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1ExportFrisian
May 24, 2011, 10:23am

Just checked the Folio site for a casual browse (I should stop doing that) and found a new LE: Voltaire’s Candide. Illustrated and signed by Quentin Blake.

http://www.foliosociety.com/book/CND/candide

Hmm, here we go, yet another LE on the "to buy" list ;)

2LolaWalser
May 24, 2011, 10:34am

Oh nooooooo! There's no chance any will be left by the renewal time, is there? I think this will sell out fast.

3menteith
Edited: May 24, 2011, 11:05am

I think there will be some left at renewal. There are still copies of Moby Dick...the limitation is higher for MD, but it's a great book at a reasonable price and it's been available for a while now.

I like the fact that it comes in a slipcase. Solander boxes are nice, but I like being able to see the actual book while it's on my shelves. The illustrations are perfect. I'm not sure how I feel about the choice of binding yet.

All said, this is a very tempting new offer.

4Quicksilver66
May 24, 2011, 11:22am

I think this could be a no for me - hate the scrawly handwriting on the cover.

5LucasTrask
May 24, 2011, 11:33am

FS is promotiing that "Quentin will be signing and numbering every copy. He has never before autographed a complete edition of this kind".

6Django6924
Edited: May 24, 2011, 12:05pm

As much as I like Quentin Blake's work, I think I'd rather find a copy of the limited edition Candide illustrated by Rockwell Kent which was the very first publication by Random House. Not that I think Kent's work superior to Blake's (from the picture on the website, Blake's illustrations are some of his very finest), but because the Kent Candide was as much a landmark book as Eric Gill's Canterbury Tales or the Arthur Rackham Wind in the Willows. For a very brief, but entertaining look at Kent's work:

http://candide.nypl.org/content/2-minute-emcandideem

(I'm a bit surprised they didn't use some of Bernstein's Candide music for the soundtrack, but how can you complain about Mozart?)

7LipstickAndAviators
May 24, 2011, 12:04pm

Love the edition, but not sure I want to spend £195 on a copy of Candide. Still waiting for a LE of a book I'd really appreciate.

Do we think they'll make a non-LE version of this? Like they did with the Don Quixote and Ulysses editions?

8jveezer
May 24, 2011, 12:26pm

Looks pretty amazing...Would be a no-brainer if I wasn't being extra tight on the ol' book budget.

9RMMee
May 24, 2011, 12:42pm

I've just had an email from FS telling me about the book - it certainly looks good. I think it is high on the list of possible purchases!

10r0lan6
May 24, 2011, 12:47pm

Looks nice, however I am still waiting for the next 'Vellum quarter-binding' special edition book after the The Rime of the Ancient Mariner... perhaps 'Journey's End'...

11astropi
May 24, 2011, 1:04pm

6: actually, I wanted to ask your thoughts about the LEC Candide?

12ironjaw
May 24, 2011, 1:40pm

It is quite amusing that they have chosen to send out an advance notice today at 6 pm exclusively to some members announcing this LE available for pre-order now before it is announced to the wider FS audience although it is available on their website

13Django6924
May 24, 2011, 1:41pm

>11 astropi:

I don't own the LEC Candide, though I have seen it. It is beautifully produced, as you would expect, but I don't care for May Neama's illustrations as much as Sylvain Sauvage's idiomatic and very French illustrations in the Heritage /Nonesuch Press edition--or the ones Fritz Kredel did for the Peter Pauper Press edition of Candide. I only wish Macy had used Smollett's translation for the Heritage/Nonesuch edition. Aldington's is probably more accurate, and is quite fine in its own right, but lacks the flavor of contemporaneity which shines in Smollett's, though there is some question whether Smollett did, in fact, translate this work.

14Stephan68
May 24, 2011, 1:48pm

I expect this to sell out fast, so I just placed my order.

15ironjaw
May 24, 2011, 1:49pm

>4 Quicksilver66: David your not really a Quentin fan?

