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... Kierkegaard's Seducer's Diary, Augustine's The Confessions of St. Augustine, Voltaire's The Optimist, Plato's The Republic...
Not too mention all of the great works of literature that have been inspired and are infused with philosophical thought (i.e., Dostoyevsky, Dante, Edmond ... The Republic* by Plato
Not too good an English title, to express Platoʻs Politeia. "Government" would be closer to the Greek meaning, but that, I suppose, is a kind of stodgy title.
In any case, he didnʻt mean "Republic" in the sense of "opposed to Monarchy", still less ... Republic by Plato
One of the best books I've ever read. I wish I had read it twenty years ago, but perhaps I would not have appreciated it then as much as I do now. Although this is one of the most influential books in history, I put off reading it due to a lack of interest in political ... Book 75: Republic by Plato
One of the best books I've ever read. A fitting milestone.
I wish I had read it twenty years ago, but perhaps I would not have appreciated it then as much as I do now. Although this is one of the most influential books in history, I put off reading it due to a ... ... things. I'm about 300 pages in and I feel like the story is finally picking up.
At work I am just about finished Plato's Republic and should be able to pick up Walden by Henry David Thoreau by tomorrow. ... (current):
British Sea Power
Doves
Silversun Pickups
3 books that have been on the to-read list among the longest:
The Republic
On the Origin of Species
Etoro Social Structure Still working on Palimpsest by Catherynne Valente, Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson and The Republic by Plato. ... Stephenson with an interruption by Palimpsest by Cat Valente as it's a library book.
My at work reading is Plato's Republic which is both creepy as all hell but an interesting read. ... )
Guy Gavriel Kay Lord of Emperors (completing the Sarantine Mosaic)
Elizabeth Moon Sheepfarmer's Daughter
and Plato The Republic (thought I had a copy and couldn't find it!)
Now all I need to do is find the time for reading! ... )
Guy Gavriel Kay Lord of Emperors (completing the Sarantine Mosaic)
Elizabeth Moon Sheepfarmer's Daughter
and Plato The Republic (thought I had a copy and couldn't find it!)
Now all I need to do is find the time for reading! ... War by Thucydides
3. Plutarch's Lives
4. selections by Xenophon
5. The Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle
6. The Republic by Plato
7. Utopia by Sir Thomas More
8. Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville
9. The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by E ... ... 12 of those! Good thing I have another 7 years to go, although I don't think I will ever read The Art of War or Plato's Republic. ... and Aristophanes' The Frogs plus Lysistrata for proof that we ain't boo-turkey different from our forebears.
The Republic of Plato; The Laws of Cicero; The Twelve Caesars by Suetonius for the roots of persuasive argument as a discipline (the last because it's a big ol' pack of ... 48. Republic by Plato
I finally ploughed through this book. I found this book hard to read in high school and it still is for me. Like a prof's lecture it was informative but my mind wandered a lot. After months of work I did it. 48. Classic Lit-Ancient
Plato's Republic
I finally ploughed through this book. Just like High School I found it hard to read and boring. It's like a prof's lecture, I learned a lot (the debate about Justice did make me think) but it was dry reading and my mind wandered a lot. Took me months ... ... flections
A Whole New Mind
Going the Distance: One Man's Journey to the End of His Life
Man's Search for Meaning
The Republic
200 – Religion
The Perennial Philosophy
The Varieties Of Religious Experience: A Study In Human Nature
The Kingdom of God is Within You
300 ... ... by Charles Darwin
A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking
Principles of Geology by Charles Lyell
The Republic by Plato
The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx
The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith
On Liberty by John Stuart Mill
The Vindication of ... If you liked Jonathan Livingston Seagull, you'll love Plato's Republic.
I get annoyed by books about "the day that changed everything in golf/medicine/politics, etc." ... in high school but joined a readers theater and got out of it. A heads up I will be reading Iliad, Aeneid, and Plato's Republic next. Of course I hope to work some fun reads in there.
