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Jumalat juhlivat öisin by Donna Tartt

Jumalat juhlivat öisin (original 1992; edition 1996)

by Donna Tartt, Eva Siikarla (KÄÄnt.)

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Title:Jumalat juhlivat öisin
Authors:Donna Tartt
Other authors:Eva Siikarla (KÄÄnt.)
Info:Helsinki : Suuri suomalainen kirjakerho, 1996.
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The Secret History by Donna Tartt (1992)

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The word that best describes Donna Tartt's fiction is immersive. I don't know how she does it.
I first read this book long ago when it came out. Rereading it now, I am struck by how many books and movies have copied this scenario -- this kind of group of friends. My response to the novel is now overlaid with memories of my earlier reading and of reading other novels like this. Hard to separate out impressions of Secret History on its own --
I love Tartt's prose and even her digressions. The nove in a nutshell is about guilt, about being young and "special." The character of Henry is especially fascinating. Lots to ponder here -- a great reading experience. ( )
  twopairsofglasses | Apr 18, 2015 |
In the opening lines of this novel, you know that Bunny is murdered. The story unwinds as you learn how it came about and how it impacts the lives of those involved. Set in a snooty New England college, the story focuses on a handful of closely knit students who are studying classical Greek with the famous and charismatic professor, Julian. There is Richard, the narrator, always observing, often missing the inner workings of the relationships among the others, always wanting to belong. Brilliant, remote and manipulative Henry. Wealthy Francis. The deeply intertwined twins, Charles and Camilla (almost everyone seems to be in love with her, the only girl in the group). And Bunny, who is so obnoxious it is hardly surprising that he becomes a victim. All of the characters are deeply faulted, often alienating characters. It is not so much that they develop, as that they are revealed through Richard's eyes.

Donna Tartt takes her time, and sometimes I was impatient for the plot to move along. There is a great deal of Greek reference which, obviously, is intended as context for the characters, but I found overdone to the point of being intrusive.

I was one of those who like The Goldfinch and see this earlier novel as groundwork for character development and intrigue. ( )
  bookfest | Mar 20, 2015 |
I can't remember the last time I stayed up till the wee hours "just one more page"ing my way through a book I couldn't put down, but I did just that with this one! I love it when an author takes a beloved trope or well-worn literary cliche and examines it from a new angle - in this case, it's the Robin Williams-esque beloved-by-students-loathed-by-administration eccentric teacher with an emotional hold over a small group of students, viewed from a more sinister angle. It's about groupthink and herd mentality, it's about smalltown politics, it's about family politics and coming of age, and really, it's about a bunch of self-absorbed, affluent teenagers who kill someone and try to cover it up. It's appealing in that Gone Girl sense but also in that The Great Gatsby sense. I can't wait to read more of Tartt's writing! ( )
  okrysmastree | Mar 1, 2015 |
A book club selection that I probably would not have found on my own. I was intrigued by the concept of an "inverted mystery" -- not a whodunit, but a whydunit. I'll have to hold off on my final opinion after giving it more thought. My initial impulse is that the story didn't live up to my intrigue-driven interest. My initial reaction is that it is a two-star book primarily because the characters are so distasteful -- spoiled, drunk, drugged supposed-intellectuals, but that's not a fair evaluation of the book/story, the plot development, character development, etc....

Stay-tuned. ( )
  olongbourn | Mar 1, 2015 |
The first two-thirds of The Secret History are suspenseful, mysterious, and intriguing, then it drops off. The final third drags and follows a pattern of 1) a conversation that reveals some lurid secret, 2) binge-drinking/drug use, 3) repeat to end. This could be interesting if the characters really went off the rails, but it didn't read as though they were really unraveling or grappling with what they'd done. They were drinking too much and doing drugs from the start and none of them seem particularly remorseful - just scared of getting caught.

The pressure of getting found out is what they were cracking under, not that...idk, murdering your friend is probably a very difficult thing to cope with (but then again, maybe not, if that friend is Bunny). And I didn't really care either way if they got caught. I didn't care about them, I didn't care about Bunny (or the farmer), and Tartt never really prompts the reader to think about the morality of it all or what's at stake. The character's are never REALLY at risk of losing everything, or at least I never got that sense. So what's Tartt's point? I'm not sure.