16HuxleyTheCat
May 24, 2011, 2:05pm

11 / 13 I was just thinking that this looks to be as close to an LEC edition as the FS have come and, being a bit of a fan of Blake, I'm very tempted indeed by this one.

17drasvola
May 24, 2011, 2:22pm

This is the kind of literary work that I would like to have (in a limited edition with appropiate illustrations) in a Spanish translation. However, I think this is a very attractive production. I have the Richard Aldington version in English and the Carlos Pujol one in Spanish. The FS edition will be a welcome addition to my library, so I've just ordered a copy.

18Quicksilver66
Edited: May 24, 2011, 3:40pm

> 15

He's ok Ironjaw, but I would not buy a book just because of him. It's just I really don't like the cover on this LE with it's giant scrawled handwriting. It looks messy - like something a 12 year old kid would produce. I don't think it goes with an Enlightenment classic at all - neither do Blake's illustrations come to think of it. Blake is good for comedy. Candide is ironic not comic. I think Folio have not got the right tone for this. I much prefer the Chris Ware cover on the Penguin De Luxe paperback.

19astropi
May 24, 2011, 3:52pm

16: I agree, this is very much like an LEC book! Still, after shipping it's $415 for US members. A bit pricey for Candide. Also, I'm not a big Q.Blake fan, although I will admit that his illustrations for Candide look spot on in my opinion. However, EP recently announced a limited edition of Ovid's Metamorphoses with 130 vintage illustrations! Furthermore, it includes the original Latin as well as the translation. Since money is tight, if I'm going to splurge I'd much rather splurge on Ovid than Voltaire (both are nearly the same price, but you get much more for your buck with the 2-volume Ovid... not that words/dollar is what justifies a purchase, I'm just noting :) Just my opinion of course, but were I was looking for a LE Candide, this one looks great.

20Django6924
May 24, 2011, 4:26pm

>16 HuxleyTheCat:

My thoughts exactly, Huxley, and did I not already have 3 editions of Candide and an extremely light purse, I would order this one. I love the illustrations, I love the translation, and being limited to just a thousand copies and signed by Blake, I believe it will sell out very quickly--and deservedly so.

21menteith
May 24, 2011, 4:44pm

I've always been a big admirer of both Candide and its author. The more I cycle through the pictures on the website, the more I'm sure I'll eventually get it. Even the binding is growing on me. Burgundy!

22SpoonFed
May 24, 2011, 5:07pm

Candide, Quentin Blake and the Folio Society? This really is the best of all possible worlds, isn't it?

23N11284
May 24, 2011, 6:02pm

#7 They already have published this one. I have a copy of the 1948 FS edition with the beautiful and colourful illustrations by Kenneth Hobson and even though it shows its age I will not be buying the new LE.

24garyjbp
May 24, 2011, 7:01pm

#23: I too have the original FS, a lovely book. The Blake illustrations of the new edition almost seem to be derivatives of the Hobson illustrations. So I don't think I'll be getting the new one either, especially since I have, and have read, it in the original French.

25kdweber
May 24, 2011, 7:12pm

I'm seriously tempted. I've got the EP repro of the LEC version and the Random House copy illustrated by Kent. I'd love to have the Smollett translation but is it worth $400+ for a third copy of Candide?

26featherwate
May 24, 2011, 9:10pm

If Blake and burgundy leather are not to your taste, there is a Limited Edition Candide in rather more, um, robust garb on show at:
Pulp of the Day
Even back in 1956 they were obviously already desperate to find ways of persuading teenage boys to read the classics..
NB 'Limited Edition'? Well, after all these years there won't be many left in circulation and it ain't likely to be reprinted. Ever. So that $2.95 copy available on ebay right now might be a good investment.

27Django6924
May 24, 2011, 11:01pm

>26 featherwate:

Oddly, the salacious cover is tame compared to the actual story, with its multitudes of rapes, casual sex, prostitution, bestiality, and mutilation. (We won't even talk about the Spanish Inquisition.)

28menteith
May 25, 2011, 9:07am

>27 Django6924:

Exactly. What a fabulous little read it is!

