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What books do you own and feel guilty about not having read yet? Godel Escher and Bach Owned it for a year and haven't even cracked it for fear of finding myself out of my league. The Name of the Rose Started twice but couldn't get more than 50 pages in. The Complete Works of William ...

Just finished Bill Bryson's Neither Here Nor There today. About a week into Gödel, Escher and Bach by Hofstadter - very interesting book, and surprisingly not outdated, despite being written 20 years ago

... Russell Martin Barbecue with Beard by James Beard Goldilocks and the Three Bears Nappy Hair by Carolivia Herron Godel, Escher, Bach: an eternal golden braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter

... the universe, who knows? Maybe it's an emergent property of the universe that folds back in time on itself, like mind in Godel, Escher, Bach. I have no idea, but it's interesting to think about. I just don't think that the current level of human understanding is all there is, although we have ...

... of my favorites: The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, by William Shirer The Proud Tower, by Barbara Tuchman Godel, Escher and Bach: The Eternal Golden Braid, by Douglas Hofstadter The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt, by Edmund Morris Enduring Grace, by Carol Flinders ...

Godel, Escher, Bach The Tao of Physics The Language of the Night The Road Less Traveled Iron John The Universe Is a Green Dragon The Turning Point

Godel, Escher, Bach is actually a good one for him. He's a math/philosophy person. Also, he just did read 1984. He's got a library job for the summer so he's reading quite a bit.

I read Godel, Escher, Bach in college and was pretty blown away by it.

... my local book club, The Man in My Basement by Walter Mosley. I want to pick up Douglas Hofstader again, and finish Godel, Escher, Bach before starting I Am a Strange Loop. FWIW, to those who posted last week, Ngaio Marsh stories are terrific. As with all character-series, best ...

That hurt my brain... I was supposed to be doing a group read on Book Talk of Godel, Escher, Bach but it sort of died away...Too many strange loops making us bug-eyed, I guess.

I suspect most Hampshire students take a two-year seminar in Godel, Escher, Bach. Snideness aside, Hampshire may be it's own little universe, but Smith and Holyoke are excellent schools. I think some of the reaction against SATs is a reaction against the test-prep industry. I know of some ...

Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter Music, art, artificial intelligence, neuroscience, formal logic, philosophy, genetics, mathematics: how could one not enjoy a book which brings together such a grab-bag of subjects and successfully demonstrates that ...

Yeah, I'm a little behind with Godel, Escher, Bach too. No excuse other than I have lots of demands on my time...

Still plodding along in Godel, Escher, Bach - I've fallen a bit behind in the group read because I had some out-of-town company and then got sick. Also still reading Charles Darwin's Voyage of the Beagle Richard Dawkins' A Devil's Chaplain John Stuart Mill's Considerations ...

Engaged in the group read of Gödel, Escher, Bach going on over at Book Talk under the auspices of the Philosophy and Theory group I decided to take a break this weekend with a thriller, William Gibson's Spook Country. Here's what I wrote about it: I'm aware of no one writing now who ...

The books nearest me and the computer at this moment are: Godel, Escher, Bach -- this is being discussed now in a thread at: http://www.librarything.com/talktopic.php?topic=33412 God : Alexander Waugh - not sure I'm going to finish this. The Nine Emotional Lives of Cats - perceptive ...

... Autumn of the Middle Ages. Science: Galileo Galilei, both Sidereus Nuncius and Two new sciences. Philosophy: Gödel, Escher, Bach; Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logo-Philosophicus; Nietzsche, Thus spake Zarathustra

There's a cross-group read of Gödel, Escher, Bach going on in Book Talk. It will take place in several threads over the course of several months, but the first thread is here.

My copy of Godel, Escher, Bach was given to me by my mother in 1980. I think it is Douglas R. Hofstadter's best book. I have sung a little bit of Bach and it can be difficult, but there is a great deal of satisfaction if your choral group gets it all right. This sometimes may only ...

... ary: You said what?: lies and propaganda throughout history Looking for Hamlet The Basque history of the world Godel, Escher, Bach is a favorite of mine, hope you enjoy it!

