YA collection.
Now on to rereading a fire upon the deep. Finally starting A Fire upon The Deep by Vernor Vinge for the group read. ... I've never read her before and I am enjoying the hell out of reading her. I intend, after I finish The Troll Garden, A Fire upon the Deep, and The Leopard, to read The Song of the Lark.
So, if you want to talk about Cather, why don't you, Urania, meet us in rojse in Group Reads - Sci-Fi : "A Fire Upon the Deep" Group Discussion (Feb 12, 2009, 7:28pm) Post your thoughts and opinions on the book selected for the fourth group discussion, A Fire Upon the Deep, by Vernor Vinge.
... their own right. Although I haven't read them recently, I read them numerous times in the past.
Getting ready to start A Fire Upon the Deep for the group read. ... had the non-stop feel of writing because it's five a.m. and my schedule says to write at this time.
OTOH, I'm reading A Fire upon the Deep and enjoying the hell out of it. Vinge is obviously engaged with the characters, stories, world building and so forth that make for a fun and ... I just started A Fire upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge, having a hard time wrapping my mind around the "aliens", but I am only on chapter 6. ... are not carry friendly either. I think that my next carry friendly book will be Get Shorty, another funny one. Or maybe A Fire Upon the Deep. I am not sure.
Y'all have a great weekend!
--BJ Started reading A Fire upon the Deep for the current SF group read. So far it's a good read. It sets itself up for a lot of good discussion if it is successful in what I hope Vinge is shooting for.
I've had to set Natty Bumppo aside for now. I don't read more than one book at a time. If I' ... Ian, I love Graham Greene.
It looks like February reading is pretty much set.
For the SF Group read - A Fire upon the Deep - Vernor Vinge
For the Literature Group Read it hasn't been settled yet, but the leader seems to be The Leopard - Lampedusa. I'm pulling for Heart of Darkn ... Poll finished.
31.6% Last and First Men, Olaf Stapledon
36.8% A Fire Upon the Deep, Vernor Vinge
5.3% White Queen, Gwyneth Jones
15.8% The Player of Games, Iain M Banks
10.5% Learning the World, Ken MacLeod
Looks like Vinge won. The poll is turning into a two-horse race. 17 votes so far. A Fire Upon the Deep is a length ahead of Last and First Men, but there's still time for it to change... Great. First through the door gets it. I'll set up a poll for:-
White Queen, Gwyneth Jones
A Fire Upon the Deep, Vernor Vinge
Learning the World, Ken MacLeod
The Player of Games, Iain M Banks
Last and First Men, Olaf Stapledon ... 8 books with 2 votes, and 4 books with a single vote. For the record:
3 votes
White Queen, Gwyneth Jones
A Fire Upon the Deep, Vernor Vinge
Learning the World, Ken MacLeod
The Player of Games, Iain M Banks
2 votes
Last and First Men, Olaf Stapledon
Roadside ... ... so far...
The Player of Games, Iain M. Banks
White Queen, Gwyneth Jones
Last and First Men, Olaf Stapledon
A Fire Upon the Deep, Vernor Vinge
Hello Summer, Goodbye, Michael G Coney
Roadside Picnic, Boris & Arkady Strugatsky ... The Player of Games - Iain M. Banks
(2) White Queen - Gwyneth Jones
(2) Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
(2) A fire upon the Deep - Vernor Vinge
I seconded Stapledon; can't pass up the opportunity to do a group read for my favourite author and one of my favourite books.
We'll ... ...
Alchemy of stone - Ekaterina Sedia
Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
Roadside Picnic - Boris & Arkady Strugatsky
A fire upon the Deep - Vernor Vinge
The War of the Worlds - H. G. Wells
Would like to know if we should postpone secondings until everyone has had a chance to ... I'll second Learning the World, The Player of Games, Camp Concentration, and A Fire Upon the Deep. ...
Alchemy of stone - Ekaterina Sedia
Last and First Men - Olaf Stapledon
Roadside Picnic - Boris & Arkady Strugatsky
A fire upon the Deep - Vernor Vinge
The War of the Worlds - H. G. Wells
I suggest that we do secondings and the like on the 26th (so we know what the entire list of ... A fire upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge This sounds like a fun idea. I'm looking forward to challenging myself to spend more reading the books in my backlog and less time cataloging them on LibraryThing.