29SimB
May 25, 2011, 10:20am

>23 N11284: & 24
I agree about the wonderful illustrations in the 1948 edition
Here's one of my favorites. Quentin Blake also illustrates the same episode in the new LE

30drasvola
May 25, 2011, 11:52am

It's not generally mentioned that the 1755 earthquake was followed by a tsunami with catastrophic consequences for a large part of the Atlantic coast. In fact, Cádiz (where Candide and Co. go next after Lisbon) was nearly wiped out by the giant wave. Candide sees a flotilla in the harbour ready to leave for South America. Very unlikely, but such is "poetic license".

31kiwidoc
May 25, 2011, 11:32pm

As the website mentions, Quentin Blake is now in his 80s and these editions will be signed by him. I am a huge fan of his stuff, althou' do have to agree with the ironic vs. comedic comment above.

I have it 'virtually' burning a hole in my basket!!! I agree it will be a quick seller.

32cronshaw
Edited: May 28, 2011, 4:46pm

I'm afraid I cannot resist this LE! Eighteen full page colour illustrations plus numerous end drawings, signed by the wonderful Quentin Blake, can't say no!

Apparently, according to the Members' Room staff, it's the fastest-ever selling Folio Society LE, expected to be all sold within the three week record of LE Rubaiyat!

I fear it'll not be there for renewal time, unfortunately...

33Virion
May 27, 2011, 8:49am

Thank you cronshaw for the update. Just ordered my copy. Lets go for the record!

34pageboy
May 27, 2011, 9:19am

I am quite underwhelmed by this new limited edition. I acknowledge that Quentin Blake is a fine illustrator but for me his work has too often been married to the wrong book. The Folio edition of 'The Hunchback of Notre Dame' irritated me for that very reason.

35Quicksilver66
May 27, 2011, 10:27am

> 34

Totally agree with that.

36Willoyd
May 27, 2011, 11:30am

Such are the joys of variety and different tastes. Personally, I think Quentin Blake is a superb choice for this book, and ordered a copy almost immediately.

37boldface
May 27, 2011, 11:41am

I came round from my afternoon nap and ordered it immediately, safe in the knowledge that beatlemoon (see Moleiro thread) is coming over to paint The Shed in exchange for board and lodging and a guided tour of the members' room.

Then I woke up properly. O horror! It was only a dream!

(I'm looking forward to Candide, though. I hope I'm not too late!)

38jveezer
May 27, 2011, 11:49am

boldface: I'll volunteer to come round and supervise. I can sit in the shed and make sure the books are safe and maybe have a spot of tea (is that allowed in the shed?) while perusing the shelves. I won't wear my Manchester United jersey if that will upset the neighbors. Then I can tag along and at least maybe get a look at the Candide in the Member's Room since I will probably not be able to order one...

39boldface
May 27, 2011, 11:52am

> 38

Why not? Let's have a party!

40drasvola
Edited: May 27, 2011, 12:45pm

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41Ooshie
May 27, 2011, 6:10pm

I had been intending to use Candide to renew with, but I would be devastated to miss out on it, so have given in and ordered now - along with Pensees. Damn you, 10 equal monthly payments! You make it all too, too easy.

42kiwidoc
Edited: May 28, 2011, 10:25pm

For me, the signature of Quentin Blake alone makes this a 'must' buy, being an ardent admirer of Quentin Blake. I have acquired many books illustrated by him, loving his illustrations of Roald Dahl books many years ago.

Blake seems a favourite of the Folio team.

From Folio 60, in order of publication, I see that he illustrated:

The Hunting of the Snark,
Cold Comfort Farm,
Black Mischief,
Scoop,
Animal Farm,
Voyages to the Moon and the Sun,
Don Quixote,
The Hunchback of Notre Dame,
Comedies of Evelyn Waugh,
The Best of Roald Dahl,
The Complete Tales of Hans Christian Anderson (one of many illustrators),
and a specially bound two volumes reprint of Don Quixote.

