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... (and religious, of course) works in western culture. I DID read The Odyssey some years ago, but I haven't read The Iliad yet. And I've got The Koran, but I've never been in the mood for reading it.

... to reading that part. Right now I am reading the Robert Fagles translation of The Odyssey. I read The Odyssey and The Iliad every two to three years. I enjoy them every time. I have the second Library of America Philip Dick volume on the way and am looking forward to that. All this ...

... the complement of σῶμα 'body'. And it already meant the spirits of the departed that went to Hades at the start of the Iliad. But there's some etymology here in the Greek, which I deliberately followed transitively. The original sense of igor.kh in New features : A raft of edition/combination improvements (Jul 2, 2008, 12:24am)

... collection. Think Dracula vs the single volume bundle of Frankenstein, Dracula and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Also think The Iliad and The Odyssey vs the bundle The Iliad and the Odyssey (notice how tochstones work out). The second feature concerns multiple authors. The bibliographic ...

... that the teachers knew something I didn't because I don't remember HATING anything. My almost-15 year daughter HATED The Iliad and The Odessey, but she read them. I pray they don't throw any more epic poems at her - I think it's the format more than anything else.

... been wanting for a long time. I also ordered Don't Look Now and Other Stories, The Gulag Archipelago, Tom Jones, and The Iliad, and, yes, a couple of other ones. There are still more that tempt me; maybe I can order a few more next month! Do the books usually start to sell out? I mean ...

... book snob whenever someone asks what I read. I have probably read 2 fiction books in the last couple of years and they were The Iliad and The Odyssey. Not exactly Stephen King or James Patterson, but it was fiction. I suppose I am the same as those who posted before me. I have an ...

yarb in 50 Book Challenge : Yarb (Jun 12, 2008, 2:26pm)

... thing.com/author/bollheinrich">Böll The Clown - Böll The Iliad - Homer Rouse Up, O Young Men of the New Age! - Oe The Woman in the Dunes - Abe New Grub Str ...

... and political force. The children in the religious school know they're never going to pray to Zeus but they can discuss The Iliad and appreciate allusions in other works to The Odyssey or St. Augustine, and I believe they need to be able to do this to be fully literate and be able to ...

... of note to write a revionsist myth. Jeannette Winterson's Weight covers the myth of Atlas; Alessandro Barrico's An Illiad just came out a about two months ago; others in the series include The Helmet of Horror mentioned by avaland, Lion's Honey by David Grossman, Dream Angus ...

... I did realize afterwards that the list is 110, but it was too late. Also, I believe the Telegraph's list combines The Iliad and The Odyssey into one volume in the detail, but count them as two in the summary to 110. Also, I did a more detailed comparison to include books in ...

... of note to write a revionsist myth. Jeannette Winterson's Weight covers the myth of Atlas; Alessandro Barrico's An Illiad just came out a about two months ago; others in the series include The Helmet of Horror mentioned by avaland, Lion's Honey by David Grossman, Dream Angus ...

... This also makes me think that I should re-read the Aeneid sometime soon. I may also start re-reading either the Iliad or the Odyssey this week, inspired by my recent reading of Alberto Manguel's book about Homer and the reception of the Iliad and Odyssey in the 28 or so centuries ...

wildbill in Book talk : Desert Island Books (May 2, 2008, 10:11am)

An interesting hypothetical that does take some thought. Here goes The Iliad The Odyssey War and Peace The Civil War a Narrative three volumes Robert Frost Poems, Plays, Prose The Encyclopedia of World History Complete Works of William Shakespeare Hammett Complete Novels ...

... binding for the first edition of The Histories of Herodotus and that this was "artificial leather" quarter binding. My Iliad and my first FS Odyssey had a leather-like binding and the colophon simply stated "quarter leather." The Iliad is fine to this day, but the Odyssey felt tacky ...

... Times and A History of Western Art), a few really aren't what you'd think of as textbooks -- such as the Iliad and Motherless Brooklyn. Textbook-ness depends on what's on the syllabus, not just how the book's organized. One thing that bugs me (polutropos in LT's list of great books you should read : Top 25 (Apr 17, 2008, 8:54pm)

... suggested, with 25 points for first, 24 for second and so on, we will all have to go back and order them. Odyssey Iliad Grimm’s Fairy Tales The Complete Hans Christian Anderson Fairy Tales Old Testament The Good Soldier Svejk (Hasek) Pride and Prejudice (Austen ...

... has improved through my listening. I have recently listened to two courses from the Teaching Company, one about Homer's Iliad and the other about The Odyssey. Hugely enlightening as well as entertaining. Last week, for something lighter, I listened to Snow Falling on Cedars by David G ...

