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Old Man's War (original 2004; edition 2007)

by John Scalzi

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Title:Old Man's War
Authors:John Scalzi
Info:Tor Science Fiction (2007), Mass Market Paperback, 368 pages
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Old Man's War by John Scalzi (2004)

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    tottman: 47 Echo lacks the depth (and the universe-spanning scope) of Old Man's War, but the story and the fighting are both quite enjoyable. I won't say it's nearly as good as Old Man's War, but it is a quick, fun enjoyable read. And there's a lot of potential from this author I hope to see come out in future books.… (more)
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Third time around, it's still one of my favorite books. :) (Reread in January 2013) ( )
  leesalogic | May 10, 2013 |
Ugh. I'm pretty easily entertained, and have a soft spot in my heart for junk sci-fi. This book physically hurt me to finish.

While it has just enough hard sci-fi to fall into that category, and
contains echoes of Heinlein's military stuff, the prose is so clunky and juvenile that it's tough to enjoy any of that. For a little while I thought it might be YA -- until we got to the awkward sex.

And what what the Hugo committee thinking? Yikes! I've read Halo novelizations that were better! ( )
  shurikt | May 6, 2013 |
The first book in the series. Scalzi is exceptionally easy to read as his words flow off the page in rapid fire. All three books in this series are balanced reads.
  TheHeathers | Apr 30, 2013 |
If you live in the same city as me, be assured that the paper-and-ink copy of this book I read is going back to the library ASAP and you'll be able to borrow it after me. If not, I do have the PDF...

Old Man's War is sci-fi. Maybe not the most original sci-fi in the world -- I read it more or less alongside Ender's Game and noted some similarities -- but there are some more original things that raised my eyebrows and then got me interested. For instant, the biggest part: the main character enlists in the army on his seventy-fifth birthday.

Okay, then quite typically you get transference of consciousness between bodies, and specially modified soldiers, and Combat With Strange Alien Species, etc, etc. What makes Old Man's War fun, though, aside from that, is the humour. Sometimes it falls flat, but quite often I cackled appreciatively.

The ending is awesome. First I kind of wanted to punch John Scalzi, then I stopped, went oh, and sniffled just a little.

Definitely one I'd recommend. Easy reading, really, but that's not a bad thing. My main quibble is how dry the narrative is sometimes. That helps in some scenes, keeping it very cut down and straight to the point, but sometimes you want a bit more impact. ( )
  shanaqui | Apr 9, 2013 |
Mindblowing! I fell in love with this book immediately. It is not your typical story - it doesn't flow, it is a collection of flashes that tell the story. I must read more Scalzi. Not too quickly, though, I don't want to run out! ( )
  ScribbleKey | Apr 7, 2013 |
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I did two things on my seventy-fifth birthday.
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There has never been a military in the entire history of the human race that has gone to war equipped with more than the least that it needs to fight its enemy. War is expensive. It costs money and it costs lives and no civilization has an infinite amount of either. So when you fight, you conserve. You use and equip only as much as you have to, never more.
The reason we use force...is that force is the easiest thing to use. It's fast, it's straightforward, and compared to the complexities of diplomacy, it's simple. You either hold a piece of land or you don't. As opposed to diplomacy, which is intellectually a much more difficult enterprise.


. . . "There has never been a military in the entire history of the human race that has gone to war equipped with more than the least that it needs to fight its enemy. War is expensive. It costs money and it costs lives and no civilization has an infinite amount of either. So when you fight, you conserve. You use and equip only as much as you have to, never more."

He stared at us grimly. "Is any of this getting through? Do any of you understand what I'm trying to tell you? You don't have these shiny new bodies and pretty new weapons because we want to give you an unfair advantage. You have these bodies and weapons because they are the absolute minimum that will allow you to fight and survive out there. We don't want to give you these bodies, you dipshits. It's just that if we didn't, the human race would already be extinct."

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John Perry did two things on his 75th birthday. First he visited his wife’s grave. Then he joined the army.
 
The good news is that humanity finally made it into interstellar space. The bad news is that planets fit to live on are scarce—and alien races willing to fight us for them are common. So: we fight. To defend Earth, and to stake our own claim to planetary real estate. Far from Earth, the war has been going on for decades: brutal, bloody, unyielding.
 
Earth itself is a backwater. The bulk of humanity’s resources are in the hands of the Colonial Defense Force. Everybody knows that when you reach retirement age, you can join the CDF. They don’t want young people; they want people who carry the knowledge and skills of decades of living. You’ll be taken off Earth and never allowed to return. You’ll serve two years at the front. And if you survive, you’ll be given a generous homestead stake of your own, on one of our hard-won colony planets.
 