That is twelve in all, counting a special reprint, plus the latest LE. Any I missed?

How may weeks do you think this LE will take to sell out?

43despair
May 28, 2011, 11:00pm

I was thinking of holding off till later, but if this is going to sell out as fast as Rubaiyat I will kick myself if I missed this! Just put in an order - treating it as an early birthday present for myself!

44Svartalf
May 28, 2011, 11:48pm

I will personally hold off on this title. Candide is a great book, but it's not worth what Folio is charging for it. Not a fan of Blake.
I agree with Quicksilver on the scrawly handwriting ..it looks childish and stupid. It's defiantly a big turn off for me.
Well, what else - hmmm...
After reading through all the posts - I can't help but feel that some individuals leaving comments sound as though they are agent-provocateurs on FS's payroll and are trying to stir the public opinion and convince us to buy this item...though I have been reading a lot of spy novels lately so that could be it as well. :) Still.....
Final judgment; I'd rather hold back the $400 and wait for the summer sale where I will be able to put my hard earned dollars to better use.

45Quicksilver66
Edited: May 29, 2011, 5:56am

> 44

That makes three of us.

This is how Candide should be illustrated -









ie; - with a degree of gravitas and revulsion that is completely lacking in Blake's work. Admittedly, Chris Ware's cover for Penguin choses not to convey the horrific nature of Candide but he does get across the point of it's biting philosophical irony well.

Quentin Blake is far too lightweight for Candide. I can't remember being more disappointed by a LE than this one. But it will set out quickly because of Blake's name (he holds no mystique for me and he reminds me of children's books, and that's where his real skill lies, not in the adult stuff).

Candide is deliberately a wicked, provocative and dangerous book (which is why I love it) - Blake makes it look as if it's written for a 12 year old.

46drasvola
Edited: May 29, 2011, 6:35am

Repeated message (the new changes are a bit bewildering...)

47drasvola
Edited: May 29, 2011, 6:27am

It seems that nothing provokes more comments than illustrations, covers and translations. In my opinion, there is no set way to illustrate a text, especially if it a classic. Precisely due to its condition in the canon, the text is open to differing and changing interpretations. Candide may be ironic and satirical, but there is no denying that the comical effect (for entertainment and contrast purposes) is in the subtext. Regarding the cover, sorry David, I think that it is not childish at all. It has, on the contrary, a great, definite visual impact. On the other hand, I appreciate your graphical alertness in pointing to Chris Ware's introduction to the story in his cover by such icons of his style as schematic drawing and connecting words.

This LE is high priced, no doubt. This is probably due to Quentin Bell's signature. A case, then, in which all factors have to be weighed by the prospective buyer and collector.

Probably meant tongue-in-cheek, but > 44's comment on agents provocateurs misses the point of these discussions by a long stretch...

48menteith
May 29, 2011, 8:52am

>47 drasvola:

Agreed. Everyone will respond to a work differently and pick up on different elements in varying degrees. Candide is a dark story indeed, but I remember it mostly as an incredibly funny work.

I really like Alan Odle's illustrations for Candide but think Quentin Blake goes really well here too. I'll be ordering this as soon as I get that new job...that is, if it's not gone by that point.

49despair
May 29, 2011, 12:55pm

It is a little off putting to read what some members are saying in this thread. Have an opinion for all you want, but to be so dismissive about other LT members is more than a little impolite, no?

50sakayume
May 29, 2011, 1:30pm

I'll admit to being ignorant, but I was wondering why Quentin Blake's art style looked familiar, until I read this thread and realized he illustrated the Roald Dahl books I'd read a long time ago. I quite like the look of his illustrations, although I'm still partial to the ones Sylvain Sauvage did for the Nonesuch/Heritage Press edition, and this new Candide sounds lovely. But alas, my budget doesn't stretch so far!