... Rises Don Quixote are what I have read over the last year. I'm currently working on: Aenid, the Fagles translation Iliad, the Fagles translation Odyssey, the Fagles translation rich

Talbin in Book talk : Novels that are poems (Apr 7, 2008, 9:44am)

... excellent. And I personally love Paradise Lost by John Milton, but the language can be a bit difficult. Then there is The Iliad and The Odyssey, both of which can be found in very accessible translations.

LizT in Book talk : Novels that are poems (Apr 6, 2008, 11:45am)

... enjoyed reading Simon Armitage's translation of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. And if that does, then stuff like The Iliad etc would presumably qualify...

... what the font is: I'm a big type snob (maybe it's because I'm a letterpress printer). I just read Fagles' translation of The Iliad set in Dante--it was pleasing. I will often spend more getting a crisp, lovely new printing of a classic book rather than reading it in a cheap used copy ...

... has been on a rampage lately about having to read The Odyssey. She loves the story but hates the poetic format. Ditto The Iliad. Honors English is just getting started on Animal Farm - can't wait to see what she thinks of IT. (I'm re-reading it myself just to see where they go with it).

I seem to share The Iliad and The Odyssey with a lot. MrA I actually share 5 books with Alfred Deakin. It says he is from your neck of the woods :)

Famed translator of the classics Robert Fagles died March 26 at the age of 74. He is best known for his versions of The Iliad, The Odyssey and The Aeneid.

... - 3 lists 5) Alice in wonderland 6) The poisonwood bible - 3 lists 7) The diary of Anne Frank 3 lists 8) The Iliad 3 lists 9) War and Peace 3 lists 10) Origin of species 3 lists 11) The grapes of wrath - 2 lists 12) Nineteen eighty four 2 lists 13) Good omens 2 ...

... one day. However, we *must* stick to War and Peace and Anna Karennina on this thread. I have just looked it up and The Iliad is not on the list ...

... I'm putting off starting it because I can be a compulsive reader and it looks so long! I also have Fagle's translation of The Iliad on the go, and it is taking a while.

I think these are mostly on my Top 25 list already, but here goes: The Bible The Epic of Gilgamesh The Iliad The Odyssey Le Petit Prince The Oresteia Sophocles' Theban Plays The Republic The Arabian Nights The Communist Manifesto

It is, of course, impossible to limit it to ten, but, in no particular order: The Iliad and The Odyssey must top the list. The Bible, of course, and the Qu'ran. The first novel - Murasaki Shikibu's Tale of Genji, and the poetry of Matsuo Basho. Dante's Divine Comedy. ...

... the original Old English 15) A Distant Mirror Barbara Tuchman 16) Riverside Shakespeare 17) Riverside Chaucer 18) Iliad and Odyssey -- packaged together 19) By the Light of My Father's Smile Alice Walker 20) The Things They Carried Tim O'Brien 21) A Lesson Before Dying by Ern ...

... in order (though the ranking was sometimes sort of arbitrary and will be revised later): 1. 1984 2. The Bible 3. The Iliad 4. The Epic of Gilgamesh 5. Hamlet 6. The Chronicles of Narnia 7. Lord of the Rings 8. Pride and Prejudice 9. His Dark Materials 10. Le Petit P ...

wildbill in Book talk : Your favorite book? (Mar 19, 2008, 9:26am)

Based upon the number of times I have read it my favorite book is The Iliad. I have about seven different translations and read it about once a year. For me it is a portrayal of the most basic human emotions, except for love, in their most elemental form. I first read it in my teens and ...

I'm sure I'll revise this later, but for now: 1984 The Bible The Epic of Gilgamesh The Iliad Hamlet The Chronicles of Narnia The Odyssey Lord of the Rings Le Petit Prince Pride and Prejudice

RMXtreme in 888 Challenge : RMXtreme's 888 (Mar 15, 2008, 8:14pm)

... FINISHED 2. Aeneid FINISHED 3. Paradise Lost 4. Divine Comedy 5. MacBeth 6. Gilgamesh 7. Odyssey 8. Iliad 1001 books you must read before you die 1. Birdsong FINISHED 2. Disgrace FINISHED 3. The black dahlia FINISHED 4. The virgin suicides 5. Kafka on the ...

Death of a Salesman should be shot. I could have done without reading the WHOLE Iliad. Maybe selections? Or an abridged version? The Scarlet Letter and Age of Innocence were some of my least favorite high school forced reading AND I DESPISED Daisy Miller which I didn't even ...

... Jonathan Dunsby MT - Study of Counterpoint by John J. Fux N Fine Arts (0/8) P Language and Literature (7/19) PA - The Iliad by Homer PE - Reading Lolita in Tehran by Azar Nafisi PN - The Indispensable Calvin And Hobbes by Bill Watterson PQ - The Divine Comedy: Inferno by Dante ...

