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... rpunk)
6. Snow Crash (postcyberpunk)
7. The Good Fairies of New York (elfpunk)
8. 1984 (dieselpunk)
9. Swordspoint (mannerpunk)
The "Just in Case" 9 (these are just a handful of other TBR books that I'll substitute out in case something just isn't working for me)
...
... Night Garden by Catherynne M. Valente
The Orphan's Tales: In the Cities of Coin and Spice by Catherynne M. Valente,
Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner
The Privilege of the Sword by Ellen Kushner
The Worst:
Andorra by Peter Cameron
The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty by A. N. Roqu ...
9. Rereads
Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner
The Fall of the Kings by Ellen Kushner and Delia Sherman
The Privilege of the Sword by Ellen Kushner
Melusine by Sarah Monette
The Virtu by Sarah Monette
The Mirador by Sarah Monette
The Lies of Locke Lamora ...
... Washington
Semiotext (E) SF edited by Rudy Rucker et al to Iowa
Mammoth Book of Classic Science Fiction to Minnesota
Swordspoint to Canada
Other:
City of Ember to my daughter in Missouri
Tooth and Nail to my sister-in-law in Maine
... Carnelian from Michael Moorcock's Dancers at the End of Time series.
Richard St. Vier from Ellen Kushner's Swordspoint .
Jalaeka from Living Next Door to the God of Love.
...
I like some more than others, I'm just a bit sad that after 24 years of reading I have less ...
... by Lynn Flewelling. At least the first three books. The fourth in the series is a little weak.
Ellen Kushners Swordspoint and The Fall of the Kings.
Diana Gabaldons historical series withLord John is about a gay aristocrat in Georgian era England.
Same universe as the ...
... Project: An Intimate History of American Girls by Joan Jacobs Brumberg
45. Where Memories Lie by Deborah Crombie
46. Swordspoint: A Melodrama of Manners by Ellen Kushner
47. The Privilege of the Sword by Ellen Kushner
A third vote for Ellen Kushner's books. I've just finished Swordspoint on a transatlantic flight, and it mightily distracted me from the immense discomforts of the trip!
... have really minor instances of magic, but nothing that intrudes upon the story.
Also going to echo the recommendation of Swordspoint , The Fall of the Kings and The Privilege of the Sword by Ellen Kushner. They take place in the same city over the course of a century but can be read ...
Finished 2 books by Ellen Kushner: Swordspoint and The Privilege of the Sword.
The stories are set in a fantasy land but not a magical land. They were interesting for the political manueverings and for the code of the swordspersons. I don't expect I would re-read these, but I would ...
... too long.
9 The vanishing Bentley Little
meh, not impressed, maybe there are better books by this author.
10 Swordspoint Ellen Kushner
sharp wit, twisty plots, a fun read.
11 Ice Hunt James Rollins
it was ok, I get a little tired of all the shooting, falling and ...
I've tagged the both Swordspoint and its sequels and Sorcery and Cecilia and its sequels as "Fantasy of manners" along with Caroline Stevermers A College of Magics and A Scholar of Magics and Wen Spencers A Brothers Price.
For me to tag a book "Fantasy of manners" requires it to ...
... by Lois McMaster Bujold. (This actually has the words 'comedy of manners' in the subtitle, which is a big help).
swordspoint by ellen kushner. (Actually described in the subtitle as 'a melodrama of manners').
Sorcery and Cecilia by Patricia c. Wrede
Could you ...
Swordspoint
Curse of the Mistwraith
Chronicles of Amber
Tales of the Flat Earth
Wraeththu
I would include the Blue Sword and The Hero and the Crown, but I don't currently own either of them. I've read both several times.
... magician
Stevermers College of Magics and Scholar of Magics are similar in tone, and not obviously fantasy
Swordspoint and Privilege of the Sword are similar Victorian style but with only the smallest bit of fantasy in them
All the Harry Dresden books are actually a good ...
... character development"? Why can't people leave a good thing alone; seriously, not every book needs a sequel. I loved Swordspoint couldn't read Fall of the Kings and finished this book thinking, why even bother to have a plot if you are just going to randomly and abruptly end the whole ...
... liens.
