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... so I can't comment on it, but Startide Rising is still one of my all-time favorite science fiction novels. I like The Uplift War almost as much, and was excited to see the recent publication of the second Uplift trilogy. There are some things I greatly like about these newer books, ... ... Octavia 1
1987 Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency Adams, Douglas 2
1987 Trekmaster Johnson, James B. 1
1987 Uplift War, The (Uplift saga) Brin, David 1
1987 Watchers Koontz, Dean 1
1988 Agent of Change Lee, Sharon and Steve Miller 1
1988 Conflict of Honors Lee, Sharon ... ...
Brin, David Kiln People 2002 1
Brin, David Postman, The 1985 1
Brin, David Startide Rising 1983 3
Brin, David Uplift War, The (Uplift saga) 1987 1
Brown, Eric Kethani 2008 1
Brunner, John Stand on Zanzibar 1968 3
Bujold, Lois McMaster Barrayar 1991 4
Bujold, Lois McMa ... ... Elizabeth 2007 1
Unmanned (Y: The Last Man) Vaughn, Brian K. 2003 1
Unwind Shusterman, Neal 2007 1
Uplift War, The (Uplift saga) Brin, David 1987 1
Veniss Underground Vandermeer, Jeff 2003 1
Voyage Baxter, Stephen 1996 1
Vurt Noon, Jeff 1993 1
Wake McMann, Lis ... ... to me. I even liked Earth a whole lot. I haven't read it in nigh on 20 years, but I really loved it then...also, The Uplift War completely ensorcelled me. The Gubru, with their tripartite expansive verb structure, have left an indelible mark on me...I still, to this good day, say ... ... become a turn-off for some.
Ah, Chris, that's a great set of books to have with you. Those two are Brin's best work, and The Uplift War is one of my favorite all-time books. I love the humor in it, and I love the political structure of Brin's universe. So sad that he completely wimped out in ... ... of Hed trilogy. When I lived in Costa Rica, these were the only books I brought with me, along with Startide Rising and The Uplift War by David Brin. They bear rereading quite well, never losing their charm and poetry. #116 From what I remember, the Uplift books Startide Rising, The Uplift War, Brightness Reef, Infinity's Shore and Heaven's Reach all follow the same story arc. OTOH, none of Banks's Culture novels do - which makes them not a series by your definition. 34. The Uplift War by David Brin
I have a sneaky suspicion that this Uplift Saga will be better than the sum of it's parts, like the old Shannara books. This was another long story about neo-chimpanzees trying to survive in an isolated mountain region against overwhelming odds. The Gubru ... 83: Interesting anti-list. I agree on some (the Rama series, for example). I found the second Uplift series got better as it went on, it seemed that Brin got more sure of the story he wanted to tell. ... series by Bujold
The Liaden series by Lee and Miller
The Heris Serrano series by Moon
The first trilogy of the Uplift series by Brin
The Telzey and Trigger series by James H. Schmitz
The Time Trader series by Andre Norton
The Solar Queen series by Andre Norton
The Sector G ... ... a universe full of aliens, each species with its own agenda as well. This is well-done as well--similar to David Brin's Uplift trilogy in complexity and motivation.
But it all unfolds in the background and interaction of our main character, a young woman with fascinating antecedents who ... ... a universe full of aliens, each species with its own agenda as well. This is well-done as well--similar to David Brin's Uplift trilogy in complexity and motivation.
But it all unfolds in the background and interaction of our main character, a young woman with fascinating antecedents who ... ... the second, Startide Rising, because I'll try anything that wins both the Hugo and the Nebula. I loved it and went on to The Uplift War (good, but a slight notch down), then filled in Sundiver.