... by Philip Pettit Come Hell or High Water: Hurricane Katrina and the Color of Disaster by Michael Eric Dyson Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter Who Knew? Responsibility and Awareness by George Sher (forthcoming) and I think today, I'll ...

vpfluke in Book talk : Godel, Escher, Bach (Mar 27, 2008, 11:02pm)

I finally found my copy of Godel - the cover is so faded at this point, I missed seeing it on my shelf. I got it as a birthday gift in 1980.

... Alice PS - The Alchemist's Journal PT - The Brothers Grimm Complete Fairy Tales PZ - Delta of Venus QA - Godel, Escher, Bach QB - Longitude: The True Story of a Lone Genius Who Solved the Greatest Scientific Problem of his Time QC - The Dancing Wu Li Masters: An Overview ...

I guess that is Douglas Hofstadter of Godel, Escher, Bach fame? It was crossposted to the math group that some folks are doing a group read of that. I may give it another try; I remember giving up on it in undergrad because it ...

Hey philosophers, some of us are trying to get together a group read of Hofstadter's Godel, Escher, Bach - if you're interested in joining us, we're over here. Cheers :)

>4 OK I'm also currently reading from: 320 Political science: Rights of Man by Thomas Paine 510 Mathematics: Godel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter

... Life, which I've had going since roughly November. (And a whole bunch of fiction, besides). I still claim to have Godel, Escher, Bach going on in the background, but I expect I won't make any real progress on that front until this summer when I can devote more attention to it. Today ...

... by N. Scott Momaday Beloved by Toni Morrison •Non-Fiction The Denial of Death by Ernest Becker Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter In Cold Blood by Truman Capote The Varieties of Scientific Experience: A Personal View of the Search ...

P_S_Patrick in Science! : Owned but unread (Feb 17, 2008, 8:58pm)

I see Godel, Escher, Bach being mentioned a fair bit here. I'm currently plowing through it, and have only about a hundred pages left. I admit it can seem a bit hard to get your head round sometimes, but I think it's worth the effort and is truly fascinating in places. My nomination is the The ...

#9: Godel, Escher Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstadter Jeez, this one was a long read. It diverges a lot, sometimes spending 30-50 pages to explain things that are only casually related to the main topic before getting back to the point. Was interesting overall, though.

Argh, I accidentally closed this window while going back and forth to my catalogue to look for books. Here's my list: Gödel, Escher, Bach Reading the Past Seventy Great Mysteries of the Ancient World The Study of Greek Inscriptions The Subtle Knife Brave New Wor ...

... and less likely the more times I refresh the dag-nabbed talk page on LT. *sigh* Also... still have Herodotus, Godel, Escher, Bach, and The Examined Life going on in the background. Made pretty decent progress in the Nozick over the past few days.

#34 I believe that's exactly how divination works. This thread is making me want to go back and read Godel, Escher, Bach.

... work my way through the essays in Philosophy & Democracy, edited by Thomas Christiano. Still have Herodotus, Godel, Escher, Bach, and The Examined Life going somewhere in the background. Right now, Godel, Escher, Bach is getting the most attention out of the three.

mollishka in Science! : Owned but unread (Jan 28, 2008, 7:59pm)

... can be made about Zwiebach's First Course in String Theory. But it seems that I, like everyone else, have owned Godel, Escher, Bach for years without reading it; definitely one of my goals for this year. I've tried reading The First Three Minutes several times, but the book is so ...

... along in three that I've been working on seemingly forever - Herodotus, The Examined Life by Robert Nozick, and Godel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter. I also started Amartya Sen's Inequality Reexamined yesterday and got about halfway through. Should finish that one ...

Hofstadter beschrijft in Le Ton Beau dat hij voor iedere vertaling van Godel Escher Bach intensief contact met de vertalers heeft en zich zelfs verdiept in de doeltaal om beter te kunnen assisteren. Een van de dilemma's is of je een boek localiseert of niet. Dwz, moet je het bijwonen van een ...

Godel, Escher, Bach: I've possessed it for years and have yet to crack it. Pulled it off the shelf just now to check the spelling and put it right back.