51Willoyd
May 29, 2011, 3:42pm

Gosh, some strong feelings being expressed here. Personally, I disagree with Quicksilver, Svartalf et al.. I haven't bought this book because of Blake's name, but actually because I think he makes a thoroughly appropriate illustrator, far more satirical than some give him credit for, and certainly not 'childish', 'stupid' or 'lightweight'. But then I thought that too when he illustrated Animal Farm and Don Quixote.

52Quicksilver66
Edited: May 29, 2011, 3:51pm

> 47, 48

Yes - it is interesting to see how people have different takes on a novel. I have never been able to laugh at Candide which is why I have a very different take on how it should be illustrated. However, I realise that I am in the minority.

> 51

It comes from disappointment, Willoyd. I would love to have had a LE Candide that I liked. I can't bring myself to buy this one.

53Willoyd
May 29, 2011, 5:16pm

I have never been able to laugh at Candide
Actually, nor have I. But then I very, very rarely laugh at books - I find I get my laughs mainly from radio and theatre.

54RMMee
May 29, 2011, 6:06pm

And I've never read Candide. I'm looking forward to doing so, and will try to remember to let you know whether I laugh or not!!!!

55Django6924
May 29, 2011, 6:11pm

I get mine from reading the Globe when I'm in line at the supermarket....

56Atheistic
May 29, 2011, 6:14pm

I had never read it either but after all the discussion on here I downloaded it to my kindle and am half way through it. It is very very interesting and I definitely find that although graphic there is a comic element to it all.

57cronshaw
May 29, 2011, 6:49pm

>49 despair:,51 I quite agree that there should be room for all opinion without the strength of one ever needing to appear dismissive of another. Personally (obviously!), I find Blake's interpretation of Candide mirrors wonderfully the comic tone of the work, and I love the cover, but it would be frightfully dull if everyone felt the same...

58drasvola
May 30, 2011, 4:46am

Having reread the whole thread, I don't see where anyone has become dismissive of others. Many of us know each other's opinions quite well, and I believe we can be open in our posts. We don't agree on some things, but I would say that respect and politeness is always prevalent.

59Quicksilver66
May 30, 2011, 8:07am

> 58

I agree, Antonio. We all feel passionately about FS books and we all have our opinions, pro and con. This site would be dull without the odd fight. But at the end of the day we are all family.

60Texaco
Edited: May 30, 2011, 11:28am

6: The LEC Candide is very high on my list of 'must have' books and Bennett Cerf speaks lovingly of its* production and Rockwell Kent in his memoir At Random.

*the LE Candide by Random House

61SimB
May 30, 2011, 11:11am

>58 drasvola:, 59

Having recently read Candide I've found this a most interesting thread..opinions about the book, and the different ways it has been illustrated. I don't think its a particularly "black book", but there is a lot of "black humour". In some sense its the forebearer of "Catch 22" and "The House of God"...if I'm not stretching things too far.

Here's some illustrations I would like to see..

Candide, as a youth, with his first kiss with Cunegonde as the first plate

Candide with a sour look on his face when, after all his travels, when, out of a sense of duty,he finally marries Cunegonde who has become ugly and argumentative as the years have passed.

Admiral Byng being shot at Portsmouth for not having sent enough sailors to their death in a battle against the French. Although not specifically mentioned in Candide the signal for the execution squad was the Admiral dropping a hankerchief. I think a blindfolded Admiral facing the squad with the hankerchief dropping from his hand could be a most poignant illustration. It's a minor episode in the book, but one of the most memorable to me, as I have come upon this scene in other works over the years

62drasvola
May 30, 2011, 11:32am

> 61

"...but in this country {England} it is a good thing to kill an admiral from time to time to encourage the others." Delicious!

63beatlemoon
May 30, 2011, 12:55pm

Candide didn't leave much of an impression on me the first time I read it (at 18, for a lit class I don't remember much of, other than the truly crazy professor).

This edition is temping, as I LOVE Quentin Blake; have ever since I was a child. His illustrations for Dahl's children's books are incredible. (Matilda's parents are some of my favorite illustrations of all time).

But of course, I hesitate, both due to budget reasons and I find it hard to justify spending this much on a book I don't love with all my heart...

