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Topics messages Last message Romance - from historical to contemporary : What are you reading - week of Nov. 9, 2009 35 marietherese , Today 8:09pm
Club Read 2009 : booksontrial's 50 book reviews in 2009 78 booksontrial , Today 6:52pm
Audiobooks : is listening to ancient texts like The Iliad easier? 6 booksontrial , Today 6:28pm
A Pearl of Wisdom and Enlightenment : Books on Wisdom and Enlightenment. 72 ecohealth2003 , Yesterday 5:48pm
25 Books in 2009 : CalamityK books for 2009 66 CalamityK , Friday 2:14pm
999 Challenge : ladyc72385: 999 challenge 118 christina_reads , Friday 9:57am
Audiobooks : Reading vs. Listening 41 karenmarie , Thursday 8:35am
50 Book Challenge : Voracious_Reader 35 Voracious_Reader , Tuesday 4:41pm
Folio Society devotees : Triumphs? 65 AlexAustin , Tuesday 8:33am
50 Book Challenge : callen610's -2009 115 callen610 , November 8
Science Fiction Fans : Old Sci-Fi Books 49 Annodyne , November 7
Le Salon Litteraire du Peuple pour le Peuple : Your personal top 10 all time favorites list(s) 289 tomcatMurr , November 5
Dewey Decimal Challenge : lorax jumps in 54 fundevogel , November 4
Book talk : 20 Year 1000 Book Challenge 62 LesMiserables , November 4
History: On learning from and writing history : History Books: New, General, etc. 32 TLCrawford , November 4
Librarians who LibraryThing : Funny Requests from patrons 591 E.S. , November 4
LC Classification Challenge : lorax's LoC challenge 39 lorax , November 3
History: On learning from and writing history : The Iliad 17 Urquhart , November 2
75 Books Challenge for 2009 : RebeccaAnn's Reading: Part Deux 110 alcottacre , November 1
Hogwarts Express : DId you know... 102 MrAndrew , October 28
999 Challenge : TBQ'S 26 The_Book_Queen , October 25
History at 30,000 feet: The Big Picture : Making Time for Homer 32 Garp83 , October 25
100 Books Challenge for 2009 : merry10's 2009 reading 99 englishrose60 , October 24
Awful Lit. : Books to be struck from HS reading lists! 263 dukeallen , October 22
What Are You Reading Now? : 2009 WHAT BOOK ARE YOU READING? 187 thanuj2409 , October 19
Recommend Site Improvements : Date of edition vs. date of original publication? 29 vpfluke , October 17
Dewey Decimal Challenge : BooksOnTrial Meets Dewey 9 booksontrial , October 15
999 Challenge : ReneeMarie's 999 102 bruce_krafft , October 14
Homer, the Trojan war, and pre-classical Greece : Reading Homer 13 Garp83 , October 10
Club Read 2009 : Questions about Translations 32 booksontrial , October 5
The Green Dragon : Top 5 on your TBR list 78 Shanra , October 3
Reading Great Books : Great Books I Want to Read 18 zechristof , September 26
Pro and Con : Sibel Edmonds comes clean 9 codyed , September 25
The Green Dragon : September Reads 2009 91 calm , September 22
Literary Snobs : Personal message board 334 CliffBurns , September 14
50 Book Challenge : belva; 3rd times a charm 216 whitewavedarling , September 13
LC Classification Challenge : pamdis lc challenge 2 pamdis , September 12
Folio Society devotees : A Classical Education 103 PeterGreen , September 8
The Green Dragon : August Reads 2009 181 Billion , September 1
What Are You Reading Now? : What Are You Reading the Week of August 22, 2009? 268 FicusFan , August 29
Book talk : A Separate Peace - Removal from Required Reading List 15 emaestra , August 29
Folio Society devotees : The Folio Fifty 11 Irieisa , August 27
50 Book Challenge : Famine's 2009 books 32 Famine , August 25
What Are You Reading Now? : What are you reading the week of August 15, 2009? 286 FicusFan , August 22
100 Books Challenge for 2009 : MissTeacher reads her little eyes out! 120 in 2009! 45 MissTeacher , August 9
What Are You Reading Now? : What are you reading the week of June 27, 2009? 259 ashleywolf , July 28
999 Challenge : An A_Musing A_tempt 24 A_musing , July 28
Folio Society devotees : Myths and Legends checklist 46 petertemplar , July 21
Book talk : Books and characters you can't forget .... 31 grelobe , July 20
Ancient History : Spartans 56 Booksloth , July 19
What Are You Reading Now? : What are you reading the week of July 11, 2009? 268 FicusFan , July 18
What Are You Reading Now? : Share a line or passage from your current book 47 PaperbackPirate , July 17
Folio Society devotees : Dear Mole 68 overthemoon , July 16
LT's list of great books you should read : How to read a book 16 unlucky , July 11
Book talk : Runaways 15 AMQS , July 7
What Are You Reading Now? : What are you reading the week of June 20, 2009? 240 thioviolight , July 6
History: On learning from and writing history : Recent Reads in History: The Great and the Bad 27 wildbill , June 16
What Are You Reading Now? : What You Are Reading the Week of 6-12 June 2009 228 bookymouse , June 14
Homer, the Trojan war, and pre-classical Greece : Odyssey v Iliad 28 walf6 , June 13
Literary Snobs : Cicero - where should I start? 25 LizzieD , June 12
New features : Common Knowledge and your library 78 FicusFan , June 7
History at 30,000 feet: The Big Picture : Ancient Rome or Ancient Greece 133 Garp83 , June 6
LTers with dogs : Where did your dogs name come from 118 jmfonz52 , June 3
The Green Dragon : May Acquisitions 162 kirbyowns , June 2
999 Challenge : MAY 2009: What Are You Reading? 69 BookLizard , June 1
PonyIsland LTers : Little bit quiet here - how about a quick 'currently reading'? 3 Impious , May 29
Audiobooks : What Are You Listening to Now? Part 4 273 alans , May 19
King's Dear Constant Readers : Other writers/books/genres you like? 26 hemlockclock , May 12
Non-Fiction Readers : Why do you read non-fiction? 76 WhisperedDreams , May 9
Geeks who love the Classics : English Translations of Classics 12 slickdpdx , May 7
Geeks who love the Classics : Where to after the Odysesy and the Iliad? 7 Urquhart , May 5
Combiners! : Gospel, Divination and the direction of Combiners 182 BarkingMatt , May 5
History at 30,000 feet: The Big Picture : Why I read history 49 stellarexplorer , April 3
50 Book Challenge : Yarb 21 yarb , April 1
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Literary Snobs : Best books by GENRE 342 kswolff , March 23
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Book talk : How many times will you read the same book? 40 Jayne49 , March 20
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Book talk : There's a Time and a Place for Everything 49 MissTeacher , March 4
What Are You Reading Now? : what is the most important factor when you buy a book 42 rocketjk , March 3
Literary Snobs : Reading Resolutions 2009 123 CliffBurns , February 18
Hogwarts Express : Opinions, please? 36 Renald128 , February 12
75 Books Challenge for 2009 : fantasia655's 2009 reads 213 jade605 , February 10
Ancient History : Brief History Of Ancient Greece 70 Urquhart , February 9
Group Reads - Literature : Next book after Pere Goriot? 65 teelgee , February 5
The Green Dragon : Yet-to-be-finished book series 46 Musereader , January 27
Pro and Con : Books for Obama 11 davidt8 , January 17
50 Book Challenge : First Few Books of 2009 11 davefromnyc , January 10
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50 Book Challenge : Nickelini's 2008 220 bonniebooks , January 8
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I'd recommend the audiobook version of Iliad produced by BlackStone Audio, translated by W.H.D.Rouse and narrated by Anthony Heald. I like Heald's dramatization better than Jacobi's. Rouse' prose translation is also very fluid and easy to follow.
I finished both Iliad and Odyssey on ...
Wow... I've been slacking on updating on our weekly group meme! Dang. Lol.
Well, I'm currently reading:
~The Iliad by Homer (For my 999 Challenge, as well as my Myths and Legends college course. Really, it's not that bad of a book-- much better than the Odyssey!)
~Her Only Desire by Gaelen ...
Ok, so I have at last started The Iliad . It is the Penguin Fagels translation and I am going to try to relax and enjoy it rather than rush it.
About 6 months ago I listened to the audio with Derek Jacobi and it was wonderful, but now I want to savor it at my own pace.
Bernard Knox wrote ...
The shortest known Maori genealogy is longer than the longest one in Homerʻs Iliad .
How could I forget that; wel, I almost did, but for being reminded of it by ChelseBottomnleyʻs 4th "did you know" (#66).
The shortest known Maori genealogy is longer than the longest one in Homerʻs Iliad .
How could I forget that; wel, I almost did, but for being reminded of it by ChelseBottomnleyʻs 4th "did you know" (#66).
... have fascinated me since I listened to them on records called Classics for Children. Now I have six translations of The Iliad and The Odyssey and usually read one of them every year. I am always moved by the stories and usually find something new each time I read one of the books.
M ...
I strongly recommend The Iliad . It's often considered the oldest book of Western Civilization (if you believe there is such a thing)
... Bovary
Anna Karenina
The Idiot
Light in August
Good Soldier Svejk
Pride and Prejudice
Passage to India
Iliad , Odyssey
Huckleberry Finn
Good Soldier
Lord Jim
Franny and Zooey
Grendel
Song of the Lark
Wise Blood
The Outsider
Daring Young Man
No Co ...
Book 33 of 2009
Book 88 in total
88/1000
The Iliad - Homer
... work system is what it is, and one date is being demanded, that's the original publication date for any book combined into Iliad .
... Changes Itself
Blue Ocean Strategy
The Long Tail
700 – Art
Building the Getty
800 – Literature
The Iliad
The Odyssey
900 – History
Traitor to His Class
I am currently re-rearding The Iliad in the Lattimore verse translation (I previously read the Butler prose version) along with A Companion to The Iliad by Malcolm M. Willcock as my nightstand book(s). Taking my time. Relishing it!
Anyone else playing around with Homer these days?
I am currently re-rearding The Iliad in the Lattimore verse translation (I previously read the Butler prose version) along with A Companion to The Iliad by Malcolm M. Willcock as my nightstand book(s). Taking my time. Relishing it!
I have several translations and usually read The Iliad once every one or two years. My current favorite translation is by Stanley Lombardo. Lombardo uses more natural speech and really conveys the power and energy of the poem.
I would definitely classify Achilles as a bad ass with an attitude. ...
Like sgtbigg , I read The Iliad in high school and then again in college (in English, as I cannot read Greek), and as a female teenager and non-classicist, I'm not sure I got that much out of it. I tended to prefer The Odyssey, as it featured journeys and monsters.
I'd've loved to ...
... as saying, " A translation should SOUND LIKE a translation." Thus, the late 19th c. translations of The Odyssey and The Iliad (Lang, Leaf & Myers, and Butcher do "sound like a translation". (Some have said their English --in style, more than in vocabulary-- was influenced by the King Jam ...
800 – Literature
Iliad by Homer
Great War Epic
Imagine camping on a beach on a start-lit night, and as you’re sitting around the camp fire, Homer tells a story of a great war that happened on the very same shore a long, long time ago.
There were warriors as numerous ...
... young prince of Troy, and Cressida, the daughter of a Trojan priest. The action takes place at roughly the same time as the Iliad , if I remember correctly: the Greeks are encamped outside the walls of Troy, Achilles is sulking in his tent, and Greek Agamemnon and Trojan Hector are both trying to ...
Yeah it's appalling but this sort of thing has been going on since the Iliad . See Charlie Wilson's War for a more recent example.
... in the book.
Lately I have been limiting the audiobooks to my fiction reading and it works much better. I am listening to The Iliad and it is nice to hear all of the names pronounced. The translation is by Stanley Lombardo and he does the narration with Susan Sarandon doing the introductions ...
