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Dormant: 50 Book Challenge : Adobe's 100 Book Challenge		29	Adobe, December 2007
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... Miles Vorkosigan series has its romantic and sexual moments, including interspecies sex. A good place to start is The Warrior's Apprentice. Miles' epic and at times hilarious romance with Ekaterin begins in Komarr. Ursula LeGuin's Left Hand of Darkness features the very ...

46. The Warrior's Apprentice by Lois McMaster Bujold (sci fi) ***1/2 This is the third book in the series, the first featuring the main character of Miles. This was actually a reread for me which is something I normally don't do. Another group that I'm in is reading the series in order, ...

I third Bujold, heartily! I'd skip Ethan of Athos, though, and start either with Cordelia's Honor or The Warrior's Apprentice (the second tends to grab people more, but I'm a complete-and-in-order sort of reader, thus the other rec). I too love a great YA dystopia (and YA in general). A ...

I will second Bujold. Ethan of Athos or Warrior's Apprentice is a good start. The latter may only be available as Young Miles. If you like dystopia's, perhaps try 1984 by Orwell or The Giver by Lowry. Another good, often overlooked book is Expendable by Gardner, but that may be ...

... Barrayar by Lois McMaster Bujold (sci fi) **** 45. Agincourt by Bernard Cornwell (historical fiction) *** 1/2 46. The Warrior's Apprentice by Lois McMaster Bujold (sci fi) ***1/2 47. The Girl Who Played with Fire by Stieg Larsson (mystery) ***** 48. Middlemarch by George Eli ...

57. The Warrior's Apprentice by Lois McMaster Bujold. Recommended by Roni ncats a while back. I enjoyed this, although I wasn't sure at first. I generally don't like books about teenagers and this seemed to be going that route but it pretty quickly settled down into a good SF story, if a ...

Bujold's Vorkosigan books. Very re-readable. I'm not a fan of Card's Ender series (save for Ender's Game) - the newest in particular I thought was just terrible - but I did like his Ender's Shadow series well enough. Don't know that I'd bother to re-read them, but I liked them while I was ...

32. Warrior's Apprentice (TBR List) A very fun romp of a space opera! Good pacing, plot, and characters, and lots of derring-do!

6/1/09-6/30/09: 42. Barrayar by Lois McMaster Bujold 43. The Warrior's Apprentice by Lois McMaster Bujold 44. The Mountains of Mourning by Lois McMaster Bujold 45. The Vor Game by Lois McMaster Bujold 46. Cetaganda by Lois McMaster Bujold 47. Practice Makes Perfec ...

... a Strange Land by Robert Heinlein The Doomsday Book by Connie Willis The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood Warrior's Apprentice by Lois McMaster Bujold The Speed of Dark by Elizabeth Moon Dragon's Egg by Robert Forward Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut Maybe ...

... Lois McMaster Bujold and her Vorkosigan books! (Start with any of the first three - Shards of Honor, Barrayar, or Warrior's Apprentice - her books are often more easily found in omnibuses. Here you'd be looking for Cordelia's Honor and Young Miles.). Bujold writes a really ...

... To Say Nothing of the Dog--Connie Willis (particularly if the reader likes romance) Dune--Frank Herbert Barrayar or The Warrior's Apprentice--Lois McMaster Bujold (whichever one everyone decides on) Hitchhikers's Guide to the Galaxy--Douglas Adams 1984--George Orwell Little Brothe ...

Warrior's Apprentice works for me in place of Vorkosigan series. I read it first as well, and was propelled at light speed toward the rest of the series. :o)

Aerrin, I'm the Barrayar vote, and I'm amenable to your suggestions. I started with Warrior's Apprentice myself, and would probably recommend that first to teen boys, but to girls and women would probably go with Barrayar. (Being a mature woman when reading WA certainly didn't mute its appeal ...

... Bujold's Vorkosigan series, although starting in different places - one for A Civil Campaign, one for Barrayar, two for Warrior's Apprentice, and one for 'The Vorkosigan Series'. Listed this way, the series only shows up once in rojse's lovely list - might some of us consider adjusting ...