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She had just come home from a rehab center and for a few weeks she was her old self. But her ... ... ad?
There have been a lot of the 'classics' that I have struggled with, but if I had to narrow it down, I would say Plato's Republic
16) What is the most obscure Shakespeare play you've seen?
The Winter's Tale
17) Do you prefer the French or the Russians?
Russians
18) Roth or Updike? ... ... this regard I actually think the Greeks have aged better than some other thinkers. Although I found that reading Plato's Republic was really worthwhile and thought-provoking (though I didn't see it as a useful model for modern society, it got me to think about things I had not thought about), ... ... one.
I'll try to appease them by saying Guns, Germs and Steel, the Oxford English Dictionary, The Art of War, Plato's Republic, Escape From Slavery by Francis Bok (more for the humans' benefit), The Outline of History volumes 1 and 2 by H.G. Wells, The Audacity of Hope (again, more for ... ... one.
I'll try to appease them by saying Guns, Germs and Steel, the Oxford English Dictionary, The Art of War, Plato's Republic, Escape From Slavery by Francis Bok (more for the humans' benefit), The Outline of History volumes 1 and 2 by H.G. Wells, The Audacity of Hope (again, more for ... ... much more important to him)
From the ancients, my favorite is Plato, particularly The Apology of Socrates, Crito and The Republic.
Happy reading!
P.S. I've included wikipedia links for some of the writers! ... them but have never read them "straight through." I'll see which one you recommend and try that when my challenge is done. Republic is a great book. I've read most of your classics and have Anna Karenina on my 999 list. The only other one I haven't read is The Trial and I'm considering that ... ... "hell" can be found in "pagan" literature that pre-dates both the Eastern and Western Churches (literature such as Plato's "Republic" and Virgil's "Aeneid"). I should have written: "hell as we know it." 2. Classic Lit- (DONE)
Ancient:
1. Aeneid read 6-10-2009
2. The Republicread 8-6-2009
3. The Iliad read 6-10-2009
Before 1900:
4. Pilgrams Progress read 9-03-2009
5. Cyrano de Bergerac read 1-11-2009
6. Arthurian Romances read 6-11-2009
After 1900:
7. A Tree Grows in Brook ... ... and I mean to read it sooner or later.
The Charterhouse of Parma by Stendhal, a nice folio society edition, for £6.
The Republic by Plato, hardback, rebound from a penguin classic edition, £2.
Critique of Pure Reason by Kant, Evermans Library edition, £2.50.
I'm currently ... "The enmity he aroused thereby followed him implacably through his life and even after."
The Republic
A couple of mooches, a new book, and a used one:
The Republic by Plato
Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle
The Trial by Franz Kafka (for the groupread)
The Canterbury Tales by Geoffrey Chaucer
I'm still confused about why I had to buy another copy of The Trial. I was sure that I had ... ... -- like the Jack London of "To Build a Fire".
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Your mention of The Allegory of the Cave from Plato's Republic is apt (also re: #55). McCarthy is asking us whether our moral convictions are "shadows", thrown by our civilized social imprisonment. If we "prisoners" were ... ... add to the somewhat pedestrian (pun deliberate, you live too far away to come after me for it) rehash the book makes of The Republic's allegory of the Cave?
None of which is intended to say you shouldn't or are wrong to enjoy the book on each and all of these levels. I am not saying that ... I am in the middle of reading Plato's The Republic.
