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Permutation City by Greg Egan
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Permutation City (original 1994; edition 1995)

by Greg Egan

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What happens when your digital self overpowers your physical self? A life in Permutation City is unlike any life to which you're accustomed. You have Eternal Life, the power to live forever. Immortality is a real thing, just not the thing you'd expect. Life is just electronic code. You have been digitized, scanned, and downloaded into a virtual reality program. A Copy of a Copy. For Paul Durham, he keeps making Copies of himself, but the issue is that his Copies keep changing their minds and shutting themselves down. You also have Maria Deluca, who is nothing but an Autoverse addict. She spends every waking minute with the cellular automaton known as the Autoverse, a world that lives by the mathematical "laws of physics."Paul makes Maria an offer to design and drop a seed into the Autoverse that will allow her to indulge in her obsession. There is, however, one catch: you can no longer terminate, bail out, and remove yourself. You will never be your normal flesh-and-blood life again. The question then becomes: Is this what she really wants? Is this what we really want? From the brilliant mind of Greg Egan, "Permutation City," first published in 1994, comes a world of wonder that makes you ask if you are you, or is the Copy of you the real you?… (more)
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Info:Eos (1995), Mass Market Paperback, 352 pages
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Permutation City by Greg Egan (1994)

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The ideas are mesmerising, cool, weird. They were the reason I had trouble letting the book go. Be warned, though - the plot and the characters are not much more then vehicles for author's visions. Once you accept that this is a book of ideas, you will have a wild sci-fi ride. ( )
  Alexandra_book_life | Dec 15, 2023 |
whew. it's a lot easier now, to extrapolate the world this book invents and then extend it outward as it develops, than it was in 1994 when Egan wrote it, so it's quite a feat. very exciting for its futurist ideas, but it's all hard science, not so much of a novel involving like characters, events, and stuff. still, a great read on its own terms and a total sf classic. ( )
1 vote macha | Sep 7, 2023 |
Yeah, good scientific speculations, some very good philosophical dilemmas, but no story, no tension or action, no characters (just names talking to each other, but with nothing to set them apart as personalities), lame and dry writing... in short, extremely boring. I actually "did not like it", the extra star is for the speculations I thought myself because of it. ( )
  milosdumbraci | May 5, 2023 |
Easily some of the top sci-fi I've read.
Egan manages to juggle a plethora of inspiring ideas alongside a cast of varied and really compelling characters.
Echoes of Berkeley, Leibniz, Hegel, and Nietzsche in the speculations (my reading) plus Von Neumann and Searle (explicitly stated).
Egan's a really impressive writer. Any worries I had about this being at the level of The Matrix or Rick and Morty or Black Mirror were completely unmitigated. This book lives leagues and leagues above those. ( )
  schumacherrr | Feb 21, 2022 |
The whole thing strikes me as preposterous—wish I could call a contingent of analytic philosophers to rip apart the "dust theory," which, to my mind, is an evasion of the real problems one might encounter in considering what makes a "system" sentient. Egan seems to be trying to reconcile structure and subjectivity (whatever that is) by suggesting that the former, once specified, will simply pop into existence complete with its own inner states by hijacking some material substratum: a programmer's idea of metempsychosis?

A kind of tiresome self-assuredness runs through the book as well, the confidence of a devotee of the natural sciences who throws a sundry assortment of analogies to cellular automata theory, differential geometry and relativity into a hat and with a wave of the hand claims to have said something interesting about "consciousness."

As a novel: the prose is rather tedious—neither the characters nor the scene really seem to come to life—and the plot strikes me as flimsy. ( )
  slplst | Sep 7, 2021 |
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Epigraph
Into a mute crypt, I

Can't pity our time

Turn amity poetic

Ciao, tiny trumpet!

Manic piety tutor

Tame purity tonic

Up, meiotic tyrant!

I taint my top cure

To it, my true panic

Put at my nice riot

To trace impunity

I tempt an outcry, I

Pin my taut erotic

Art to epic mutiny

Can't you permit it

To cite my apt ruin?

My true icon: tap it

Copy time, turn it; a

Rite to cut my pain

Atomic putty? Rien!

Found in the memory of a discarded notepad in the Common Room of the Psychiatric Ward, Blacktown Hospital, June 6, 2045.
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"Thanks to Deborah Beale, Charon Wood, Peter Robinson, David Pringle, Lee Montgomerie, Gardner Dozois and Sheila Williams"
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Paul Durham opened his eyes, blinking at the room's unexpected brightness, then lazily reached out to place one hand in a patch of sunlight at the edge of the bed.
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What happens when your digital self overpowers your physical self? A life in Permutation City is unlike any life to which you're accustomed. You have Eternal Life, the power to live forever. Immortality is a real thing, just not the thing you'd expect. Life is just electronic code. You have been digitized, scanned, and downloaded into a virtual reality program. A Copy of a Copy. For Paul Durham, he keeps making Copies of himself, but the issue is that his Copies keep changing their minds and shutting themselves down. You also have Maria Deluca, who is nothing but an Autoverse addict. She spends every waking minute with the cellular automaton known as the Autoverse, a world that lives by the mathematical "laws of physics."Paul makes Maria an offer to design and drop a seed into the Autoverse that will allow her to indulge in her obsession. There is, however, one catch: you can no longer terminate, bail out, and remove yourself. You will never be your normal flesh-and-blood life again. The question then becomes: Is this what she really wants? Is this what we really want? From the brilliant mind of Greg Egan, "Permutation City," first published in 1994, comes a world of wonder that makes you ask if you are you, or is the Copy of you the real you?

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