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Dec 13, 2010, 5:45pm

I've typed my post twice and gotten an error. Before I type it again, I'm going to see if this actually works and my new thread gets created. *grumble*

Dec 13, 2010, 5:51pm

So now that I've grumbled the thread is accepted! The last two times I tried, I got an error message that said "We have a cadre of monkeys working to solve your problem." And then poof! My message was gone.

Thought I'd share that message for the benefit of those who have never seen it.

Back to the topic. I've been trolling group member's libraries (a few) and have discovered we have quite a bit in common.

jjmcgaffey and I have 20 books in common. Same with Thrin and crazy4reading.

southernbooklady and I share 29 books!

jayne_charles, you and I share 12 books, though many of those are on my wishlist, so I'll be consulting you for help prioritizing.

What books do you share with others in the group? Which shared books did you really enjoy?

Edited: Dec 13, 2010, 6:34pm

I took a look around and found I had one or two in common with most people. Many other ones are on my 'to be read' pile.

You and I share one Women's Bodies, Women's Wisdom which I have listed as a favorite.

I share 12 books with sqdancer. At this moment, my husband and I are both reading bits from Ten Lost Years, 1929-1939 Memories of Canadians Who Survived The Depression. We are both enjoying it. The stories are both enlightening and some quite sad. They really let you into a time where people pulled together to help each other. Another one of my favorites was Obasan. I enjoyed the story itself and her writing style.

Dec 14, 2010, 7:33am

Nice idea for a thread, mlnelson!

I share 174 books with southernbooklady, 88 books with jjmcgaffey, & 69 books with VivienneR - clearly they have good reading tastes.

Edited: Dec 14, 2010, 8:28am

Lol I think I am the odd ball.

I do share 19 with scaifea. :)

Dec 14, 2010, 10:34am

I share books with all the public collection members. At first it seemed _Lily_ was an exception, but I looked at her books and we both have all four Twilight volumes. Hers are in a boxed set, though, so they didn't show up on the sidebar. A feature for Tim to fix, perhaps ;-)

Edited: Dec 14, 2010, 11:49am

> 6 Indeed.

This is something that would be covered once the contains/contained in relationships are fully implemented. I look forward to that day, but I'm not holding my breath.

ETA: for this thread's topic!

I share at least a few with each public catalog member. I top out at sharing 329 with macsbrains.

Dec 14, 2010, 10:57am

I share at least a couple books with everybody who has a public library.

I share the least with thebeadden. Only 2 books!

I share a whopping 169 books with Lman - mostly fantasy and urban fantasy. I also share 141 with macsbrains and 87 with southernbooklady, plus 50-70 with a bunch of other members.

Dec 14, 2010, 11:00am

mlnelson01- You and I share 17 books, including one of my favorites, The Remains of the Day.

Edited: Dec 14, 2010, 7:15pm

Fun thread minelson01 ..... I've just spent more time than I should have looking to see what books I share with others in this group - Now I'll have to run to catch up with the rest of my day! southernbooklady tops my list of 'sharers' with 258 titles in common, followed by Lman (242) and CDVicarage (214).

I do like to see where LT members are located. I thought Lman's high number of books we share might be partly due to the fact that she (?) is Australian like me..... but not necessarily: There's CDVicarage who's in England, and southernbooklady from the USA!

Edited to Add: >9 ryvre: ryvre..... The Remains of the Day has been on my To Read list ever since I saw the film. I think it's a case of "Well, now I know that story, do I need to read the book?", yet I know that 'the book' always trumps 'the film'.

Dec 14, 2010, 5:43pm

I haven't checked everyone, but the ones I have checked:

mlnelson01: You and I share only 1 book! Lord of the Flies - and your 'about me' is delightful.

scaifea: You and I share 23 books (which is impressive given the small number of books I have) - it looks from your profile that you speak Latin, which I'm currently learning.

thebeadden: You and I share just one book as well: The Hobbit - I think I'll use this exercise as an excuse to buy more books, although, I do wonder if I'd get more hits when the contains/contained-in feature is up and running, because I have quite a few omnibuses.

ladylenneth: You and I share 3 books - I note that your favourite author is J. K. Rowling so I'd guess we've both read all the Harry Potter books (even though they aren't in my catalogue)

jjmcgaffey: You and I share 20 books - I wish I had a library your size.