And Maledicte by Lane Robins (First Book) was my favorite read of the year. Very much like Ellen Kushner's Swordspoint series, only better. Very dark, lots of black humor, and good heart at the end.
Ellen Kushner's Swordspoint and The Privilege of the Sword, maybe -- I can't remember any magic in those. Also, if you're willing to allow communication with the gods, then The Thief and the two that follow it by Megan Whalen Turner might fit your requirements.
Bite, edited by Laurel K. Hamilton
Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner
Legends, edited by Silverberg
Ceremony, by Parker
(Ceremony by Leslie Marmon Silko)
Babycakes by Armistead Maupin
Four books arrived from amazon today:
Ysabel - Guy Gavriel Kay
Swordspoint - Ellen Kushner
Vagabond - Bernard Cornwell
Ptolemy's Gate - Jonathan Stroud
I'm really excited about these, I've been waiting to read all of them for at least a few months, more than a year ...
10 Swordspoint Ellen Kushner
sharp wit, twisty plots, a fun read.
... assan
Judith Tarr's historical fantasy The Hound and the Falcon
Gene Wolfe New Sun series
Ellen Kushner Swordspoint
Martha Wells City of Bones, Wheel of the Infinite, The Fall of Ile-Rien series
From Marion Zimmer Bradleys Darkover series: Thendara House
...
... currently on hiatus, I think?), series. My favourite portions fall under the Kings of the Broken Wheel storyline.
Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner
The Last Herald-Mage Trilogy by Mercedes Lackey
The Belgariad by David Eddings
Elantris by Brandon Sanderson
...
... - I clearly don't many oriignal reading impulses but I also really enjoyed the Temeraire series, Mesluine + sequels, Swordspoint and it's companion, and The Lies of Locke Lamora although I'm petrified to read the next in case it loses direction and goes horribly downhill.
... several wonderful books set in a medieval university town which has the underclass and the nobility striving and scuffling. Swordspoint , The Fall of the Kings, the Privilege of the Sword - Priviledge is the best but you have to have read Swordspoint to really get it
The Hidden Queen and ...
I think I have a definite Top 5 now:
Lord of Emperors by Guy Gavriel Kay (2)
Tigana by Guy Gavriel Kay (2)
Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner (3)
Fool's Errand by Robin Hobb (3)
The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch (4)
Honourable Mentions:
Thieves & Kings ...
... it a nice, round five, but I'll wait until the end of the year to pick a final title. Right now I think it'll be either Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner or The Fall of the Kings by Ellen Kushner and Delia Sherman, but there's still almost a month left. Something might come along ...
What about Swordspoint and Burying the Shadow. Not sure if they fit the initial criteria as far as genre.
(And yes I know about about the Fall of the Kings but I refuse to acknowledge its connection to Swordspoint.)
... order I read them, not necessarily the order I'd rank them:
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows by J.K. Rowling
Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner
The Fall of the Kings by Ellen Kushner and Delia Sherman
Fool's Errand by Robin Hobb
And the last one... well, that's ...
In the Teeth of the Evidence, by Dorothy L. Sayers
Swordspoint , by Ellen Kushner
The Sharpshooter Blues, by Lewis Nordan
Point of Order!, by Emile de Antonio
Starting from Scratch, by Rita Mae Brown
... Women of China by Xinran
35. Castle in the Air by Diana Jones
36. The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown
37. Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner
38. A Great and Terrible Beauty by Libba Bray
39. The Undomestic Goddess by Sophie Kinsella
40. The Far Pavilions by M.M. ...
... Sigh.
On the upside, though, I went to their flagship store today in search of it and ended up coming away with a copy of Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner. I read and loved it last weekend, and I'm very glad to have found a personal copy so quickly. Usually it's hell, tracking down the books ...
I agree on the Swordspoint and the sequel The Fall Of the Kings by Ellen Kushner.
I would also recommend God Eaters by Jesse Hajicek. Lovely fantasy with a sweet m/m romance.
Lord John and the Private Matter is only tenuously related to fantasy by way of the timetraveling Outlande ...
... Kushner and Delia Sherman at my favourite used bookstore this afternoon. I'm really looking forward to reading it; Swordspoint was my favourite book of July, and I'm eager to once again wallow in Ms. Sherman's gorgeous style.
