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Amazing Tales for Making Men Out of Boys (original 2008; edition 2009)

by Neil Oliver

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Tales of brave and selfless deeds used to be part of every boy's education. We grew up sharing stories with our fathers, uncles and grandfathers of how other men had lived their lives, met their challenges, reached their goals and faced their deaths. Becoming a man was about comradeship and standing by your friends whatever the circumstances. And it meant that sometimes it was more important to die a hero than live a coward's life. Through Neil Oliver's vivid, stirring accounts we can rediscover the stories that inspire men to perform acts greater than themselves. These are the epics that we should all know by heart; the tales of courage, endurance and sacrifice that made men out of boys.--From publisher description.… (more)
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Title:Amazing Tales for Making Men Out of Boys
Authors:Neil Oliver
Info:William Morrow (2009), Hardcover, 384 pages
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Amazing Tales for Making Men Out of Boys by Neil Oliver (2008)

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    The Lion in the Gateway by Mary Renault (themulhern)
    themulhern: For a tale of heroes at Thermopylae which is also suitable for children, you can't possibly do better than Mary Renault's "Lion in the Gateway". Clear, dramatic, factually correct as much as is possible for that long-ago event.
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This book is an effort to revive the old school tales of courage and heroism that were written for children in previous decades. The writing isn't all that good and there are factual errors. Many of the illustrations are taken from "Look and Learn" (which I think is a British magazine with a series entry here: https://www.librarything.com/nseries/135727/Look-and-Learn). At any rate, the illustrations do have that pre-Shutterstock quality about them.

One is always better off going to the originals which this book is feebly trying to imitate. They don't suffer from the new facetiousnes combined with a sort of reactionary or reactive quality that books like this seem always to have these days.

I read through the chapter on John Paul Jones, but then found myself drawn to other books in my collection.
  themulhern | Sep 23, 2022 |
OK! I admit, I'm not a boy, but I decided to ignore the implicit sexism in the title and read it anyway. It's basically a big book of boys adventures.



What makes a hero - according to this book it is a combination of circumstances and example; without the heroes of the past there's nothing to live up to. The examples of herosim in this book aren't always the obvious ones and are from around the world. They make it perfectly plain how over used the word "hero" is. The media describe a footballer as a hero for kicking a ball into a net; that's not the heroism of this book. In here heroes are ordinary men who find that, when the situation calls for it, that they are capable of performing something extrordinary.



They are, in various degrees, moving. All of them ask you to think if you would have or could have done the same thing. As the tales make plain, there is nothing in a hero to show that they will become a hero - it's not always about being the biggest, strongest or boldest, sometimes it is simply about being one of a band of brothers. Some of them are similar, an outnumbered group of soldiers fight to the last man. But somehow it's never entirely pointless, and it echoes down the ages.



It slightly looses the thread towards the end and there is no rounding off chapter to match the intial opening, which means that it feels open ended - in a way, I suppose, it should do, there will always be occasions that call for heroes - we can only hope that they will be there if they are ever called for." ( )
1 vote Helenliz | Mar 31, 2013 |
Oliver has an interesting starting point for his collection of daring-do, that British Men are no longer 'Manly-Men' and he is perhaps correct.

The work is a collection of tales of bravery, most of which I was aware of but others I will have to source more information on, not only British but he also includes French, Native Indian and Byzantine tales. For those looking for an in-depth coverage of these events it would be better to look elsewhere but as an introduction or pointer to further works the book serves well.

I only found one discussion point in the book but this one leads me to think that due to the light investigation that has gone into the tales others may also exist, in the chapter on Dien Bien Phu Oliver states that 2 civilian airmen where the first American casualties in Vietnam but from the far more detailed 'The Last valley' by Martin Windrow stated that the 'Airline' which supplied these fliers, "Civil Air Transport", was wholly owned by the CIA from 1950. ( )
  iamthenewno2 | Sep 7, 2009 |
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Tales of brave and selfless deeds used to be part of every boy's education. We grew up sharing stories with our fathers, uncles and grandfathers of how other men had lived their lives, met their challenges, reached their goals and faced their deaths. Becoming a man was about comradeship and standing by your friends whatever the circumstances. And it meant that sometimes it was more important to die a hero than live a coward's life. Through Neil Oliver's vivid, stirring accounts we can rediscover the stories that inspire men to perform acts greater than themselves. These are the epics that we should all know by heart; the tales of courage, endurance and sacrifice that made men out of boys.--From publisher description.

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