I've left some open slots and I'll certainly change around some of the books, but for now, here are my categories
1. Anthologies
... Just to make it official, the book that received the most votes is Farthing with 38% of the vote, followed by A Fire Upon the Deep, with 31% of the vote. ... 60s and 70s, and read nearly everything in the field that was book length. I have three more on my shelves TBR, Cyteen, A Fire Upon the Deep, and The Diamond Age. Most of the ones I've read are still on my book shelves, although the The Gods Themselves and the Pohl seem to have wandered ... IV. SFF/Speculative Fiction
1. The Magic Lands by Mark Hockley.
2. A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge.
3. Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card.
4. Beggars in Spain by Nancy Kress.
5. Over Sea, Under Stone by Susan Cooper.
6. The Dark is Rising by Susan Cooper.
7. Greenwitch ... I'm going to read A Fire Upon the Deep sometime next year, so I'd be happy if it was selected. I'll be interested in the final vote to see what comes up. ...
(2) Life: A Novel - Gwyneth Jones
(2) Gather, Darkness - Fritz Leiber
(2) Saturn's Children - Charles Stross
(2) A Fire Upon the Deep - Vernor Vinge
(3) Farthing - Jo Walton ...
(2) Life: A Novel - Gwyneth Jones
(2) Gather, Darkness - Fritz Leiber
(2) Saturn's Children - Charles Stross
(2) A Fire Upon the Deep - Vernor Vinge
(3) Farthing - Jo Walton ... (my sentimental favorite) by Roger Zelazny, and The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein. I also think A Fire Upon the Deep and A Deepness in the Sky
by Vernor Vinge are some of the best SF ever written. ... Ness
Hominids - Robert J. Sawyer
(2) Gather, Darkness - Fritz Leiber
(2) Saturn's Children - Charles Stross
(2) A Fire Upon the Deep - Vernor Vinge
(3) Farthing - Jo Walton
Keep the nominations and the secondments rolling in. ... ta
The Knife of Never Letting Go - Patrick Ness
Hominids - Robert J. Sawyer
Saturn's Children - Charles Stross
(2) A Fire Upon the Deep - Vernor Vinge
(3) Farthing - Jo Walton
As for the poll, we would want to wait until we could narrow the field down to five books (since only two ... 8. YA and speculative fiction
1. Tomorrow when the war began, John Marsden
2. Hyperion, Dan Simmons
3. A Fire on the Deep, Vernor Vinge
4. To Say Nothing of the Dog, Connie Willis (02/02/09)
5. Red Spikes, Margo Lanagan
6. The Chrysalids, John Wyndham ... od
The Knife of Never Letting Go - Patrick Ness
Hominids - Robert J. Sawyer
Saturn's Children - Charles Stross
(2) A Fire Upon the Deep - Vernor Vinge
(3) Farthing - Jo Walton
The third vote for Farthing is mine, by the way - I would never look at it otherwise. umm.i'll third Farthing; A Fire Upon the Deep is a very fine book..but i've read it which puts it off my voting list. ... the books in the poll. So if you see a book you would like to read that has already been suggested, second it.
I second A Fire Upon the Deep. ... acLeod
The Knife of Never Letting Go - Patrick Ness
Hominids - Robert J. Sawyer
Saturn's Children - Charles Stross
A Fire Upon the Deep - Vernor Vinge
Farthing - Jo Walton
Keep the suggestions rolling in - the more there are, the better chance there is we'll find something we all ... ... which I remember liking, but I just have not seen her work in bookstores here in the States!
I'm still nominating A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge--it is still sitting there in my TBR pile.