Storytellers have used poetry since the beginning of language to tell their stories. From GILGAMESH to THE ILIAD and THE ODYSSEY and THE AENEID, from BEOWULF and THE SONG OF ROLAND to Chaucer's CANTERBURY TALES and Shakespeare's VENUS AND ADONIS -- from Milton's PARADISE LOST to T ...

... by Bert Ghezzi, I started The World's First Love by Fulton J. Sheen. Oh, and I am still plodding through The Iliad. I guess you could call that another "long-term" project...

... 75. The 888 challenge made me think of categories, so here was my first one: Classics I should have Read by Now 1. Iliad by Homer 2. Beowulf 3. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea by Jules Verne finished 2/19/08 4. Ivanhoe by Sir Walter Scott 5. Life on the Mississippi by Mark Twain ...

... literature as possible. So far I've read the first 3 volumes, and I'm nearly halfway through the fourth. 1. Homer, The Iliad and The Odyssey 2. Aeschylus, The Oresteia 3. Herodotus, The Histories 4. Plato, Meno 5. Plato, Gorgias 6. Sophocles, Antigone 7. Plutarch, Gree ...

... member here, just discovered this thread! I have a 6 year old Golden Retriever, Hector, who I named after Hector in The Iliad - I loved Hector's character and always thought of him as 'golden, shining, noble Hector' and it's a perfect name for our pup too! Plus, we love saying "Oh Hec!" ...

The Iliad also points out the emotions that were the driving forces of individuals in the Greek world. The opening scene with the confrontation between Achilles and Agamemnon was all about pride. That emotion and the desire for glory were driving forces for the heroes in the book. There was no ...

Coragyps, I am really interested in those passages. I have not read The Iliad, but now I will. Like many folk, I have only read The Odyssey. Thanks for the inspiration.

I wonder if he was delibertly named Homer after works like The Odyssey and The Iliad, in which case, I suppose it's supposed to be funny. Here's my seemingly impossible question: If I tried to write you (mandythebookworm) to welcome you to be the 816th poster on the 800 members thread and ...

... list. I know two people who read it in Russian (they're not)--don't you just want to kill them? This summer I finished The Iliad. Loved it. Great new translation, but I can't remember the translator's name.

Hamlet by Charles Bukowski? Pride and Prejudice by Albert Camus? Gone With the Wind by James Baldwin? The Iliad by Emily Dickinson? The Da Vinci Code by Franz Kafka?

Homer's translations of The Iliad and The Oddyssey are far from unreadable! We are not supposed to be negative but I cannot let that comment just go. The two Homer epics are particularly meaningful as they show how mankind can make from myth and clay (just as the Holy Catholic Church since ...

... of Venice on the way to, in, and on the way home from Venice (it's a big book!). Given the opportunity, I would read The Iliad at Hissarlik.

... great idea and a cool bookmark! And how happy does it make this classicist that the book in which said bookmark resides is The Iliad!

... (or anything) I've read by Ackroyd, but it won't be the last! I really enjoyed this book. This was not a retelling of The Iliad (thank goodness) but a fictionalized account of the rediscovery of the lost city of Troy in the nineteenth century. The writing was almost Hemingway-esque, and ...

#84, Yes I feel the same way, I've always loved the story of Odysseus too (as well as The Iliad) and that's what attracted me to this book as well! #83 glad to hear someone has read this book and liked it! Should be interesting - I like the premise and setting.

... it had a lot more to do with the historical fiction in my library - and also, perhaps, because I also have The Aeneid, The Iliad and The Odyssey. With Black Ships, I imagine that people who like historical fiction would enjoy it more than someone who reads a lot of non-fiction about ...

... edition in Wilkie an d Hurt (or my own edition, unpublished, of course). Last Sat., I finished flying through the Iliad and the Odyssey both the Robert Fitzgerald editions, which I do like a lot! Now I can go back to my translating the Old Saxon Heliand from the James ...

lilithcat in Flaggers! : duplicate reviews (Feb 3, 2008, 6:42pm)

... translators, and one is an old edition with the Doré illustrations. I have two of the same translation of the Iliad, one with the Leonard Baskin illustrations and one the paperback I read in high school with all my notes. Two copies of The Well of Loneliness, both with Havelock E ...

Started Peter Ackroyd's The Fall of Troy last night. It's not a retelling of the events in the Iliad but rather it's a novel that is based on Schliemann's discovery of the lost city of Troy. The characters are a stout German named Obermann and his young Greek wife, Sophia, whom he has ...

Would adding a Common Knowledge field alter the statistics of how many people own the same work? The Iliad and the Odyssey in relation to the joint volumes The Iliad and The Odyssey are a good example. Would recommendations work as expected?

... of Gilgamesh and The Tale of Sinuhe). If they're not, I'll probably get to the Bookstore and get new copies of the Iliad and Odyssey, and read them... My current copies were used for class. AKA, they're gratuitously filled with doodles of cyclopes and stick people

... That`s true of the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, it`s certainly true of the two very different Penguin translations of The Iliad that I`ve owned and I recall owning a copy of Plato`s Republic that differed significantly from one owned by a friend. Questions of interpretation and ...