#209--booksontrial, first, I would recommend the Iliad , but many find it quite daunting (including me at one point), especially in the full version. Saroyan's novel is simply another "take" on a familiar story. The Human Comedy is a wonderfully human and humane approach to growing up, or, in ...
... three books you most often recommend, I just read your review of The Human Comedy. It seems like an adaptation of Homer's Iliad . So why not recommend Iliad instead? And what do you like about Little Fuzzy?
#208
Nicely done! Here is a little challenge: Can you use quotations instead of ...
...
LC Special aspects of education: A Student's Guide to Liberal Learning
PA Greek/Latin language and literature: The Illiad
PE English language: The Trivium
PL Languages and literatures of Eastern Asia, A
frica, Oceania: Soul mountain
PN Literature (General): How to Read a Boo ...
I decided to (temporarily) put The Iliad aside in favour of Jane Eyre, as I felt more like nineteenth century prose than epic poetry. Unfortunately, I've been so busy with work that I'm having trouble concentrating on the novel. It's taking me forever to read.
I figure I'll follow OldSarge's example and start The Iliad next. I've been meaning to read it for ages now, and The Woman in White put me in the mood for more classic literature. (Not that the two books are even remotely similar...)
... one individual may not "get" them is not to the point--the majority of literate people still appreciate The Odyssey and The Iliad , the Divine Comedy, The Canterbury Tales, Hamlet, Pride and Prejudice, Great Expectations, etc. These works have engendered progeny--some ephemeral, ...
Iliad by Homer
Imagine camping on a beach on a start-lit night, and as you’re sitting around the camp fire, Homer tells a story of a great war that happened on the very same shore a long, long time ago.
There were warriors as numerous as the stars in the heaven and grains of sand on ...
Iliad by Homer
I know most of the stories but never read the book in its entirety. Now I'm listening to the edition translated by W. H. D. Rouse and narrated by Anthony Heald. It's been great fun!
All else has just been put on hold for THE SWORD OF THE LADY by S.M. Stirling.
I was just about to attempt THE ILIAD translation by Robert Fagles, but knew I wouldn't be able to concentrate with the latest Change novel in my TBR pile.
... you interested in some of the others in the Oxford History of United States series.
I thought the Fagles translations of The Iliad and The Odyssey were very good. I also enjoyed the translations by Stanley Lombardo. Lombardo's translation discarded the classic rhyming scheme and uses more ...
... three books rather than one, for economic reasons" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings
Homer's epic poem The Iliad is comprised of numerous "books," though it is considered one body of work. Again, according to Wikipedia:
"Homer did not name the twenty-four books of the Ili ...
Hey --BJ;
I have yet to read the 6th and 7th HP books, but so far I think I favor "The Prisoner of Azkaban".
Oh, silly me---you were talking about the bookstores, weren't you. hee hee!~!
I liked the one in Plano the best. I liked how it was set up and the order of the books. But all of them ...
... here. I suppose I have already made up my mind as "here I is!~!"
hugs & snugs,
belva
I think I need to rid myself of my Iliad and Odyssey and get new translations. So Fagles, huh? Worth looking into. Thanx.
... an
Julie and Julia by Julie Powell
The Dragons of Hazlett by Michelle Scott
Joust by Mercedes Lackey
The Iliad by Homer
I plan to start Midnight Never Come by Marie Brennan next. I was going to go with The Iliad , but I just can't resist that pretty blue cover.
... of much Western imaginitive expression. (This does not equate expression with content, so pipe down every literalist.)
The Iliad , The Odyssey and Aristophanes' The Frogs plus Lysistrata for proof that we ain't boo-turkey different from our forebears.
The Republic of Plato; The La ...
Happy birthday! (A little early...) I haven't read the Fagle's translation of The Iliad and The Odyssey, but I read his translation of The Aeneid and loved it... have to see if I can get my hands on those eventually!
My birthday's in five days and my lovely roommate bought be the Fagle's translation of Homer's The Iliad and The Odyssey! I have the book I'm reading right now, two biographies checked out from the library, and then I have to read The Hunchback of Notre Dame by Victor Hugo (because I ...
... which seven cities claim to be his birthplace. It didn't address the question of written or oral but says that this and the Iliad were both oral. It was not clear if they were oral before Homer who wrote them down, or oral after Homer started telling them.
... of Ralph Waldo Emerson
THE COLLECTED POEMS OF W.B. YEATS
Four Quartets
Julius Caesar
Brave New World
The Iliad
The Odyssey
900 – History
The Battle for Gaul
The Civil War
Team of Rivals
No Ordinary Time
... Lover in particular of D.H. Lawrence
Ullyses of James Joyce
(which brings to mind the Odyssey and Iliad of Homer ) and, for all its faults, The Divine Comedy of Dante.
Inevitably I've missed some - many - and I have omitted here the great masterworks of ...
Thersites in the Iliad The Cyclops in the Odyssey; Nausicaa in the Odyssey
Tiresias in Oedipus Rex of Sophocles and Antigone in Antigone of Sophocles
Euripides and Mnesilochus in Thesmophoria- zusae by Aristophanes
Xanthias in The Frogs by Aristophan ...
Still plugging away at The Iliad - I'm really enjoying it when I'm reading it, but I am not dying to pick it up again when I put it down. Therefore, I am banning myself from reading anything else until I finish it!
... it's not bad to immerse yourself in a topic for awhile though. I'm into a classic Greek / Mythology thing now - reading The Iliad and hopefully soon the YA book The Lightning Thief.
... read Inferno again, maybe one day I'll read the other two parts again.
9. If you want to read this read The Aenied, the Iliad and the Odyssey first.
From The Iliad :
"The sprinting Abantes followed hard at his heels,
their forelocks cropped, hair grown long at the back..."
Hmmm....the world's first record of a mullet?
I am confused. Is there any hot man on man action like in The Iliad ?
... and get along in spite of our differences. And come to think of it, isn't the futility and waste of war a primary theme of The Iliad and The Odyssey.
P.S. I absolutely adore The Master and Margarita. It's one of my favorite novels. But as I overheard someone say recently in a thread, "Yo ...
... no endurance or long term impact. Did Homer think that thousands of years later we would still be reading and enjoying the Iliad ? I doubt it. I think he was just trying to write a good story the same as any author. It is up to us readers to give a story a long life.
...
Priam, King of Troy offers a ransom to Achilles for the body of his dead son Hector. David Malouf takes this incident from The Iliad and creates a marvellously written new story. 5 stars.
For the Iliad and Odyssey, try Robert Fagles. His translations are very readable. My own preference is for the Odyssey -- in any translation I find the Iliad heavier going, but that's just my personal taste.
Otherwise, if I can I go to a big bookshop and look at several translations ...
... When you pick up a Greek or Roman text, what name do you look for as to the translator of the work/s?
I was attempting The Iliad this summer and also wanted to read The Odyssey, but I was unable to even get past the intro so I skipped (eventually) to the text of the book and 40/50 pages ...
... When you pick up a Greek or Roman text, what name do you look for as to the translator of the work/s?
I was attempting The Iliad this summer and also wanted to read The Odyssey, but I was unable to even get past the intro so I skipped (eventually) to the text of the book and 40/50 pages ...
I'm finally loving The Iliad after my third attempt to read it! I think I was too young in high school during my first attempt, and five years ago I didn't have enough background knowledge to truly get what was going on. I've read a lot more Greek mythology since then and have read other ...
I just started The Iliad - actually I'm still on the lengthy Introduction, but chomping at the bit to get started on the actual text!
Does anyone know of a group read for this or The Odyssey??
... Thank you so much for sharing that with me.
I loved The Penelopiad and afterward attempted (thus far 3 times) to begin The Iliad and I just can't seem to get 'er done. Don't know. Brain block or something.
I checked the local college's summer class schedule to see if they had a class for ...
I just started Margaret Atwood's The Penelopiad last night and so far it is fabulous! I think I may have to give The Iliad and The Odyssey another shot.
... that one, I do not know as I seem to have a reading block with the Greek/Roman classics and have not been get through The Iliad yet.
The Samurai's Garden
Dream When You're Feeling Blue because the copy I read was from the library and I wanted my own.
and last but definitely not the ...
I think I have a major reading block when it comes to the Greek/Roman classics. I have been trying to read The Iliad for probably at least a month now and keep putting it down. I just get so lost in it. I want to read it so badly but just can't concentrate enough to keep going. What do you ...
42. Classic Lit- Ancient
The Iliad by Homer
Achilles and Agamemnon take two women as "spoils of war". When Agamemnon has to return his, he claims Achilles. Feeling he had been insulted Achilles withdraws his forces from the War and threatens to return home. All the while the gods have ...
42. The Iliad by Homer
I finally finished, the Trojan War in Verse. Although I enjoyed the book, I kept getting the characters confused. I knew the story, of course, so the action was easy to follow. But the people kept getting mixed up while I was reading.
Agamemnon and Achilles take two ...
I LOVE both THE ODYSSEY and ILIAD (particularly the Robert Fagles translations) but AENEID I found stupefyingly dull. Had to really struggle to get through it. Indeed, it's no ODYSSEY and Virgil was no Homer. Not even in the same ballpark.
Do try Conn Iggulden's writing--he's brilliant ...
... of wartime service in what many considered a "sideshow." Gene Sledge's work, free of literary artifice, ranks with the Iliad and Kaputt as grimly realistic portraits of the savage effects of combat on the human spirit. I haven't read the Psychoundakis, but after reading Ill Met at Moonli ...
Good morning.
I stopped by to say "hi" and it turned into a book so I copied and pasted it into your comments and deleted it from here.
later,
belva
... Odyssea - though that is frightening me for some reason - I'm not sure I will be able to get through it, though I managed Iliad - with quite some difficulty... (and the additional disappointment of discovering after having read hundreds of pages that the last 50 are mysteriously missing in my ...
Have once again set aside The Iliad to pick up an ER that I need to get read and reviewed. In point of fact I believe I have 2 others as well. So I will get those done and then get back to it.
Right now the ER I am reading is The Moment Between by Nicole Baart and it is very good and to ...
... and herring fuelled consideration, and after intense research in my library, are my "10 books I couldn't live without".
The Iliad Richmond Lattimore with all my marginalia
The Penguin Book of English Verse
Collected Works of Shakespeare Norton, with all my notes
Collected Poems of Aud ...
... one-book characters (nothing wrong with either type, but it's not as interesting as seeing Achillevs listed as in both the The Iliad and Gödel, Escher, Bach).
... is not for you, child. Lend yourself to sighs of longing and the marriage bed. Let Ares and Athena deal with war"
The Iliad by Homer
"Speak: don't stand there silent; what do you want?"
... the 15th of June. So ---------300 pages. That is just the equivalent of one book in more than 2 weeks. Come on over!~!
The Iliad is another story for me. I have like no background for this so I am having a lot of trouble with names, places, etc. and I'm not even through the introduction. I ...
... fully contemplated. When I was in college, we had to write an essay about metaphors and analogies etc. from Homer's Iliad . Almost every person in the class wrote about one particular quotation--namely, "A generation of men is like a generation of leaves; the wind scatters some leaves ...
... with part 3 of Anna Karinina for the group read. I should be able to finish that this afternoon and then get back to The Iliad tonight after the baseball game. Also need to read the next H.P book # 5 before school gets out as my grandson checked it out of the grammar school library for ...
Finished March, almost completed part 3 of Anna Karinina and then it is back to The Iliad . And I also have to get that H.P. book finished before the grandson gets out of school for the summer as it is a library book from the grammar school. Yikes!~!
Hope ya all are reading some great stuff. ...
... Always happy to turn someone on to "the man"!~!