Is a mere autograph worth $400+?

64astropi
May 30, 2011, 1:05pm

63: there is no such thing as "a mere autograph". I think an autographed book is something special. But, As for the monetary value of a book, here is an (extreme) example of what an autograph can do. The EP Lysistrata, which is a very beautiful book, and of high quality (definitely higher than the EP 100 Greatest) sells for under $50. The LEC Lysistrata, which is arguably, perhaps slighly higher quality than the EP book, sells for around $4000. Why? One reason: it's signed by Picasso.

65spacmann
Jun 2, 2011, 8:45am

Just thought I would pass this along. I ordered the LE Candide yesterday and in my order confirmation was the following note:

Orders for Candide are being processed on a first come, first served basis and demand is exceptionally high. This acknowledgement is confirmation of our receipt of your order, it does not guarantee that you will receive a copy. No payment will be taken unless we are able to fulfill your order.

66boldface
Jun 2, 2011, 9:00am

Just checked my order on the website. Phew! It's at "Items pending" and they've charged me the first instalment.

67yllanes
Jun 2, 2011, 9:34am

Same here, I ordered it a couple of days ago and it appeared as "Processing", but I see that now they have charged me.

I've been quite lucky, I have just signed up here at LibraryThing and it is only because this thread suggested an unusually high demand that I bought it so soon (I had only recently bought the LE Moby Dick and didn't want to spend so much so soon).

68drasvola
Jun 2, 2011, 10:12am

Checked my FS account, and I've been charged for Candide...

69jveezer
Jun 2, 2011, 10:18am

Just received the flyer and as usual it is even more compelling than the website. Looks like a great edition.

70kdweber
Jun 2, 2011, 1:31pm

Pending and first payment charged here.

71Svartalf
Jun 2, 2011, 8:44pm

Hey guys, I saw that many of you hinted on not being too happy with my comment on agent-provocateurs.
First I guess I should apologist, I did not mean to offend anyone. It was meant as a joke more than anything.
I do love to read and collect FS book and as Quicksilver pointed out I am very passionate about them.

That said however, I must point out in my defense that forum manipulations for the benefit of businesses or government organizations are known to happen. In fact, in today's world online agent-provocateur is a growing filed. Although they are not called agent-provocateurs because it doesn't sound that well...so the 'correct' job title is 'social media assistant'.
For example here is an advertisement for such social media assistant that was put out by US government;
http://newjobscorner.com/2011/01/us-embassy-social-media-assistant-jobs-opportun...

Also if you just google the job title - 'social media assistant' you will see a whole range of companies that are offering their services and are engaged in the business of manipulation of public opinion for the benefit of their clients...so...

72kiwidoc
Jun 2, 2011, 11:57pm

#71 While I am absolutely certain that FS takes time out to read and review comments posted on this site, I doubt very much that they would use such techniques to encourage sales.

We just happen to be a very enthusiastic group here, and it is not the slightest problem if opinions differ - just so long as they do not become personal or mean-spirited!

73Django6924
Jun 3, 2011, 12:36am

I've been found out: I admit to being an agent-provocateur--for the Heritage Press. (Is it so reprehensible since they are no longer in business?)

74haniwitch
Jun 3, 2011, 12:43am

#71
Why would FS pay anyone to do what the Devotees do for free? I think the word "enablers" has come up a few times. ;-)

Why, I remember a time before I found this forum when I purchased no more than the required four books a year. Now I'm lucky if I get away with four books a month. And it isn't just FS books.

And it isn't as if we were even doing it on purpose. It's just that the postings on this forum are usually much better sales pitches than the FS website. I personally have bought a few books that I wasn't even considering until pictures and reviews were posted here. Even photos from posters who apologized for their poor quality are frequently much better than anything on the FS website. FS could do with a few lessons from some of our members.

75LipstickAndAviators
Jun 3, 2011, 4:27am

>74 haniwitch:

I was about to say the Folio don't need to employ anyone to do that here! We're all doign it for them already!