Thrin: you and I share 43 books (which is about 40% of my library!) - that makes you the winner. I'm Australian too.

southernbooklady: you and I share 38 books. How do you manage to fit so many books in your house? You must have a wonderful set of bookshelves!

Dec 14, 2010, 6:22pm

I wasn't to surprised that the the person I share the most books with was Lman with 265 books we have talked about our books before.

the second highest was myckyce with 129 books

and Southernbooklady close behind with 126

fabtk 105
Foreigncircus 104
and macbrains 102

thebeadden we share no books :(

Dec 14, 2010, 6:43pm

I joined last year but only put up some of my books. Then didn't come back until a few months ago. So I still have lots of books to enter.

This thread was a great idea!

Dec 14, 2010, 6:53pm

>11 TineOliver: southernbooklady: you and I share 38 books. How do you manage to fit so many books in your house? You must have a wonderful set of bookshelves!

Also, 10 and 4 and 2 and 12...

See, I knew if I delayed posting, people I share books with would get to it first and save me the effort!

TineOliver, I've been a bookseller for more than 25 years, and reading is my very great passion. Every room in the house has bookcases, and every one of those cases is jam packed and double-shelved. I'm still cataloging though. I've been slower on the non-Isbn'd books, the audio books and the ARCs.

My brother filmed a video of the library this summer:

But I've added some book cases since then, and relegated the television to an unused corner of the room. ;-)

Dec 14, 2010, 9:44pm

#11 TineOliver: Well, I don't speak Latin (not really a big believer in the neo-Latin movement - as one of my former students says, "Latin's as dead, as dead as can be, first it killed the Romans and now it's killing me!), but I am a Latinist and a Classics professor, so I can read it like there's no tomorrow! LOL! Of course, then, I'm a big supporter of others learning it (being my bread & butter and all...), so good on you! There's nothing like reading Cicero and Vergil and Catullus and Ovid et cetera in all their original glory. Seriously.

Dec 14, 2010, 10:41pm

14: I love that you relegated your tv in favour of your books!

15: I can sympathise with that quote and it does make a good point! There are two things I love about latin: (1) The greater understanding that Latin grammar gives me of English grammar and (2) taking Catullus as an example, the fact that Latin has words (in particular verbs) that are so sexually graphic that there's no effective English translation.

I actually started learning Latin because of Utopia - I wondered whether reading it in the original latin would give a better insight as to whether More intended it as satire and the convenience of Latin as a platform for learning romance languages.

(As a monolistic (partially speaking a dead language doesn't count) Australian, I find languages infinately fascinating.

Dec 15, 2010, 5:05am

I've had a brief look: although you share 214 books with me, Thrin, I only share 174 with you. I don't know if this is because of duplicate copies of some titles or if it's a bug. I also share 174 with Lman, 144 with VivienneR (and a cat profile picture - but not the same cat!) and 233 with Southernbooklady.

Dec 15, 2010, 7:15am

#16 TineOliver: Sounds like you might enjoy: Latin Sexual Vocabulary. The author, a stodgy, stereotypical Old White Guy Classicist, acquired the nickname Dirty Words Adams for writing this book. He wasn't amused, or so I've heard.

Dec 15, 2010, 9:08am

Well I decided to take a look at how many books I shared with the rest of the members.

I share the most books with ForeignCircus with 98 books. I share 90 books with LMan.

Susiesharp I love your Pogo Mini as your profile picture and you and I share a total of 76 books.

The least amount of books I share is with thebeadden with only 1 book.

Dec 15, 2010, 9:37am

Well I did a new tally. Lol

Crazy4reading - 41
Susiesharp - 38
Ryvre - 23
Suncat - 23
CDVicarage - 21
Scaifea - 19
Southernbooklady - 16
Thrin - 4
Tineoliver - 3
Megi53 - 3
Mlnelsonol - 2
Thebeaden - 1

Dec 15, 2010, 10:57am

Lyn/Lman must have the best library since she shares so many books with everyone!