Ghostmonkey in Science! : Owned but unread (Jan 9, 2008, 3:02am)

Man, I wish I'd never read Gödel, Escher, Bach what a waste of my time! Also, I'd like to second The Road to Reality and nominate God Created the Integers and On the Shoulders of Giants. All of them seem super interesting, it's just a long and hard slog through ultra-antiquated writing ( ...

_Zoe_ in 888 Challenge : Zoe's 888 (Dec 29, 2007, 5:34pm)

... of Greek Mathematics, Volume 1 Lavoisier in the Year One Innumeracy Why Johnny Can't Add The Sleepwalkers Godel, Escher, Bach The Mystery of the Aleph The Exact Sciences in Antiquity 8 Classics Books The Study of Greek Inscriptions (cross-list) Mythology (cross-list ...

... Mathematics, Volume 1 Lavoisier in the Year One (cross-list) Innumeracy Why Johnny Can't Add The Sleepwalkers Godel, Escher, Bach The Mystery of the Aleph The Exact Sciences in Antiquity 8 Classics Books The Study of Greek Inscriptions (cross-list) Mythology (cro ...

... Rawls' Theory of Justice. Finally started The Examined Life by Robert Nozick, and I'm claiming to have started Godel, Escher, Bach, but in truth I haven't had any time to devote to it, and so haven't gotten past the very beginning.

*does a cartwheel* After months of patiently waiting, searching, investigating... I *finally* happened upon a copy of Godel, Escher, Bach at the HPB near my house today. Practically jumped right off the shelf at me. Yippee!

... topics o 508 Natural history o 509 Historical, areas, persons treatment * 510 Mathematics - Gödel, Escher, Bach : an eternal golden braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter o 511 General principles o 512 Algebra & number theory o 513 ...

I'd have to say Godel, Escher, Bach was one of my favorites, even as a computer science and math major it definitely was an interesting look at everything. I think a good math popularization doesn't leave mathematicians behind personally, it's accessible to everyone. Personally, I also really ...

Godel, Escher, Bach isn't nearly as intimidating as its size or subject matter would suggest. I read it for a course on Math and Music and found it quite interesting not to mention entertaining at times. Good luck with it and I hope you enjoy it.

... ago (1980's) was Bridges to Infinity: the human side of mathematics by Michael Guillen. A quite well-know 510 book is Godel, Escher, Bach: an eternal golden braid by Douglas Hofstadter. This book is almost literary, and I think over 3,000 LTers own it. For 599, there is Deep Ancest ...

... eakonomics 508 Natural history: Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science or Pilgrim at Tinker Creek 510 Mathematics: Gödel, Escher, Bach 530 Physics: Flatland and Sphereland 576 Genetics and evolution: The Blind Watchmaker 591 Zoology: Last Chance to See 610 Medical sciences; Me ...

... Leopold 508 Natural History - Cultivating Delight: A Natural History of My Garden by Diane Ackerman 510 Mathematics - Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter 611 Human anatomy, cytology, histology - Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers by Mary Roa ...

rdurick in Book talk : What are you rereading? (Sep 28, 2007, 12:26am)

... very likely get more attention. I am surprised that I haven't memorably reread nonfiction. I started once to reread Godel, Escher, Bach, but grad school, full time work, and other contingencies kept me from it. I expect sometime soon to reread some Nietzsche, but I can't remember, ...

Oh, and if anyone wants a laugh, one of the things I've vowed to do before I'm 40 is to read Godel, Escher, Bach... oh blimey.

I just picked up a copy of Godel, Escher, Bach by Douglas R. Hofstadter, and, upon adding it my library, I can see 3400+ other member have a copy ... my question: how many have actually read it all the way through? (Confession: This is one of those books I felt I "needed" in my library, ...

... way of thinking about physics. Mathematics is a tougher hurdle; I guess Chaos : making a new science by Gleick and Godel, Escher, Bach are good starts. Best advise of all, though: find a library with back issues of Scientific American, and catch up on the last 10-15 years or so. The ...

wester in Science! : Owned but unread (Aug 11, 2007, 9:53am)

I have actually read the origin of species, I thought it was quite readable. I don't think I'll ever finish Gödel, Escher, Bach- all those exercises! And about The origin of consciousness in the breakdown of the bicameral mind - I'll make do with the synopsis in Up from Eden. Probably ...