Plus I don't really see 'agent provocateur' as a negative sounding thing, I wish it were my job title. Sounds much sexier than software test engineer.

On topic y'all just broke me and I put an order in for this and the new Utopia, currently still pending though :(

Not sure if I'd have a better chance if I applied via post as I got one of those 'rpiority mail order forms' through?

76Ooshie
Jun 3, 2011, 4:46am

Pending and first payment paid here, too - yay! :)

77LipstickAndAviators
Jun 3, 2011, 4:48am

Damn y'all with your first payments paid! I'm in no real hurry for them to take my money but I'd like the book :(

78spacmann
Jun 3, 2011, 11:00am

Well, my first payment for Candide was charged today, although my order on the FS website says it's still processing. I'm going to assume that my order will be filled since they took payment.

There might still be a few (or a lot) left.

79BorisG
Edited: Jun 3, 2011, 11:30am

I got worried, since my card hasn't been charged yet, and decided to call the FS. They said I was fine :-) and that my copy was number four hundred seventy something; I placed my order two days ago.

80friso_geerlings
Jun 3, 2011, 11:42am

As a big fan of Quentin Blake it was very hard to resist this. It surprises me that it took me about a week to click the "order" button ;-) I guess the printed prospectus package did the trick once again; I just placed my order. What a great publication! I look forward to the delivery date.

81elmaynard
Jun 8, 2011, 11:50am

I just could not resist this one. It will by my first LE, so I am excited. Love the illustrations.

82drasvola
Jun 9, 2011, 4:51am

> 80

The printed prospectus is so much better than the webpage! Really, FS should do something about online presentations.

83cronshaw
Jun 10, 2011, 2:10pm

I'm so excited - popped into the Members' Room this week and saw (and carressed, breathed in, and marvelled at) the display copy of Candide. It is BEAUTIFUL! The book's dimensions are unusually square which shows off Blake's numerous full page illustrations magnificently. I think everyone who ordered one, even though they may have baulked at the price, is going to be absolutely delighted!

84P3p3_Pr4ts
Jun 13, 2011, 12:02pm

> 71.. Around May 1st the FS Twitter account all of a sudden..became hyperactive

http://twitter.com/#!/foliosociety

So it is no urban legend that they must have someone in this line of job; never-mind if "social media" is in his/her job description..

I agree that if he/she is to match this group's enabling prowess he/ she will end up a Google VP..

85LucasTrask
Jun 14, 2011, 1:30pm

Candide is showing Sold Out on the website.

86friso_geerlings
Jun 14, 2011, 2:16pm

Wow, that was fast! I guess it didn't really beat the Rubaiyat of omar khayyam L.E., but I wouldn't be surprised if it came in 2nd as fastest selling L.E. ever!

87Texaco
Jun 14, 2011, 2:24pm

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

88Stephan68
Jun 14, 2011, 2:39pm

I just checked the old Rubaiyat LE thread and the book was first mentioned on LT on 17 September 2009 and sold out 16 October 2009. That is just about one months. However Candide sold out in only three weeks (24 May – 14 June), which should make it the fastest selling FS LE so far!

89Texaco
Jun 14, 2011, 2:44pm

I think for history's sake I'll be placing a copy of this thread into my Candide, it might bring a bit of joy to the lucky person who inherits it.

90cwl
Edited: Jun 15, 2011, 6:00am

The turnover probably has a lot to do with the relatively low price point, making it available to a much larger market than other titles. I saw it in person in the reading room and decided to pass on this one - no regrets, although it is probably a reasonable investment. I wasn't especially keen on the illustrations, and the text was in English. I'm sure those who did buy it will thoroughly enjoy it whilst cultivating their gardens.

91menteith
Edited: Jun 15, 2011, 9:29am

Boy was I way off! I thought it would last a bit longer. I guess it's the signature that did it.

All in all, this is probably for the best. If it had still been around in July I would have pulled the trigger. Instead I can now buy a bunch of books in the summer sale and still come off spending less.

