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None. “Well, what do the slanderers say? They shall be my prosecutors, and I will sum up their words in an affidavit: 'Socrates is an evil-doer, and a curious person, who searches into things under the earth and in heaven, and he makes the worse appear the better cause; and he teaches the aforesaid doctrines to others.' Such is the nature of the accusation: it is just what you have yourselves seen in the comedy of Aristophanes (Aristoph., Clouds.), who has introduced a man whom he calls Socrates, going about and saying that he walks in air, and talking a deal of nonsense concerning matters of which I do not pretend to know either much or little—not that I mean to speak disparagingly of any one who is a student of natural philosophy...... As little foundation is there for the report that I am a teacher, and take money; this accusation has no more truth in it than the other... a man who is good for anything ought not to calculate the chance of living or dying; he ought only to consider whether in doing anything he is doing right or wrong—acting the part of a good man or of a bad." Plato’s version of Socrates’ confession during the latter’s death trial (399BC) insinuates Aristophanes to be a conservative thinker, an affirmation later established during the play. Although several of Aristophanes’ works are a philosophical think-tank debating the validity of orthodoxy dogmas, his rebuttal to Socrates’ Western philosophy stemmed from the argument discourse on atheism (a grave offence in the 5th century) and deficient holistic theoretical rearing. Aristophanes’ dismissal of the ‘sophists’ philosophy outweighing traditional values by means of scientific reasons was acutely delineated through lampooning caricatures of Socrates and his school of reasoning. Thus, portraying Socrates as a dangerously hypnotic figure of modern values which could be detrimental to a just society; the complete idea of “one man’s virtue, other man’s vice” being ridiculed. Despair, without which happiness would never be the nectar of the heart, is a demon mocking melancholic cries; a curse to human soul. The burden of his son’s gallivanting debts deprives Strepsiades from peaceful nightly reveries. He laments the day he got married, the root of his misery –Phidippides, his son. Anxious about his escalating financial woes, Strepsiades relentlessly pleads his son to acquire eloquent verbal skills as a plausible defensive method to escape the problematical debt. In a turn of unfortunate events, Strepsiades takes utmost responsibility of eradicating the prevailing misery by enrolling in the “thinking” school presided by Socrates himself. Kierkegaard in his moralistically aesthetic tome articulates, “Aren’t people absurd! They never use freedom they do have but demand those they don’t have; they have freedom of thought they demand freedom of speech”. How truthfully one can assert these words to be, rightfully in the case of Strepsiades! A man ridden with monetary obligations to his lenders chooses to escape his moral responsibility by sheltering his shortcomings in the veil of eloquent orations; Strepsiades comes forth as a desperate man, yet, a coward to own up to his follies and chooses the art of glib as his weapon to envelop the quarters of corrupt thoughts. When questioned by Socrates on how would he win his case without any witnesses, Strepsiades resorts to the absurdity of abducting the moon through witchcraft; an obnoxious notion of lunacy and if vulnerably cornered he would kill himself as no can prosecute a dead man. Aristophanes satire screams the deviant tactics used by numerous scamming actors in various walks of life. The bankruptcy claims filed by corporate giants and public figures in bid to escape grave punishments are personified through Strep’s each irresponsible procedures. The question of suicide being the remedy of a defenseless acquittal however is debatable over humane grounds of self- sacrifice, though not escaping the cowardice stigma. On the other hand Phidippides, the carefree youth who initially mocks the Sophists for their preposterous sermons, ultimately succumbs to sophistry fluency exercising the training on his own father. Aristophanes’ handling of Phidi’s education as a metaphor exposes the intricacies of Socrates’ Western philosophy; the assault of Strep by Phidi rationalizing the violence as a equalized moralistic chastisement affirms Aristophanes’ fear of scholastic radicalism despite the fact that it implies the Aristophanes very proposal of challenging stagnated principles. Soren Kierkegaard in Conspiracy of Irony esteems Aristophanes for his meticulous portrayal of a sardonic Socrates;" It is of importance first of all to be satisfied that the Socrates brought on stage by Aristophanes is the actual Socrates. Just as ancient tradition fortifies this conviction, there are various traits found in this play that either are historically certain or at least prove to be altogether analogous to what we otherwise know about Socrates." This seems a bit incongruous as both these thinkers stand under the same existentialists umbrellas. Further, the scene where Strepsiades derides Socrates for hanging mid-air cuddled in a basket questioning the