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will love Sign up for LibraryThing to find out whether you'll like this book. This is pretty insightful if you can get past the obvious biases of the author. I've found that there isn't any such thing as an unbiased account so it doesn't really bother me. I mainly got this due to the section on Rorke's Drift, but found the rest of it quite interesting as well. I was disappointed by the essentially triumphalist storyline that ran throughout this book. Ultimately, he does not make good on substantiating his assertion that the Western tradition of dissent, importance on intentiveness and adaptation, the concept of citizenship produced superior arms and soldiers. The battle descriptions are confusing and written in a colloquial manner that does not do justice to the seriousness of the subject. Interesting juxtaposition to Diamond's Guns, Germs, and Steel - why has "Western" culture been so historically dominant in so many influential military conflicts, and how does this help to explain the "Western World's" current (or at least, recent) pre-eminence? 3852. Carnage and Culture: Landmark Battles in the Rise of Western Power, by Victor Davis Hanson (read 29 Jan 2004) I read this because John Keegan in his so interesting 3-hour interview on C-SPAN in December said good things about the author. Hanson examines 9 battles between "Western" and non-Western forces, ranging from Salamis on Sept 28, 480 B.C. through Alexander's victory at Gaugamela (known to Creasy as Arbela) on Oct. 1, 331 B.C., thru Cannae on Aug. 2, 216 B.C., Poitiers on Oct 11, 732, Cortez's victory in Mexico (1520-1521), Lepanto (Oct 7, 1571, Rorke's Drift (Jan 22-23, 1879), Midway (June 4-8, 1942), and Tet in Vietnam in Jan-Feb 1968. Much of what he says makes sense but I did not find his pontificating ad infinitum to be very interesting at times, and while I will read more John Keegan I have no present intention to read any more by Victor Davis Hanson even though he has the three names necessary for a serious historian. 0.043 seconds to build listing no reviews | add a review
Amazon.com Amazon.com's Best of 2001 (ISBN 0385720386, Paperback)Many theories have been offered regarding why Western culture has spread so successfully across the world, with arguments ranging from genetics to superior technology to the creation of enlightened economic, moral, and political systems. In Carnage and Culture, military historian Victor Hanson takes all of these factors into account in making a bold, and sure to be controversial, argument: Westerners are more effective killers. Focusing specifically on military power rather than the nature of Western civilization in general, Hanson views war as the ultimate reflection of a society's character: "There is…a cultural crystallization in battle, in which the insidious and more subtle institutions that heretofore are murky and undefined became stark and unforgiving in the finality of organized killing."Though technological advances and superior weapons have certainly played a role in Western military dominance, Hanson posits that cultural distinctions are the most significant factors. By bringing personal freedom, discipline, and organization to the battlefield, powerful "marching democracies" were more apt to defeat non-Western nations hampered by unstable governments, limited funding, and intolerance of open discussion. These crucial differences often ensured victory even against long odds. Greek armies, for instance, who elected their own generals and freely debated strategy were able to win wars even when far outnumbered and deep within enemy territory. Hanson further argues that granting warriors control of their own destinies results in the kind of glorification of horrific hand-to-hand combat necessary for true domination. The nine battles Hanson examines include the Greek naval victory against the Persians at Salamis in 480 B.C., Cortes's march on Mexico City in 1521, the battle of Midway in 1942, and the 1968 Tet Offensive in Vietnam. In the book's fascinating final chapter, he then looks forward and ponders the consequences of a complete cultural victory, challenging the widespread belief that democratic nations do not wage war against one another: "We may well be all Westerners in the millennium to come, and that could be a very dangerous thing indeed," he writes. It seems the West will always seek an enemy, even if it must come from within. --Shawn Carkonen (retrieved from Amazon Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:58:20 -0400) The first test round has been closed. Visit the Open Shelves Classification group for details. |
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According to Hanson, Western values such as freedom, rationalism, and open dissent are a particulary lethal mix as the West has engaged in warfare. Even when non-Western societies win the occasional victory when warring against the West, it is only a temporary setback and the non-Western culture is dependent of Western tactics, technology, and has no inclination to fight to totally vanquish their foe. Therefore, the "Western way of war" will ultimately prevail. Hanson is careful to point out that Western warfare is not necessarily more (or less) moral than war as practiced by other cultures; but his argument posits that the "Western way of war" is unequalled in its devastation and decisiveness.
Nine battles illustrate a particular aspect of Western culture that Hanson believes contributes to the dominance of Western warfare: the Battle of Salamis 480 BCE, where the Greeks fought as a "free citizens," the Battle of Gaugamela 331 BCE in the decisive battle of annihilation, the Battle of Cannae 216 BCE emphasizing civic militarism, the Battle of Tours/Poitiers 732 CE and the concentration of infantry, the Battle of Tenochtitlan 1521 CE where technology and reason prevailed, the Battle of Lepanto 1571 or a victory for capitalism, the Battle of Rorke's Drift 1879 where British discipline held sway, the Battle of Midway 1942 demonstrating individualism, and the Tet Offensive 1968 where American dissent rose to the fore.
One of the biggest surprises of the book is the numerical superiority of the Americans during Tet. The Americans felt as though they lost though Hanson points out that the Vietcong were really decimated in the American counter-offensive. The work is an important corrective to the current American penchant for defeatism. Not surprisingly then, Hanson argues that the current American conflicts against insurgency and terrorism can result in an American victory.