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Wittgenstein's Poker: The Story of a Ten-Minute Argument Between Two Great Philosophers by David Edmonds
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The first and last time Wittgenstein and Popper discussed about philosophy, it ended with Ludwig menacing Popper with a poker.
Philosophers are a bit insane. ( )
  Ramirez | Mar 15, 2009 |
In 1946 Karl Popper presented a brief paper on the problems of philosophy to a seminar of the Moral Science Club at Cambridge, a direct challenge to Ludwig Wittgenstein, who held there are no problems, but only interesting puzzles about confusing language. Wittgenstein apparently gestured about with a poker from the fireplace, and may have threatened Popper. Popper, it is contended, may have later lied about the events of the meeting. The authors describe the meeting and the development of the two philosophers from their roots in Vienna at the turn of the century. Wittgenstein was born an aristocrat, but fought in the war, gave up philosophy for a long time after his "Tractatus LogicoPhilosophus" to be a country school teacher, and turned to an ascetic life at Cambridge, often disappearing into the woods. Popper was born respectable but not rich and the inflation after WWI wiped out his family financially, and he was desparate for a post and recognition. The authors deftly describe the background and truth of the argument, and the book was very entertaining, a sort of middle of the road intellectual history. ( )
  neurodrew | Jun 29, 2008 |
Edmonds and Eidinow provide a fascinating window into a very brief, yet meaningful exchange between several of the greatest philosophers of the twentieth century- Ludwig Wittgenstein, Karl Popper, and Bertrand Russell.

Wittgenstein and many of the philosophy faculty, graduate students and other scholars would gather weekly in a classroom on the campus of King's College in England for great philosophical discussions and stimulating debates.

On this particular occasion, at one of their meetings on a day in late October of 1946, Karl Popper was in the area giving a lecture and was invited to attend the meeting of the moral philosophy club. Wittgenstein's brief argument with Popper, which took place at that small classroom at King's College in the presence of Bertrand Russell and a handful of graduate philosophy students has become the stuff of legend.

Wittgenstein and Popper reportedly debated back and forth about their differing perspectives on the deep philosophical and linguistic argument at hand- including by some accounts Wittgenstein accentuating his point with a poker from the fireplace. Following this brief exchange, Wittgenstein reportedly made his point, threw down the poker and left the room. Reports differ as to who won the argument, but it has become part of both of their enduring philosophical legacies.

This thoughtful book sets the scene for this interesting exchange. The authors also provide a fascinating background into the early life and upbringing of both Wittgenstein and Popper- Wittgenstein as the son of a wealthy European oil tycoon who endured much tragedy in his younger life and eschewed wealth and privilege in his adult life; Popper coming from a more austere working class background.

A concise window into Wittgenstein's (and to some degree Popper and Russell's) works is also provided. Wittgenstein had published his brilliant yet somewhat obtuse "Tractatus Logico Philosophicus" some years earlier. Popper had written "The Open Society and Its Enemies," which was a scathing critique of authoritarianism and further developed the "open society" concept put forth by Bergson.

This book is a fascinating read, and provides enough concise background that one does not have to be a philosophy scholar to enjoy and benefit greatly from reading it. I highly recommend it! ( )
3 vote peacemover | May 12, 2008 |
An enjoyable read, but a tad repetitive. I was hoping for more about the work of the two philosophers. The authors summarize some of their important disagreements, but overall, this is more a biographical sketch of two men from different neighborhoods of Vienna than about two influential philosophers of the 20th century. ( )
  bjza | May 4, 2008 |
I enjoyed Wittgenstein’s Poker very much. I prefer the history of philosophy far more than actual philosophical problems/puzzles. This was a great book to introduce me to the persons of Ludwig Wittgenstein and Karl Popper.

My largest criticism is the bias toward Wittgenstein over Popper. I do understand the fascination by the more eccentric and quite possibly more brilliant Wittgenstein, but the authors do very little to shade their favor with ambiguity.

If people do not know who Popper or Wittgenstein are, they should pick up this book. I found the reading enjoyable and it perked my interest in Tractatus logico-philosophicus. We'll see if I actually read it. ( )
1 vote joshuaferris | Dec 27, 2007 |
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To Hannah and Herbert Edmonds and to Elisabeth Eidinow
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On the evening of Friday, 25 October 1946 the Cambridge Moral Science Club—a weekly discussion group for the university's philosophers and philosophy students—held one of its regular meetings.
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DedicationTo Hannah and Herbert Edmonds and to Elisabeth Eidinow
First wordsOn the evening of Friday, 25 October 1946 the Cambridge Moral Science Club—a weekly discussion group for the university's philosophers and philosophy students—held one of its regular meetings.
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On October 25, 1946, in a crowded room in Cambridge, England, the great twentieth-century philosophers Ludwig Wittgenstein and Karl Popper came face to face for the first and only time. The meeting -- which lasted ten minutes -- did not go well. Their loud and aggressive confrontation became the stuff of instant legend, but precisely what happened during that brief confrontation remained for decades the subject of intense disagreement.

An engaging mix of philosophy, history, biography, and literary detection, Wittgenstein's Poker explores, through the Popper/Wittgenstein confrontation, the history of philosophy in the twentieth century. It evokes the tumult of fin-de-siécle Vienna, Wittgentein's and Popper's birthplace; the tragedy of the Nazi takeover of Austria; and postwar Cambridge University, with its eccentric set of philosophy dons, including Bertrand Russell. At the center of the story stand the two giants of philosophy themselves -- proud, irascible, larger than life -- and spoiling for a fight.

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