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Le Temps de l'innocence (original 1920; edition 1993)

by Edith Wharton

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Title:Le Temps de l'innocence
Authors:Edith Wharton
Info:Flammarion (1993), Poche, 312 pages
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Rating:****1/2
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The Age of Innocence by Edith Wharton (1920)

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For whatever reason I've recently read a bunch of novels concerning the politics of high society, though in significantly different settings. Balzac's Père Goriot satirized French high society, Proust's In Search of Lost Time vol. 2 continues to explore the subject from the viewpoint of a youth, and I'm currently in the middle of Dreams of Red Mansions vol. 1, which covers the interactions of the Chinese high society. Compared to these other works The Age of Innocence comes off as bland. Newland Archer didn't evoke much sympathy from me, as his torments are crafted by his own hand as much as they are forced upon him by the social structure, and even if that weren't the case certain scenes make it clear that he's an ass (the scene where he envisions the death of his wife comes to mind). Besides Newland the only character drawn with any depth is Olenska, as almost every other character can be reduced to a single character trait, or two at most.

Without an interesting cast of characters a novel such as this could be redeemed by its setting, but this doesn't occur here, as the ostensible setting of New York plays almost no role in the text. The Age of Innocence could just as easily have been set in Philadelphia or Baltimore and there would be no need for any changes beyond place names, and even some cities outside of the United States would work just as well. The New York of yesteryear adds no color to a novel that could use some. The New York of The Great Gatsby stands in stark contrast to the New York on display here, as Gatsby's New York was far more vividly portrayed and more integrated with the story.

The writing is nothing special either, Balzac in translation was better written than Wharton in her native language. Wharton doesn't communicate any personal expertise concerning the world of high society that she portrays, and neither does she comment on that world in an interesting way. She furthermore has the annoying tendency to beat you over the head with the messages and symbolism of her novel. The idea that innocence is not a virtue but a shortcoming, a symptom of naiveté and lack of life experience, is an interesting concept, but the impact of that message is blunted when Wharton spells it out. Oh well, at least the book managed to end in a way that was somewhat interesting.

You're better off rereading The Great Gatsby or some Proust than reading this largely bland novel. ( )
  BayardUS | Dec 10, 2014 |
It was my turn to pick out a book for Book Club - and I choose this one based a half remembered plot line from when I last read it in college. First, the book club members found it difficult, but enjoyed reading it. Second, they found it hard to get into, but rewarding once once got into it. It fostered conversation about society, how society changed, and love vs infatuation.

This isn't an easy read, especially at the beginning of the book - A lot of names, conversations that don't mean what they say, and a difficult to parse language all made for a difficult reading. But once a reader got used to the style, the book became magical. The author manages to make the characters likeable while doing things that are not nice. Also, this society is so strait-laced that it is difficult to live in freedom.

The other aspect of this book is, ultimately, its about society vs individual freedom - Even 90 years later, this is still an important theme and very applicable to today’s world.

This is a book I will be adding to my library. Its also a book I can see myself rereading over and over again. ( )
  TheDivineOomba | Nov 16, 2014 |
I started to compare this to Pride & Prejudice or The Great Gatsby, two other beautifully-written, classic novels that riff on the trivial concerns wealthy members of high society treat with such gravity - but neither of those novels commit to that aspect quite in the way that The Age of Innocence does! Things happen in those novels, while in The Age of Innocence all of the real significance is in what actions are not taken, and what things are left uncommunicated and unknown - the unspoken understandings with (and misunderstandings/Newland's constant underestimation of) Newland's wife, May; Newland's attraction to Ellen Olenska, based primarily on what he doesn't know about her, and how her attitudes and reception reflect on his own life; societal mores and the wordless way they are communicated, described as beautiful in the book's opening pages but compared to a prison as the novel closes...there's so much going on here, but it's all in the blank spaces between the actual actions taking place on the page. It's a very delicate structure to maintain, and I kept waiting to become impatient with or jaded by it, but Wharton really does carry it off! ( )
1 vote okrysmastree | Nov 5, 2014 |
I read Edith Frome a couple of year's ago, but I enjoyed The Age of Innocence much more. I generally do not enjoy novels set in high society. It is not a milieu that I have ever been a part of, and the concerns of the upper class New Yorkers in The Age of Innocence seem somewhat trivial to me. But perhaps it is because Newland Archer at least flirts with breaking free of the constraints of high society that I was drawn to his story. Engaged to May Welland, Newland has an undeniable connection with May's cousin, Countess Ellen Olenska, who has recently returned to New York after leaving her husband. As this love triangle plays out, I found myself being drawn into the story because of Wharton's ability to bring emotion to the page, even in a constrained environment. ( )
  porch_reader | Nov 3, 2014 |
"Newland! Do shut the window. You’ll catch your death.”
He pulled the sash down and turned back. “Catch my death!” he echoed; and he felt like adding: “But I’ve caught it already. I am dead—I’ve been dead for months and months.”


