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... Stephenson
Off Armageddon Reef by David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson (2)
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (3)
The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham (3)
Farthing by Jo Walton (4)
... Stephenson
Off Armageddon Road by David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson (2)
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (3)
The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham (3)
Farthing by Jo Walton (4)
As always, many worthwhile reads on the list ... I'm for A Fire Upon the Deep. Sorry, I just can't resist a good, thick SF novel. ... David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer -- (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson -- (2)
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (2)
Black Man aka Thirteen by Richard Morgan -- (2)
Cities in Flight by James Blish
The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham (2) ... Good point.
The following are all over 500 pages - The Wreck Of The River Of Stars, Anathem, Black Man, and A Fire Upon The Deep.
Anathem is only in hardcover which may be a mark against it.
The Night Sessions is only in hardcover at the moment. There is no US edition yet as far ... ... David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer -- (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson -- (2)
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (2)
Black Man aka Thirteen by Richard Morgan -- (2)
This will be my last update (see explantion in note# 22), so someone else ... ... David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer -- (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson -- (2)
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
Black Man aka Thirteen by Richard Morgan -- (2)
Geneg, how long are nominations open this time?
... Reef by David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
... also defn. be up for rereading/discussing one of V.Vinge's later space operas as was mooted in the first round. Probably A Fire upon the Deep as it precedes A deepness in the sky.
I love Snow Crash, would happily reread it, again! But i don't know if most folks would rather read ... ... also defn. be up for rereading/discussing one of V.Vinge's later space operas as was mooted in the first round. Probably A Fire upon the Deep as it precedes A deepness in the sky. ... I've read and own 3 of his books, The Last Colony is still on my TBR pile. I have both A Deepness in the Sky and A Fire Upon the Deep in my TBR pile (not in my catalog) and would welcome a push to move one of them up. I suspect we will end up nominating a new group, and then voting on ... ...
Also, if any of you have recommendations for harder sci-fi (lots of science! Yay!), those would be good as well. I love A Fire Upon the Deep and A Deepness in the Sky, but I don't know if they are considered hard sci-fi or not.
Thanks in advance for your help! ...
20. Stranger in a Strange Land, Robert Heinlein
21. The Harper Hall trilogy (Dragonsinger, etc.), Anne McCaffrey
22. A Fire Upon the Deep, Vernor Vinge
23. Frek and the Elixer, Rudy Rucker
24. The Martian Chronicles, Ray Bradbury
25. The Dancers at the End of Time books, Michael Moo ... ... "hippy musician"????? on her bringing that book to the house; parents (myself included) can be weird....). Vernor Vinge's Fire upon the Deep is great fun if a kid has the patience to just handle a bit of length..I don't think there's anything objectionable and a LOT of neat world/society ... When Three Men in a Boat reached The Island of the Day Before After Dark, they saw Sweet Starfire reflected likeA Fire Upon the Deep. On the Beach they found The Girl with the Pearl Earring: a Gift From the Sea. As they dined upon Cod under The Mango Tree, she asked,"Are you Hap ... Polls close in two hours. The Book of the New Sun leads with A Fire Upon the Deep in second place. ... definition of essential. This list was generated from one possible definition.}
A Deepness in the Sky by Vernor Vinge
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
Air by Geoff Ryman
American Gods by Neil Gaiman
Ash: A Secret History by Mary Gentle
Aztec Century by Christopher Evans
B ... ... – Robert Merle
17) The Sheep Look Up – John Brunner
18) The Warlord of the Air – Michael Moorcock
19) A Fire Upon the Deep – Vernor Vinge
20) Mainspring – Jay Lake
21) Nine Princes in Amber – Roger Zelazny
22) Islandia – Austin Tappan Wright
23) ... ... trilogy (1982 - 1985)
C.J. Cherryh - Cyteen (1988)
Iain M. Banks - Use Of Weapons (1990)
Vernor Vinge - A Fire Upon The Deep (1992)
Kim Stanley Robinson - Mars Trilogy (1992 - 1996)
Paul McAuley - Fairyland (1995)
Tim Powers - Declare (2001)
... The Fortress of Solitude, Jonathan Lethem
* Evolution, Stephen Baxter
* Engine Summer, John Crowley
* A Fire upon the Deep, Vernor Vinge
... read Wolfe w/ an improved POV and attitude and have more books to go on and add to my TBR virtual and actual pile.