And recs don't come any higher than what you said about your readings of The Iliad . My translation is a Robert Fitzgerald trans. I wouldn't know one from the other. This is only my second venture into Greek/Roman mythology/classics. So I am ...
I'm currently reading Victory of Eagles and rereading the Iliad and the Odyssey. :)
Just finished Twilight, New Moon, Eclipse, and Breaking Dawn. Those were... just.. Ug.
:)
Based on the number of times that I have read it,The Iliad is probably my favorite book. Which translation are you reading Belva?
Taking into account the recommendations and my own research I am going to begin my reading of Steinbeck with Tortilla Flat. It is described as being humorous and ...
--BJ;
Thanx for the info regarding my Iliad translation.
And a lot of people did enjoy The Blank Wall so if I were you, being interested, I would continue to search. You might try thriftbooks.com, amazon.com, or some of the others. If you don't want to buy a copy (which I didn't), try ...
--BJ;
Thanx for the info regarding my Iliad translation.
And a lot of people did enjoy The Blank Wall so if I were you, being interested, I would continue to search. You might try thriftbooks.com, amazon.com, or some of the others. If you don't want to buy a copy (which I didn't), try ...
... with King Arthur. How sad for him (and for us, his loyal subjects) that this work was unfinished.
I "dabbled" in The Iliad a few months ago in preparation for a lecture at the local library. I don't have the patience to read it in full, but really liked the parts that I read.
Btw, ...
... ordered it. I was able to do it online and it took about 2 days for it to get to my branch.
Regarding my translation of The Iliad , let me run check---***oh look, look & see, see belva run***---it is a Robert Fitzgerald translation. Now, mind you, I know nothing about translations--who is ...
Hi, Belva!
What translation of The Iliad are you using? My copy is translated by Fagles. I have heard good things about his translation, but I haven't read it yet.
--BJ
... and reviews to be forthcoming.
I have now moved along to March by Geraldine Brooks and also am tackling Homer's The Iliad . I am expecting the later to take me quite some time as I am just dipping into the mythological classics and have no background here. But I am excited to be ...
... and reviews to be forthcoming.
I have now moved along to March by Geraldine Brooks and also am tackling Homer's The Iliad . I am expecting the later to take me quite some time as I am just dipping into the mythological classics and have no background here. But I am excited to be ...
... and reviews to be forthcoming.
I have now moved along to March by Geraldine Brooks and also am tackling Homer's The Iliad . I am expecting the later to take me quite some time as I am just dipping into the mythological classics and have no background here. But I am excited to be ...
... tonight, for the colors swirled across the heavens in just such a happy profusion."
And from the introduction to the Iliad : "Homer has often been called the "father of Western literature," but history is never so neat.
... tonight, for the colors swirled across the heavens in just such a happy profusion."
And from the introduction to the Iliad : "Homer has often been called the "father of Western literature," but history is never so neat.
... here tonight, for the colors swirled across the heavens in just such a happy profusion."
And from the introduction to the Iliad : "Homer has often been called the "father of Western literature," but history is never so neat.
... read.
I finished both The Penelopiad and The Blank Wall yesterday so those reviews will be forthcoming. I began the Iliad and March by Geraldine Brooks.
Thus far I am realizing that I am in for a ride with Homer and that it is going to take a while and a lot of concentration. And ...
I am reading The Iliad and March by Geraldine Brooks. I think the former will be a huge time consumer for me.
... more than I check in. I am "BAAAD to the bone" in a library. Worse than a bookstore for me.
And I, too, am reading both the Iliad and the Oddysey this year for my 999 challenge.
Yeah, that poem is really cool. Funny, too. There are actually quite a few of Atwood's poems in The Pene ...
That's horrible. I remember reading books like 1984 and The Iliad as a kid. Sure they were over my head - in parts. So what?..
... prove it. And of course their sense of it cannot be taken as identical to ours. But it was ancient to them. In the Iliad we see that Agamemnon is no more than a first among equals, so that tradition goes back at least to the eighth century when Homer wrote it, although more probably to ...
I found a gorgeous Everyman edition of The Iliad at my favourite bookstore. Best of all, it's translated by Robert Fitzgerald, the guy who changed my mind about The Odyssey. I think it may be my next read; I can't wait to dive in.
... 51 Inferno
853 Cosmicomics
863 One Hundred Years of Solitude
873 The Golden Ass
882 Oedipus Rex
883 The Iliad
884 Sappho: A New Translation
891 We
892 Gilgamesh (added 5/26)
Missing 100s: none!
... little thing? I see you are reading right along! I am trying to figure out what to pick up next. I really want to read The Iliad but don't want the weight of it right now so maybe the next "Harry Potter". I think I am up to the 5th now.
Anyway just wanted to pop in and say "hey". **waves* ...
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1)On one front, I am going through an Ancient Greek literature phase of having done the Odyssey for a second time, the Iliad and currently half way through the Aeneid.
One of the things that is standing out for me in the Aeneid, as in the Iliad, is the freedom with men are so often ...
I have The Iliad coming up on my TBR really soon also (actually I should be on it now, but grabbed a Steinbeck instead) and I am very "ASCARED". I have this mind block when it comes to Homer or any of the great Greek, Latin, etc. classic works, yet I really want to read them. Fear just ...
... actually suppose to read those in high school but joined a readers theater and got out of it. A heads up I will be reading Iliad , Aeneid, and Plato's Republic next. Of course I hope to work some fun reads in there.
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For his first novel in ten years Malouf has chosen to retell the latter part of The Iliad by Homer. Achilles has killed Priam's son Hector and for many days has been dragging the body around, tied to a cart. Priam decides to offer Achilles a ...
Right now I am finishing The Holiday by Stevie Smith and getting ready to begin either Iliad by Homer or Brideshead Revisited by Evelyn Waugh. I haven't decided which yet. It will depend on where my head is at the time.
(touchstones don't want to work properly)
The Iliad
Fay by Larry Brown
The Iliad by Homer
... by Jane Gleeson-White.
A collection of reviews. Gleeson-White has selected sixty-two great books, starting with The Iliad and ending with Midnight's Children. The book is of some use - I had never contemplated reading The Iliad but might try it, and I know now to stay away from ...
... returned from the library book sale and, I must say, this year I scored some real beauties...for a mere 50 cents each:
THE ILIAD (Richmond Lattimore, Translator)
THE PENGUIN HISTORY OF EUROPE (J.M. Roberts)
THE PENGUIN HISTORY OF THE WORLD ( " ")
FROM BEIRUT TO JERUSALEM (Thomas L. ...
... high school's (non) library. So I will be reading my shelved books once my card runs out and The Poisenwood Bible and The Iliad are probably the first two on my list.
My, how I do run on. (told you I was old).
You have a great day and thanx for stopping by. I check out your thread ...
Where do I go in the Greek classics after the Odysesy and the Iliad ?
I thought they were both absolutely great!
But where do I turn now if I want to continue but don't want to read the Greek plays? I always have trouble reading plays of any era. I like to watch them, but I find them ...
>1 Urquhart. I have an audiobook of Stanley Lombardo's Iliad . It is narrated by Susan Sarandon. I really like Lombardo's translation. His language is very visceral he begins:
"Rage:
Sing, Goddess, Achilles' rage,
Black and murderous, that cost the Greeks
Incalculable pain, ...
In the past 8 months I have read both the Odyssey and the Iliad and found them absolutely magnificent.
Can you suggest for me any other specific ancient Greek literature titles that I might find equally engrossing? I know of none at the moment.
I have heard of the dramatists but don't ...
... have been older when I read it.
I also enjoyed Greek mythology, either myth stories Edith Hamilton comes to mind or The Iliad . Makes a great "go-with" if your students are following Percy Jackson
Or make a connection to your Twilight fans by reading the original vampire story Dra ...
... to look.
Compare the Loeb Iliad with the generic translated Iliad .
Among the recommendations given for the former, I can find things like Homeric Vocabularies: Greek and English Word Lists for the Study of Homer and Lexicon of ...
... Oh, and if you want to understand the essential nature of the ancient Greeks, you absolutely must read Homer, especially The Iliad .
... I have been working on my TBR listing and am going to include Tolstoy's War and Peace. Homers The Odyssey
and The Iliad and Dostroyevsy's Crime and Punishment and Waugh's Brideshead Revisited. Those are my personal challenges this year and I am more than a little ...
... been working on my TBR listing and am going to include Tolstoy's War and Peace. Homers The Odyssey
and The Iliad and Dostroyevsy's Crime and Punishment and Waugh's Brideshead Revisited. Those are my personal challenges this year and I am more than a little ...
... Game by Ellen Raskin
1/17/09 - 1/18/09, ***1/2
#9: Eragon by Christopher Paolini
1/17/09 - 1/21/09, ****
#10: The Iliad and the Odyssey by Homer
1/21/09 - 1/31/09, ***
A couple of years back I read The Iliad and got sucked in, big time. I decided to go after the classical education I never got in school and have done so, with a vengeance, reading primary sources (Herodotus, Thucydides, Xenophon, Aristophanes) and some great contemporary works of history, as ...
Same thing happened to my sister. I found her college copy of The Iliad noted and highlighted When I told her about it she was surprised, she didn't remember
reading it. When I showed it to her she still didn't remember reading it. Still it sure was fun for us to see what she had written and to ...
...
I find that with a decent flat-screen LCD monitor and the HTML format, I can sit at my computer and read. This version of The Iliad translated by Pope, I thought was quite nice. I have the same translation in an Easton Press book, and it has no footnotes whatsoever.
http://www.gutenberg.org ...
... what a masterpiece Middlemarch is, and can only shake my head over the fact that Cold Comfort Farm came in ahead of The Iliad , and most amazing of all, The Odyssey didn't even make the cut!
The book I read over and over is The Iliad . I do have the benefit of a number of translations, prose and poetry, which do vary the book. I find something different every time I read it. I understand that it is not every one's cup of tea but I have read it at least 12 to 15 times and will read ...
... get home from work tonight, no problem! It's kinda making me want to reread The Odyssey but to do that I'd have to read The Iliad first (does it surprise anyone that I can't read a series out of order?) and since I own those I'll have to wait until I get through my stack of Library books.
...
... Perhaps this is why these are great works. You really have to engage the brain. I just got my copy of Easton Press The Iliad today. What a beautiful book. It's very tempting to get started on it. But I am going to stick to my plan. Edwin Drood it is!
... to the language.
His plays are very insightful expressions of human emotions that have not changed. I read the Iliad about every two years and always find something new in the poem that is relevant to what people are doing today.
Until human nature changes Shakespeare will continue ...
tames, I loved reading Fagles' The Iliad . I thought it was a great start to a classic work that I was completely unfamiliar with. I'm currently reading Fagles' Odyssey and then I want to read Aeneid (haven't decided if I'll go with Fagles or some one else's translation for that).
That said, ...
... God - 228 pp
6. Callahan's Crosstime Saloon - 170 pp
7. Plain Secrets - 200 pp
8. Things Fall Apart - 209 pp
9. The Iliad - 588 pp
10. Ysabel - 420 pp
11. The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy - 216 pp
12. Eon: Dragoney Reborn - 531 pp
13. Pat of Silver Bush - 278 pp
14. ...
I am looking at the Folio version of The Iliad translated by Fagles and the Easton Press version translated by Alexander Pope.
The Pope version is available on gutenburg.org. I started reading the Pope version with some difficulty. It became much easier for me to understand if I read slowly ...
#35 I agree. What in the world is literary fiction genre? Is that like The Iliad or Shakespeare's Hamlet or something?
For class this week:
Selections for Homer's Iliad
I started to write a summary of the poem and eventually gave up. I teach this text year after year, and I find it impossible to give a concise summary of such a momentous epic. The best I can do is to say that it's about pride, rage, ...