I'm not nominating but commenting--found a copy of Anathem on my local library new ... ... not 18 as it says. Which is one more than CD1am found. And both of mine show up, so scratch one of those, making it 4 for Fire on the Deep--San Diego, Buffalo, Texas and Canberra. Both votes from England were for Farthing, as was that of the person on Long Island. The lone vote for Hominids ... ... by Ian McEwan
Hugo Awards
1.Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge
2.Spin by Robert Charles Wilson
3.A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
4.Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer
5.American Gods by Neil Gaiman
6.A Deepness in the Sky by Vernor Vinge
7.To Say Nothi ... The Tines in Vernor Vinge's A fire upon the deep. Probably wouldn't want to hang with them...but they are a fascinating creation. ... When I was a teenager I was reading and enjoying Silverberg that doesn't make his books YA similarly Snow Crash and A Fire Upon The Deep are in no way YA. If you widen the net out that far the search becomes meaningless as you will be including so much of the SF field (and nearly all ... ... a great sounding group of books! I've only read The Day of the Triffids, but that was at least 30 years ago. I have both A Fire Upon the Deep and Snow Crash in my TBR pile, and downloaded Farthing when it was available this summer electronically. And I've never read any Robert J. Sawyer, ... ... Stephenson
Off Armageddon Reef by David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson (2)
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (3)
The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham (3)
Farthing by Jo Walton (4)
... Stephenson
Off Armageddon Road by David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson (2)
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (3)
The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham (3)
Farthing by Jo Walton (4)
As always, many worthwhile reads on the list ... I'm for A Fire Upon the Deep. Sorry, I just can't resist a good, thick SF novel. ... David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer -- (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson -- (2)
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (2)
Black Man aka Thirteen by Richard Morgan -- (2)
Cities in Flight by James Blish
The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham (2) ... Good point.
The following are all over 500 pages - The Wreck Of The River Of Stars, Anathem, Black Man, and A Fire Upon The Deep.
Anathem is only in hardcover which may be a mark against it.
The Night Sessions is only in hardcover at the moment. There is no US edition yet as far ... ... David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer -- (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson -- (2)
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (2)
Black Man aka Thirteen by Richard Morgan -- (2)
This will be my last update (see explantion in note# 22), so someone else ... ... David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer -- (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson -- (2)
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
Black Man aka Thirteen by Richard Morgan -- (2)
Geneg, how long are nominations open this time?
... Reef by David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
... also defn. be up for rereading/discussing one of V.Vinge's later space operas as was mooted in the first round. Probably A Fire upon the Deep as it precedes A deepness in the sky.
I love Snow Crash, would happily reread it, again! But i don't know if most folks would rather read ... ... also defn. be up for rereading/discussing one of V.Vinge's later space operas as was mooted in the first round. Probably A Fire upon the Deep as it precedes A deepness in the sky. ... I've read and own 3 of his books, The Last Colony is still on my TBR pile. I have both A Deepness in the Sky and A Fire Upon the Deep in my TBR pile (not in my catalog) and would welcome a push to move one of them up. I suspect we will end up nominating a new group, and then voting on ... ...
Also, if any of you have recommendations for harder sci-fi (lots of science! Yay!), those would be good as well. I love A Fire Upon the Deep and A Deepness in the Sky, but I don't know if they are considered hard sci-fi or not.
Thanks in advance for your help! ...
20. Stranger in a Strange Land, Robert Heinlein
21. The Harper Hall trilogy (Dragonsinger, etc.), Anne McCaffrey
22. A Fire Upon the Deep, Vernor Vinge
23. Frek and the Elixer, Rudy Rucker
24. The Martian Chronicles, Ray Bradbury
25. The Dancers at the End of Time books, Michael Moo ... ... "hippy musician"????? on her bringing that book to the house; parents (myself included) can be weird....). Vernor Vinge's Fire upon the Deep is great fun if a kid has the patience to just handle a bit of length..I don't think there's anything objectionable and a LOT of neat world/society ... When Three Men in a Boat reached The Island of the Day Before After Dark, they saw Sweet Starfire reflected likeA Fire Upon the Deep. On the Beach they found The Girl with the Pearl Earring: a Gift From the Sea. As they dined upon Cod under The Mango Tree, she asked,"Are you Hap ... Polls close in two hours. The Book of the New Sun leads with A Fire Upon the Deep in second place. ... definition of essential. This list was generated from one possible definition.}
A Deepness in the Sky by Vernor Vinge
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
Air by Geoff Ryman
American Gods by Neil Gaiman
Ash: A Secret History by Mary Gentle
Aztec Century by Christopher Evans
B ... ... – Robert Merle
17) The Sheep Look Up – John Brunner
18) The Warlord of the Air – Michael Moorcock
19) A Fire Upon the Deep – Vernor Vinge
20) Mainspring – Jay Lake
21) Nine Princes in Amber – Roger Zelazny
22) Islandia – Austin Tappan Wright
23) ... ... trilogy (1982 - 1985)
C.J. Cherryh - Cyteen (1988)
Iain M. Banks - Use Of Weapons (1990)
Vernor Vinge - A Fire Upon The Deep (1992)
Kim Stanley Robinson - Mars Trilogy (1992 - 1996)
Paul McAuley - Fairyland (1995)
Tim Powers - Declare (2001)
... The Fortress of Solitude, Jonathan Lethem
* Evolution, Stephen Baxter
* Engine Summer, John Crowley
* A Fire upon the Deep, Vernor Vinge
... read Wolfe w/ an improved POV and attitude and have more books to go on and add to my TBR virtual and actual pile.