validity of GOD ;uttering the inferential ‘Clouds’ to be superior (as events of thunderstorms, rains, etc...are scientifically proven to be the effects of evaporation rather than miracles) affirms the skepticism over Socrates ironical works. As Kierkegaard surmises,“The ironist, to be sure, is lighter than the world, but on the other hand he still belongs to the world like Mohammed’s coffin, he is suspended between the two magnets”; a perfect case for Socrates mid-air illusion of looking down on Gods yet somehow he remains attached to the ground- earth. Speaking of ironical suppositions, one cannot overlook the emphasis on the Socratic Method used in the initial stages of Strepsiades enrollment in the “thinking” school; two opposite views pitted against in a series of debates to extract the beliefs and stance on an exacting issue. Soc. And for what did you come? Strep. Wishing to learn to speak; for by reason of usury, and most ill-natured creditors, I am pillaged and plundered, and have my goods seized for debt. Soc. How did you get in debt without observing it? Strep. A horse-disease consumed me—terrible at eating. But teach me the other one of your two causes, that which pays nothing; and I will swear by the gods, I will pay down to you whatever reward you exact of me. Soc. By what gods will you swear? For, in the first place, gods are not a current coin with us. Strep. By what do you swear? By iron money, as in Byzantium? Soc. Do you wish to know clearly celestial matters, what they rightly are? Strep. Yes, by Jupiter, if it be possible! Similar concept is applied in the powering dispute between the ‘Just’ and ‘Unjust’ regarding the establishment of the education system. At this juncture, Aristophanes does not fail to impress the reader with his strong views on a holistic education. Rationalizing the need for a traditional yet, liberal education, he addresses his ideas through the ‘Just’ mouthpieces criticizing the “new unjust education” of slippery rhetoric and murky morals. Satirizing orthodox teachings Aristophanes elucidates the dire need to challenge longstanding societal decree, whilst adhering to moralistic virtues, an ignorant aspect with the sophist’s radicalism. Strepsiades setting fire to the school, the flea ridden bed onto which Socrates shoves Strepsiades, the thrashing of a father by his son on moralistic grounds, speaks volumes of Aristophanes’ disdain for scientifically rationalized atheist edification. Thus, it can be carefully deduced that the lampooning of Socrates and his methods was for the very reason of Aristophanes dreading that “know thyself” existentialism might take a sinister turn; a fear of sinners becoming saints. Aristophanes not only subjects Socrates’ philosophical teachings to logical reasoning, but criticizes his contemporary methods to impart the virtues of good and evil. The satire which now seems more to be a battle between the sophists and realists rather than a frantic solution to a father’s debt problems, encircles each controversial issue from religion, education and moralistic corruption. Lastly, ‘The Chorus of Clouds’; the finality of Aristophanes’ hypothetical dogma. The symbolism of clouds bore utmost responsibility in diagnosis of Socrates atheist beliefs debating the eternal dilemma of religion v/s science as well become the voice of the writer; primarily being the voice of scientific validation, and in due course substituting as a virtuous mediator imparting the repercussions of ‘karma’; a boomeranging bitch that chants the "reap what you sow" hymn. Cho. What a thing it is to love evil courses! For this old man, having loved them, wishes to withhold the money that he borrowed. And he will certainly meet with something today, which will perhaps cause this sophist to suddenly receive some misfortune, in return for the knaveries he has begun. For I think that he will presently find what has been long boiling up, that his son is skillful to speak opinions opposed to justice, so as to overcome all with whomsoever he holds converse, even if he advance most villainous doctrines; and perhaps, perhaps his father will wish that he were even speechless. “A choice is a radical one. And its radicalness still lies in the total redefining of the values of a human life. It is important to realize the compass of the redefinition. It isn't a matter simply of turning over a new leaf; the choice of oneself means rewriting the whole book.” Taking Kierkegaard’s expressions in perspective I wonder if it is ever possible to live an aesthetically moral life or we as human are compelled to make a choice weighing the pros and cons that life throws at us. And, if undermining traditional values was detrimental to a well-organized social order then saints would eventually become sinners. STORY: A farmer named Strepsiades wants to get out of debt. So he recruits his son to become a student of Socrates at the school called The Thinkery. Strepsiades believes if his son can learn rhetoric, then he'll be able to use his skill to get rid of his creditors. His son’s education doesn't go initially as planned but in the end they made amends. HISTORY: The play was written in a time (423 BC) when Athens was experiencing turbulent intellectual change. Education, ethics, rhetoric, science