The Robert Fagles translations of The Iliad and The Odyssey are really good. I also like the Stanley Lombardo ones, but they're more liberal and more controversial.
... of live stock, literacy, arts, economics. I once got an A on an essay comparing the level of modern consciousness in The Iliad to that of The Odyssey. These were Homer's take on the flowering of modern consciousness, among other things.
This is a rather lame attempt at describing ...
... I do want to reread Paradise Lost, since I read it in high school and don't remember anything. The same thing for the Iliad , Odyssey, and Aeneid, which I also read in high school. Those I need to revisit to appreciate them.
... enthusiasm for her! My personal favorites are The Robber Bride and The Blind Assassin. Also, I see that you just read The Iliad ; are you planning on reading / have read The Odyssey, too? If so, I'll recommend Atwood's The Penelopiad, which I read last year and loved. It's a short, ...
... by Salman Rushdie - I loved this book, the first book by Rushdie I had ever read; highly recommended
61. The Iliad by Homer, translation by Richard Lattimore - I admit I had never read The Iliad before and had some preconceptions that were pretty well run rough shod ...
I like my definition better . . .
Speaking of definitions, I kept running across the word 'hecatomb' while reading The Iliad and finally gave in and looked it up: an ancient Greek and Roman sacrifice of 100 oxen or cattle.
Learn something new here every day!
#54: I am currently reading The Iliad and am definitely interested in mythology - planning to get to The Odyssey some time this year too, so I will add The Penelopiad to my new Atwood list. Thanks for the recommendation, Linda.
... thrillers, and Clancy writes political thrillers.
I'm a big fan of classics, so may I recommend The Little Prince, The Iliad , The Odyssey, The Aeneid, or any other classic.
Do you like nonfiction? Do you have any interests such as sports, nutrition, politics, etc. that I (or any ...
... comes to my mind is Dryden, for his Aeneid. (I've never read his Georgics.) As to Pope, though, I don't at all like his Iliad .
As to Chaucer, I don't see The Romance of the Rose or his Boethius as all that significant, and I don't consider Troilus and Criseyde a "translation."
It ...
Don't get me started on The Iliad (occupational hazard)! Suffice it to say that I'm always excited when someone new reads it for the first time. Happy reading, alcottacre - if you want to discuss when your finished, count me in!
#136 - the thing I loved about The Iliad was the poignancy of the character of Hector and his family and their end. He was so noble and honorable. He loved his wife and son, yet had to do what he had to do for duty to this country. I much preferred him over the egomaniac spoiled brat Achilles.
#135: I have the Lattimore translation, so I will see how that goes. I will probably read The Odyssey after I finish up The Iliad . I freely admit that I am more familiar with the storyline of The Odyssey than that of the other, which is why I started with The Iliad first.
#134 - I loved The Iliad so much I named my golden retriever after Hector! Out of the two, I preferred it over The Odyssey, but that's just me, I think most people prefer the other, but I loved the story of the Trojan War.
I am starting both The Iliad and The Poems and Plays of Richard Brinsley Sheridan, Volume 2 today. After the fun I had with Volume 1 of Sheridan, I am really looking forward to volume 2. As for The Iliad , I have never read it before, so not quite sure what to expect!
... not the only one! It *is* a beautiful passage.
#18: AWilkins: I agree with dk - Lombardo is the best translation for The Iliad , The Odyssey, and The Aeneid that's out there right now. I had the chance to see (hear) him give a couple of readings from his Iliad and Aeneid translations, ...
... new book list! I've already taken my Apuleius off the shelf and stuck it in my 'currently reading' pile (I've already read The Iliad and The Odyssey, although I will be reading selections from both of them again this semester for the mythology course I'm teaching). I've read bits and pieces ...
... Man James Joyce
A Wrinkle in Time Madeleine L'Engle
Great Expectations Charles Dickens
The Iliad Homer
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland Lewis Carroll
Cry, the Beloved Country Alan Paton
Paradise Lost John Milton
...
... IMHO and therefore is both tedious and difficult to follow, in parts.
I launched my study of ancient Greece by reading The Iliad & The Odyssey & Herodotus & Thucydides in that order. Now that I have learned more about the period I may re-read some or all of these But you can't beat the ...
Some more suggestions from Norway (I think I've suggested them once or twice before):
The Iliad by Homer
or
The Odyssey by Homer (reread for me).
Ulysses by James Joyce. I think a group read of this novel will be the only way for me to manage more than some few pages of it.
(We ...
Do you have the Robert Fagles translation of THE ILIAD ? That's my favorite, by far. Very readable--beautiful, in fact. Ditto his ODYSSEY...
... into children's and grownups's sections. So, when I was in about the third grade and asked the librarian about either the Iliad or The Odyssey and she said with a genuine look of confusion "I don't think we have any children's books by that title..."
It became a sort of family ...
Done with the Iliad , I looked up Beloved and I'll see if I'm able to find it. Thanks for the tip:)
theaelizabet,
The Iliad is actually one book I may not get to this year because I might shift towards more American books (just seems to be my theme this year). I'll read it, just not sure when.
Dave
... a very young man who goes off to the Civil War with romantic notions of the "glory of battle" from reading such classics as Iliad and his disillusionment and coming to terms with the reality of war when facing battle himself I am keenly aware of the fine line West Point professors and officers ...
... edition. Signed by Author(s).
This would certainly be the bargain of the millennium.....
I certainly think Fagles' Iliad to be the most poetic of the translations I have read, and am looking forward to seeing how his Aeneid compares with my own favorite--Rolfe Humphries' version.
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VIII. Classical Studies in Translation, or It's All Greek to Me
1. Sophocles' The Oedipus Plays
2. The Iliad
3. Livy: Early History of Ancient Rome
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Poetry
1. Ariel
2. ee cummings
3. wilfred owen
4. Sonnets from the Portugese < ...
#4 lauranav: I have the Lattimore translation of The Iliad home from the library now. We shall see how well it reads for me. If I do not care for it, I will see if I can find the Fitzgerald translation you mentioned.
I like your categories. I've read some on your list and enjoyed them all.
I just read The Iliad last week - the Fitzgerald translation was a great read.
I really like The Count of Monte Cristo and Watership Down and Pilgrim's Progress (a reread on my 2009 999 Challenge list).
I look ...
... the 75 in 2009 I'm going strictly with books read in January.
In Jan so far I have read:
Luke (28 pp) and John (21 pp)
The Iliad (588pp) - that will do some good damage to my page counter
Callahan's Crosstime Saloon (170pp)
Tomorrow I plan to finish Pat of Silver Bush (278 pp)
... Drear
Raising Dragons
Messenger of Truth
The Read-Aloud Handbook
In Jan so far I have read:
Luke and John
The Iliad - my first real victory! I enjoyed it, which pumps me for some of the other books I need to tackle.
Callahan's Crosstime Saloon - so glad my aunt's husband ...
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The Odyssey: a Norton Critical Edition
The Iliad : the Fitzgerald translation
A Guide to the Iliad – Hogan
Homer’s The Iliad and the Odyssey: a Biography – Manguel
The Curtain – Kundera
Dog Sold ...
... I read in 2004 is definatley released this year, june, maybe.
Next Witcher book by Andrzej Sapkowski to be translated is Times of anger , September.
Final/12th book from Robert Jordan (RIP)
Sharing Knife by Bujold, Passage, January
Jacqueline Carey's Kushiel's Mercy, June
Karen Miller's ...
... Gardener
Shibumi
Classical Studies:
Livy: Early History of Ancient Rome
The Oedipus Plays of Sophocles
The Iliad (this will do double duty in the next category)
Poetry:
Ariel by Sylvia Plath
Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats finished February 11, 2009
Ot ...
... The Secret Gospel of Thomas by Elaine Pagels
Saint Joseph Edition of the New American Bible: The New Testament
The Iliad translated by Robert Fagles
We Drink from Our Own Wells by Gustavo Gutierrez
This is a start. The emphasis in nonfiction is on primary sources.
2 ...
... Lost by John Milton
6. The Divine Comedy by Dante Alghieri - done
7. Cyrano De Bergerac by Edmund Rostand - done
8. The Iliad by Homer - done
9. Metamorphoses by Ovid - done
8. Growth
1. Thomas Aquinas: Selected Writings
2. On the Incarnation by St Athanasius - done
3. Unpac ...
... it's fiction or non-fiction.
Thanks.
Here are the books I've decided to read so far:
The Fountainhead - Ayn Rand
Iliad - Homer
Odyssey - Homer
Beyond Good and Evil - Freidrich Nietzsche
Dune - Frank Herbert
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon
Imagining the Tenth Dimension ...
I was under the impression that the author of the Iliad and the Odyssey was known as Homer in the English-speaking world. Just curious why he is listed as Homère on the author page here.
2. Classic Lit- (DONE)
Ancient:
1. Aeneid read 6-10-2009
2. The Republicread 8-6-2009
3. The Iliad read 6-10-2009
Before 1900:
4. Pilgrams Progress read 9-03-2009
5. Cyrano de Bergerac read 1-11-2009
6. Arthurian Romances read 6-11-2009
After 1900:
7. A Tree Grows in Brook ...
... That, and the fact my husband has always had a passion for it and it will be fun to read some thing together!
I've read Iliad a couple of times and War and Peace a long time ago--I will want to reread that. I own Peloponnesian War but haven't read it The other three are new to me and I ...
A portable alarm clock
A bottle of contact lens solution
A contact lens storage case
A copy of The Iliad
A mostly empty bottle of Stolichnaya Vodka
A 1971 quarter (it has no significance; it's just there)
... the "top 10" military history books according to an article in the current issue of _Military History_ magazine.
* Iliad by Homer - already read for classics book group
* The History of the Peloponnesian War by Thucydides
* On War by Carl von Clausewitz - own it
* W ...
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882 Classical Greek Drama
~(882.01) Oedipus Rex by Sophocles
883 Classical Greek Epic Poetry and Fiction
~(883.01) Iliad by Homer
884-890
891 East Indo-European and Celtic
~(891.7313) The Shooting Party by Anton Chekhov
892-899
I read Oedipus Rex in high school and Iliad ...
... in translation, you've still got an original author to attach the book to. So, regardless of how few people are reading The Illiad in the original Greek, Homer is still showing up as the main author. What's annoying people in this situation is that there are many people who have editions of B ...
... 1984 by George Orwell
5. The Three Musketeers by Alexandre Dumas **FINISHED**
6. Frankenstein by Mary Shelley
7. The Iliad by Homer
8. Little Women by Lousia May Alcott **FINISHED**
9. Princess Bride by William Goldman **FINISHED**
... Wu Cheng'en, Volume 1
2. Orlando Furioso by Ludovico Ariosto (on hold)
3. Journey to the West, Volume 2
4. The Iliad by Homer (in progress)
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Went to my sister's for Thanksgiving and raided her bookcase. Came home with:
The Iliad , The West End Horror, Myths Every Child Should Know, The Shoes of the Fisherman, Ascent into Hell, For better, For Worse, Apocalipstick, Lemon Meringue Pie Murder, The Anastasia Syndrome, All ...
... little interest in pre-1900 literature, at least at this point in his life. There are exceptions: Fagles' translations of THE ILIAD and ODYSSEY and that fat Edith Grossman translation of DON QUIXOTE always seems to lurk near the top of the to-be-read pile.
Not, therefore, a true snob, ...
... are absolutely my favorite verse translations of both works, surpassing in readability and poetry the Lattimore Iliad and the Fitzgerald Odyssey which had been my previous favorites. I thus would say they are reader's editions more than bibliophile's editions.
If you like the ...
EX: The World According to Garp, Out Stealing Horses, The Iliad , The Sacred Book of the Werewolf, The Wasp Factory, The Temple of the Golden Pavilion, The Moon and Sixpence, The Prisoner of Zenda, The Sun King
... actually got reprimanded by her principal for acting out the parts she was reading from (and it's not like it was the Iliad or Lady Chatterly's Lover). It was very PG and appropriate, but apparently any animation while reading is now forbidden in school.
