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Timaeus and Critias (Penguin Classics) (edition 1972)

by Plato

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Timaeus and Critias by Plato

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The most famous of Raphael’s frescoes in the Apostolic Palace at the Vatican, the one commonly referred to as "The School of Athens," shows Plato talking with Aristotle while carrying a copy of Timaeus and pointing to the sky. Did Raphael foresee the scientific revolution that was to come over the next century, and how much the new science would reinforce ideas first expressed by Plato in Timaeus?

The scientific revolution undermined Scholasticism not by challenging theological principles or the New Testament, but by challenging the geocentric Aristotelian-Ptolemaic model that was the basis for Christian cosmology. Aquinas had been inspired by Aristotle’s emphasis on substance, properties and causes, but the work of Copernicus, Galileo and Newton described the world in terms of Platonic mathematical forms, mechanics and invariant laws of motion. Modern science has since confirmed the validity of the Platonic vision over the Aristotelian.

Timaeus is the earliest known work expressing a scientific view of the universe. Plato established a set of premises, deduced from those premises a set of propositions according to precise rules of inference, then set out to discover whether those propositions corresponded with the experience of the senses. Plato deployed mathematics to express and deduce the consequences which derived from the postulated axioms, though his mythical language obscured his methods. More than 1500 years later, his insights bore fruit. Copernicus in the early 16th c. disputed the Aristotelian cosmology with mathematical calculations, and everything from particle physics to cosmology today proceeds along lines laid down by Plato in Timaeus. Quantum field theory, as an example, can only be expressed in mathematical terms.

I read the 2008 translation by Robin Waterfield, then read the introductions to other editions by Benjamin Jowett, Peter Kalkavage and Donald Zeyl (all available as free Kindle samples). Each had something distinctive to say. The different perspectives enriched my understanding and appreciation of this complex text, as did a lecture I heard by Lawrence Cahoone at Holy Cross. It was amusing to read Jowett insist (in the 1870s) that modern readers had little interest in Plato’s cosmology, then have Zeyl in 2000 comment on the importance of Timaeus in light of advances in 20th c. physics. ( )
  HectorSwell | Apr 24, 2014 |
Transalted by Desmond Lee
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Taking the form of dialogues between Socrates, Timaeus, Critias and Hermocrates, these two works are among Plato's final writings. In Timaeus, he gives a thorough account of the world in which we live, describing a cosmos composed of four elements earth, air, fire and water which combine to give existence to all things. An exploration of the origins of the universe, life and humanity, which outlines not just physical laws but also metaphysical and religious principles, it remained a paradigm of science for two thousand years. The mysterious preamble to Timaeus contains the first account in literature of Atlantis, while the fragmentary Critias, unfinished by its author, provides a spellbinding description of the lost continent's ideal society, which Critias asserts was created by the god-like children of Poseidon himself.

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