A Fire Upon the Deep is excellent and holds up well throughout its universe and species building length ... And Farthing would be more like the mystery genre I've been reading lately. But I am really intrigued by the world of A Fire Upon the Deep, at least based on the reviews and descriptions.
You probably made a good point regarding some of the length being due to world building.
... 4 books, Vinge's tome counts for about two, and Simmons book is no slouch for page count either:
Hyperion - 482 pages
A Fire Upon the Deep - 613 pages
The Book of the New Sun 260 + 250 + 298 + 313 = 1121 pages
As a side note observation - I can always guage pretty accurately the age ... ... would be that those who voted for the three lowest vote getters might agree with me and thus a runoff might push Vinge's A Fire Upon the Deep into top place.
So how about a runoff???
Oh, okay. Sorry I jumped the gun. I'd like to second the nomination of A Fire Upon the Deep. I'm not sure my previous upthread comment was counted a second, so I'll second (again?) Hyperion. I'll also second Old Man's War since it'd be nice to read a Scalzi, what an interesting guy! ...
Hominids (my own suggestion)
Consider Phlebas
The Shadow of the Torturer
In the Garden of Iden
Old Man's War
A Fire Upon the Deep
Do we need 3 stages for this really? Suggestions, nominations, then voting? I mean, if somebody comes up with a new suggestion at this point and ... My official votes:
A fire upon the deep by Vernor Vinge
Farthing by Jo Walton My official votes:
Farthing by Jo Walton
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge ... 2001. I downloaded Farthing and would be open to reading it. My TBR pile has Vernor Vinge's A Deepness in the Sky and A Fire Upon the Deep, Marianne de Pierres' Nylon Angel and Code Noir, Capacity by Tony Ballantine, and Iron Sunrise by Charles Stross. among others. ... right, but you have to sift all the misinformation first. Didn't Vernor Vinge speak of 'The Net of a Thousand Lies' in A fire upon the deep? ... for the first time in many years, I have reread some books.
Roger Zelazny's Lord of Light, Vernor Vinge's A Fire Upon the Deep, Neal Stephenson's Snowcrash, Tim Powers' Last Call, William Gibson's Neuromancer, and Dan Simmons' Carrion Comfort were still ... ...
(I was actually surprised that I'd given A Deepness in the Sky 4.5 stars, but that's a special case: I could only give A Fire upon the Deep 5 stars.) #62: A top ten list is beyond my powers. But to get into modern hard SF, I'd start with Diaspora, A fire upon the deep, Excession, and Manifold: Space. Then more books by the same authors if you like those :)
30 years, you say? Then also Eon if you missed it. It has aged well.
Alter ... I finished A Fire upon the Deep. I finished The Spheres of Heaven. I got more books from the sale. I'm reading In a child's name now. ... I recall for Red Mars which is a substantial tome by itself. Kress, Tepper, and Clarke are all respectable. Vernor Vinge's Fire Upon The Deep is also important if you want to make sure you read current classics of science fiction.
... titles in your list.
I don't care what anyone says, I enjoyed The Da Vinci code and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
a fire upon the deep is great stuff.