Golden, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter The Golden Spiders by Rex Stout The Chinese Gold Murders by Robert van Gulik Gold Coast by Elmore Leonard The Temple of the Golden Pavilion by Yukio Mishima

Godel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter Songs of Innocence and Experience (The Illuminated Books of William Blake, Volume 2) by William Blake The Song of Hiawatha by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow Lullaby by Chuck Palahnuik The Piper on the Mountain by Ellis Peters

... the behavior of the wasp on the previous page. Dennett goes on to explain what such an explanation might look like. A Godel, Escher, Bach: an eternal golden braid for pigs. Dennett answers your question re: the chess playing computer on page 69. Indeed, it is the crux of his argument. ...

I just delved into I Am a Strange Loop by Douglas Hofstadter who penned Godel, Escher, Bach 28 years ago. Yikes! 28 years? I am getting old. I'm sure this one won't be a quick read as human consciousness is one of the great slippery subjects of all time. Hopefully, I'll get through without ...

... couldn't ask for a better example of fine social distinctions! The recs for "Annotated" include Name of the Rose and Godel, Escher, Bach, clearly showing the appeal this volume has to adults interested in the mathematical games and other aspects of the text. The recs for "Alice" are, as ...

... to pick up another of his books, Mr. Muo's travelling couch. I hope it's as good as the other one! I am also reading Gödel, Escher, Bach: an eternal golden braid but I need to pause it frequently and think about it

... Geometry, Relativity and the Fourth Dimension), as are Eli Maor's. There's always Flatland, of course. And Godel, Escher, Bach is a personal favorite.

Not a story, but chain of sorts: Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hofstader Braid lace for today by Jennifer Fisher Living today for God by Frere Roger God Godel And Grace: A Philosophy Of by Clifford Goldstein Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Go ...

Clutch of Constables the Golden Key M.C. Escher Kaleidozyklen Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid With Henry Moore: The artist at work

Forever Amber Net of Jewels Bush Pilot in Diamond Country The Golden Bough Godel, Escher, Bach: The Eternal Golden Braid

Going back to the thread topic, one of the most intriguing books I ever read was Godel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter. I didn't notice it mentioned above. I recently saw in the bookstore I Am A Strange Loop, a new Hofstadter book on basically the same subjects, now from the perspective of ...

... a woman who hikes the Appalachian Trail at sixty, because my wife started doing it at fifty. Douglas Hofstadter's Godel, Escher, Bach, because I love thinking across disciplines. Jonathon Kozol's Savage Inequalities, because I'm deeply interested in education and fairness Moll ...

vpfluke in Science! : Owned but unread (May 26, 2007, 5:13pm)

I did read Gödel, Escher, Bach : an eternal golden braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter, but couldn't get through Metamagical themas or The Mind's I. I did get most of the way through Le ton beau de Marot : in praise of the music of language. This is kind of a paean to the French language. ...

... in a single human brain than there are humans in the biggest crowd we know - the entire population of the world. In Gödel, Escher, Bach: An eternal golden braid, Douglas R. Hofstadter illustrates the notion of an intelligent collective by having an aardvark (if I remember correctly) ...

... by Jaroslav Hasek Xerxes Invades Greece (Penguin Epics) by Herodotus Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse Godel, Escher, Bach : An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter Against Nature (Penguin Classics) by Joris-Karl Huysmans The Curious Life of Robert Hooke ...

Ah yes ...that's Godel's Theorem isn't it? Must get around to finishing Godel, Escher, Bach

logic in Science! : Owned but unread (Apr 9, 2007, 5:17am)

... Newton-Cartan spacetime! It is well worth skimming, esp the criticism of postmodern physics. One day I will finish Godel, Escher, Bach, Warped Passages, and Emporer's New Mind. Dover Publications is notorious for claiming books are easy, when they are not. Book titles mean ...

