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The Butlerian Jihad (Legends of Dune, Book 1) (original 2003; edition 2002)

by Brian Herbert

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Title:The Butlerian Jihad (Legends of Dune, Book 1)
Authors:Brian Herbert
Info:Tor Books (2002), Hardcover, 624 pages
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10,000 years before Dune, really cool ( )
  BookstoogeLT | Dec 10, 2016 |
Obrigado ao Brian Herbert por ter decidido partilhar a visão do início do universo de Dune. Foi uma leitura muito gratificante e bem construída que começa a dar pistas sobre:
1 - Como shai-hulud começou a ser venerado em Arrakis
2 - donde surge o interesse pela especiaria que depois leva à exploração e desejo louco por Arrakis
3 - O papel de uma anã inventora Norma Cenza, vai-se revelar vital no conceito mais fascinante de Dune (folding space ou seja viajar entre 2 pontos quase sem movimento)
4 - A eternal disputa entre Atreides e Harkonnen pode surgir do amor de 2 homens por Serena Butler, uma mulher de causas pelos mais fracos
5 - conseguimos perceber donde surgem os primeiros Fremen
Além dos pontos do início da saga ficamos a saber que os planetas estão invadidos por máquinas que dominam e escravizam vários planetas sincronizados por Omnius evermind, uma máquina incessante na sua vontade destruidora, que surgiu após os Titans, um grupo de humanos insatisfeitos com a ordem antiga, que decidiu abdicar dos seus corpos humanos e transferir os seus cérebros para corpos mecânicos indestrutíveis. Isto leva a uma Guerreiro sangrenta entre máquinas, cymeks com cérebros humanos e of humanos livres das máquinas mas que escravizam pessoas.
Muitos contrasensos no início da saga Dune, que nos apresenta os primeiros heroís que vão lutar com as máquinas que parecem imbatíveis.
Serena Butler é uma mártir que perdeu quase tudo às mãos do robot Erasmus que fax experiências com humanos.
Xavier Harkonnen é o seu marido que passou por muito e Vor Atreides o filho do cymek Agamemnon e ambos amam Serena Butler.
Valeu a pena explorar o início de Dune e vou dar continuidade à leitura delta saga
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  bruc79 | Mar 27, 2016 |
The Butlerian Jihad is a tantalizingly-alluded-to history from Frank Herbert's Dune series. This is set 10,000 years before the events of Dune and is the precursor to the Great House books Brian has also wrote. This was difficult for me to finish. Which is probably why it took me 2 months. I'd start and almost immediately get bored and stop. I love Dune by Frank Herbert, but I'm not sure that these "prequels" that Brian has added are for me. I didn't connect with really any of the characters. It served mostly as a history class for this world. I like getting the stories behind events mentioned in the later books, but there seemed to be a disconnect between the author(s) and the characters. I knew going into it that the prose would vary greatly from Senior. His stories flowed and ebbed to build. Brian's story here is episodic and I felt it was abrupt at that.

I also see where Brian and Kevin both took liberties with the timelines suggested in the original Dune series, and their interpretations of many Frank Herbert's hints are entirely too literal. The obvious and unimaginative interpretation of slavery under the machines is a good example. It seemed pretty clear that the slavery referred to in Dune was a voluntary dependence on thinking machines that increasingly weakend the human race. That's the basis of the religious connotation implied in the Jihad--not an afterthought intended to make a potentially unpopular war more appealing to the people. The characters in Dune remembered that the Great Revolt was headlong and uncontrolled, a blurry and bloody time in history that vented unimaginable excesses of violence and terror. Not the lackluster, even boring battles described. This history is not the kind of history that would give birth to the Great Convention, solidify the already existing Great Schools, or build the conventions of the Dune universe.

When a writer decides to continue a work or world that someone else created, there is no option but to compare. That, is probably the biggest set back for me. I went from knowing the Dune universe to reading a space opera written like pulp. It's not bad, it just falls short for the world most have come to know and love. ( )
  jessica_reads | Mar 24, 2015 |
Jesus only hung on the cross for three days. I have read four hundred and fifty-four PAGES of Dune: The Butlerian Jihad.

And I did it to save your soul.