Oh, too much there to go through one by one! I put A Fire upon the Deep aside for awhile. The plot is a good one, but it crawls. I'm about halfway through Golden Witchbreed and I think I'll start The Spheres of Heaven next. Oh dear, another title that the system here won't recognize. ... booksale in Woodstock(NB) today and got two boxes of books. I read Buried Deep by Rusch already and am now reading A Fire upon the Deep. I should be busy for a good while, since I got nearly 70 books, about half of which should be readable. ... don't hold up well, especially for someone concerned with characterization.
Some of my favorite books, like Hyperion, A Fire Upon The Deep, etc., really assume more of a background in the genre than a newcomer would have, and I couldn't recommend them to a newcomer.
... they 'match' my taste). Thus I"ve read Islands by Marta Randall, Stations of the Tide by Michael Swanwick, A Fire Upon the Deep and Deepness In the Sky by Vernor Vinge - and other lovely stories. ... book recommendations. Need to do some reading where the death of civilization is serious as opposed to what it was like in A Fire Upon the Deep that I just finished. Death of civilizations was a normal part of the natural order in that. >69 Great books! I just reread A Fire Upon the Deep, too. It's really wonderful.
I finished Kage Baker's Rude Mechanicals and am almost finished with S. M. Stirling's Iron, Ice, and Gold, a book of his short fiction. I have Scott Lynch's Red Seas to work on next. After ... ... are
Iain Banks Excession
Ian McDonald Brasyl
re-read - Patricia Anthony Cradle of Splendor
re-read - Vernor Vinge A Fire upon the Deep.
The first two are new keepers (ie they don't go to book crossing or library sales) and the other 2 are old favorites. I'd had Excession around for ... The Tines in Vinge's A Fire upon the Deep are pack minds, so each consists of a small group of biological individuals who may be male or female. They're very well portrayed, I thought. ... web very easily.
There are a couple of facts -
a) Snow Crash was up against some tough competition - Doomsday Book, A Fire Upon The Deep, Red Mars to name but three in the same year.
b) Views on what makes a great book change. Simple as that. This is true in the mainstream world ... #16
Well most people feel it is weaker than his previous two books - A Deepness In The Sky and A Fire Upon The Deep. So you could well be in for a treat. Vernor Vinge's A fire upon the deep?
It's a decade since I read it but I recall human children linking with/ communicating with aliens. These aliens had a group or packmind,... and kind of dog-like aliens at that.
edit sigh, touchstones ... ... (23 July 07)
Tepper: The Marianne Trilogy (4 July 07)
Verne: Paris in the Twentieth Century (12 July 07)
Vinge: A Fire Upon the Deep (1 July 07)
Willis: To Say Nothing of the Dog (5 July 07)
... books:
Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson
Downbelow Station by C.J. Cherryh
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
I switch from one to the other when I can't read any more pages from one. I need to finish one before starting another, oh well.= ... ... been able to discerne sf from fantasy in a pinch is to look at the way technology/science is implemented. For instance A Fire Upon The Deep could very well be described as fantasy, but the implementation of technology is incredibly relevant to the story line so I call it sf. To juxtapose ... ... Sky from A Different Bookstore, but I told myself to be a "good boy" and not spend for it when I still haven't read his A Fire Upon the Deep. Do I sound like I'm convincing myself?
Anyway, I'm rather curious if anyone has read those titles above and also the following: Natural History ... As a novice, I can primarily say - thank you for starting with a list! I enjoyed A Fire Upon the Deep a great deal, and have been tempted to buy Black Wind and even Harvest of Stars, based on your reviews; but I'm afraid the description of Henry Martyn captivated me. A libertarian Rafael ... ...
1. Atlas Shrugged
2. Harvest of Stars
3. Alongside Night
4. Black Wind
5. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
6. A Fire Upon the Deep
7. Henry Martyn
8. The Cassini Division
9. The Stars My Destination
10. Moon of Ice I, too, have yet to get to many of my history shelves, which contain most of my primary sources. One assumes that The Demolished Man, etc, is so visible because our historical interests are so varied- therefore, the non-historical books become the most commonly shared. As for why The Demolished M ...
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