... The Odyssey, I highly recommend Robert Fitzgerald's translation. I found it very readable. I believe he's also done The Iliad, but I can't speak for its quality.

Epics: 1. the Aeneid 2. Paradiso 3. the Iliad 4. the Odyssey 5. Paradise Lost 6. Beowulf I think these are sufficiently difficult to not require the full 8 books.

... (which I think runs to about 5 pages or so of text) and some classic Poe stories are in. And where the hell are the Iliad and the Odyssey? How many books that did make it in are not inspired by those two books? Anyway, I see it as a chance to find books that I never knew about, so I ...

... of Ivan Ilych by Leo Tolstoy 5. Nicholas Nickleby by Charles Dickens 6. The Pickwick Papers by Charles Dickens 7. The Illiad by Homer 8. 2. First in a Series 1. Knots and Crosses (Inspector Rebus) by Ian Rankin 2. A Morbid Taste for Bones (Brother Cadfael) by Ellis Peters (I'v ...

I have Homer listed as the first author in the tag cloud. When I click on it, LT returns no author selected. I have one book in my library by Homer (The Iliad) but Homer doesn't appear elsewhere (in the correct location) in the tag cloud.

Mine, like so many others--is 100. On the top of my list: The Story of a Soul, The Iliad and The Odyssey, all books by Charles Dickens (you would think that would be one author the touchstones would pick up...ugh), as many encyclicals as I can get my hands on, the History of Middle-earth ...

... with Robinson's edition of the original text, The Pillow Book of Sei Shonagon with stunning illustrations, and The Iliad and The Odyssey in the seemingly definitive Fagles translations. Of recent books, although I cited as a "disappointment" The Towers of Trebizond, in a ...

... me thinking that this is also true of practically all the great Greek tragedies, yes? So perhaps we shouldn't think of The Iliad as the fount of all these things, just the earliest (and greatest) remaining withdrawal from the same common fund of stories. As for the heroics, are the ...

Do you have a preference in which translation to read? I have The Iliad and The Odyssey translated by Lattimore in the Great Books Of The Western World edition 1990 and also translated by Robert Fitzgerald.

... was a long time ago, but I remember having to read To Kill a Mockingbird, Things Fall Apart, The Pearl,and pieces of The Iliad and The Odyssey, plus a lot of short fiction like The Rocking Horse Winner. I actually remember the Jr high list better : The Red Badge of Courage, The Red ...

... forum on LT, there's a thread that discusses great works of art that make you weep. A couple of members have mentioned the ILIAD and, in particular, I recall the scene where Trojan king Priam is spirited through Greek lines by the gods in order to plead with Achilles, his son's killer, for the ...

... (see Joseph Campbell ). Traditional epics usually come from oral transmission and are later written (Gilgamesh, The Iliad, The Odyssey, The Ramayana, The Mahabharata, Beowulf, The Song of Roland, etc.). Literary epics are consciously composed, often emulating the ...

... Things (Lucretius' De rerum natura) 882 Classical Greek drama The Oresteia 883 Classical Greek epic poetry & fiction The Iliad 891 East Indo-European & Celtic literature War and Peace There's also stuff I'm not sure about. I may have read The Crucible (812) and one or another of Se ...

I just finished reading the Samuel Butler prose version of The Iliad and all the way through it I found myself jotting down notes on things for a novel I want to start in January. The book I intend to write has nothing at all in common with The Iliad, but I still found spots where something ...

... is first rate and there is no denying his mastery of the material. I am continuing to read Richmond Lattimore's Iliad for a class, again with another book, A Companion to the Ilaid by Malcolm M. Willcock. Just to stay with the Greeks I started Paul Roche's translation of Th ...

... is first rate and there is no denying his mastery of the material. I am continuing to read Richmond Lattimore's Iliad for a class, again with another book, A Companion to the Ilaid by Malcolm M. Willcock. Just to stay with the Greeks I started Paul Roche's translation of T ...

I'm almost through The Iliad, and I've enjoyed it more this time than I have in the past, even though I know I read a version I liked better (in general) years ago. I'm not sure which translation it was, though, and I'm not certain I still own it. The one thing that has fascinated me, though, ...

... Van Gogh: The Complete Paintings P (Linguistics) The Language Instinct PA (Greek Language and Literature) The Iliad PE (English Language) Made in America PG (Slavic (etc.) Languages) The Cyberiad PN (General Literature) Fantasia Mathematica PQ (French, Spanish (etc.) L ...

... arts education. I think that Hutchins' book is very interesting and reread about once a year. I wish zette good luck with The Iliad. It is a true classic and I enjoy reading new translations as they come out.