When I was ten years old I was quite precocious. I read and loved Asimov's Foundation trilogy, and had a voracious appetite for new books. So I picked up Frank Herbert's Dune without a second thought.

I never saw it coming.

A hundred pages later I was startled to feel tears pouring down my young face; tears of pure frustration. The book was hard, too hard and complex for my ten-year-old mind to cope with. In a fit of fury, I threw the book across the room.

I hated Dune for years. Herbert, too. But my reading speed is way too fast, so by the time I was sixteen or so I couldn't avoid reading some other Herbert books. Not in the Dune series, of course - the memory of those tears still stung - but Whipping Star. It was also hard, quite complex, but not (I thought) as hard as Dune had been. It certainly made me think.

And more and more I came to realize that it was a damned impressive book, one worth reading again and again. The concepts were difficult to grasp, but each re-reading brought something new, a fuller understanding; and it was a really good book. So I looked up the sequel (also good, although not quite as endearing). I looked up other short stories that Herbert had set in the same universe. Excellent, and all too rare. From there it was natural to move into Herbert's other short science fiction; the early stuff was a little bit clunky and formulaic, but the later stories were masterful and quite deep.

And so of course I found myself moving, step by step, back to Dune.

And it was good.

Not perfect, but very very good indeed; it could easily even be called "great". Over the years my mind had developed enough to be able to take on Frank Herbert's vision and comprehend it. I went on to read all the books in the series, and while some of the later ones were uneven, I enjoyed them all.

Cut to 2003. I am desperately poor, struggling to pay the mortgage and support my family (including our toddler) on a single income. This is a deadly situation. Where once I went to Avenue Victor Hugo and other great used bookstores at least two or three times a week and bought a dozen books at a time, now I haven't picked up even ONE new book - new or used - in months.

Thank Shai-Halud for the public library! I hadn't been to the library in years, but I started taking Sebastian (my son) there on Saturday mornings. He loved it. While the Woonsocket library is comparatively small and poorly-stocked, it still has a number of books worth reading - and of course far more are available through inter-library loan.

Since I spend two hours a day on the train, I need lots of reading material...so I've been taking out a lot of books. I'll write about most of them later, but right now there's one that is crying, screaming, howling for treatment.

The Son Is Not The Father

Oh dear god. I cannot express the horror. The sheer...stupidity that is Dune: The Butlerian Jihad. Frank Herbert wrote with incredible depth and complexity, giving hints of a world far deeper than the portion he showed in his books. It gave a feeling of magic, a sensation of thousands of years of unknown (and unknowable) history underlying every paragraph. At the same time he took elements of modern culture and extrapolated from them brilliantly.

I will be kind to Brian Herbert, Frank's son. His hands should not be cut off. He simply commited the sin of cashing in on his famous father's talent, and prostituting his family name - which is unforgivable, since he isn't a writer. But he should never have been allowed to "write" a book, particularly not a Dune book.

Good god, he sucks. The writing is dreadful; where his father's prose was complex, Brian's is not just simplistic, but downright childish - even moronic. Where Frank used hidden depths to intrigue and add luster, Brian has taken many of those elements and simply ruined them, directly tying them to modern Earth issues and repeating them over and over. Frank had the gift of names, occasionally tying them in with ancient Earth history; Brian names ALL of his characters after famous historical figures from Earth history, for NO &^%#ing REASON.

Ah yes. Over and over. The degree of repetition in this hellish book is more extreme than anything I have ever seen in my life. EVERY point is hammered home with astonishingly dull and lifeless prose, and then repeated again every twenty pages or so. EVERY moral point (cretinous as they are) is made so clear that a vegetable couldn't help but get it, and then repeated again a few dozen times for good measure.

Let me give you a taste of what I went through:

PARODY: The mighty robot Evil Badd entered the room.
As he did, his mekkano-taste-probe tasted the brain of
the baby human child he was gnawing on. The blonde-haired,
blue-eyed tot had died in Evil Badd's cruel mekkano-claw
with scarcely a whimper. The lovely human slave Beauty Goode
looked up lifelessly at the entry of the mighty and evil robot.

"Ah-ha, Beauty Goode, I see you have awoken from what you humans call "unconsciousness", said Evil Badd. "I am Evil Badd, your new master. I am a robot. I like to eat babies. Some think that I am evil and bad. But I am a robot of pure logic."