The Iliad ****
by Homer
11/07/08
The Sacred Book of the Werewolf ***
by Victor Pelevin
11/09/08
... Prejudice. Nor, if I have the "CK: Series" column in my catalog, would I want it to explode because I have a copy of The Iliad .
A separate "Lists" feature, that would have pages equivalent to the Series pages without cluttering up other areas, would accomplish what you want without ...
... this year.
socialpages - I BookMooched The Penelopiad which makes it twice as exciting as normal. My daughter read The Iliad last year in 9th grade Honors English and had to write a poem from Penelope's point of view, so I got interested.
And, to both of you - I would never have ...
Another suggestion, just to get the feel of the poetry: see if you can find a recording of the Iliad being recited in Greek. There's a certain visceral force to Greek dactylic hexameters that English doesn't really have the ability to encapsulate.
The only one I've been able to find quickly ...
... you very much for your responses. I'm learning by reading.
In fact, criels, I just picked up four translations of the Iliad last week and compared the first few pages to get a feel for what I'm looking for. I completely see what you mean about Lattimore's versus Lombardo's. I'm going ...
Well, I must say you've inspired me. I will try theOdyssey again one day. I'm happy to live my life without the Iliad though. Thanks for your thoughtful and encouraging comments.
... and historical importance it easily stands beside Beowulf, The Song of Roland and The Ramayana , even perhaps The Iliad and The Aeneid in world literature. And while it is a celebration of a warrior king -- he is his mother's son!
Yeah, I was wondering about the Homer too. I had to read excerpts of the Iliad and the Odyssey for my class, and it was just gibberish to me. So I tried to take the time to read them in their entirety, thinking something would make sense. Just couldn't do it. The Iliad was just testosterone ...
October reading:
122. The Iliad , Homer, trans. R. Fagles
The clashing energy of war; Greek and Trojan heroes strain for victory inspired and thwarted in turn by the gods.
123. Homer's the Iliad and the Odyssey: A book that shook the world, Alberto Manguel
A bewildering introduction ...
For Whom the Bell Tolls by Ernest Hemingway
The Gun Seller by Hugh Laurie
Hapgood by Tom Stoppard
The Iliad by Homer
Jumpers by Tom Stoppard
... approaches, it would be well worth your while to compare Stanley Lombardo's and Richmond Lattimore's translations of the Iliad of Homer.
I'm starting Fagles's Iliad . So far so good!
... are Kafka-esque, when I've - shh!, don't tell anyone! - never actually read any.
Otherwise, while I'd love to read The Iliad or Don Quixote, I've just begun the arduous process of marking our state's final English examinations, which gives me 13 hour working days, for about a month, ...
duplicate post... see below
... 'War and Peace' and 'Middlemarch' etc.).
I would like to read something a little different this time, like (cf. #6)
The Iliad , very classic.
The Trial, rather modern and special
or (a new suggestion from me).
Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe
Edited to add touchstones, won't ...
I suggest
The Iliad by Homer
or
The Trial by Franz Kafka
... of things, and certainly wrong about many things and even some important thing, he is absolutely the best thing to read (the Iliad excepted).
Crito, Apology, Euthyphro are excellent.
... -- I don't really want to look at my series page and see a single entry for a hundred series just because I own a copy of The Iliad , no matter how much some people may want to track their Harvard Classics. I don't have a problem with the series pages existing -- it's what they do to my Series ...
... do?} told me I had read all the SF in the library and to quit looking in that section. A lady handed me The Odyssey and the Iliad & told me those were Sf also. I read them & others {over a period of a few weeks maybe} and noticed it took some time to make the story flow but you can read ...
... POETRY (Vol. I & II) Edited by John Wain
COLLECTED POEMS OF PHILIP LARKIN (Larkin)
Best Translation: THE ILIAD (Robert Fagles)
***********************************
Did I miss anything?
... all in the public domain in 1952, many of which are substandard. You can find a fantastic new (and free) translation of the Iliad and the Odyssey on the web at http://records.viu.ca/~johnstoi/homer/iliad_title.htm (in 24 separate "books"); or http://www.richerresourcespublications.com/E-Bo ...
... purchased it in prep for tackling Ulysses, but I'm enjoying it so much, I might continue on with their rendition of The Iliad instead.
#65 misericordia - pejorative tags? how about just tags that don't mean anything to you? I loaded the tags for The Iliad (while I perused old e-mails) and saw hundreds of tags, very few of which were locations. Many more were variations on the word classic, Greece, ancient. I personally don't ...
OK here goes...
I stopped listening to The Iliad because after a month or so and only on Part 4 of 14, I had completely lost track of what was happening.
I stopped reading Why You Say It because it just wasn't working for me.
I finished The Mother Tongue by Bill Bryson, continuing my ...
... .
Currently reading -- Why You Say It and Mother Tongue
Currently listening to -- Anne of the Island
Abandoned -- The Iliad because I lost track of the story on audio after listening to parts 1-4 (out of 14) over the course of a month. I might try to read it sometime.
The Penolopiad sounds really interesting Nickelini. I've just returned to The Iliad to see if I can finish it, so I'll look out for the Atwood too.
#74 whisper - I've always loved The Iliad and The Odyssey so when I heard about this book I really wanted to read it. I'll have to look for that painting you mentioned - off to Google it.
... about it either. 4 stars.
Currently reading -- The Poisonwood Bible and Why You Say It
Currently listening to -- The Iliad
Gave up on -- Ms. Hempel Chronicles (started and stopped it today; again, less of a plot-driven novel and I just couldn't get interested)
... (also counts for fiction by women)
The Canterbury Tales
Inferno
The Aeneid
Gulliver's Travels
Paradise Lost
The Iliad
Feminism
The Second Sex
Sister Outsider
The Dialectic of Sex
Ain't I a Woman
The Female Eunuch
Unbearable Weight
killing rage: Ending Racism ...
... lukewarm reviews about it here at LT, but I'm currently studying women in Greek mythology and reading The Odyssey and the Iliad , so I thought this would act as an interesting compliment.
The others are all non-fiction, and I bought them all because they just looked interesting:
Plan ...
... 2 stars.
Currently reading -- The Poisonwood Bible, Why You Say It, and The Good Thief
Currently listening to -- The Iliad
... and reading At Large and At Small by Anne Fadiman before bedtime. Read introduction to Lattimore translation of the Iliad , but will set Iliad aside until reading of Kristin Lavransdatter is well underway.
... this one 3.5 stars.
Currently reading -- Friday Night Lights and The Poisonwood Bible
Currently listening to -- The Iliad
Winter's coming, so something meaty would be good...Don Quixote or Moby Dick, but I'd also be glad to re-read The Iliad , The Odyssey, or Dead Souls.
Not quite at interested in Kristin Lavransdatter, but would certainly give it a shot if that's the way things go.
...
Currently reading -- Friday Night Lights, The Poisonwood Bible and The Spellman Files
Currently listening to -- The Iliad
... only read The Golden Child which was her first.
Currently reading Poisonwood Bible for the group read and starting The Iliad today.
... there will be more suggestions and a poll.
The voting is a very exciting group employment, I think.
I also hope that The Iliad and Kristin Lavransdatter will be on that poll.
... Hardy I would love and also I have never read Ivanhoe by Sir Walter Scott.
In addition I would be interested in The Iliad by Homer or The Odyssey by Homer.
How about The Prince? It's not too long. I like Don Quixote and The Iliad /Odyssey too.
I suggest we read an ancient classic this time:
The Iliad by Homer
or
The Odyssey by Homer.
I read 'The Odyssey' some years ago, so I'll prefer 'The Iliad'.
... fiction. 5 stars.
Currently reading -- Shadow of the Wind and The Meaning of Everything
Currently listening to -- The Iliad and Captain Alatriste
Stopped reading -- Saga by Conor Kostick (wrong touchstone)
... of Everything and
From Doon with Death
I hope to finish Captain Alatriste on audio soon, and will be listening to The Iliad for a looooong time to come (only on part 2 of 14).
...
This also applies to certain pieces of great literature in the world, like Shakespeare or the Arabian Nights or Homer's Iliad .
... Doon with Death, Samurai William, and The Meaning of Everything
Currently listening to -- Captain Alatriste and The Iliad
Stopped reading -- The Mysterious Island
No. 38 The Iliad Homer translated by Stanley Lombardo 516 pages ( 14,936 total pages). I listened to portions of this on an audio book that was narrated by Stanley Lombardo. The audio book was very good. It had some very primal music at the beginning of each book and there was also music ...
... reading -- The Mysterious Island and Standard Hero Behavior
Currently listening to -- Captain Alatriste and The Iliad
... What can I say?
Oh, and for audiobooks this week, I'm listening to Captain Alatriste while doing housework and The Iliad before I go to bed (admittedly a poor choice, as the list of people on ships put me to sleep very quickly two nights in a row).
I am listening to The Iliad . It is narrated by the translator Stanley Lombardo. His translation is very down to earth and uses a lot of contemporary language. He is also a good narrator. I would recommend it to any one who likes this book.
... so I may have to have it on while I'm cleaning in order to polish off the audio. Oh, and I've also started listening to The Iliad , which I have tried to read before and never got very far. I've been listening to it before I go to bed, and finding that this may not be the best method as it's ...
>30 Did you find that Helen in Nobody's Princess clashed with your image of her from The Iliad /Greek Literature? I studied classics and the Trojan war stories are pretty ingrained in me - I'm really scared to read this book and be disappointed!
I'm still reading The Hunger Games and will ...
... it -- it's an interesting take on Helen of Troy as a girl, making her much less passive than one might assume from reading The Iliad .
#26, it's definitely historical fiction, but well-researched and well-written historical fiction.
I also read Peeps, which had more factual information ...
I would give George W. a copy of The Iliad . The story of how hubris and arrogance coupled with the mightiest army ever assembled and the greatest navy ever to sail the wine dark sea sabotaged a war fought for pride. How the supposedly invincible, the mightiest warrior on earth was himself ...
... just thought it was a 3,000 year old fairytale with no relevance to today. What a shame. This Epic Poem and it's brother The Iliad are musts for everyone who would "run the world".
I'm reading Xenophon's Anabasis: The March Up Country. I'm also rereading The Iliad .
... two to three years. It is truly a great book and I get something different from it every time I read it. I will read The Iliad again soon. I often read them back to back. The Iliad is more difficult but in my opinion an even greater book. It is based upon the premise that a person's ...
I generally don't reread books, but I've made exceptions for The Odyssey, The Iliad , The Epic of Gilgamesh, and Beowulf.
I have not reread a disliked book.
... (I loved trying to pronounce the names!) Then I did some classic Greek. Loved The Odyssey but had trouble getting through The Iliad .
... Ultimate Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams
7. The Chronicles of Barsetshire by Anthony Trollope
8. The Iliad and The Odyssey by Homer
Extra Credit: Literary Debris {complete}
1. Intruder in the Dust by William Faulkner ***
2. The Castle of Otranto by H ...
... (and religious, of course) works in western culture.
I DID read The Odyssey some years ago, but I haven't read The Iliad yet.
And I've got The Koran, but I've never been in the mood for reading it.
... to reading that part.
Right now I am reading the Robert Fagles translation of The Odyssey. I read The Odyssey and The Iliad every two to three years. I enjoy them every time. I have the second Library of America Philip Dick volume on the way and am looking forward to that. All this ...
... the complement of σῶμα 'body'. And it already meant the spirits of the departed that went to Hades at the start of the Iliad . But there's some etymology here in the Greek, which I deliberately followed transitively. The original sense of igor.kh in New features : A raft of edition/combination improvements (Jul 2, 2008, 12:24am)
... collection. Think Dracula vs the single volume bundle of Frankenstein, Dracula and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Also think The Iliad and The Odyssey vs the bundle The Iliad and the Odyssey (notice how tochstones work out).
