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The City & The City (original 2009; edition 2009)

by China Miéville

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Title:The City & The City
Authors:China Miéville
Info:Del Rey (2009), Hardcover, 336 pages
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The City & The City by China Miéville (Author) (2009)

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    The Yiddish Policemen's Union by Michael Chabon (grizzly.anderson, kaipakartik)
    grizzly.anderson: Both are police procedural mysteries set in slightly alternate worlds.
    kaipakartik: Both are detective tales in alternate settings
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    Invisible Cities by Italo Calvino (snarkhunt)
    snarkhunt: Calvino's book is a travelogue of impossible societies while China's book is a sweet little noir stuck in the middle of one.
  3. 70
    Anathem by Neal Stephenson (chmod007)
    chmod007: Both novels depict coexisting-but-dissociated societies — drastically foreign to the world we live in — but help us reflect on it.
  4. 61
    Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman (ahstrick)
  5. 50
    Orsinian Tales by Ursula K. Le Guin (ed.pendragon)
    ed.pendragon: Le Guin's Orsinia may have been an inspiration for Mieville's mythical Orciny in The City and the City.
  6. 40
    Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius by Jorge Luis Borges (bertilak)
  7. 40
    Finch by Jeff VanderMeer (ShelfMonkey)
  8. 30
    Un Lun Dun by China Miéville (heidialice)
    heidialice: May be an obvious recommendation, but these books cover a similar (very original) premise in very different ways. Un Lun Dun is for young teens, smaller in scope and message-heavy; The City & The City for adults, deals with complex themes and offers no easy answers. Both display Mieville's consummate skills and elegant humor.… (more)
  9. 31
    Wave Without a Shore by C. J. Cherryh (reading_fox)
    reading_fox: Covers the same ground regarding visualising concepts.
  10. 20
    Hav by Jan Morris (ed.pendragon)
    ed.pendragon: Miéville's The City and the City acknowledges Jan Morris as an influence on his fractured cities novel, and Morris' travel book novel Hav (fictional trips to a fictional state) is the most likely reference.
  11. 20
    The Other City by Michal Ajvaz (bunnygirl)
    bunnygirl: Czech novel about an alternate Prague; not mentioned as one of the influences for this novel, but perhaps going on a bit of the same (disputed?) territory
  12. 20
    A Maze of Death by Philip K. Dick (AlanPoulter)
    AlanPoulter: Two tales of paranoia and murder set in very odd worlds that just get stranger....
  13. 20
    The New York Trilogy by Paul Auster (Longshanks)
    Longshanks: Two books that expand the scope of detective fiction beyond the genre's traditional concerns and constraints, one existentially and one sociopolitically.
  14. 10
    Ways of Worldmaking by Nelson Goodman (sek_smith, sek_smith)
    sek_smith: Ways of World Making explains the cognitive processes that allow us to unsee and,thus, understand. The City & the City is a practical application of the concept, most rigorous and well weaved. Very entertaining fiction with plenty of meaning
    sek_smith: This is not a fiction book, but an essay on relativity applied to epistemology. For many interested in the psychological mechanisms at work in The city & the City, this is a good read.
  15. 10
    Zoo City by Lauren Beukes (Jannes)
    Jannes: Two noir-ish thrillers with (vaguely) supernatural themes. Centered around sort-of-contemporary, yet fantastical urban landscapes. Both are very unique, and feels alike even if there's not many superficial similarities. More to the point, they're both damn good reading.… (more)
  16. 10
    Embassytown by China Miéville (Anonymous user)
  17. 10
    The Manual of Detection by Jedediah Berry (ShelfMonkey)
  18. 00
    Soft City by Jonathan Raban (sek_smith)
  19. 00
    La Vie des Insectes by Viktor Pelevin (sek_smith)
  20. 00
    A Philosophical Investigation by Philip Kerr (sek_smith, sek_smith)
    sek_smith: illustrated noir!
    sek_smith: another work of fiction based on an abstract theory

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Murder mystery certainly but is it fantasy, science fiction, something new? Somewhere sort of Eastern European there are two cities side-by-side or are they. Do they co-mingle in a complicated fashion or are they parallel worlds. Interesting concepts cleverly projected. It takes a little while to get your bearings but then the author effectively takes you somewhere new. And then there is the murder. Our victim is killed because she threatens the status quo, but isn't that often why someone is murdered?

Two days later and I'm still musing about the idea of how in our world there is so much that we unsee in order to keep our personal worlds functional, be it our social, economic or intellectual spheres. ( )
  k8davis | May 21, 2013 |
Mieville is one of few contemporary fantasy writers producing work that I can read. His work is lucid, straying beyond the "tropes" that define fantasy, and while The City & The City might be loosely labeled an "urban fantasy", it's the elements of magical realism or "the weird" that dominate this story. This is not a wizards-and-fireballs sort of book, and we are all better for it. The book carries deep themes of otherworldiness made familiar, a vibe which permeates Mieville's writing (and is shared by those "fantasy" writers whom I find most captivating).

The story itself is an unremarkable murder mystery. What makes the book stand out is the setting. You never quite know what is happening with Beszel and its twin. Is the division the result of arcane magic? Demons? Technology? Aliens? Political agreement with mass application of psychology? We never know; it blends into the background, not as a problem to be solved but as a backdrop for the characters.