"Yes, Master", said Beauty Goode submissively. Secretly she thought "I must find a way to resist the evil Evil Badd. He is evil, and that could be...bad!"

"Mind if I rip your uterus out for no reason, and eat your baby?" asked Evil Badd, ripping out Beauty Goode's uterus with his rapacious mekkano-claw.

Sorry to inflict that on you. But what you have just read is ONE THOUSAND TIMES BETTER than the hundreds pages of fetid so-called writing that I had to wade through.

Ah, but nothing could prepare me for the horror of

3. 2. 4.

Page 324, not a parody this time but the ACTUAL TEXT:
[There has been a huge accident, and a number of slaves have been killed. The nobles look on at the carnage.]

"In a wry voice, Bludd said, "Not one of your most successful efforts, Tio."

"But you must admit, the concept shows promise, Lord Bludd. Look at the destructive potential," Holtzman said, looking at the unruffled nobles without even considering the dead and injured slaves. "We can be thankful that no one was hurt."

Get it? There were lots of dead slaves, but the nobles were saying that no one was hurt! That's irony! Get it? Don't you GET IT, you moron?

I'll give Brian Herbert this: he certainly knows his audience.

Okay. Now, apart from the fact that any book with a character named "Lord Bludd" should automatically earn the death penalty for its authors, please note that the authors nonetheless feel it necessary to point out the TOTALLY OBVIOUS. "without even considering the dead and injured slaves" - gosh, thanks for pointing out that irony, because we readers are SO STUPID that we'd have missed it, yes sirree!

I don't know if the authors assumed that the readers were total morons, or if they're just so incredibly stupid themselves that they didn't realize that hammering the irony breaks it.

Enough. I've tortured myself enough with this astonishingly inept and painful book. Let it be noted that some moron named Kevin J. Anderson co-wrote it, and that since he is NOT related to Frank Herbert, there is no reason that his hands shouldn't be cut off. Supposedly he has written 29 national bestsellers. If that's the case, it only justifies my belief that virtually all modern genre fiction is utter garbage.

Speaking of which, The New York Times, The Philadelphia Inquirer, The Oregonian, Kirkus Reviews, Booklist, and Publishers Weekly all apparently have had rave reviews of the new "Dune" books, according to excerpts printed on the back cover. Unless these have been taken wildly out of context or out-and-out fabricated, they merit the death penalty for every one of these publications and everyone associated with them. It need not be painful; I am not vengeful by nature. As long as they never kill a single tree or brain cell with their so-called "writing" ever again.

That is all. ( )
3 vote PMaranci | Apr 3, 2013 |
Something of a disappointment, to say the least, when compared with the original Dune saga by Frank Herbert. There is little of Herbert Snr.'s subtlety and complexity here, and it really does seem to be more of a cashing in on the affection in which the original books are held.

That said, it is a workmanlike space opera which is fine as a book to take to the beach: read it, donate it to a charity book shop. (And yet I have kept my copy - damn you, OCD hoarding disorder!)

19/09/10: Need more space on the bookshelf, so this book and I have finally parted company. It's a moment of personal growth! ( )
  Michael.Rimmer | Mar 29, 2013 |
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Frank Herbert's Dune series is one of the great creations of imaginative literature, science fiction's answer to The Lord of the Rings.

Decades after Herbert's original novels, the Dune saga was continued by Frank Herbert's son, Brian Herbert, in collaboration with Kevin J. Anderson. Working from Frank Herbert's own notes, the acclaimed authors reveal the chapter of the Dune saga most eagerly anticipated by readers: the Butlerian Jihad.

Throughout the Dune novels, Frank Herbert frequently referred to the war in which humans wrested their freedom from "thinking machines." In Dune: The Butlerian Jihad, Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson bring to life the story of that war, a tale previously seen only in tantalizing hints and clues. Finally, we see how Serena Butler's passionate grief ignites the struggle that will liberate humans from their machine masters; here is the amazing tale of the Zensunni Wanderers, who escape bondage to flee to the desert world where they will declare themselves the Free Men of Dune. And here is the backward, nearly forgotten planet of Arrakis, where traders have discovered the remarkable properties of the spice melange....

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