The second feature concerns multiple authors. The bibliographic ...
... that the teachers knew something I didn't because I don't remember HATING anything. My almost-15 year daughter HATED The Iliad and The Odessey, but she read them. I pray they don't throw any more epic poems at her - I think it's the format more than anything else.
... been wanting for a long time. I also ordered Don't Look Now and Other Stories, The Gulag Archipelago, Tom Jones, and The Iliad , and, yes, a couple of other ones. There are still more that tempt me; maybe I can order a few more next month! Do the books usually start to sell out? I mean ...
... book snob whenever someone asks what I read. I have probably read 2 fiction books in the last couple of years and they were The Iliad and The Odyssey. Not exactly Stephen King or James Patterson, but it was fiction.
I suppose I am the same as those who posted before me. I have an ...
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The Woman in the Dunes - Abe
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... and political force. The children in the religious school know they're never going to pray to Zeus but they can discuss The Iliad and appreciate allusions in other works to The Odyssey or St. Augustine, and I believe they need to be able to do this to be fully literate and be able to ...
... of note to write a revionsist myth. Jeannette Winterson's Weight covers the myth of Atlas; Alessandro Barrico's An Illiad just came out a about two months ago; others in the series include The Helmet of Horror mentioned by avaland, Lion's Honey by David Grossman, Dream Angus ...
... I did realize afterwards that the list is 110, but it was too late. Also, I believe the Telegraph's list combines The Iliad and The Odyssey into one volume in the detail, but count them as two in the summary to 110.
Also, I did a more detailed comparison to include books in ...
... of note to write a revionsist myth. Jeannette Winterson's Weight covers the myth of Atlas; Alessandro Barrico's An Illiad just came out a about two months ago; others in the series include The Helmet of Horror mentioned by avaland, Lion's Honey by David Grossman, Dream Angus ...
... This also makes me think that I should re-read the Aeneid sometime soon.
I may also start re-reading either the Iliad or the Odyssey this week, inspired by my recent reading of Alberto Manguel's book about Homer and the reception of the Iliad and Odyssey in the 28 or so centuries ...
An interesting hypothetical that does take some thought. Here goes
The Iliad
The Odyssey
War and Peace
The Civil War a Narrative three volumes
Robert Frost Poems, Plays, Prose
The Encyclopedia of World History
Complete Works of William Shakespeare
Hammett Complete Novels
...
... binding for the first edition of The Histories of Herodotus and that this was "artificial leather" quarter binding. My Iliad and my first FS Odyssey had a leather-like binding and the colophon simply stated "quarter leather." The Iliad is fine to this day, but the Odyssey felt tacky ...
... Times and A History of Western Art ), a few really aren't what you'd think of as textbooks -- such as the Iliad and Motherless Brooklyn . Textbook-ness depends on what's on the syllabus, not just how the book's organized.
One thing that bugs me ( polutropos in LT's list of great books you should read : Top 25 (Apr 17, 2008, 8:54pm)
... suggested, with 25 points for first, 24 for second and so on, we will all have to go back and order them.
Odyssey
Iliad
Grimm’s Fairy Tales
The Complete Hans Christian Anderson Fairy Tales
Old Testament
The Good Soldier Svejk (Hasek)
Pride and Prejudice (Austen ...
... has improved through my listening. I have recently listened to two courses from the Teaching Company, one about Homer's Iliad and the other about The Odyssey. Hugely enlightening as well as entertaining. Last week, for something lighter, I listened to Snow Falling on Cedars by David G ...
... Rises
Don Quixote
are what I have read over the last year.
I'm currently working on:
Aenid, the Fagles translation
Iliad , the Fagles translation
Odyssey, the Fagles translation
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... excellent. And I personally love Paradise Lost by John Milton, but the language can be a bit difficult. Then there is The Iliad and The Odyssey, both of which can be found in very accessible translations.
... enjoyed reading Simon Armitage's translation of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. And if that does, then stuff like The Iliad etc would presumably qualify...
... what the font is: I'm a big type snob (maybe it's because I'm a letterpress printer). I just read Fagles' translation of The Iliad set in Dante--it was pleasing.
I will often spend more getting a crisp, lovely new printing of a classic book rather than reading it in a cheap used copy ...
... has been on a rampage lately about having to read The Odyssey. She loves the story but hates the poetic format. Ditto The Iliad . Honors English is just getting started on Animal Farm - can't wait to see what she thinks of IT. (I'm re-reading it myself just to see where they go with it).
I seem to share The Iliad and The Odyssey with a lot.
MrA I actually share 5 books with Alfred Deakin. It says he is from your neck of the woods :)
Famed translator of the classics Robert Fagles died March 26 at the age of 74. He is best known for his versions of The Iliad , The Odyssey and The Aeneid.
... - 3 lists
5) Alice in wonderland
6) The poisonwood bible - 3 lists
7) The diary of Anne Frank 3 lists
8) The Iliad 3 lists
9) War and Peace 3 lists
10) Origin of species 3 lists
11) The grapes of wrath - 2 lists
12) Nineteen eighty four 2 lists
13) Good omens 2 ...
... one day.
However, we *must* stick to War and Peace and Anna Karennina on this thread. I have just looked it up and The Iliad is not on the list ...
... I'm putting off starting it because I can be a compulsive reader and it looks so long! I also have Fagle's translation of The Iliad on the go, and it is taking a while.
I think these are mostly on my Top 25 list already, but here goes:
The Bible
The Epic of Gilgamesh
The Iliad
The Odyssey
Le Petit Prince
The Oresteia
Sophocles' Theban Plays
The Republic
The Arabian Nights
The Communist Manifesto
It is, of course, impossible to limit it to ten, but, in no particular order:
The Iliad and The Odyssey must top the list.
The Bible, of course, and the Qu'ran.
The first novel - Murasaki Shikibu's Tale of Genji, and the poetry of Matsuo Basho.
Dante's Divine Comedy.
...
... the original Old English
15) A Distant Mirror Barbara Tuchman
16) Riverside Shakespeare
17) Riverside Chaucer
18) Iliad and Odyssey -- packaged together
19) By the Light of My Father's Smile Alice Walker
20) The Things They Carried Tim O'Brien
21) A Lesson Before Dying by Ern ...
... in order (though the ranking was sometimes sort of arbitrary and will be revised later):
1. 1984
2. The Bible
3. The Iliad
4. The Epic of Gilgamesh
5. Hamlet
6. The Chronicles of Narnia
7. Lord of the Rings
8. Pride and Prejudice
9. His Dark Materials
10. Le Petit P ...
Based upon the number of times I have read it my favorite book is The Iliad . I have about seven different translations and read it about once a year. For me it is a portrayal of the most basic human emotions, except for love, in their most elemental form. I first read it in my teens and ...
I'm sure I'll revise this later, but for now:
1984
The Bible
The Epic of Gilgamesh
The Iliad
Hamlet
The Chronicles of Narnia
The Odyssey
Lord of the Rings
Le Petit Prince
Pride and Prejudice
... FINISHED
2. Aeneid FINISHED
3. Paradise Lost
4. Divine Comedy
5. MacBeth
6. Gilgamesh
7. Odyssey
8. Iliad
1001 books you must read before you die
1. Birdsong FINISHED
2. Disgrace FINISHED
3. The black dahlia FINISHED
4. The virgin suicides
5. Kafka on the ...
Death of a Salesman should be shot.
I could have done without reading the WHOLE Iliad . Maybe selections? Or an abridged version?
The Scarlet Letter
and Age of Innocence were some of my least favorite high school forced reading
AND I DESPISED Daisy Miller which I didn't even ...
... Jonathan Dunsby
MT - Study of Counterpoint by John J. Fux
N Fine Arts (0/8)
P Language and Literature (7/19)
PA - The Iliad by Homer
PE - Reading Lolita in Tehran by Azar Nafisi
PN - The Indispensable Calvin And Hobbes by Bill Watterson
PQ - The Divine Comedy: Inferno by Dante ...
Storytellers have used poetry since the beginning of language to tell their stories. From GILGAMESH to THE ILIAD and THE ODYSSEY and THE AENEID, from BEOWULF and THE SONG OF ROLAND to Chaucer's CANTERBURY TALES and Shakespeare's VENUS AND ADONIS -- from Milton's PARADISE LOST to T ...
... by Bert Ghezzi, I started The World's First Love by Fulton J. Sheen.
Oh, and I am still plodding through The Iliad . I guess you could call that another "long-term" project...
... 75. The 888 challenge made me think of categories, so here was my first one:
Classics I should have Read by Now
1. Iliad by Homer
2. Beowulf
3. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne finished 2/19/08
4. Ivanhoe by Sir Walter Scott
5. Life on the Mississippi by Mark Twain ...
... literature as possible. So far I've read the first 3 volumes, and I'm nearly halfway through the fourth.
1. Homer, The Iliad and The Odyssey
2. Aeschylus, The Oresteia
3. Herodotus, The Histories
4. Plato, Meno
5. Plato, Gorgias
6. Sophocles, Antigone
7. Plutarch, Gree ...
... member here, just discovered this thread!
I have a 6 year old Golden Retriever, Hector, who I named after Hector in The Iliad - I loved Hector's character and always thought of him as 'golden, shining, noble Hector' and it's a perfect name for our pup too! Plus, we love saying "Oh Hec!" ...
The Iliad also points out the emotions that were the driving forces of individuals in the Greek world. The opening scene with the confrontation between Achilles and Agamemnon was all about pride. That emotion and the desire for glory were driving forces for the heroes in the book. There was no ...
Coragyps,
I am really interested in those passages. I have not read The Iliad , but now I will. Like many folk, I have only read The Odyssey. Thanks for the inspiration.
I wonder if he was delibertly named Homer after works like The Odyssey and The Iliad , in which case, I suppose it's supposed to be funny.
Here's my seemingly impossible question:
If I tried to write you (mandythebookworm) to welcome you to be the 816th poster on the 800 members thread and ...
... list. I know two people who read it in Russian (they're not)--don't you just want to kill them?
This summer I finished The Iliad . Loved it. Great new translation, but I can't remember the translator's name.
Hamlet by Charles Bukowski?
Pride and Prejudice by Albert Camus?
Gone With the Wind by James Baldwin?
The Iliad by Emily Dickinson?
The Da Vinci Code by Franz Kafka?
Homer's translations of The Iliad and The Oddyssey are far from unreadable! We are not supposed to be negative but I cannot let that comment just go. The two Homer epics are particularly meaningful as they show how mankind can make from myth and clay (just as the Holy Catholic Church since ...
... of Venice on the way to, in, and on the way home from Venice (it's a big book!).
Given the opportunity, I would read The Iliad at Hissarlik.
... great idea and a cool bookmark! And how happy does it make this classicist that the book in which said bookmark resides is The Iliad !
... (or anything) I've read by Ackroyd, but it won't be the last! I really enjoyed this book. This was not a retelling of The Iliad (thank goodness) but a fictionalized account of the rediscovery of the lost city of Troy in the nineteenth century. The writing was almost Hemingway-esque, and ...
#84, Yes I feel the same way, I've always loved the story of Odysseus too (as well as The Iliad ) and that's what attracted me to this book as well!
#83 glad to hear someone has read this book and liked it! Should be interesting - I like the premise and setting.
... it had a lot more to do with the historical fiction in my library - and also, perhaps, because I also have The Aeneid, The Iliad and The Odyssey.
With Black Ships, I imagine that people who like historical fiction would enjoy it more than someone who reads a lot of non-fiction about ...
... edition in Wilkie an d Hurt (or my own edition, unpublished, of course).