Thanks crazy I love Pogo like that you recognized it as such!

Dec 15, 2010, 11:35am

Cool! These are the members I've searched so far:

crazy4reading - 12 books

mlnelson01 - 3

thebeadden - 0

scaifea - 10

ladylenneth - 6

Megi53 - 2

Suncat - lucky 13

ryvre - also 13

Thrin - 15

TineOliver - 6

susiesharp - a whopping 23

southernbooklady - whoaa, 31

CDVicarage - 40. Amazing!

Obviously I didn't expect to share that many books with the members here. It makes me feel like I definitely landed in the right group :)

Dec 15, 2010, 11:44am

**sneaking out to post**

Lman is just the best! Books or not!!

**returning to lurking**

Dec 15, 2010, 11:46am

Lol I vote skittles to be the best

Dec 15, 2010, 11:59am

so very true skittles!

Dec 15, 2010, 12:53pm

Does the "books you share" widget include books from your wishlist collection? Because I don't actually own those, I just really want them!

And it is cool to see classicists on this list--it's a new area for me I've become interested in ever since I almost got a speeding ticket listening to the Iliad on audio.

Dec 15, 2010, 12:56pm

> 26- I think it does include wishlist but I think that still shows common interests in books.

Dec 15, 2010, 1:00pm

#26: LOL! One doesn't see the words "cool" and "classicists" together very often - thanks!

Edited: Dec 18, 2010, 4:40pm

>28 scaifea: Classicists are definitely very cool! We share 106 books! And southernbooklady and I share 151!

I am currently tutoring my younger sister and her friend in Latin, though I honestly haven't looked at the language in any meaningful way in 15 years! (I was studying Spanish and Japanese in the interim, and I find I can only process one extra language at a time without crossing my brain-wires and short-circuiting.)

It's been nice to go back to it and realize that my schooling impressed it more strongly into my brain than I thought!

(Though I already am having trouble remembering my Japanese sometimes. Argh!)

Dec 19, 2010, 9:47am

macsbrains: It's always nice to find more Latin enthusiasts!

Dec 20, 2010, 8:57am

Is there a way to see all group members easily? I was only able to check posters and recent members, but it seems as though I have at least a few books in common with everyone. (Surprising, really, since most of the books I've read are not entered in my library.)

My top matches of those I've checked:
Lman 94
Shearon 81
Southernbooklady 57
Susiesharp 53
Myckyee 51
Crazy4reading 50
Jesse_wiedinmyer 39
Macsbrains 36
Fabtk 36
Anniemod 33
Thrin 32

Dec 20, 2010, 10:12am

We have 23 in common debbie

Dec 20, 2010, 3:06pm

I just did a quick look at the overlaps

hailelib - 137
Suncat - 85
jjmcgaffey - 78
southernbooklady - 72
CDVicarage - 72
ForeignCircus - 56
Thrin - 53
scaifea - 46
Lman - 46
macsbrains - 40
caras_galadhon - 39
sqdancer - 32
fabtk - 31
Jesse_wiedinmyer - 28
ryvre - 18
caffron - 18
MrAndrew - 17
AnnieMod - 15
crazy4reading - 15

stopped there - and I'm sure I missed some

Dec 20, 2010, 6:57pm

Now this is a fun way to explore new reading material - although I'm missing the libraries of the 15 original members since apparently they're no longer "recent".

Lman - 138
hailelib - 124
jjmcgaffey - 118
ForeignCircus - 45
fabtk - 44
macsbraines - 41
reading_fox - 38
caras_galadhon - 34
AnnieMod - 33
Mareofthesea - 19
carolineroche - 18
crazy4reading - 17
canuck_jenni - 13
Suncat - 13
sqdancer - 11
honeydew69862004 - 9
_debbie_ - 7
Phlox72 - 4
scaifea - 3
MrAndrew - 2
unlucky - 2
fdholt - 2
Thrin - 1
TineOliver - 1
tess_i_am48 - 1

I only share 0 books with 3 people.

