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The City & The City (original 2009; edition 2011)

by China Mieville

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Title:The City & The City
Authors:China Mieville
Info:Pan (2011), Paperback, 500 pages
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The City & The City by China Miéville (2009)

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The City & the City is essentially a police procedural in a strange and interesting setting. The book opens up with our main character, Inspector Tyador Borlú, arriving onto the scene where a dead woman has been found. The story follows him as he attempts to solve the mystery.

The setting intrigued me from the moment we were given the first hint of it at the end of the first chapter. The story itself was ok. It held my interest, but I wasn’t completely absorbed by it. What made the story interesting to me was its setting and the way the setting affected the murder investigation. The problem for me was that the story wasn’t about the setting, and that was the part I was most interested in reading about. There was very little background given about it, and very few tangible explanations. It still played a huge role in the story, and was still fun to read about, but I wanted more meat.

I had a heck of a time deciding how to shelve this. I don’t like to get too complicated with my shelving. If a book crosses genres, I try to pick whichever general genre seems to fit it the best. If a book tells a mystery story in a science fiction or fantasy setting, then I’ll shelve it as either science fiction or fantasy. But this book? I don’t know. On Goodreads, the majority of members have shelved it as fantasy. That surprises me, but maybe most people took certain aspects of this story a lot more literally than I did. Science fiction doesn’t really fit either, although I’d buy into that more readily than I’d buy into the fantasy label. In the end, I decided to just stick with the one thing I was sure of and shelve it as “mystery”. :)

I have some more comments about the setting, but I’ll have to put them behind spoiler tags:
I really, really wanted to know the history of how the city came to be fractured the way it was. We were given some very vague and generic theories, but nothing tangible. I guess the explanation wouldn’t really have fit properly in the story, since none of the characters knew the answer themselves.

As I read, I was constantly trying to decide whether or not the city was actually, physically divided in some way or if it was all psychological and cultural. In the end, I decided it was psychological/cultural since people and objects could easily pass between the cities as if they had just walked across a normal street. The people in Breach also didn’t seem, once we saw them in action, to have any special abilities beyond training to help them blend in and access to technology to help them keep tabs on what was going on. I think each country at some point in the past, for some reason nobody knows, took possession of different parts of the city and built those parts up with their own architectural style. But I wanted to know how it got that way. It seems like there’s interesting story potential there.

We also weren’t really told why breach was such a big taboo either, although it’s a little easier to speculate why two different countries with tense relations would want to maintain (or simulate, anyway) strict borders. The concept of “unseeing” was a fun one, and it added an interesting element to the murder investigation. I could completely buy into the idea that people who grew up in this setting would find it natural to unsee the “foreign” people and their city even though they were really sharing the same city. People in the real world also learn to unsee things they don’t want to see, although maybe not quite on this scale.
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  YouKneeK | Apr 21, 2017 |
Like the space between Besźel and Ul Qoma, Miéville carves out a genre space between mysteries, thrillers, and speculative fiction with a book that fully belongs to none of them, but takes the best parts of all of them. ( )
  Katya0133 | Mar 2, 2017 |
Just not captivated by the "grosstopography" enough to get little more than halfway through, but willing to start again later.
  sirk.bronstad | Feb 16, 2017 |
Fascinating and cerebrally gripping. A moody, mysterious, dark potboiler of a novel. ( )
  jeddak | Jan 27, 2017 |
Very cool sci-fi noir thriller about a murder that takes place in two cities that occupy the same geographic space but are actually different countries. The borders are maintained only by citizens in each city "unseeing" every that happens in the other, but the murder threatens the integrity of these psychic borders. Cool idea, and deftly executed. Originally read October 2014. Even better the second time. ( )
  jalbacutler | Jan 10, 2017 |
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Subtly, almost casually, Miéville constructs a metaphor for modern life in which our habits of "unseeing" allow us to ignore that which does not directly affect our familiar lives. Yet he doesn't encourage us to understand his novel as a parable, rather as a police mystery dealing with extraordinary circumstances. The book is a fine, page-turning murder investigation in the tradition of Philip K Dick, gradually opening up to become something bigger and more significant than we originally suspected.
added by andyl | editThe Guardian, Michael Moorcock (May 30, 2009)
 
Readers should shed their preconceptions and treat themselves to a highly original and gripping experience.The City & The City is still Urban Fantasy, yes, but don't look for elves on motorcycles or spell-casting cops. China Miéville has done something very different, new, and — oh yeah — weird.
added by PhoenixTerran | editio9, Chris Hsiang (May 28, 2009)
 
The novel works best when Miéville trusts his storytelling instincts. I was immediately entranced by the premise of doppel cities and didn't need it explained at every turn.

At times, I appreciated the intellectual brilliance of "The City" more than I lost myself in it. Borlú seemed an archetype more than a fleshed-out character. That's OK. The real protagonists here are the mirror cities themselves, and the strange inner workings that make them, and their residents, tick.
 
Miéville’s achievement is at once remarkable and subtle. His overlapping cities take in an aspect of our own world—social conventions—wholesale. But by describing those conventions using conceptual tools borrowed from traditional “worldbuilding” fantasy, he heightens awareness of the unnoticed in our own lives. He doesn’t give us symbols. He gives us real life rendered with all the more clarity for its apparent weirdness.
 

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"Deep inside the town there open up, so to speak, double streets, doppelganger streets, mendacious and delusive streets."
   -- Bruno Schulz, The Cinnamon Shops and Other Stories
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In loving memory of my mother,
Claudia Lightfoot
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I could not see the street or much of the estate.
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Can cities really
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Amazon.com Amazon.com Review (ISBN 0345497511, Hardcover)

Amazon Best of the Month, June 2009: The city is Beszel, a rundown metropolis on the eastern edge of Europe. The other city is Ul Qoma, a modern Eastern European boomtown, despite being a bit of an international pariah. What the two cities share, and what they don't, is the deliciously evocative conundrum at the heart of China Mieville's The City & The City. Mieville is well known as a modern fantasist (and urbanist), but from book to book he's tried on different genres, and here he's fully hard-boiled, stripping down to a seen-it-all detective's voice that's wonderfully appropriate for this story of seen and unseen. His detective is Inspector Tyador Borlu, a cop in Beszel whose investigation of the murder of a young foreign woman takes him back and forth across the highly policed border to Ul Qoma to uncover a crime that threatens the delicate balance between the cities and, perhaps more so, Borlu's own dissolving sense of identity. In his tale of two cities, Mieville creates a world both fantastic and unsettlingly familiar, whose mysteries don't end with the solution of a murder. --Tom Nissley

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Inspector Tyador Borlu must travel to Ul Qoma to search for answers in the murder of a woman found in the city of Beszel.

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