... 1. Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card 2. Foreigner by C. J. Cherryh 3. Vatta's War by Elizabeth Moon 4. Warrior's Apprentice by Lois McMaster Bujold

Ender's Game (Orson Scott Card) Old Man's War (John Scalzi) Warrior's Apprentice (Lois McMaster Bujold) I reserve the right to add more later if I think of them! But these are certainly books I've hooked people with before. A part of me wants to also make this list very YA heavy - I ...

... then starting with Jhereg. I would consider some of Bujold's science fiction to be humorous, specifically The Warrior's Apprentice and A Civil Campaign. The Brill and Maxwell books by Lee Killough: The Doppleganger Gambit, Spider Play, Dragon's Teeth

... blahs? Looking at your library, have you ever read any Steven Brust (try Jhereg) or Lois McMaster Bujold (go for Warrior's Apprentice for science fiction or The Curse of Chalion for fantasy). Sometimes it just takes some excellent books to break out. Or go back for a reread of a ...

... somewhere recommending which one to read first.... If you're looking to dive right into the action, I'd start with Warrior's Apprentice, which is where we meet Miles proper and have some crazy and awesome adventures. If you prefer reading things in chronological order, start with Co ...

... is more a YA called The Spirit Ring. Bujold's SF is not hard SF but more character-driven like her fantasies. Start with The Warrior's Apprentice to get a taste. Then you can back up two books to get Miles' parents' story or just head straight on to get Miles' adventures and eventual maturity- ...

... really don't do her justice. Rather than starting with her Hugo winners, I'd recommend starting with Barrayar or The Warrior's Apprentice, as the later books definitely build on these. Her fantasy, starting with The Curse of Chalion is excellent as well. Have you already read hers? ...

I've been getting approving indicators from those who have read the fourth book to the end, Tad. Bujold was trying to do something different, and I'm trying to be open to whatever it turns out to be. And as it is, it certainly holds its own with a multitude of quest stories out there. But we tend ...

In response to #5 - I very much agree with the Warrior's Apprentice vote, although I wouldn't call Bujold hard sci-fi at all. It's very clearly sci fi - space ships, space stations, mercenary fleets, an interesting verse of worlds, and all! - but it's also very concretely character-driven, ...

I had plans to gift a friend with the first several Lois McMaster Bujold Vorkosigan books, but then he went and bought them on his own! So I guess I'll skip to Vor Game and Cetaganda, and he'll just be further along!

... Bujold's Curse of Chalion series (fantasy)? (author touchstone probably not working.) If he likes hard SF, try him with The Warrior's Apprentice by Bujold or one of the later ones in the series, if he's already read that.

... on the same world but in a completely different geographical area. Looking at our books in common, I suspect you would like Bujold's science fiction, too. Maybe start with The Warrior's Apprentice. Bujold's next book out is going to be in this story line. Also, although there is magic, I think ...

My first book was The Warrior's Apprentice (3rd in the timeline), encountered purely by accident, and it was so different from what I expected given the title and the cover (this was the notorious "battle nightie" cover) that I was immediately entranced. I agree Shards of Honor would be a good ...

... her friends by Melissa Scott 4) March Upcountry by David Weber 5) An Oblique approach by Eric Flint 6) The Warrior's apprentice 7) The Vor Game 8) Cetaganda 9) Borders of Infinity 10) Mirror Dance 11) Memory 12) Komarr 13) A Civil Campaign 14) Diplomati ...

... and her friends by Melissa Scott 4) March Upcountry by David Weber 5) An Oblique approach by Eric Flint 6) The Warrior's apprentice 7) The Vor Game 8) Cetaganda 9) Borders of Infinity 10) Mirror Dance 11) Memory 12) Komarr 13) A Civil Campaign 14) Diplomati ...

... time), I'd suggest the Vlad Taltos books starting with Jhereg by Steven Brust and Lois McMaster Bujold starting with The Warrior's Apprentice for the humor, and going back for the first two books after you are hooked on Miles.