Dec 20, 2010, 7:07pm

34 we have 16 in common

Dec 20, 2010, 7:21pm

That is an interesting question
Lman - 211
hailelib - 126
reading_fox - 91
seem to be my top 3 and I am seeing a few more between 40 and 90)

Dec 20, 2010, 9:33pm

>34 SunnySD: We share 16 books fssunnysd. But what really floors me is that you have written 716 reviews! I was hoping to hit 100 this year, but I'm not going to make it.

Dec 20, 2010, 11:04pm

#34 716 reviews. I am in awe. I only have 3 and I agonized over those. I think I will make it a goal to do one a month next year as a minimum. You need to be a part of my support group and keep me on track.

Dec 21, 2010, 2:55am

I think there is just a handful that i share less than 8 with. Ever book that I read now days I'm trying to write a review for mainly that way I can look back and see if it's worth a reread or not. I'm not very good at the reviews in my own opinion but since I'm mainly doing it for myself eh oh well.

Dec 23, 2010, 6:37pm

39> That's exactly what I'm doing - I'm reviewing each book as I read it (and rating it). It started when I was doing the 100 Books Challenge (three years ago) - first I was just listing the books, then I started putting little comments about why I liked or disliked them (because I saw other challenges doing it) and I found it was fun. Now I write something between a paragraph and a tome on each book - I hope others find them useful, but I definitely do. It reminds me what the middling books were like. The really really bad ones are memorable, the good ones I know, but the middling and middling-bad ones fade from memory...

I have 887 reviews, done over the past three years or so (from Jan '08, when I transferred my Challenge comments into the Review fields!).

Dec 27, 2010, 9:43pm

40> I like writing reviews but they take me forever to write! A review of a couple of paragraphs might take 45 minutes to an hour. Same is true of blog posts, so even though I have a blog I rarely have enough time to put together a good post.

I have been rating the books I read and entering the date I stopped reading them. I wish I had time to review them all.

>38 fdholt: I'll be part of your support group and support your goal of one a month - will you do the same for me?

Dec 28, 2010, 12:14am

I don't mind so much if people don't write reviews because I don't usually read them. It's when they don't rate the book that drives me crazy.

Dec 28, 2010, 8:31am

>42 honeydew69862004: Uh oh. I never rate books. ;-)

Dec 28, 2010, 10:36am

42 & 43 : Me, neither.

Dec 28, 2010, 11:11am

>42 honeydew69862004:

But a rating means nothing - what is 2 stars for me might be a 5 stars for you because you enjoy the things I actually hated about the book. A review is at least telling you what is the reasons for the star (I am NOT talking for reviews that are giving you the story summary in 6 sentences or less).

For example I tend to rate historical fiction lower for lack of credibility (not for lack of historical accurateness - this is normal in historical fiction but if they stuck a 18th century concept/item in the 16th century just to make the story, that kicks it down unless if there is an explanation somewhere in the notes/preface to why. You might not even care about that - and it could be a perfect book otherwise...

Not to mention my non-fiction rating (especially around the Tudors) where an author writing in this century but not using the sources and research from the last 50-100 years will get low rating even if a similar book written in the 1890s will get a high one...

Dec 28, 2010, 11:58am

>45 AnnieMod:

That is a big reason why I don't pay much attention to ratings as a rule--I never know what they mean. Like all those people who rate Kindle ebooks on Amazon with one star in protest because they are priced over $9.99.

But I get that the value of rating is in their aggregate power--that when 45 people rate a book and the average is four stars, it's one of those books that people, as a rule, find worth reading.

The reason I don't rate books is because I have trouble maintaining any kind of internal consistency: My opinions on books fluctuate all the time, and I second guess myself trying to decide if this book gets three stars, why does that one only get two and a half? The reasons I like or dislike a book are so varied, I never can hammer them into a 1-5 star equation.

Dec 28, 2010, 12:01pm

>45 AnnieMod: True but when I check out a persons profile and library and I see a title that looks interesting I look at their stars to see if they've read it and what they thought. I also go to the book page and check it out. The will you like it button is suprisingly accurate.

If it's a book that I've read then if they starred it I know if I can talk to them about it. Since a lot of us aren't the greatest at writing a review. I have some books in my library that I haven't written a review for and also that I haven't starred.

