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Paradise Lost and Paradise Regained (Signet Classics) (edition 2010)

by John Milton, Christopher Ricks (Editor), Susanne Woods (Introduction), Fay Weldon (Afterword)

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Title:Paradise Lost and Paradise Regained (Signet Classics)
Authors:John Milton
Other authors:Christopher Ricks (Editor), Susanne Woods (Introduction), Fay Weldon (Afterword)
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Screw you, Paradise Lost! *fist shaking*

Ok, now that that is out of my system, let me tell you: reading this epic poem with my book group at Goodreads has been one of the most frustrating literary experiences of my life. So when I say "screw you, PL" I only kind of mean PL. I also mean, insane book club people. I am never moderating a discussion on a theological anything, ever, ever, ever. Ugh.

MOVING ON.

Paradise Lost is a 17th century epic poem about the fall of Adam and Eve and their expulsion from the garden of Eden. Milton states the whole purpose of the poem in the first book quite conveniently (how's that for stated authorial intent): "That to the heighth of this great Argument/ I may assert Eternal Providence,/ And justify the ways of God to men." Italics mine, obvi. SO. That's no easy task, telling the story of the fall of mankind and justifying God's role in it. And I'm just going to say it: Milton fails at this in a bad, bad way.

Ok, let's get all these bits out of the way: Yes, I'm a modern reader, and a modern Christian, so my theology is obviously going to be different from a 17th century Puritan. But the whole poem is based on like four chapters in Genesis, so how wrong can he be? Well, all sortsa wrong. He just straight makes stuff up. HERE'S a bad idea: Take it upon yourself to justify someone's actions, and instead of taking what he did and talking about it, make up some stuff he didn't do in order to make him look better, but just succeed in making him look worse in the eyes of the people who know the person and in the eyes of the people who would like to throw the person into a vat of very hot acid.

I don't want to get into the theology of why I disagree with Milton's picture of God- I don't want to start some kind of Biblical flame war here. Let's just say, he doesn't really stick to the source text. In doing so, he presents a very damaging and inaccurate picture of God that in no way "justifies" Him, and in fact, makes Him sort of gross to believers and non-believers alike.

It's also sort of boring. There are three books in the poem that are at all interesting: the book about Satan's fall, the book where Satan tempts Eve, and the book after where Adam and Eve realize what they've done. These books are action packed. Interesting. Innovative. Most of the other books are conversations (and I mean ONLY dialogue. In epic poem form. Stabmeintheeye) between God and angels, or Adam and angels.

Milton uses these conversations to present his personal theological beliefs about monism, which is an obscure belief about the universality of divine matter or...something. Milton was also heavily involved in the English civil war, and began writing PL after its failure, which, you know. Pissed him off. So he shoves a lot of angry political sentiments into the poem as well. Then he adds some heavy-handed classical references through the WHOLE THING because he's a smarty pants and would like everyone to know it. You quickly realize that the poem has little to do with "justifying God" and everything to do with "justifying Milton."

But, the poetry is really beautiful, if that makes you feel better. Otherwise, it's just a fancy failure. Francis Bacon sums up my feelings about this work quite nicely: he says that John Milton "was a true poet, and of the Devil's party without knowing it."

Three stars out of your mom. ( )
2 vote deadwhiteguys | Jul 28, 2012 |
Truly inspiring. If you told me 10 years ago that I would love teaching these poems, I'd have laughed in your face. But Milton has a beautiful way of taking a few, sparse Bible verses and turning them into a human narrative that you can understand and relate to. Book Three of Paradise Lost is, in my opinion, nothing short of inspired genius. ( )
1 vote MissWoodhouse1816 | Jan 29, 2012 |
Paradise Lost is an epic poem in the same tradition of Homer, Virgil, Dante and Shakespeare. Milton, like many of his time, wrote about (or against) religion, thus incurring the wrath of the church. It doesn't matter, though, for Milton's account of the fall of man is far better than Gensis. Although it may be hard to read, it should be read-- especially because it sparked Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy. I read Paradise Lost alongside His Dark Materials in order to get a clear picture of the main story and the deviations each author took. ( )
1 vote 06nwingert | Nov 3, 2010 |
John Milton's Paradise Lost is a monumental poem that crystallizes the basic Christian doctrines of Creation, Satan's rebellion, humanity's Fall, and the prophesied Savior who would redeem His people — and does it all with a gripping story told in powerful language. Because of its immense scope and imagination, Paradise Lost has served for centuries as a jumping-off place for other writers working through these doctrines and ideas to create art in the Western context. It's a work I have been meaning to read for some time, and it did not disappoint.