Yiggy in Science! : Cafe Scientifique Books (Mar 17, 2007, 2:53am)

... Science Gary Marcus's The Birth of the Mind Stephen Pinker's How the Mind Works Complex Systems Hofstadter's Godel, Escher, Bach Science, General Carl Sagan's Cosmos Any of the Best American Science Writing series Science, History of Carl Zimmer's Soul Made Flesh ...

BTRIPP in Too Obscure : Obscurity ... (Feb 4, 2007, 2:23pm)

... of obscurity. At the moment I have a 13/216 "obscurity rating" (which will no doubt jump way up when I finish reading Godel, Escher, Bach with its 2,094 members), yet nearly 17% of my library is not shared with anybody (and another 5% or so is only shared with one other user). It really ...

... Sorcery and Cecelia, which I just barely started last night. I'm also partway through The Prestige; The Sleepwalkers; Gödel, Escher, Bach; Theories of the World from Antiquity to the Copernican Revolution; The Exact Sciences in Antiquity; Episodes from the Early History of Mathematics ...

... at the moment (in 20 days time to be exact), and also because I could see parallels with other books I liked (especially Godel, Escher and Bach, which is a kind of glass bead game in itself). I think it is described by many as being Hesse's best, so maybe you should try it as a final ...

Gödel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter (which I've already read more than half of, but just the part remaining counts as a big book!) The Classical World: An Epic History of Greece and Rome by Robin Lane Fox (also started, but barely) The Sleepwalkers by Arthur Koestler ( ...

... the map is not the territory. It also prepared me to appreciate the field of neurolinguistics. Douglas Hofstadter: Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid. I have not been able to complete this book, after trying many times. It is very compelling and difficult. The major thing I ...

... map is not the territory. It also prepared me to appreciate the field of neurolinguistics. Douglas R. Hofstedter : Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid. I have not been able to complete this book, after trying many times. It is very compelling and difficult. The major thing I ...

_Zoe_ in Science! : Owned but unread (Dec 8, 2006, 1:18pm)

I can't believe you said that about Gödel, Escher, Bach! What did you dislike about it so much? I'd think he at least deserves credit for the stories at the beginning of each chapter and for the explanation of the incompleteness theorem, if nothing else. I'm admittedly just over halfway ...

knecht in Science! : Owned but unread (Dec 8, 2006, 4:51am)

... a couple of paragraphs? Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond. Sorry, but anthropology is just boring. And of course Godel, Escher, Bach is painful nonsense that must be the work of the world's worst dinner party guest.

... Niebuhr The creation of patriarchy by Lerner Discipline and punish : the birth of the prison by Foucault Gödel, Escher, Bach : an eternal golden braid by Hofstadter

... adobe spent ages on a version of adobe reader for PDAs. It was horrendous. can you imagine reproduceing the typography of Godel, Escher, Bach on a PDA it just wont work. Yet publisher used this format and wondered at the small sales. They were selling only to people who had a bloody big ...

... I normally ignore, and so on. I found huge amount of good reads thru it - An instance of the fingerpost, Tooth Fairy, Gödel, Escher, Bach, "Surely you're joking, Mr. Feynman!", A Pattern Language, anything by Georgette Heyer and Antonia Forest, etc.

... by Alison Lurie - Fountains Abbey The Poems of Wilfred Owen (Stallworthy edition) - Tynemouth Castle And Priory Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid - um, this just says John The Science Of The HitchHiker's Guide To The Galaxy - Historic Locomotives (Puffing Billy, Rocket ...

mosshead in Science! : Owned but unread (Sep 10, 2006, 4:53pm)

What are the top science books that everyone buys, and almost no one actually reads? My nominations: Gödel, Escher, Bach and A Brief History of Time.

... A Return to Modesty, definitely. And Robert Fulghum's All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten. Gödel, Escher, Bach is on my list of books to read (and it's on its way from Amazon to my doorstep as we speak :)).

The first books that come to mind that made me think would have to be Gödel Escher Bach by Douglas R. Hofstadter and Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert M. Pirsig. Also, anything by Umberto Eco, Jorge Luis Borges, Steven Pinker, and Richard Powers get ...

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