Edited: Dec 28, 2010, 6:20pm

I used never to rate books but was prodded into doing so by someone else. I 'star' books depending on my own enjoyment of them. Sometimes I shall give a very good book just one star because I simply didn't enjoy it very much. My 'starring' is for my benefit only: I can look back at my ratings and decide whether or not I would enjoy reading another work by that author (although if I know her/him to be a highly regarded writer I'll usually give them another chance.... oh, how grateful they must be!) So approach my ratings with caution if you approach them at all.

Posts 45 and 46 - AnnieMod and southernbooklady: I share your reasoning for my not rating any other way, but could not have expressed myself so cogently.... Thank you.

>47 honeydew69862004: honeydew69 etc. "If it's a book that I've read then if they starred it I now if I can talk to them about it."

Good point. Of course if the book is in the other person's library we could talk about it anyway, but having a rating of some sort to discuss is a good starting point for a conversation, isn't it?

Dec 28, 2010, 7:16pm

I just wanted to share how nice it was to see this discussion (which always prompts disagreement) handled well here. :)

I don't give ratings myself, and I am so quirky that average ratings don't really help me much. However, I support optional ways for those who do find value in ratings to have them used for displays, sorting, etc. in LT, as long as I can choose to disregard them (e.g., no forced sorting so that everything without a rating, thumbs, etc. always goes to the end of a list).

Dec 28, 2010, 9:44pm

I have my ratings, with something of my reasoning, on my profile - just to remind me of how I've set it! And my primary criteria is 'would I read this again'. I reread all the time (I read very fast), and one of my major distinctions is "glad I read it, wouldn't read it again" vs "liked it, may reread" (vs "sorry I read it"). I need to remind myself which star level goes with which opinion regularly, though...they keep creeping up. And I do prefer reviews _as_well_as_'s nice to have both.

48> Of course if the book is in the other person's library we could talk about it anyway
Well...not exactly. For a lot of my books, my answer would be "Well, I have it..." I have a heck of a lot of books I've not yet read (yes, I'm contradicting myself above...I am vast, I contain multitudes. Of books). If I've rated it, I've read it, at least once. So rating does help with that. Or, of course, if it's in my Read collection.

Dec 28, 2010, 10:43pm

My stars fluctuate in meaning too. I would rate most books 3 stars because most books are average by definition. I'd like to say that I conform to a bell curve, but most of the books I've starred on LT are more than 3 because I wanted to star them specifically because I liked them a lot.

"This book is awesome, let me go run to LT and give it 5 stars!" as opposed to, "This book was ok and not anything special, let me go run on LT and rate it 3 stars!"

And because I rate most things a 3, it covers books I liked but had technical problems, and also those I didn't like because of personal taste.

And oh, how I feel conflicted when a book is flawed but it catered to me so nicely that I didn't mind very much. What to do?! So I change those ratings all the time depending on how hard-hearted I'm feeling at the time.

Dec 28, 2010, 11:15pm

One of my ratings (2.5) is "Someone else might like this, but not me". Under that are books that have _problems_ - plot and continuity errors that throw me out of the story, typos or other physical problems (paragraphs in the wrong order, for instance) that ditto, or books that just don't...make...sense! Or drive me nuts for other reasons. Above 2.5 are the readable-up-to-wonderful books. I've got a proofreader's eye - I can't _not_ see the typos and logic errors. I can and will disregard them if it's a good book (though I'll mention them in the review), but there are plenty of otherwise averagish books that have fallen under the unreadable level due to errors like that.

As I said above, I'm rating and reviewing each book as I read it, so the question of whether it's worth running to LT for each book doesn't arise - each book gets its due. I actually enter the info, including a quick review, into a database on my phone first (because that's always with me), then put them on LT when I get a chance. So my reading appears to happen in batches...

The DB, by the way, is HanDBase for Android, and I export LT's TD export file and import it to HanDBase about every 5-10 days (or whenever I've entered a new batch of books). Very handy having it with me. I didn't have Internet access on my phone until recently (I had the DB on a PDA with WiFi but no cell access) so needed an off-line DB.