and religion were being challenged. In philosophy, some people thought the sophist were corrupting old Athenian social and moral values. They viewed the skill of rhetoric as a way to get around the law for their own personal gain. Like The Frogs, there is this tension between the old and new ideology. SOCRATES: In the play, Socrates is a composite character of intellectuals and leading sophists of the time. The Clouds was written twenty-six years before the trial of Socrates, but if we believe Plato, it may have been a source of prejudice used against Socrates at his trial. This is questionable since Socrates could have left Athens or made different decisions at his trail. So we don’t really know the impact the comedy had on the trial, but at the time of its writing, Socrates wasn't offended by it. OPINION: I don’t know about this one. It wasn't that funny and the humor was too lowbrow. There were too many references to asses, crapping, and farting. I get the point Aristophanes thinks these intellectuals were assholes, there is no mistaking that point, but it was a tad too much. Complicating matters is Aristophanes tendency to criticize everyone and everything, so it is difficult to know the motive behind the comedy. My favorite parts are the scenes with the clouds. I thought these sections were creative, but I didn't want to add a spoiler, so I'll stop there. Fans of Blazing Saddles Will Like This. Rated: B+ The New Lifetime Reading Plan: Number 11a Edition: New Edition // Descr: xii, 104 p. 17.5 cm. // Series: Clarendon Press Series Call No. { 882 A4 4 } With Introduction and Notes by W.W. Merry Contains Index. // // no reviews | add a review Is contained inEleven Plays of the Greek Dramatists by Aeschylus; Sophocles; Euripides and Aristophanes Eight Great Comedies by Sylvan Barnet The Complete Plays of Aristophanes by Aristophanes Aristophanes: Clouds. Wasps. Peace (Loeb Classical Library No. 488) by Aristophanes 2 Plays: Birds / Clouds by Aristophanes 2 Plays: Clouds / Frogs by Aristophanes 2 Plays: Clouds / Knights by Aristophanes 2 Plays: Clouds / Wealth by Aristophanes 3 Plays: Acharnians / Clouds / Knights by Aristophanes 3 Plays: Acharnians / Clouds / Lysistrata by Aristophanes 3 Plays: Assembly-Women / Clouds / Wasps by Aristófanes 3 Plays: Birds / Clouds / Frogs by Aristophanes 3 Plays: Birds / Clouds / Knights by Aristophanes 3 Plays: Birds / Clouds / Lysistrata by Aristophanes 3 Plays: Birds / Clouds / Wasps by Aristophanes 3 Plays: Clouds / Frogs / Wealth by Aristófanes 3 Plays: Clouds / Lysistrata / Wealth by Aristophanes 3 Plays: Clouds / Wealth / Women at the Thesmophoria by Aristophanes 4 Plays: Acharnians / Birds / Clouds / Lysistrata by Aristophanes 4 Plays: Acharnians / Birds / Clouds / Wasps by Aristophanes 4 Plays: Acharnians / Clouds / Knights / Wasps by Aristophanes 4 Plays: Birds / Clouds / Frogs / Lysistrata by Aristophanes 4 Plays: Birds / Clouds / Frogs / Wasps by Aristophanes 4 Plays: Clouds / Frogs / Wasps / Women at the Thesmophoria by Aristophanes 5 Plays: Acharnians / Clouds / Knights / Peace / Wasps by Aristophanes 5 Plays: Birds / Clouds / Frogs / Lysistrata / Wasps by Aristophanes 5 Plays: Birds / Clouds / Frogs / Wasps / Women at the Thesmophoria by Aristophanes 6 Plays: Acharnians / Birds / Clouds / Knights / Peace / Wasps by Aristophanes 6 Plays: Acharnians / Clouds / Knights / Peace / Wealth / Wasps by Aristophanes 8 Plays: Assembly-Women / Birds / Clouds / Frogs / Lysistrata / Peace / Wasps / Women at the Thesmophoria by Aristophanes Aristophanes : Erster Band by Aristophanes World Drama: An Anthology, Vol. 1: Ancient Greece, Rome, India, China, Japan, Medieval Europe, and England by Barrett H. Clark The Plays of Aristophanes Vol. 2 the Frogs and Three Other Plays by Aristophanes Four Texts on Socrates: Plato's Euthyphro, Apology, and Crito and Aristophanes' Clouds by Thomas G. West Has as a student's study guide
Amazon.com Product Description (ISBN 0941051242, Paperback)This is an English translation of Aristophanes' famous comedy, Clouds, noted for its critique of philosophy, society and education. It includes essays on Old Comedy and the Theater of Dionysus, suggestions for further reading, notes on production, and a map. Focus Classical Library provides close translations with notes and essays to provide access to understanding Greek culture. (retrieved from Amazon Thu, 14 Feb 2013 13:29:21 -0500) No library descriptions found. |
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On to the plot: This play is not about atmospheric condensation, as I had hoped. Instead, it is about bashing mankind's obsession with laws and rules. And breaking them whenever it suits us. As much as we do love to go on about 'right' and 'wrong', on the whole, what we really care about is what makes us richer, smarter (looking), and more impressive to our neighbor. And when that fails, we slam the habits of the other guy (in this case, the personal habits of Socrates are mocked).
Just for the record, I actually read the Moses Hadas translation. Loved his use of rhyming, which probably suggests that it is only appropriate for silly people like myself, who still retain a fondness for nursery rhymes.
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