All I knew of Milton before coming to this poem was the oft-quoted "Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav'n," one of the most succinct descriptions of Satan that I've ever read. So on a purely stylistic level, Milton was very new to me. But as a Christian, I was very familiar with the poem's subject matter, and found it a rich experience to read. I think that my faith added an extra dimension to the poem; for me, the characters are fictionalized representations of real beings, the events described really did happen, and the ramifications affect me personally. Wow! I was again and again surprised by the utter believability with which Milton realizes his characters, working from the spare narrative laid out in Scripture. Paradise Lost is a Christian wandering through his vast doctrines, goggling at them, and turning his mind to make art of them. This "subcreation" is an act of worship.

And the implications have been profound for Christian thinkers and writers ever since. C. S. Lewis was a big fan of the poem, and I could see many places where it influenced him, even in little things. For instance, there is a flattering councillor in Lewis' Prince Caspian named "Glozelle" — and here "glozing" is a verb used in the poem for "flattering." Another character's name, Fledge, means "feathered," and this is perfect because the character is a winged horse. I love this stuff! The whole idea behind The Screwtape Letters and Our Father Below must have had its inspiration in the scenes of Satan and his followers taking counsel together how best to defeat God. And Milton's descriptions of Hell certainly turned Lewis' thoughts in the direction that led to The Great Divorce. I'm sure there are many more connections that escaped me on this my first read, but it was fun to find the ones I did.

Paradise Lost is a classic in that it continues to spark controversy among academics to this day, with multiple interpretations hotly debated. Much has been made of William Blake's view, that Milton is "of the Devil's party without knowing it," that he unconsciously admires Satan and portrays him as a sympathetic character. I think this is a valid reading, as the story begins with Satan and spends a lot of time with him. He is evil and heartless and depraved, but there is something grand in his tragic defiance, something oddly powerful. I felt that pull, too.

There is another school of thought that argues that Milton's seemingly heroic depiction of Satan is deliberate, as a mirror to the attraction Satan naturally has for sinful humans. This theory holds that when we are drawn to Milton's Satan, we are displaying our human tendency to be deceived. This is probably where I come down, because of my background. We filter everything through our presuppositions. Milton may very well have been an unconscious admirer of Satan's grand rebellion, but for me this confirms that part of us that always wants to rebel. Our art is not free of it — and Satan would not be nearly so effective if he wasn't wily and beautiful (and not just to Adam and Eve). Naturally the notion that Satan is deceptively attractive to us because we are easily deceived isn't popular among non-Christians. I can understand why many readers embrace the idea that Satan is the real hero of the poem; there's evidence for it, definitely. But I see textual support for the other view as well, and where you fall (ha) is dependent on your personal theology.

And then there is the problem of Eve. I found Milton unfair in his treatment of Eve, blaming her for Adam's fall and making Adam all noble in his sacrifice to eat the apple. Good grief, Adam wasn't tempted by a master deceiver as Eve was, and still he ate! There was nothing noble about it, and indeed in Scripture original sin is attributed to Adam, not Eve. I know there is the criticism that in Christian doctrine, woman is always inferior to man, the scapegoat and bearer of shame, the dark side of humanity. Maybe some of this comes from Milton, who later in the poem brings out his "Fair Atheists," the loose women who tempt godly men to sin. Because women are pure evil, of course. But as a Christian myself (yes, I know I'm totally biased, but so is everyone), I think the opposite is true: the Bible talks about sin entering the world through one man (Adam), with no mention of Eve at all as the principal scapegoat. This creates a parallel in Christ, the perfect Man who brought us righteousness. So Adam is noble and self-sacrificing in his sin? — yeah right. He gets off way too easily in the poem, if you ask me.