I am not sure if these are on cd, but I recomend the Spider Robinson books as well as the Lois Mcmaster Bujold Vorkosigan saga, these are great stories and if not on cd are available on download.

... by Jane Austen 4/23 Barrayar* by Lois McMaster Bujold 4/24 Shards of Honor* by Lois McMaster Bujold 4/24 The Warrior's Apprentice* by Lois McMaster Bujold 4/25 The Vor Game* by Lois McMaster Bujold 4/26 Borders of Infinity* by Lois McMaster Bujold 4/28 Brothers in Arms ...

... Vorkosigan series - the 2 Cordelia books - i have the Cordelia's Honor omnibus (especially for female readers) or the Warrior's Apprentice, or even her more standalone books Falling Free which I really enjoyed when i was a bit off science fiction. They have been very well received ...

Colors of Space by Marion Zimmer Bradley Empire Star by Samuel Delany Warrior's Apprentice by Lois McMaster Bujold (may be too mature for some) 1984 by Orwell (same as above) Expendable by James Allen Gardner

... Strugatsky Seeker by Jack McDevitt The Best of Stanley G. Weinbaum The Warrior's Apprentice by Lois McMaster Bujold A Saucer of Loneliness by Theodore Sturgeon

... understand that reaction to Shards of Honor and Barrayar. Unfortunately, those two books are a necessary prelude to The Warrior’s Apprentice (republished as part of Young Miles), which is the one that got me hooked on the series. I'd say, stick with it at least till that book, ...

Barrayar is the second (in terms of story chronology) of the author's Miles Vorkosigan series, and follows on immediately from Shards of Honour, reviewed in this blog on 1 August. Cordelia is now married to Lord Aral Vorkosigan and pregnant with their first child (Miles – who finally makes an ...

... read Cetaganda since, and the first Cordelia, and am currently bogged down in Barrayar. I don't know - the scene in The Warrior's Apprentice where Miles comes down off the green stuff and Mayhew discovers that "...he's like that _all_the_time_?" sort of encapsulates my reaction to Miles. ...

... transformation. But then it evaporates -- I have a hard time remembering Gaiman stories a month after I read them. 15. The Warrior's Apprentice by Lois McMaster Bujold At loose ends after failing his military entrance exams, Miles Vorkosigan stumbles into heading a team of mercenaries ...

... on my wishlist. ;) When the King Comes Home (author on my wishlist, but not this book) Child Garden (ditto) The Warrior's Apprentice (favorite author) Shadow and Claw (actually the first half of this was on my wishlist) I'll blame the printer that broke down and refused to ...

... though I am enjoying her fantasy works. I was introduced to the series by a friend of mine in college, and she lent me The Warrior's Apprentice. She lent me the rest of the series in relatively short order, since it didn't take me more than the first chapter or so to get madly hooked on Mile ...

I've been working my way through Lois McMaster Bujold's Miles Vorkosigan books. I finished Warrior's Apprentice, The Vor Game, and Cetaganda last week, and I'm nearly finished with Brothers in Arms (contained in the Miles Errant omnibus). I'm hoping that my friend will return the ...

... I found most of Lois McMaster Bujold's works there. Maybe the first Miles Vorkosigan book fits YA because he was 18 in The Warrior's Apprentice, but certainly none of the later books belong in YA, and neither do her other non-Miles books. Robert Jordan shows up in YA, and so does Che ...

... rms Cetaganda A Civil Campaign Diplomatic Immunity Ethan of Athos Memory Shards of Honor The Vor Game Warrior's Apprentice All because I picked up a couple of them at the local library on a recommendation here at LT. Thank heaven they were 1/2 price! I'd have picked ...

... seem to be fairly different. Another good and different space opera series is Lois McMaster Bujold's Miles series - Warrior's Apprentice, Barrayar, The Vor Game... though I guess you'd have to be more explicit as to what your issue was with A Deepness in the Sky - it has been ...

... in the first two books, are really much more fun. The first Miles book, which is 3rd chronologically in the series, is Warrior's Apprentice, followed by The Vor Game. I suggest you start there, then work back if you like them. cheers!