John Perry is taking that deal. He has only the vaguest idea what to expect. Because the actual fight, light-years from home, is far, far harder than he can imagine—and what he will become is far stranger.
John Scalzi is a prolific journalist, columnist, and non-fiction writer whose books include The Rough Guide to the Universe and The Book of the Dumb. His web journal The Whatever is one of the longest-established and most widely-read weblogs on the net.

John Perry did two things on his 75th birthday. First he visited his wife’s grave. Then he joined the army.

The good news is that humanity finally made it into interstellar space. The bad news is that planets fit to live on are scarce—and alien races willing to fight us for them are common. So: we fight. To defend Earth, and to stake our own claim to planetary real estate. Far from Earth, the war has been going on for decades: brutal, bloody, unyielding.

Earth itself is a backwater. The bulk of humanity’s resources are in the hands of the Colonial Defense Force. Everybody knows that when you reach retirement age, you can join the CDF. They don’t want young people; they want people who carry the knowledge and skills of decades of living. You’ll be taken off Earth and never allowed to return. You’ll serve two years at the front. And if you survive, you’ll be given a generous homestead stake of your own, on one of our hard-won colony planets.

John Perry is taking that deal. He has only the vaguest idea what to expect. Because the actual fight, light-years from home, is far, far harder than he can imagine—and what he will become is far stranger.

"Solid . . . [Scalzi] sidesteps most of the clichés of military science fiction, delivers fast-paced scenes of combat and pays attention to the science underpinning his premise."—San Francisco Chronicle

"Scalzi's imagined interstellar arena is coherently and compellingly delineated . . . His speculative elements are top-notch. His combat scenes are blood-roiling. His dialogue is suitably snappy and profane. And the moral and philosophical issues he raises . . . insert useful ethical burrs under the military saddle of the story."—Paul Di Filippo, The Washington Post

"Thought-provoking!"—Entertainment Weekly

"Smartly conceived and thoroughly entertaining, Old Man’s War is a splendid novel."–Cleveland Plain Dealer

"When humanity reaches the stars, it discovers that it must defend its claim to new planets against alien races with similar expansionist tendencies. To ensure the expertise of its soldiers, Earth creates the Colonial Defense Force, an army of men and women otherwise classified as senior citizens, who give up their lives on Earth for an uncertain and perilous future among the stars. Scalzi's first novel presents a new approach to military sf, boasting an unusual cast of senior citizens as heroes. A good choice for most libraries."—Library Journal

"Though a lot of SF writers are more or less efficiently continuing the tradition of Robert A. Heinlein, Scalzi’s astonishingly proficient first novel reads like an original work by the late grand master . . . This virtuoso debut pays tribute to SF’s past while showing that well-worn tropes still can have real zip when they’re approached with ingenuity."—Publishers Weekly (starred review)

"Gripping and surpassingly original. It's Starship Troopers without the lectures. It's The Forever War with better sex. It's funny, it's sad, and it's true."—Cory Doctorow

"John Scalzi is a fresh and appealing new voice, and Old Man's War is classic SF seen from a modern perspective—a fast-paced tour of a daunting, hostile universe."—Robert Charles Wilson

"I enjoyed Old Man's War immensely. A space war story with fast action, vivid characters, moral complexity and cool speculative physics, set in a future you almost want to live into, and a universe you sincerely hope you don't live in already."—Ken MacLeod

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"John Perry did two things on his 75th birthday. First he visited his wife's grave. Then he joined the army. The good news is that humanity finally made it into interstellar space. The bad news is that planets fit to live on are scarce - and aliens willing to fight for them are common. The universe, it turns out, is a hostile place. So: we fight. To defend Earth (a target for our new enemies, should we let them get close enough) and to stake our own claim to planetary real estate. Far from Earth, the war has gone on for decades: brutal, bloody, unyielding." "Earth itself is a backwater. The bulk of humanity's resources are in the hands of the Colonial Defense Force, which shields the home planet from too much knowledge of the situation. What's known to everybody is that when you reach retirement age, you can join the CDF. They don't want young people; they want people who carry the knowledge and skills of decades of living. You'll be taken off Earth and never allowed to return. You'll serve your time at the front. And if you survive, you'll be given a generous homestead stake of your own, on one of our hard-won colony planets." "John Perry is taking that deal. He has only the vaguest idea what to expect. Because the actual fight, light-years from home, is far, far harder than he can imagine - and what he will become is far stranger."--BOOK JACKET.… (more)

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