I also couldn't peg the time period. The dialogue is the main reason this was so difficult. They all called each other "sport" and "old boy" and "son". I get that they're out of touch with the world around them because they're so involved with the classics and are so very rich. But it was so very distracting and prevented me from really visualizing the scene at Hampden. I kept thinking: When are we? Do rich people really talk like this? They're supposed to be in college? Stop talking like Jay Gatsby. Judy was the only believable college student in the whole book, and even she was a caricature, and a peripheral character to boot.

The characters never quite "got there". I'm not sure if we were supposed to hate them, admire them, fear them, envy them. Everyone likes a good villain, but they didn't feel particularly villainous. They never felt truly evil (except maybe Henry) or frightening , just entitled and beyond reproach. And aggravating. Maybe that's the point, but again, Tartt doesn't really bring us to a discussion on morality, good, evil, and the mundane.

One last thing - the bacchanal. I kept waiting for more on that other than the really vague and reluctant descriptions she gave us. I'm not sure why she left such a pivotal and wild event so obscured. Why even include a bacchanal if you're not going to get into it? Not necessarily the details of how they reached that level of ecstasy or transcendence (or whatever you want to call it), but what it was like, how belief fits in (other than that you need to truly believe...whatever that means), and how that belief system allows them to justify the chain of events that the bacchanal kicks off.

All that said, I actually did like it. It had shortcomings, sure, but in all I had fun reading it and will likely read other work by Tartt in the future. I'm sure there are structural techniques I'm overlooking and nods to Greek literature that went completely over my head. I'm pretty confident that someone who has a greater knowledge of the classics would get more out of this than I did. Still, I enjoyed it. ( )
  cattylj | Feb 28, 2015 |
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As a ferociously well-paced entertainment, ... "The Secret History" succeeds magnificently. Forceful, cerebral and impeccably controlled, "The Secret History" achieves just what Ms. Tartt seems to have set out to do: it marches with cool, classical inevitability toward its terrible conclusion.

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[They were] sitting at a table that was spread with papers and pens and bottles of ink. The bottles of ink I remember particularly, because I was very charmed by them, and by the long black straight pens, which looked incredibly archaic and troublesome.
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"Guess what," said Bunny, "Henry bought himself a Montblanc pen." ... He nodded at the cup of sleek black pens that sat on Julian's desk. "How much are those things worth? ... Three hundred bucks a pop? ... I remember when you used to say how ugly they were. You used to say you'd never write with a thing in your life but a straight pen." ... Bunny picked [the pen] up and turned it back and forth in his fingers. "It's like the fat pencil I used to use in first grade," he said. ... "Now, what kind of pens do we all use here? Francois, you're a nib-and-bottle man like myself, no? ... and you, Robert? What sort of pens did they teach you to use in California?" "Ball points," I said.
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Richard Papen arrived at Hampden College in New England and was quickly seduced by an elite group of five students, all Greek scholars, all worldy, self-assured, and, first glance, all highly unapproachable. As Richard is drawn into their inner circle, he learns a terrifying secret that binds them to one another...a secret about an incident in the woods in the dead of night where an ancient rite was brought to brutal life...and led to a gruesome death., And that was just the beginning...
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Truly deserving of the accolade "Modern Classic", Donna Tartt's novel "The Secret History" is a remarkable achievement - both compelling and elegant, dramatic and playful. Under the influence of their charismatic classics professor, a group of clever, eccentric misfits at an elite New England college discover a way of thinking and living that is a world away from the humdrum existence of their contemporaries. But when they go beyond the boundaries of normal morality their lives are changed profoundly and for ever. "It takes my breath away". (Ruth Rendell). "Enthralling ...image the plot of Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment crossed with the story of Euripides' "Bacchae" set against the backdrop of Bret Easton Ellis' "The Rules of Attraction"...forceful, cerebral and impeccably controlled...ferociously well-paced...remarkably powerful". ("The New York Times"). Donna Tartt was born in Greenwood, Mississippi, and educated at the University of Mississippi and Bennington College. She is a novelist, essayist, and critic and author of "The Little Friend". "The Secret History" has been translated into twenty-four languages.

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Richard Papen had never been to New England before his nineteenth year. Then he arrived at Hampeden College and quickly became seduced by the sweet, dark rhythms of campus life -- in particular by an elite group of five students, Greek scholars, worldly, self-assured, and at first glance, highly unapproachable.… (more)

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