The series stalled there for a while and then Brin added another trilogy that picked up and ... I LOVE The Uplift War--no, wait, I already said that in message 45, didn't I? I'm delighted you enjoyed it so much. Warning about the next three books--planet-bound, some very interesting interplay among different alien creatures on that planet, but nothing like these last two. And then there is ... 27. Startide Rising by David Brin 4/5
28. The Uplift War by David Brin 5/5
They definitely got better and better. The Uplift War was as good a piece of Science Fiction as any I've read. Startide Rising was excellent but a little convoluted with frequent and rapid character ... ... Hellflower by Eluki Bes Shahar
A Deepness in the Sky by Vernor Vinge
The Speed of Dark by Elizabeth Moon
The Uplift War by David Brin
The Chanur Saga by C. J. Cherryh
Beggars In Spain by Nancy Kress
City of Pearl by Karen Traviss
The Outback Stars ... ... structure and the significance of libraries. Startide Rising is fascinating, with lots of action and suspense, while The Uplift War is my favorite, with its political and social interplay and a good sense of humor. These two books are the acme of the series. There is really no need to ... ... airs
5. The Dark is Rising by Susan Cooper
6. Bridge of Birds by Barry Hughart
7. Dragonsbane by Barbara Hambly
8. The Uplift War by David Brin
9. Always Coming Home by Ursula Le Guin
10. The Prydain Chronicles by Lloyd Alexander
Now, I feel obliged to present a list of the ... ... of time
mistborn
and then there are loads of finished series' such as
hitchhiker's
the gap
sherlock holmes
uplift
And one I think I'll like but haven't yet dared start GRRM 's
swords of ice and fire ... it into series and singletons:
1. C.J. Cherryh's books, most recently the Foreigner series
2. David Brin's Uplift series
3. the Mageworlds books by Debra Doyle and James D. MacDonald
4. Jo Clayton's Skeen trilogy
5. the Sector General series by James White ... #57 +1
OP maybe Brin's Uplift series would suit. A goodly part of the action in The Uplift War by Brin is driven by the ambitions of gender differentiation of one of the main alien species, the Gubru, where the gender one becomes at molt within one's triad is the result of a complex interrelationship of social dominance and power.
edited ... >256 Okay, I just mooched this, Susan, on your recommendation!
David Brin, in The Uplift War, had 7 words that I did not know in it. Rarely do I find even one (that is English, at least). And I love the story--it is delightful. ... to fantasy.
Dragon's Egg probably couldn't be translated into fantasy. Star Wars, Babylon 5, and even say, the Uplift series probably could. ... other 13 related books
Sf
Needle, Through the Eye of a Needle by Hal Clement
Sundiver, Startide Rising, The Uplift War by David Brin
Catspaw, Psion, Dreamfall by Joan Vinge
Judgments of Dragons, The Kingdom of the Cats, Emperor, Swords and Pentacles by ... ... other 13 related books
Sf
Needle, Through the Eye of a Needle by Hal Clement
Sundiver, Startide Rising, The Uplift War by David Brin
Catspaw, Psion, Dreamfall by Joan Vinge
Judgments of Dragons, The Kingdom of the Cats, Emperor, Swords and Pentacles by Phyl ... Favorite sf rereads:
1. David Brin's early works: Sundiver, Startide Rising, The Practice Effect, and The Uplift War.
2. S.Andrew Swann's series Forests of the Night, Specters of the Dawn, and Emperors of the Twilight
2. Any Star Trek book by L.A.Graf, like Firestorm, Death Count ... ... get invested in the characters, but YMMV.
I think the first trilogy by David Brin was very, very good. In fact, The Uplift War is one of my top tier books. I loved the universe he created. The first book of the second trilogy had promise, but the rest never delivered, and with the ... I also think Brin inconsistent. I do like the first Uplift trilogy VERY much--I'm quite okay with the ending of Uplift War--I love the sense of humor and the interlocking themes and the aliens especially in that book.The second trilogy didn't resonate nearly as much regarding story line and ... ... I find him very inconsistent. I think the first three of the Uplift books are quite good (except for the very end of The Uplift War)...Startide Rising being one of my favorite science fiction books. The second three Uplift books were fine. The Postman was quite good. I liked Earth ... ... any
James Schmitz-any but especially Demon Breed and Witches of Karres
and there are a few individual favorites:
The Uplift War by David Brin
Water Witch by Cynthia Felice and Willis
the Catspaw books by Joan Vinge
the Chanur series by Cherryh
Way Station by Simak
... ... was recommended to me by one of my wife's co-workers. They are:
The Postman
Earth
Sundiver
Startide Rising
The Uplift War
I know that the last three are the first three books of a series (he who would be last shall be first, and he who would be first, shall be last) so if I ... ... is a masterpiece.
I also think Light is some of the worst SF ever written. So that might define some of my tastes. The Uplift Series is good space opera. I liked The Golden Compass (my husband hated it), but thought the series became too didactic. The last book is fairly unreadable. ... ... reading The Crystal Spheres and few other David Brin short stories. He knows his job :-) When I was younger I read Uplift War and wasn't able to embark to his vision, maybe I should read it again ? ... two Uplift trilogies, although I thought Sundiver was a weak start to them. They are:
Sundiver
Startide Rising
The Uplift War
Brightness Reef
Infinity's Shore
Heaven's Reach ...
Egan, again, mostly.
Orphans Of Earth et. al. by Sean Williams and Shane Dix
David Brin's Uplift series The Uplift War et.c ... ams
lots of The Spider, he has a great dane - Grant Stockbridge
Beyond the Black River by Robert E. Howard
The Uplift War by David Brin
Old Yeller
The Grey King by Susan Cooper
Thor by Wayne Smith
The Giant of the North by R. M. Ballantyne
Wutherin ...
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