Edith Wharton is a masterful writer, wielding a pen she sharpens to a scalpel-sharp point on 1870s New York society. The book is framed by performances of the opera Faust. At the first, Newland Archer is happily and somewhat smugly anticipating his marriage to the young, innocent May Welland, whose every thought and opinion he is looking forward to shaping, if not outright providing. He is somewhat scandalized when May's family hosts the Countess Ellen Olenska in their box -- this cousin is separated from her husband, a Polish count, and is seeking refuge in New York.

The countess's European sensibilities and unconventionality make her an uncomfortable puzzle for her family: she treats a servant familiarly, visits and befriends social climbers and outcasts, and does not care to live in the "right" neighborhoods. Newland is attracted like a moth. As Newland falls in love with the countess, he comes to perceive the smallness and rigidity of their New York world, and is powerless in the face of it. Ellen is determined to preserve her independence, to live life as she chooses, and as Newland realizes this, he understands that his future with May is one of convention, propriety, and suffocation. May in her turn is smooth and pleasant on the surface, and deftly manipulative underneath. Near the book's end, Newland attends another performance of Faust, reflecting how he has utterly changed, yet sentenced to a life of stifling sameness. This book made me deeply uncomfortable -- it is pervasively sad, and utterly fascinating.
1 vote AMQS | Oct 23, 2014 |
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So how can Edith Wharton’s The Age of Innocence possibly be the greatest New York novel of all time? Well, it is. It builds itself, obsessively, out of all the essential New York themes.
 
The appearance of such a book as "The Age of Innocence" by an American is a matter for public rejoicing. It is one of the best novels of the twentieth century and looks like a permanent addition to literature.
 

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On a January evening of the early seventies, Christine Nilsson was singing in Faust at the Academy of Music in New York.
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And he felt himself oppressed by this creation of factitious purity, so cunningly manufactured by a conspiracy of mothers and aunts and grandmothers and long-dead ancestresses, because it was supposed to be what he wanted, what he had a right to, in order that he might exercise his lordly pleasure in smashing it like an image made of snow.
It was the old New York way of taking life" without effusion of blood": the way of people who dreaded scandal more than disease, who placed decency above courage, and who considered that nothing was more ill-bred than "scenes", except the behavior of those who gave rise to them.
When he thought of Ellen Olenska it was abstractly, serenely, as one might think of some imaginary beloved in a book or a picture: she had become the composite vision of all that he had missed.
"That terrifying product of the social system he belonged to and believed in, the young girl who knew nothing and expected everything, looked back at him like a stranger through May Welland's familiar features; and once more it was borne in on him that marriage was not the safe anchorage he had been taught to think, but a voyage on uncharted seas."
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In the conformist, closed world of upper-class New York, Newland Archer anticipates his marriage to May Welland, a young girl "who knew nothing and expected everything". Into this ordered arrangement bursts May's cousin, Ellen, the mysterious and exotic Countess Olenska, on the run from an appallingly unhappy marriage. She alternately captivates and outrages the New York milieu and, as Newland's sympathy for her deepens into love, he not only gains insight into the brutality of society's treatment of women, but discovers the real anguish of loving outside its rules. Critical, compassionate, and acutely perceptive about both the individual and the defensiveness of society, The Age of Innocence is perhaps Edith Wharton's finest work.
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Somewhere in this book, Wharton observes that clever liars always come up with good stories to back up their fabrications, but that really clever liars don't bother to explain anything at all. This is the kind of insight that makes The Age of Innocence so indispensable. Wharton's story of the upper classes of Old New York, and Newland Archer's impossible love for the disgraced Countess Olenska, is a perfectly wrought book about an era when upper-class culture in this country was still a mixture of American and European extracts, and when "society" had rules as rigid as any in history.

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Newland Archer begins to question the values of high society in Victorian New York when he finds himself torn between two very different women--his proper young fiancee and her exotic cousin.

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