In that light the book just clicked for me. Mieville has a way of taking elements that are otherwise mundane, and other elements which could quickly stray into the land of cliche, and making them into something new and bizarre which works. It doesn't hurt that Mieville can actually write, and his prose is a pleasure to read on top of his out-there stories. ( )
1 vote MattP225 | Apr 27, 2013 |
Very different from his Bas Lag books and not as immediately egaging but quite enjoyable. ( )
  SChant | Apr 26, 2013 |
This is a major novel. I would place it between "1984" and "The Process" in a Literature course as well as on my bookshelf. It has been said a lot elsewhere, but it's worth repeating: on one level it reads as a noir detective novel. But it works on many other readings. For me, it was mainly a novel about taboo and, more generally, the nature of power, perception, self-censorship, social control mechanisms, the sheer power of convention...

Many people describe it as an absurdly impossible setting. For me what made it scary was its plausibility. I really had a most terrifying nightmare one night I stayed up late reading it and NOT because it was boring...

It is very difficult to comment on this book without "breaching" on its plot, so I will focus on some more abstract characteristics of it. The prose has been described here as sparing. Maybe this is compared to other Mr. Maiville's books, I can't tell, this being my first one to read, but I find it unadorned if unbending and exacting on the reader, this said with an approving bent.

The book offers to the reader vast possibilities for interpretation, since the narrator is deeply unreliable and pretty much everything must be doubted. Different interests will lead to as many inspirations and glimpses of diverse backstages, all of them fertile in possibilities...

I think the book should appeal particularly to readers who enjoyed:

- Nelson Goodman's "Ways of World Making"
- Phillip Kerr's "A Philosophical Investigation"
- Viktor Pelevin's "The Life of Insectcs"
you get the drift... ( )
  sek_smith | Apr 24, 2013 |
I read this one in bits. The last half or so was all in one go, on a long train journey, but for the most part, I just read it in bits, a few pages at a time, and didn't really get involved with it. I didn't really care how it ended, for most of the time. I did get tense during the last parts, and I was sad for the main character about the ending, but I didn't really care, for the most part. I wanted to care more about Corwi and Dhatt, but I didn't really see enough of them, or enough positive about Dhatt...

I suppose it was pretty realistic, in that, but what actually kept me reading was the core idea -- and, to some extent, the mystery. I've always said that cities were the most interesting thing about Miéville's work: he's really good at making them feel alive, I think. Less the individual parts, more the whole life of the city. This is a particularly interesting one, especially the way he navigates it: nothing here is overtly fantastical or sci-fi ish, really. I mean, it sounds completely far-fetched, but we know how deeply cultural conditioning can affect people, and if you just take it as a thought experiment...

Still, I like the idea -- and Miéville evokes his worlds well -- but it really didn't have me on the edge of my seat, or caring about the characters, or needing to read more. ( )
  shanaqui | Apr 9, 2013 |
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Subtly, almost casually, Miéville constructs a metaphor for modern life in which our habits of "unseeing" allow us to ignore that which does not directly affect our familiar lives. Yet he doesn't encourage us to understand his novel as a parable, rather as a police mystery dealing with extraordinary circumstances. The book is a fine, page-turning murder investigation in the tradition of Philip K Dick, gradually opening up to become something bigger and more significant than we originally suspected.
added by andyl | editThe Guardian, Michael Moorcock (May 30, 2009)
 
Readers should shed their preconceptions and treat themselves to a highly original and gripping experience.The City & The City is still Urban Fantasy, yes, but don't look for elves on motorcycles or spell-casting cops. China Miéville has done something very different, new, and — oh yeah — weird.
added by PhoenixTerran | editio9, Chris Hsiang (May 28, 2009)
 
The novel works best when Miéville trusts his storytelling instincts. I was immediately entranced by the premise of doppel cities and didn't need it explained at every turn.

At times, I appreciated the intellectual brilliance of "The City" more than I lost myself in it. Borlú seemed an archetype more than a fleshed-out character. That's OK. The real protagonists here are the mirror cities themselves, and the strange inner workings that make them, and their residents, tick.
 
Miéville’s achievement is at once remarkable and subtle. His overlapping cities take in an aspect of our own world—social conventions—wholesale. But by describing those conventions using conceptual tools borrowed from traditional “worldbuilding” fantasy, he heightens awareness of the unnoticed in our own lives. He doesn’t give us symbols. He gives us real life rendered with all the more clarity for its apparent weirdness.
 

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"Deep inside the town there open up, so to speak, double streets, doppelganger streets, mendacious and delusive streets."
   -- Bruno Schulz, The Cinnamon Shops and Other Stories
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In loving memory of my mother,
Claudia Lightfoot
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I could not see the street or much of the estate.
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Can cities really
co-exist in the same place?
Beware the frontier!
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Amazon Best of the Month, June 2009: The city is Beszel, a rundown metropolis on the eastern edge of Europe. The other city is Ul Qoma, a modern Eastern European boomtown, despite being a bit of an international pariah. What the two cities share, and what they don't, is the deliciously evocative conundrum at the heart of China Mieville's The City & The City. Mieville is well known as a modern fantasist (and urbanist), but from book to book he's tried on different genres, and here he's fully hard-boiled, stripping down to a seen-it-all detective's voice that's wonderfully appropriate for this story of seen and unseen. His detective is Inspector Tyador Borlu, a cop in Beszel whose investigation of the murder of a young foreign woman takes him back and forth across the highly policed border to Ul Qoma to uncover a crime that threatens the delicate balance between the cities and, perhaps more so, Borlu's own dissolving sense of identity. In his tale of two cities, Mieville creates a world both fantastic and unsettlingly familiar, whose mysteries don't end with the solution of a murder. --Tom Nissley

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Inspector Tyador Borlu must travel to Ul Qoma to search for answers in the murder of a woman found in the city of Beszel.

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