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Cider House Rules, The by John Irving

Cider House Rules, The (1985)

by John Irving

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Title:Cider House Rules, The
Authors:John Irving
Info:Random House Inc (Paperback)
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Tags:fictie, ethische vragen, weeshuis

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The Cider House Rules by John Irving (1985)

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At times this book was very, very good. At times it wasn't. It was very different from the movie, which I saw first. Normally a book is much better than the movie so that's why I like to read the book last. Actually, the movie was a lot better than the book, which is very unusual for me to say. Parts of the book just weren't as believable. ( )
  shesinplainview | Oct 8, 2014 |
For me, "The Cider House Rules" was a story about how we have rules that keep our worlds in order and how we meaningfully adjust them. What do we do when we disagree with the rules by which we are asked to live? How do we determine where the delusion lies, in self or the larger voices surrounding us? What provides meaning and purpose to life, and how do we become the hero of our own lives? These and many other universal questions swirl inside this story that raises them within the context of unwanted pregnancies.

Quotes I like:

On lying and creating stories to attempt control of life:
"When an orphan is depressed," wrote Wilbur Larch, "he is attracted to telling lies. A lie is at least a vigorous enterprise, it keeps you on your toes by making you suddenly responsible for what happens because of it. You must be alert to lie, and stay alert to keep your lie a secret. Orphans are not the masters of their fates; they are the last to believe you if you tell them that other people are also not in charge of theirs. When you lie, it makes you feel in charge of your life. Telling lies is very seductive to orphans. I know," Dr. Larch wrote. "I know because I tell them, too. I love to lie. When you lie, you feel as if you have cheated fate--your own, and everybody else's." (p324)

On questioning the role of rules in society and our personal lives:
"And what were the rules at St. Cloud's? What were Larch's rules? Which rules did Dr. Larch observe, which ones did he break, or replace--and with what confidence?” (p363)

On the role of rules in society and the need to respond in an imperfect world of Now:
"Once the state starts providing, it feels free to hand out the rules, too!" Larch blurted hastily.
..."In a better world..." she began patiently.
"No, not in a better world!" he cried. "In this one--in this world. I take this world as a given. Talk to me about this world!" ...
"Oh, I can't always be right," Larch said tiredly.
"Yes, I know," Nurse Caroline said sympathetically. "It's because even a good man can't always be right that we need a society, that we need certain rules--call them priorities, if you prefer," she said. ...
Always in the background of his mind, there was a newborn baby crying... And they were not crying to be born, he knew; they were crying because they were born." (p452)

On meaning and purpose in life:
“At times, he admitted, he had been very happy in the apple business. He knew what Larch would have told him: that his happiness was not the point, or that it wasn't as important as his usefulness.” (p536)

“On his bedside table, between the reading lamp and the telephone, was his battered copy of David Copperfield. Homer didn't have to open the book to know how the story began. "Whether I shall turn out to be the hero of my own life, or whether that station will be held by anybody else, these pages must show," he recited from memory.” (p537)

On loving others:
“And the thing about love," Wally said to Angel, "is that you can’t force anyone. It’s natural to want someone you love to do what you want, or what you think would be good for them, but you have to let everything happen to them. You can’t interfere with people you love any more than you’re supposed interfere with people you don’t even know. And that’s hard,” he added, “because you often feel like interfering - you want to be the one who makes the plans.
“It’s hard to want to protect someone else, and not be able to,” Angel pointed out.
“You can’t protect people, kiddo,” Wally said. “All you can do is love them.” (p544) ( )
  lgaikwad | Sep 28, 2014 |
I'm surprised that I liked this book. I was not expecting to be slightly swayed by Irving's pro- choice argument. The characters were uniquely imagined and added depth to the plot. Worth the read. ( )
  Rosenstern | Sep 14, 2014 |
Having finished one John Irving novel without a Road to Damascus moment, I inevitably found myself confronted with Irving fans who told me that I'd started with the wrong one. "You should read The Cider House Rules", they said. So I did. And now I'm going to keep very quiet, in case they try to make me read Garp as well...

I did actually like this a bit better than A son of the circus, despite all the unpleasant obstetric detail. It's basically a modern Dickens novel, self-indulgently lengthy, complete with all the social problems and grotesque characters you could want, but fortunately the sentiment and comedy are both heavily toned down, and Irving doesn't try to imitate Dickens's over the top chapter-openings. An interesting idea, and it seems to work reasonably well, but I wouldn't say that it's infected me with a great desire to read more of his novels. Maybe it's time to re-read David Copperfield, however... ( )
  thorold | Aug 6, 2014 |
The first of my summer rereads.
I don't remember this being a book I disliked ( read in high school) , but I don't remember it being one of my favorite Irvings either. I sure couldn't put it down, but am not more sure what I thought of it this time. He describes situations and emotions beautifully , but I felt that there was too much (and also not enough) going on with the plot. There are some elements of the whimsical which don't seem to jive, or seem a little too heavy handed. But it is certainly one I will think about for some time, and likely even read again in another ten years. ( )
  abbeyhar | Jul 23, 2014 |
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For ''The Cider House Rules'' has greater force and integrity than either of its two immediate predecessors. It's funny and absorbing, and it makes clever use of the plot's seeming predictability.

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"Conventionality is not morality. Self-righteousness is not religion. To attack the first is not to assail the last." ~ charlotte bronte (1847)
"For practical purposes abortion may be defined as the interruption of gestation before viability of the child." ~ h.j. boldt, m.d. (1906)
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In the hospital of the orphanage--the boys' division at St Cloud's, Maine--two nurses were in charge of naming the new babies and checking that their little penises were healing from the obligatory circumcision.
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"AN OLD-FASHIONED, BIG-HEARTED NOVEL . . . with its epic yearning caught in the 19th century, somewhere between Trollope and Twain . . . The rich detail makes for vintage Irving."
--The Boston Sunday Globe

"The Cider House Rules is filled with people to love and to feel for. . . . The characters in John Irving's novel break all the rules, and yet they remain noble and free-spirited. Victims of tragedy, violence, and injustice, their lives seem more interesting and full of thought-provoking dilemmas than the lives of many real people."
--The Houston Post

"John Irving's sixth and best novel . . . He is among the very best storytellers at work today. At the base of Irving's own moral concerns is a rare and lasting regard for human kindness."
--The Philadelphia Inquirer

"Entertaining and affecting . . . John Irving is the most relentlessly inventive writer around. He proliferates colorful incidents and crotchets of character. . . . A truly astounding amount of artistry and ingenuity."
--The San Diego Union

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Set in rural Maine in the first half of this century, it tells the story of Dr. Wilbur Larch--obstetrician and director of the orphanage in the town of St. Clouds. It is also the story of his favorite orphan, Homer, who is never adopted.

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