I also found a copy of Fool's Fate by Robin Hobb ...
I finished Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner a little earlier this afternoon; it affected me so much that I'm not sure I'm ready to dive into anything serious just yet. I think I'll read The Cradle Robbers by Ayelet Waldman next, as it looks to be a fairly quick, uninvolved mystery.
It's such a cliche, I know, but it's got to be Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. However, Ellen Kushner's Swordspoint , which I'm just finishing up right now, will probably rank pretty highly too.
ETA: yup. Swordspoint is quite firmly tied with Harry.
I'm almost finish with Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner. I was a little leery of it at first as I'd heard very mixed reviews, but I'm loving it. I want a personal copy, (this one is from the library), and as long as the ending holds up I'll definitely be checking out more of Ms. Kushner's work.
... Nights of Snowfall, (excellent stuff; I like this series more and more with each new volume), and this morning I started Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner. I'd heard mixed reviews of it, but so far I really like it. Her style works for me.
#204 - Swordspoint is amazing. I hope you enjoy it.
Next for me is Brightly Burning by Mercedes Lackey, and either Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince or Sense and Sensibility.
... resist. Over the next little bit, I want to get to:
Ysabel by Guy Gavriel Kay
Blood Price by Tanya Huff
Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner
An Earthly Knight by Janet McNaughton
The Amulet of Samarkand by Jonathan Stroud
The Cradle Robbers by Ayelet Waldman
...
... et al - library
142. Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them by Newt Scamander (aka J.K. Rowling) - keeper
143. Swordspoint by Ellen Kushner - library, unfortunately; personal copy later purchased
144. The Cradle Robbers by Ayelet Waldman - loaner
Of course, Melusine and the sequels, and the Nightrunner series are way up there with my favorites. And, of course, Swordspoint must be added to that list.
... Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass, Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell, Little, Big, The Mists of Avalon, and Swordspoint .
I'm 15. Favorite books? Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell, Swordspoint , Harry Potter (of course), American Gods, Twilight,The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nightime,among other things...I'm an aspiring author, too. Nice to meet y'all.
A duplicate post which I have removed. Not sure if it was my system on LT gremlins.
... wonderful books set in a medieval university town which has the underclass and the nobility striving and scuffling. Swordspoint , The Fall of the Kings, the Privilege of the Sword
... God Eaters by Jesse Hajicek. A fantasy adventure with a m/m romance. Very good. Almost as good as Ellen Kushner's Swordspoint and The Fall of the Kings.
In the fantasy genre I have a few:
Ellen Kushner: Swordspoint (m/m), The fall of the Kings (mainly m/m)
Jesse Hajicek: The God Eaters (m/m. Selfpublished, which is probably responsible for the not so good paperquality and page layout, but well edited and well written)
I would ...
Aarti, Swordspoint to me felt like historical novel rather than fantasy. I don't know what it is that made it so but I couldn't point to it when I finished reading and say it was fantasy.
I really will have to get the lies of Locke Lamora and book 2 of Naomi Novik's series.
I too was ...
I also liked Swordspoint quite a bit. I haven't read anything else by Kushner, though.
I am currently enjoying The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch.
I have been struggling with The Darkness that Comes Before by Bakker for a while but can't seem to really get into it.
I finished Swordspoint and The Language of the Night, but I'm still working on A Hero of Our Own: The Story of Varian Fry.
I've just started Jasper Fforde's The Big Over Easy, as well as A Member of the Family: Gay Men Write About Their Families, edited by John Preston.
And I ...
Well I loved Swordspoint and liked the next 2 books less: The Fall of the Kings and the most recent which I just read a few weeks ago: The Privilege of the Sword. I am mad for Alec and Richard and after swordspoint they are scarce.
I have read Little, Big and all I will say is tedious ...
... : a "suppressed" episode of Through the looking-glass and what Alice found there
Blood from a Stone, Donna Leon
Swordspoint: a novel , Ellen Kushner
Tales from the Arabian Nights, Andrew Lang
Unlocking the air and other stories, Ursula K. LeGuin
Knickerbocker's Hist ...
Deirdre, just wanted to let you know that I was disappointed with Swordspoint as well- just like you said, there was hardly any fantasy in it at all. And I didn't "get" the story, either.