A Fire Upon the Deep is excellent and holds up well throughout its universe and species building length ... And Farthing would be more like the mystery genre I've been reading lately. But I am really intrigued by the world of A Fire Upon the Deep, at least based on the reviews and descriptions.
You probably made a good point regarding some of the length being due to world building.
... 4 books, Vinge's tome counts for about two, and Simmons book is no slouch for page count either:
Hyperion - 482 pages
A Fire Upon the Deep - 613 pages
The Book of the New Sun 260 + 250 + 298 + 313 = 1121 pages
As a side note observation - I can always guage pretty accurately the age ... ... would be that those who voted for the three lowest vote getters might agree with me and thus a runoff might push Vinge's A Fire Upon the Deep into top place.
So how about a runoff???
Oh, okay. Sorry I jumped the gun. I'd like to second the nomination of A Fire Upon the Deep. I'm not sure my previous upthread comment was counted a second, so I'll second (again?) Hyperion. I'll also second Old Man's War since it'd be nice to read a Scalzi, what an interesting guy! ...
Hominids (my own suggestion)
Consider Phlebas
The Shadow of the Torturer
In the Garden of Iden
Old Man's War
A Fire Upon the Deep
Do we need 3 stages for this really? Suggestions, nominations, then voting? I mean, if somebody comes up with a new suggestion at this point and ... My official votes:
A fire upon the deep by Vernor Vinge
Farthing by Jo Walton My official votes:
Farthing by Jo Walton
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge ... 2001. I downloaded Farthing and would be open to reading it. My TBR pile has Vernor Vinge's A Deepness in the Sky and A Fire Upon the Deep, Marianne de Pierres' Nylon Angel and Code Noir, Capacity by Tony Ballantine, and Iron Sunrise by Charles Stross. among others. ... right, but you have to sift all the misinformation first. Didn't Vernor Vinge speak of 'The Net of a Thousand Lies' in A fire upon the deep? ... for the first time in many years, I have reread some books.
Roger Zelazny's Lord of Light, Vernor Vinge's A Fire Upon the Deep, Neal Stephenson's Snowcrash, Tim Powers' Last Call, William Gibson's Neuromancer, and Dan Simmons' Carrion Comfort were still ... ...
(I was actually surprised that I'd given A Deepness in the Sky 4.5 stars, but that's a special case: I could only give A Fire upon the Deep 5 stars.) #62: A top ten list is beyond my powers. But to get into modern hard SF, I'd start with Diaspora, A fire upon the deep, Excession, and Manifold: Space. Then more books by the same authors if you like those :)
30 years, you say? Then also Eon if you missed it. It has aged well.
Alter ... I finished A Fire upon the Deep. I finished The Spheres of Heaven. I got more books from the sale. I'm reading In a child's name now. ... I recall for Red Mars which is a substantial tome by itself. Kress, Tepper, and Clarke are all respectable. Vernor Vinge's Fire Upon The Deep is also important if you want to make sure you read current classics of science fiction.
... titles in your list.
I don't care what anyone says, I enjoyed The Da Vinci code and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
a fire upon the deep is great stuff.
Oh, too much there to go through one by one! I put A Fire upon the Deep aside for awhile. The plot is a good one, but it crawls. I'm about halfway through Golden Witchbreed and I think I'll start The Spheres of Heaven next. Oh dear, another title that the system here won't recognize. ... booksale in Woodstock(NB) today and got two boxes of books. I read Buried Deep by Rusch already and am now reading A Fire upon the Deep. I should be busy for a good while, since I got nearly 70 books, about half of which should be readable. ... don't hold up well, especially for someone concerned with characterization.