Last Sat., I finished flying through the Iliad and the Odyssey both the Robert Fitzgerald editions, which I do like a lot!
Now I can go back to my translating the Old Saxon Heliand from the James ...
... translators, and one is an old edition with the Doré illustrations. I have two of the same translation of the Iliad , one with the Leonard Baskin illustrations and one the paperback I read in high school with all my notes. Two copies of The Well of Loneliness, both with Havelock E ...
Started Peter Ackroyd's The Fall of Troy last night. It's not a retelling of the events in the Iliad but rather it's a novel that is based on Schliemann's discovery of the lost city of Troy. The characters are a stout German named Obermann and his young Greek wife, Sophia, whom he has ...
Would adding a Common Knowledge field alter the statistics of how many people own the same work? The Iliad and the Odyssey in relation to the joint volumes The Iliad and The Odyssey are a good example. Would recommendations work as expected?
... of Gilgamesh and The Tale of Sinuhe).
If they're not, I'll probably get to the Bookstore and get new copies of the Iliad and Odyssey, and read them... My current copies were used for class. AKA, they're gratuitously filled with doodles of cyclopes and stick people
... That`s true of the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, it`s certainly true of the two very different Penguin translations of The Iliad that I`ve owned and I recall owning a copy of Plato`s Republic that differed significantly from one owned by a friend.
Questions of interpretation and ...
... The Odyssey, I highly recommend Robert Fitzgerald's translation. I found it very readable. I believe he's also done The Iliad , but I can't speak for its quality.
Epics:
1. the Aeneid
2. Paradiso
3. the Iliad
4. the Odyssey
5. Paradise Lost
6. Beowulf
I think these are sufficiently difficult to not require the full 8 books.
... (which I think runs to about 5 pages or so of text) and some classic Poe stories are in. And where the hell are the Iliad and the Odyssey? How many books that did make it in are not inspired by those two books?
Anyway, I see it as a chance to find books that I never knew about, so I ...
I have Homer listed as the first author in the tag cloud. When I click on it, LT returns no author selected. I have one book in my library by Homer (The Iliad) but Homer doesn't appear elsewhere (in the correct location) in the tag cloud.
Mine, like so many others--is 100. On the top of my list: The Story of a Soul, The Iliad and The Odyssey, all books by Charles Dickens (you would think that would be one author the touchstones would pick up...ugh), as many encyclicals as I can get my hands on, the History of Middle-earth ...
... with Robinson's edition of the original text, The Pillow Book of Sei Shonagon with stunning illustrations, and The Iliad and The Odyssey in the seemingly definitive Fagles translations.
Of recent books, although I cited as a "disappointment" The Towers of Trebizond, in a ...
... me thinking that this is also true of practically all the great Greek tragedies, yes?
So perhaps we shouldn't think of The Iliad as the fount of all these things, just the earliest (and greatest) remaining withdrawal from the same common fund of stories.
As for the heroics, are the ...
Do you have a preference in which translation to read? I have The Iliad and The Odyssey translated by Lattimore in the Great Books Of The Western World edition 1990 and also translated by Robert Fitzgerald.
... was a long time ago, but I remember having to read To Kill a Mockingbird, Things Fall Apart, The Pearl,and pieces of The Iliad and The Odyssey, plus a lot of short fiction like The Rocking Horse Winner. I actually remember the Jr high list better : The Red Badge of Courage, The Red ...
... forum on LT, there's a thread that discusses great works of art that make you weep. A couple of members have mentioned the ILIAD and, in particular, I recall the scene where Trojan king Priam is spirited through Greek lines by the gods in order to plead with Achilles, his son's killer, for the ...
... (see Joseph Campbell ). Traditional epics usually come from oral transmission and are later written (Gilgamesh, The Iliad , The Odyssey, The Ramayana, The Mahabharata, Beowulf, The Song of Roland, etc.). Literary epics are consciously composed, often emulating the ...
... Things (Lucretius' De rerum natura)
882 Classical Greek drama The Oresteia
883 Classical Greek epic poetry & fiction The Iliad
891 East Indo-European & Celtic literature War and Peace
There's also stuff I'm not sure about. I may have read The Crucible (812) and one or another of Se ...
I just finished reading the Samuel Butler prose version of The Iliad and all the way through it I found myself jotting down notes on things for a novel I want to start in January. The book I intend to write has nothing at all in common with The Iliad, but I still found spots where something ...
... is first rate and there is no denying his mastery of the material.
I am continuing to read Richmond Lattimore's Iliad for a class, again with another book, A Companion to the Ilaid by Malcolm M. Willcock. Just to stay with the Greeks I started Paul Roche's translation of Th ...
... is first rate and there is no denying his mastery of the material.
I am continuing to read Richmond Lattimore's Iliad for a class, again with another book, A Companion to the Ilaid by Malcolm M. Willcock. Just to stay with the Greeks I started Paul Roche's translation of T ...
I'm almost through The Iliad , and I've enjoyed it more this time than I have in the past, even though I know I read a version I liked better (in general) years ago. I'm not sure which translation it was, though, and I'm not certain I still own it.
The one thing that has fascinated me, though, ...
... Van Gogh: The Complete Paintings
P (Linguistics) The Language Instinct
PA (Greek Language and Literature) The Iliad
PE (English Language) Made in America
PG (Slavic (etc.) Languages) The Cyberiad
PN (General Literature) Fantasia Mathematica
PQ (French, Spanish (etc.) L ...
... arts education. I think that Hutchins' book is very interesting and reread about once a year.
I wish zette good luck with The Iliad . It is a true classic and I enjoy reading new translations as they come out.
Which is fine for recent reference work that are in the LoC.
But what date would be assigned to BeoWolf or Homer or the various non-US fiction works that aren't in LoC.
Freakonomics
Alexander
Iliad
Mona
Me
... candidate to be reread. Some old favorites like Starship Troopers I read when I want a quick, familiar story. I reread The Iliad and The Odyssey about once every two years. It does help that new translations keep coming out. Sometimes I will just reread a section of a book such as the Ba ...
... said I own, etc. And it's pretty useless. They send announcements excitedly informing me that since I said I owned the Iliad , I might be interested in the new book by this Homer fellow, which turns out, of course, to be a new edition of the Iliad.
42. The Illiad by Homer
43. Harry Potter and the deathly hallows by J. K. Rowling
I always found the fighting in The Iliad very suggestive.
So no, to answer your question, Homer IS in fact pure smut.
... to be read list. The Bhagavad Gita was truly moving, and very different from other Epics.
Greece: The Odyssey and Iliad ; both college reads for me that i'd like to reread sometime soon.
Italy: The Aeneid, a long time ago, reading the Aeneid WAS Latin III - I didn't do very well ...
... Night, by Dorothy L. Sayers
Little Women, by Louisa May Alcott
Rubyfruit Jungle, by Rita Mae Brown
The Iliad , by Homer
The Greek Passion, by Nikos Kazantzakis (don't know why the author touchstone doesn't work!)
... book. I wouldn't call her my favourite author, but the book is right up there on my top... twenty, at least. Homer: The Iliad makes the top three, The Odyssey isn't on the list at all.
I guess what's frustrating to me, is that I feel like the 'favourite author' feature connotes ...
... and that we shouldn't just say "la la la, French is English is Russian, and all these twenty English translations of The Iliad clearly don't differ in any more important way than cover art." Just because children may be too naive to realize when they're reading translations doesn't ...
Under Homer's Iliad is listed "Your mirror to my times; the selected autobiographies and impressions of Ford Madox Ford by Ford Madox Ford (2 copies)". So I click the "separate" link -- and I get this:
"Separate the book The Iliad; the story of Achilles by Homer from the work The Il ...
... Rogers Cooper (2000)
Don't Look Back by Karin Fossum (2002)
Never Kill a Cop by John B. West (1961)
Always Lock Your Bedroom Door by Roy Winsor (1976)
I can hold my list to six:
The Iliad First read when I was 14, have read 15 times since then.
The Maltese Falcon by Dashiell Hammett, I have half of it memorized.
Daughter of Time by Josephine Tey, a great detective story from the facts of history.
The Rise of the West by William McNe ...
... poem. And a book:
The middle passage by V.S. Naipaul
Bring me the head of Oliver Plunkett by Colin Bateman
The Iliad by Homer
Mapp and Lucia by E.F. Benson
Look to windward by Iain Banks
(probably another "dead easy if you know it" one, I fear, and at least one of you ...
... Could someone that has read both let me know if they think that it enhances the reading of Atwood's book? I have read The Iliad , but The Odyssey has yet to be even purchased.
... Shay's Achilles in Vietnam...written by a clinician who treated Vietnam Vets with PTSD ;he compares and sources the The Iliad .thoughtful and universal in its scope.
the Vietnam literature previously mentioned by KromesTomes and rebeccanyc are all excellent...i would add 3 more options: ...
... copy of Fagles' translation of The Aeneid. Can't wait to start on that, as I loved his translations of The Odyssey and The Iliad .
... Smiley is a character with a lot of layers, primarily with the Circus and his relationship with Ann. I am just finishing The Iliad , Achilles is chasing Hector. I like the Fitzgerald translation. I prefer verse translations and Fitzgerald seems not quite as literary as Fagles and less modern ...
... cs
Black Ships Before Troy. The Story Of The Iliad
The Wanderings of Odysseus
The History of the Peloponnesian War
The Iliad
The Odyssey
The Aeneid
Satyricon
Handbook of Epictetus
The Inferno
Fiction
Little Women - READ IT
Black Dahlia -READ IT
The eye of the ...
This is a difficult category. I really have to stretch things a bit.
Encyclopedia of Gods it includes goddesses
The Iliad has references to goddesses
The Illustrated Book of Mythology includes goddesses
Ladies: Retold Stories of Goddesses and Heroines it's the only one that actually ...
The Iliad - Homer
ssd7 in Recommend Site Improvements : Facebook app? (Jun 23, 2007, 7:21am)
... For some small number of books( 2 perhaps) it would give a message like, "Liz has added The Professor and the Madman and The Iliad to her library/"
For larger numbers it would say "Liz has added 25 books to her library." where 25 is a link to a list of the new books.
4) Show when a ...
... Owner's Guide. It is one of the driest, dullest books I've ever had the misfortune of reading from start to finish.
The Iliad and The Odyssey - oh, how I loathe them! I am obsessed with history, archaeology, and mythology yet these stories failed to capture my imagination. Boring, ...
... Front by Erich Maria Remarque
* Great Britain - The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro
* Greece - The Iliad by Homer
* India - The God of Small Things by Arundhati Roy
* Iran - Dakhmeh by Naveed Noori
... went on to the next one. I am sure I will read Smiley's People next. I also have going Robert Fitzgerald translation of The Iliad and Grant takes command two others that I picked up at the book sale. Buying used hardbacks at 30% off is a nice way to fill up your library. Oxford Universit ...
... Tempest all by William Shakespeare
The Oresteia by Aeschylus
Oedipus Rex and Antigone by Sophocles
The Illiad by Homer - be sure to get a good translation
The Aeneid by Vergil - be sure to get a good translation
The Decameron by Boccaccio
The Divine C ...
... so we do comparisons that may have no effect on what we buy or don't, but find interesting.
I just looked up the Iliad , and there are 5,256 books owned by LT members, while the Odyssey has 6,591 (books with both of them reposit in 435 libraries. So, we might infer that people ...
>5 Hera, that's interesting.
I came across an explanation of Homeric style in Introduction to The Iliad of Homer , translated by Richmond Lattimore. It made me pause because of its kinship to Chinese.
In modern storytelling and writing, we try to steer away from the over-used, unoriginal ...
I think that The Iliad is the greater work. I consider the Iliad to be a tragedy that is the first in the tradition of the Greek tragedies. The story of the Iliad centers around the fate of Achilles that is determined by his character. Achilles' pride leads to the "rage", the first word of the ...