And wow, are there are lot of acronyms in that last paragraph!

Dec 29, 2010, 10:57am

I usually either try to write a review and save it to my notes on my phone or on a slip of paper I keep in my purse. If I finish the book late at night and I'm not working then I sometimes forget about it for days if it was only a so-so book. It's kinda bad that I remember to review books more at work than at home. But then again I have the kids, husband, and animals trying to distract me at home. Where as at work I usually have nothing but being alone for about 8 hours. Every once in awhile I get a nurse to come visit or a trauma. But not often.

Dec 29, 2010, 11:41am

>37 southernbooklady: & 38 - It's not so impressive, really - LOL! Confession time: I write my reviews for public consumption, but they're really in service to my lack of recollection. I just review as I go along - and it's come in handy, as I have a horrible memory. I tend to remember general characteristics, book "feel" and the like, but I forget characters names and titles, and authors. I reread a lot (probably because I can't remember the finer details), so when I want to track down something I've read I just search my library for what I do remember.

- I suspect if I wasn't a librarian I'd be one of those patrons who come in wanting to find "that red book with the sword on the cover I read 5 years ago, you know, the one that had people fighting in it?" :)

Dec 29, 2010, 11:45am

>51 macsbrains: I suspect you're far from alone in having fluctuating ratings. I do find it interesting to see ratings along with reviews mostly because I like to know why someone like or disliked a book enough to give it the rating they did. But since everyone has their own likes & dislikes it's always a guessing game - and that's half the fun!

Dec 31, 2010, 4:46pm

#41 Wonderful! We'll both do one a month (and I won't count ER books in that total) and that means 12 more for both of us by 2011.

#54 I have to admit that your method for keeping track of book plots is better than mine - scraps of paper (one per author) with basic info and characters. Since these tend to be library books, from friends or trades, I don't have the previous book handy when the next one comes out and can never find the right paper in the pack. I am going to have to rethink whether LT is my books owned or includes books read. But I just had a "burst of light" or a "duh!" moment right now. I can get the plots and characters from the work page of the book. Why didn't I think of that much earlier?

I have't rated books since I have a problem with consistency and how I like a book changes over time. Needlework books are a bit different as I have several standbys that are essential. But the few books in my favorites have been on that list a long, long time.

Jan 2, 2011, 7:33pm

>56 fdholt: - One review a month not counting ER books sounds completely feasible to me!

>54 SunnySD: - fssunnysd, thanks for confessing. I confess too - bad memory for books read! I use both reviews and ratings to help me remember which books I liked and which I didn't. I cannot remember titles, authors, character names, anything! So without something - whether a rating or a review - to remind me, I simply cannot remember if I've even read a given book or not.

Usually, I know after reading the first sentence whether the book will be one I've already read, even if I don't recognize anything about it. I always know by the end of the first page.

>56 fdholt: - Using the works page is a great idea too. I'll remember that trick.

Jan 3, 2011, 2:25am

57> 99% of the time I'll recognize a book by the first few lines. However, I recently reread two books (within the past 6 months) where - well, one I knew I'd read before but not until half-way through, and the other I finally recognized the climactic scene, resolving nagging uneasiness about whether I'd read it before. I've now forgotten what both books are, but I mentioned it in my if I find them again, I'll know that I read them. And if I recall correctly, that I don't want to read them again.

Jan 3, 2011, 7:30am

>58 jjmcgaffey: I have that problem too. I've even found myself avoiding certain authors now because I know I've read several of their books, but can't remember which ones and don't want to re-read any. How silly is that! LOL!

Jan 3, 2011, 5:19pm

56> Aha, I remembered what I wanted to say. You may have to _put_ the plots and characters on the work pages...which is not much harder than putting them on scraps of paper, and much easier to find, besides being helpful to others as well. But there are an awful lot of books that just don't have any info on there. Like fssunnysd, that's one of the things I use reviews for - to remind me which book _this_ one is...

Jan 4, 2011, 9:52am

It is useful to make notes about a book on the "Comments" or "Private Comments" fields until you get around to polishing a review to be put on the work page. Comments can be viewed by anyone visiting your library; private comments are not visible to anyone else.

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