Milton gets his theology a bit skewed again in Paradise Regained. Satan gets an inordinate share of the limelight. Paradise is regained via the battle with Satan that Christ wins — instead of the ultimate test of Christ's obedience, the Cross. I understand that there is a parallel between Satan's temptations of Eve/Adam and Christ; indeed, this is a core doctrine of the Christian faith, that Christ should triumph where we failed. But it wasn't Satan that Christ died to save us from. Christ died to take our share of the Father's wrath. Satan is not God's executioner, partying down in Hell. And Christ's resistance to Satan's temptations did not save us, though it was necessary. Paradise was not truly regained until the Cross and Resurrection. I wish Milton had treated those subjects too!

I think what surprised me most about reading this poem was the utter fun of it. I loved the language — who wouldn't rejoice in a line like "Of all his flattering Prophets glibb'd with lies"? I loved the immense scope of the thing, the visualizations of Chaos and Hell and the Garden, of the war in Heaven and its final conclusion. How great, to listen in on imagined conversations between the Father and the Son taking counsel with one another — and of course Satan doing the same with his consorts in Hell. I was also surprised (though I shouldn't have been, I suppose) at the constant allusions to classical mythology, with all those mythical gods being referred to as real. I know a lot of secular readers will be laughing at me because to them, *all* the characters in the poem are mythological. But hear me out — it's fascinating because it demonstrates a fusion between the pagan and Christian. I personally love it because it is pagan ideas being used in service of the Christian God; fragments of truth in world legends redeemed, to paraphrase Lewis. But even without my bias, it's fascinating to see these disparate stories being woven together.

So should you read Paradise Lost? Absolutely! Sure, there is a lot of archaic language and the sentences can go on for pages and pages, but if you can get past that and into the alien feel of the poem, looking at the vastness of its landscape and the craziness of its characters, you can enjoy it. It isn't just a work for the academics to wrangle over. Non-Christians can get a lot out of it too, because Christianity is foundational to Western culture and so has affected the world. Paradise Lost is an important poem with far-reaching influence, but besides all that it is a rich reading experience in itself. I enjoyed it very much. ( )
14 vote wisewoman | Feb 14, 2010 |
I cannot extol this book in equal to what it deserves but I suggest that it is read it aloud while meandering about. ( )
  ohdeus | Aug 23, 2008 |
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Of man's first disobedience, and the fruit
Of that forbidden tree whose mortal taste
Brought death into the World, and all our woe,
With loss of Eden, till one greater Man
Restore us, and regain the blissful Seat,
Sing, Heavenly Muse, that, on the secret top
of Oreb, or of Sinai, didst inspire
That Shepherd who first taught the chosen seed
In the beginning how heavens and earth
Rose out of Chaos: or, if Shion hill
Delight thee more and, and Siloa's brook that flowed
Fast by the oracle of God, I thence
Invoke thy aid to my adventrous song,
That with no middle flight intends to soar
Above the Aonian mount, while it pursues
Thing unattempted yet in prose of rhyme.
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Free, and to none accountable, preferring
Hard liberty before the easy yoke
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Amazon.com Product Description (ISBN 0451527925, Mass Market Paperback)

Here in one volume are the complete texts of two of the greatest epic poems in English literature, each a profound exploration of the moral problems of God's justice. They demonstrate Milton's genius for classicism and innovation, narrative and drama-and are a grand example of what Samuel Johnson called his "peculiar power to astonish."

Edited by Christopher Ricks
With a New Introduction by Dr. Susanne Woods

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