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Consider Phlebas (Culture) by Iain M. Banks
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Consider Phlebas (Culture) (original 1987; edition 2008)

by Iain M. Banks

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Title:Consider Phlebas (Culture)
Authors:Iain M. Banks
Info:Orbit (2008), Paperback, 544 pages
Collections:Read in 2012
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Consider Phlebas by Iain M. Banks (1987)

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    Chasm City by Alastair Reynolds (voodoochilli)
    voodoochilli: As good as the Revelation space series, so if you want more check out Banks Culture novels.
  2. 40
    The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester (EatSleepChuck)
  3. 30
    Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds (nik.o)
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    The Waste Land and Other Poems by T. S. Eliot (sturlington)
    sturlington: To understand the title allusion.
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    The Wizards and the Warriors by Hugh Cook (themulhern)
    themulhern: A grim quest where the outcome hinges on the precise timing and nature of events. Much complication and a deal of ambiguity.
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    Rocannon's World by Ursula K. Le Guin (themulhern)
    themulhern: Two vast wars fought between vastly different opponents. A small event in that war, and a protagonist who loses much in his struggle. Nothing else about these novels is terribly similar, but the contrasts are so interesting.
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    Piece of Cake by Derek Robinson (themulhern)
    themulhern: A war, questions why the war is being fought, and horrible messes resulting from poor or incomplete information.
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The theme of the book is that war is pointless. The book was similarly so. ( )
  oswallt | Nov 25, 2016 |
This one did not appeal to my particular tastes. The prose did not impress me. The characters were almost universally unlikeable to the point of not caring much what happened to them. The story drags with prolonged 'action' scenes where nothing of much interest happens, unless you're into explosions, gun fights, and train wrecks...which I'm not. Not my thing, but others may like it. ( )
  DLMorrese | Oct 14, 2016 |
I've been wanting to get into the Culture series, so I decided to start at the beginning. I'm... not sure that was the right choice. This book mostly takes place outside the Culture, featuring a protagonist who hates it for reasons I think are foolish. He's also a sexist, selfish asshole. I spent the entire book hoping he would fail miserably. Also, the book often gets bogged down in lengthy descriptions or side tangents that I couldn't care about at all. And there are a few scenes in there (particularly a disgusting one on an island) that serve no purpose at all and seem to be just jammed in there for no reason. I'll probably try another Culture book sometime, but I won't be recommending this one. ( )
  lavaturtle | Sep 18, 2016 |
This is a full in your face, love it or hate it Science Fiction, world-building, space operatic, centuries of history and story- telling series. Banks presents the universe in which the Culture presides through individual arcs that jump by hundreds of years in the Culture's history which together creates a panorama of the universe. For more check out my blog: http://girlsguidetoscifi.blogspot.ca/2013/09/the-man-who-sold-world-review-of.ht... ( )
  HollyBest | Jun 9, 2016 |
5 stars for the ending and the flawed Horza character. ( )
  bbrams17 | Jun 8, 2016 |
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The choice of name was definitely not an attempt to gain literary credentials or he would have ditched the ‘camp aliens and laser blasters.’ He has acknowledged the similarities to the poem in that the main character in Consider Phlebas is drowning and later undergoes a ’sea-change’ – this being a motif running through The Waste Land – but that is far as it goes.
But there are a number of parallels between the two works, whether deliberate or not on Iain’s part. To prove my point I will take a brief look at Consider Phlebas and then at The Waste Land, followed by examples of how the latter informs the former.
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Hopkinson, RichardCover artistsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Keynäs, VilleTranslatorsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Salwowski, MarkCover artistsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
Youll,PaulCover artistsecondary authorsome editionsconfirmed
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"Idolatry is worse than carnage."

The Koran, 2:190
"Gentile or Jew
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you."

T. S. Eliot,
'The Waste Land', IV
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The ship didn't even have a name.
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Amazon.com Product Description (ISBN 031600538X, Paperback)

"Dazzlingly original." -- Daily Mail
"Gripping, touching and funny." -- TLS

The war raged across the galaxy. Billions had died, billions more were doomed. Moons, planets, the very stars themselves, faced destruction, cold-blooded, brutal, and worse, random. The Idirans fought for their Faith; the Culture for its moral right to exist. Principles were at stake. There could be no surrender.

Within the cosmic conflict, an individual crusade. Deep within a fabled labyrinth on a barren world, a Planet of the Dead proscribed to mortals, lay a fugitive Mind. Both the Culture and the Idirans sought it. It was the fate of Horza, the Changer, and his motley crew of unpredictable mercenaries, human and machine, actually to find it, and with it their own destruction.

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The war raged across the galaxy. Billions had died, billions more were doomed. Moons, planets, the very stars themselves, faced destruction, cold-blooded, brutal, and worse, random. The Idirans fought for their Faith; the Culture for its moral right to exist. Principles were at stake. There could be no surrender. Within the cosmic conflict, an individual crusade. Deep within a fabled labyrinth on a barren world, a Planet of the Dead proscribed to mortals, lay a fugitive Mind. Both the Culture and the Idirans sought it. It was the fate of Horza, the Changer, and his motley crew of unpredictable mercenaries, human and machine, actually to find it, and with it their own destruction. Consider Phlebas - a space opera of stunning power and awesome imagination.… (more)

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