I came across an explanation of Homeric style in Introduction to The Iliad of Homer , translated by Richmond Lattimore. It made me pause because of its kinship to Chinese.
In modern storytelling and writing, we try to steer away from the over-used, unoriginal phrase--the cliché. In Home ...
I came across an explanation of Homeric style in Introduction to The Iliad of Homer , translated by Richard Lattimore. It made me pause because of its kinship to Chinese.
In modern storytelling and writing, we try to steer away from the over-used, unoriginal phrase--the cliché. In Homer ...
... part of the story told by Homer is also told by Virgil in his Aeneid, but we won't combine the Aeneid with the Iliad , right?
---Selections from a work are separate from the work itself, partly because they are not the same complete text (not even close) and partly because a 'Selec ...
Homer wrote (or got attributed to them) two "books": the Iliad and the Odyssey. Both contain like 20 chapters ("books"). However, if you look at Homer in LT there's a whole bunch of works.
I have combined Iliad and "the story of Achilles" because Iliad is the story of Achilles, or rather ...
#7 Who is the Lombardo you refer to who translated the Aeneid, the Iliad and the odyssey?
... I'm curious to know your response to Shakespeare's version of the story.
Also, what was Thersites's character like in the Iliad ? What was his role? Thersites is rabid and I disliked him initially; as I encountered him more, I recognized how truthful and funny he really is. He knows ...
... modern work to keep things progressing at a respectable clip. Other classics I plan on getting to in the near future are The Iliad , David Copperfield and The Blind Assassin. Not sure if Atwood qualifies as classic yet, but that's only a matter of time. Anything written by her that I ...
... the Trojan War battles on. A 20th-century classics professor is employed as a Scholic to mark any discrepancies from the Iliad . Oh, and there is a small band of robots who have been sent to destroy Olympus.
...
Binnen het LT-begrip werk doet dat er alles niet meer toe. Om het even welke vertaling van zoals in het voorbeeld de Ilias , behoort er tot hetzelfde werk .
De Ilias is hier wel een bijzonder voorbeeld. Omdat, aldus nog steeds LT, een uitgave van de oorspronkelijke tekst ervan, ...
... leaves spots of colour on the fingers, as well as inside the slipcase. My other volumes from this series, the Aeneid and The Iliad , are fine.
Has anyone else experienced this sticky-leather problem? Is it a production defect, the result of poor storage..? And most importantly, is there any ...
... : the Original publication (copyright) date--might be rather problematic and/or not ready available. Cf. i.a. the Iliad and other ancient texts.
I decided to save The Aeneid untill I have read The Iliad and will instead read Borderland: A Journey Through the History of Ukraine by Anna Reid.
Currently on page:
...It is my considered opinion that the Iliad takes what could later be described as a Heraclitean worldview of the sort subscribed to by any number of people with limited imaginations who require force to accomplish their goals and that the Odyssey has a more nuanced worldview valuing leadership ...
The Iliad and the Odyssey, I have four translations of each
The Daughter of Time great historical fiction
I own all of the Judge Dee mysteries by Robert van Gulik and have read most of them three times
The Guns of August and The Proud Tower Barbara Tuchman classics
Inherit the Wind
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Hallo royalsophietje,
Naar aanleiding van Bericht 4- 5- 6:
Goed werk!
Het lijken me allemaal uitstekende voorstellen.
"Besprekingen" veranderen in "recensies" stond ook al op mijn eigen lijstje.
""aansluiters" kan misschien gewoon "leden aangesloten bij de meeste groepen" worden. Wel ...
... might help make life easier would be the ability to check multiple books for uncombining. So if someone combines The Iliad and The Odyssey, you'd only have to check a slew of boxes and hit "separate" once.
... heretical, I know.) It seems to me that keeping the ancient Greek texts separate doesn't acknowledge that something like The Iliad is one work. Besides, I always imagined that people read Homer in the original because they wanted to read the work and get as close as possible to the ...
> 11
I'm sure that's true. Scholars can also come to blows over which translation of The Iliad is correct, yet we combine those (though not with the original, and there is some question as to combining prose and verse). I don't see why the Bible (or other religious texts) should be an ...
... what's going on. As for "this led to this," save that for college.
I probably would have been more interested in The Iliad , The Odyssey, and The Aenid if they had been presented together, rather than piecemeal between high school and college. Hell, it's like early continuity, and ...
... the case of classics. To take an extreme example, I guarantee you that the copyright dates in any of my several copies of The Iliad are nowhere near the original "publication" date!
... personal wishes on this will not be followed. I think that as much as Tim would like to keep the original Greek editions of The Iliad separate from later translations, they will continue to be combined as more people get used to the work concept.
Besides, where does one draw the line? At ...
I also enjoyed the Lattimore translation of The Iliad , I found it to be more accessible than the Fagles translation although I only read a little of the latter.
Best is pretty subjective, but I find Richmond Lattimore's translation of the Iliad and the Odyssey to be quite good.
Edit: Good if I could spell the guy's name right.
Heyho everybody!
Which would you guys recommend as the best translation of the Iliad ? I've heard good things about Fagles' translation. I want one which is easy and enjoyable to read rather than a straight translation. Any help appreciated, thanks!
For me, it all depends on what type of mood I'm in.
However, I do like...
Epic poems (ala The Iliad and The Odyssey, and modern re-tellings, such as Iliad)
Mystery (I prefer more of a historical theme, but if the main character is good, I'll read it.)
Thrillers (My ...
RE: Helen of Troy. I've never read this book, but I can highly recommend both Illiad and Odyssey of Homer. Lattimore's translations are excellent. The contrast between the two heroes of these two epics is very interesting and signals a change in basic human nature and the concomitant ...
... idea.
Here's the first 14.
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I'd feel less of a philistine if I knew something about the classical world:
The Iliad by Homer
The Odyssey by Homer
The Classical World by Robin Lane Fox
A one volume history of Greece and Rome, hopefully not too heavy. LibraryThing didn't ...
Some of the philosophical concepts are a mystery to me. :-) One combines an 18th century verse translation of The Iliad with a 20th century prose translation, but not the tags "humor" and humour."
I have read about Ancient Greece and Rome longer and more extensively than Ancient China. It began when I read the Iliad for the first time in my teens. Songs and singing in Ancient Greece were used in a variety of contexts. Armies would sing before battle, a singer would provide entertainment ...
...
Sadly, too many people list, or accept from Amazon, the translator or editor as the author. They own rare copies of The Iliad , written by numerous 19th and 20th century writers. :-) Then they combine the two names on the author page, which gives Homer a bizarre set of pen names, and ...
These are my reading goals for 2007:
in chronological order:
The Iliad by Homer, Fagles (currently reading)
The Odyssey by Homer Fagles
Old Testament KJV Job, Genesis
Greek Lyrics by Lattimore
Agamemnon by Aeschylus
Oedipus Rex by Sophocles
Histories by Herodotus
Medea by E ...
#17, 18 OK, OK, you got me. My translation of The Iliad is the Bulgarian one, but Enisladcszk Kzok Volgorkivich. It's so beautiful in Bulgarian.
... That Harper Lee biography rocks, in my humble opinion. I hope you're enjoying it, GeorgiaDawn.
#9- Which translation of The Iliad are you reading, Mutant? I started the Richmond Lattimore translation a couple of years ago, back when I was reading Great Books for one of my book clubs. I ...
I'm reading The Iliad for my book club. Almost done....I think I'll plow right ahead and take on The Odyssey immediately thereafter. These books have been taunting me for years.
It's actually very accessible, not a hard read. But it is quite repetitive, and looonnnng.
... . .
That's a problem. And to me it's a problem that a bunch of very different verse and prose translations of The Iliad are combined into the same work. But I live with it. If I need to find someone who has read the same version(s) I've read, I can always search the records. But ...
Hi, I recently saw this thread and it inspired me to write a review of the Iliad , and my preference for it, that might interest some of you.
Am I the only one who actually prefers The Odyssey to The Iliad ?
(Re #4 marfita): Read The Iliad a few months ago and found some of the long battle scenes a little tedious. Then read The Odyssey and not only enjoyed it much more but suspect it is referenced more often. Am at present reading The Penelopiad by Margaret Atwood and the pleasure is increased ...
... depending on how I feel and what I'm doing. For instance, I've got Team of Rivals, Angel's Fall by Nora Roberts, The Iliad , When We Were Orphans by Kazuo Ishiguro, Jonathan Strange, The Historian, and Pride and Prejudice, among many others. I listen on the train commute, when ...
I agree that Robert Fagles writes a very satisfying translation. I love the downbeat weight of his closing line of The Iliad :
And so the Trojans buried Hector breaker of horses
So much better than the Loeb's:
In this way they held funeral for horse-taming Hector.
... districts), and then again in Intro to Greek Mythology in college.
On the other hand, no one ever forced me through the Iliad , and I can't seem to get through it on my own, so it's languishing on my shelf, about 1/3 read and no progress being made.
... of Robert Fagles' translation of The Aeneid, I am reminded of how much I enjoy his translations of Homer. His Iliad reads like a Shakespearean tragedy.
... to go with the flow this time as I hope to encounter something I wouldn't have read otherwise. But if it's Beowulf or The Illiad or something like that I'm going to pass. I've read the Odyssy translated to swedish and I know that my english isn't good enough to manage it in english. The ...
... back to basics and reading The Once and Future King. I'd also be interested in "being pushed" to read Beowulf, or The Iliad or The Odyssey. Anyone else want to go that far back?
The Iliad and El ingenioso hidalgo don Quijote de la Mancha. (Hmmm, the Touchstones made a dog's brekkers of that. I only capitalized El and the proper nouns. Let's try: Don Quijote. That was better, if over-upper-cased.) Then they can discuss the progression of literature over the ...
... events?
I spent the afternoon at the Harold Washington Library. Stanley Lombardo read from his translation of the Iliad and Derek Collins talked about how it was performed in classical Athens. This evening I'm going to a performance of Christopher Logue's adaptation of the Iliad.
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... what turned out to be an excellent book.
The only books that I can think of that I've started but never finished are The Iliad and Unfinished Tales of Numenor and Middle Earth. Oh, and I read the first paragraph of Dancing with Mosquitoes, and hated the "writing" "style" so badly ...
... nearer to the poetry and 'feel' of Homer, to my mind; if anyone's found a Trypanis translation of the whole thing or The Iliad , I'd be indebted.
Hello-hello,
I have been looking for a good translation of Homer's Iliad in verse. I have one by Robert Fitzgerald, but I don't find it completely satisfactory.
I know there are a lot of English translations of Iliad , and I would love to hear your opinion on which one is the best :)
... go into trade paper.
My understanding was that it was only The Odyssey that was possibly written by a woman, and not The Iliad . That the name Homer was really a catch-all for many people.
... There was a tidbit in the Observer Review (UK) today that said there is a scholar who has proposed that the author of the Iliad and Odyssey may have been a woman...
... For example, I'd have no hesitation in saying that the Richmond Lattimore and Robert Fagels translations of The Iliad should be combined, while Padraic Colum's children's version, The Adventures of Odysseus and the Tale of Troy should not.
However, I'm not so sure about ...
Hm... right now on my bedside table: The Silver Donkey, The Iliad , A Wrinkle in Time, The Girl Who Trod on a Loaf, En Attendant Godot, Tanglewreck, Le petit Nicolas et les Copains, Vampire Loves, Le petit Nicolas, "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!", Within a Budding Grove, G ...
Anyone listened to Stanley Lombardo's recorded performance of the Iliad ? I bought it, but some of the discs were defective and I had to send it back.
(Meta: this is a case where the auto-links perhaps aren't successful. Linking to the title doesn't disambiguate this recorded version from ...
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