Some of my favorite books, like Hyperion, A Fire Upon The Deep, etc., really assume more of a background in the genre than a newcomer would have, and I couldn't recommend them to a newcomer.
... they 'match' my taste). Thus I"ve read Islands by Marta Randall, Stations of the Tide by Michael Swanwick, A Fire Upon the Deep and Deepness In the Sky by Vernor Vinge - and other lovely stories. ... book recommendations. Need to do some reading where the death of civilization is serious as opposed to what it was like in A Fire Upon the Deep that I just finished. Death of civilizations was a normal part of the natural order in that. >69 Great books! I just reread A Fire Upon the Deep, too. It's really wonderful.
I finished Kage Baker's Rude Mechanicals and am almost finished with S. M. Stirling's Iron, Ice, and Gold, a book of his short fiction. I have Scott Lynch's Red Seas to work on next. After ... ... are
Iain Banks Excession
Ian McDonald Brasyl
re-read - Patricia Anthony Cradle of Splendor
re-read - Vernor Vinge A Fire upon the Deep.
The first two are new keepers (ie they don't go to book crossing or library sales) and the other 2 are old favorites. I'd had Excession around for ... The Tines in Vinge's A Fire upon the Deep are pack minds, so each consists of a small group of biological individuals who may be male or female. They're very well portrayed, I thought. ... web very easily.
There are a couple of facts -
a) Snow Crash was up against some tough competition - Doomsday Book, A Fire Upon The Deep, Red Mars to name but three in the same year.
b) Views on what makes a great book change. Simple as that. This is true in the mainstream world ... #16
Well most people feel it is weaker than his previous two books - A Deepness In The Sky and A Fire Upon The Deep. So you could well be in for a treat. Vernor Vinge's A fire upon the deep?
It's a decade since I read it but I recall human children linking with/ communicating with aliens. These aliens had a group or packmind,... and kind of dog-like aliens at that.
edit sigh, touchstones ... ... (23 July 07)
Tepper: The Marianne Trilogy (4 July 07)
Verne: Paris in the Twentieth Century (12 July 07)
Vinge: A Fire Upon the Deep (1 July 07)
Willis: To Say Nothing of the Dog (5 July 07)
... books:
Red Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson
Downbelow Station by C.J. Cherryh
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
I switch from one to the other when I can't read any more pages from one. I need to finish one before starting another, oh well.= ... ... been able to discerne sf from fantasy in a pinch is to look at the way technology/science is implemented. For instance A Fire Upon The Deep could very well be described as fantasy, but the implementation of technology is incredibly relevant to the story line so I call it sf. To juxtapose ... ... Sky from A Different Bookstore, but I told myself to be a "good boy" and not spend for it when I still haven't read his A Fire Upon the Deep. Do I sound like I'm convincing myself?
Anyway, I'm rather curious if anyone has read those titles above and also the following: Natural History ... As a novice, I can primarily say - thank you for starting with a list! I enjoyed A Fire Upon the Deep a great deal, and have been tempted to buy Black Wind and even Harvest of Stars, based on your reviews; but I'm afraid the description of Henry Martyn captivated me. A libertarian Rafael ... ...
1. Atlas Shrugged
2. Harvest of Stars
3. Alongside Night
4. Black Wind
5. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
6. A Fire Upon the Deep
7. Henry Martyn
8. The Cassini Division
9. The Stars My Destination
10. Moon of Ice I, too, have yet to get to many of my history shelves, which contain most of my primary sources. One assumes that The Demolished Man, etc, is so visible because our historical interests are so varied- therefore, the non-historical books become the most commonly shared. As for why The Demolished M ...
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