My summer reading list so far:
H - Peloponnesian War by Thucydides
D - Everyman
H - The Prince by Machiavelli
P - Sonnets of Shakespeare
D - Doctor Faustus by Marlowe
D - Richard III by Shakespeare
D - Midsummer Nig ... ... by Susan Dwyer Amussen
309- The Puritan Family by Edmund Morgan
320- Civic Wars by Mary Ryan
321- The Republic by Plato
322- Early New England: A Covenanted Society by David Weir
323- Liberty before Liberalism by Quentin Skinner
325- Lords of All the ... #68 - I just told my boss she should read The Prince - she asked me about The republic and I told her it was a wee bit on the philosophical side (knowing her), thinking Machiavelli would be more useful to read, for reflection ;-) All right, some more books:
34: Plato's Republic; I read the Cornford edition
As may have been mentioned before, I'm not so good at reading old literature by myself. I don't know why; I'm just not. So in the interest of full disclosure, I will tell you that I read this book for my ... ... of crap. An interesting and enlightening perspective; highly recommended.
Currently reading (a very small sampling): Plato's Republic; Jesus for the Non-Religious by Bishop Spong who has seriously the funniest name ever; The Map that Changed the World by the author of The Professo ... ... Romeo and Juliet
14. Anna Karenina
15, War and Peace
16. A Wrinkle in Time
17. Macbeth
18. The Aeneid
19. The Republic
20. The Origin of Species
21. The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
22. Les Misérables
23. The Oresteia
24. Flowers for Algernon
25. Flatl ... The Republic and The Prince were needed for me to truly grasp philosophy, but I can't say I TRULY enjoyed them. I think it's more of a I'm-looking-back-on-what-I've-learned-so-maybe-it-was-kinda-enjoyable type thing. Yeah. ... The Histories
4. Plato, Meno
5. Plato, Gorgias
6. Sophocles, Antigone
7. Plutarch, Greek Lives
8. Plato, Republic
9. Aristophanes, Clouds
10. Plato, Apology, Crito and Phaedo
11. Sophocles, Oedipus Rex
12. Thucydides, Peloponnesian War
13. Plato, Symposium
14. A ... ... Crito, Phaedo. Then Meno and select a couple more of the shorter dialogs, perhaps. Eventually you'll want to take on Republic.
You could then take on Aristotle, and I would suggest the long and somewhat difficult Nichomachean Ethics.
From there, a survey would be a good choice. ... ... Ozick is claiming that it is not necessarily a 'true' story, or a roman a clef even though Bellow was great friends with Allen Bloom and went through the food poisoning experience in the caribbean.
Much of the story is really what happened, in that allen Bloom did become a millionaire by ... ... of the two very different Penguin translations of The Iliad that I`ve owned and I recall owning a copy of Plato`s Republic that differed significantly from one owned by a friend.
Questions of interpretation and translation are never going to go away. I can`t see it`s helpful to ... ... 30 users newly adding it as an interesting library now... there are many enthusiastic blog posts...and I see TJ's review of The Republic of Plato is rated #1, with seven thumbs up.
Let's face it. TJ is the new Paris Hilton. ... that makes one invisible (and at the same time leads to corruption) is at least as old as Plato (cf. the ring of Gyges in The Republic). I don't know the Kalevala, but I'm sure you're right - Plato 'steals' myths all the time, so I'm sure the ring fable is much older than him. ... became one of the core principles of the Enlightenment.
Conservatives have always treated this idea warily.
Plato, in the Republic, talks at length about the importance of education to the good ordering of society,and, in his ideal society, proposes that
a) the masses need to be taught ... ... genuinely not understanding your complaint here:
Did Doug not say that Z & C were a bad influence on the young?
Does the The Republic not say something similar, about the importance of maintaining imyths to help maintain political peace?
Are you saying that one of the cornerstones of ... ... about accusing someone of making a "false" imputation. I'm just sayin'.
(But wait: you're saying that the views in The Republic are "nasty"? I tend to agree, but they are a cornerstone of one (...conservative...) view of government.)
But for you, I'll walk you through it.
... ... by David G. Pitt
A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens
Treasure Island by Robert Louis Stevenson
Plato's Rebuplic translated by B. Jowett
The Greek Philosophers by Rex Warner
... Hall while those exhibits were at the Met; The Devil in the Shape of a Woman, Medieval Art, and The Republic of Plato are just three of the book I have that I bought and read for specific courses. (Traveling art exhibits and college courses both tend to have ... ... family; Marriage; Woman; Sexuality: Why Men Don't Have a Clue and Women Always Need More Shoes
JC Political Theory: Republic
LB Theory and Practice of Education: My Freshman Year
P Philology; Linguistics: The Decipherment of Linear B
PA Greek language and literature; Latin ... ... Fire and Ice by Michael Adams
305 Social Groups: Nickel and Dimed
321 Systems of Governments and States: Plato's Republic
323 Civil and Political Rights: Race Against Time (Massey Lectures)
330 Economics: Why Your World is About to Get a Whole Lot Smaller
332 Financial Economics ... ... king."
There is, to this day, great disagreement among ancient scholars about the political messages behind the Republic, and that disagreement especially extends to the notion of the philosopher king, and the so-called "Allegory of the Cave."
The contentious issue here is just ... It's interesting to see what TJ's opinions were on the Republic, not least of all because of his comments regarding Cicero. Anyone who's read Cicero's own writings (no original philosophy, by the way, all he did was take others' ideas and rhetorize them) would find it laughable to, in two ... I think some of you may find the latest review of The Republic of Plato interesting. :-)
It has been garnering some thumb-ups, but they may all be from those of us cataloging the reviewer's library. The Republic of Plato by Plato ... I'd list my old). Thucydides is the only exception I can recall from the top of my head. (Plus bits and pieces of The Republic, but not the whole thing). I have however read all my folio books that I've not previously read in other editions. This is roughly 2/3 of my collection. And one final textbook:
The Republic, by Plato ... Sense and Sensibility has been tagged 'angst' by someone. I wonder what he/she thought of Persuasion!
Plato's Republic is 'queer'.
I think my favourite might be the 'trivia' tag someone slapped on Dracula. Most classics should be reduced to mere trivia, after all!
The ... ... Home and tend to tape it if I'm going to miss the show.
A book I've really enjoyed is The Sun & Moon Over Assisi by Gerard Thomas Straub. It's a great weaving of history and memoir and Catholicism.
I'm looking forward to reading more discussions. Thanks for creating this group. ... myself to littering the pages with little pencil '?' and '!' when I disagree with or challenge the argument. Capital and Republic are brimming with such marginalia! ... that everyone else has leisure time for philosophical contemplation. The most genuine precursor to More is probably Plato's Republic. There, too, it's not just that Socrates argues (as someone above mentions) that only an elite can attain enlightenment (which he does say), but he also adamantly ... ... by Euripedes
The Birds by Aristophanes
The Clouds by Aristophanes
Peloponnesian War by Thucydides, Lattimore
Republic by Plato, Grube
Poetics by Aristotle, Halliwell
Odes and Epodes by Horace, West
: ) Jessica ... found in Discourse on Method or other collected works titles) and Plato’s Allegory of the Cave found in Book 7 of Republic. Both offer an intriguing look at seeing things “clearly,” or at least what we perceive to be clear. ... openset etc
A bit busy at the minute, but a couple of hasty thoughts on Plato. Personally, I`m not keen on either The Republic or The Symposium. I live in hope that I will grow to appreciate them more, but at present, The Republic to me is a blueprint for an ideal society (stating ... ... s/lists/
Matriculated 2001, so I should probably be able to remember all of what we read...
The Communist Manifesto
The Republic
A Midsummer Night's Dream
Things Fall Apart
Notes From Underground
The Book of Job
Siderius Nuncius by Galileo
The Structure of Scientific Revolutio ... ... Book of Genesis, I believe the King James Version(?)
2. As I Lay Dying
3. Structure of Scientific Revolutions
4. Republic
... small and easy to carry, and I enjoy reading it often.
7. The Tao Te Ching, for similar reasons.
8. And Plato’s Republic because I enjoy it, and being away in solitude for a long time I would have the chance to read it from beginning to end.
I could probably carry a few others, ...
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