92LipstickAndAviators
Edited: Jun 16, 2011, 8:29am

Annoyingly I've apparently missed out on this. Mostly annoyed because I ordered DAYS before it came off sale and the very same day i received my 'priority order form' in the post.

I think this actually sold out much quicker than 3 weeks.

Thinking of buying something else extravagant like the sale versions of the Kelmscott or Walden just to make up for it :(

93RMMee
Jun 24, 2011, 12:24pm

Mine's showing "At Warehouse" - not long to wait for it now!

94drasvola
Jun 24, 2011, 12:47pm

Yeah... "at warehouse" and two installments paid. I suppose that means I'll get a copy ;-)

95spacmann
Jun 24, 2011, 1:45pm

Me too!

96Virion
Jun 25, 2011, 5:05am

at warehouse with me too.

I mailed folio a couple of days ago asking if i would get a copy after it said "jun publication" for so long. I was told i was getting one and that my limitation number would be 266. I ordered on 27May11. This book went fast.

97LipstickAndAviators
Jun 27, 2011, 5:24am

>96 Virion:

I know, I didn't get one :(

I don't think I even waited a week from when it went up on the site, I don't know how I missed it. Annoyingly they went on and processed the rest of my roder without telling me I didn't get it, in fact they still haven't officially told me, but since the order says complete and the book is nowhere to been I guess I missed out.

Congrats to all you guys who get it, post pictures when you can!

98yllanes
Jun 27, 2011, 11:02am

"Despatched"

99ExportFrisian
Jun 27, 2011, 11:13am

>98 yllanes:. Same here!
Usually LEs are shipped faster then regular books. With a bit of luck it might even arrive this week.

100kdweber
Jun 27, 2011, 12:53pm

Mine's still at the warehouse.

101yllanes
Edited: Jun 27, 2011, 1:05pm

Not only despatched but arrived! I can't be the first one, being in Spain. Number 404.

102elmaynard
Jun 27, 2011, 3:27pm

yllanes,
I am so excited for you. I hope mine comes soon!

103boldface
Edited: Jun 27, 2011, 4:00pm

Mine's "At warehouse"! Mind you, so is The History of England: From the Accession of James II, and I received that more than a week ago!

104yllanes
Jun 27, 2011, 4:32pm

Mine appeared as "despatched" today for the first time, but of course it was sent on Friday (from the postmark).

105ironjaw
Jun 28, 2011, 4:45am

Well, this morning around 8 am received FS LE Candide. Can't wait to get back home after work.

106podaniel
Jun 28, 2011, 7:42am

Mine's "at warehouse" too--with just one installment paid.

107Stephan68
Jun 28, 2011, 3:09pm

Got mine today. Number 43.

108Willoyd
Jun 29, 2011, 5:33pm

> 103 Mine's "At warehouse"! Mind you, so is The History of England: From the Accession of James II, and I received that more than a week ago!
So's mine, but it's been like that for almost 10 days now, and doesn't seem to have moved any further!

109drasvola
Jun 30, 2011, 3:52am

Confirmed: Postal deliveries to small villages take one or two days longer. Have received my copy of Candide. Beautiful! I have number 46.

110ironjaw
Jun 30, 2011, 5:30am

Sounds wonderful Antonio! Mine is 425.

111Virion
Jun 30, 2011, 6:19am

Received mine aswell

112menteith
Jun 30, 2011, 8:57am

Hmmm...no one who has received seems to be saying much about it. Is it to spare the rest of us from jealousy?

113ironjaw
Jun 30, 2011, 9:26am

I think we are all taking a moment to take it all in.

114boldface
Edited: Jun 30, 2011, 10:09am

> 112

It arrived this morning. No need to worry, menteith. I have the package in front of me now. In fact, it's not as big as I had thought. Not that heavy, either. Just your bog-standard FS LE at the modest end of the market.

I'm opening it now . . . . Well-packed. But no solander box. Just a slipcase. No companion volume. In fact, I'm already having second thoughts about this one. So it has QB's signature. Was I really seduced by that!!

Got the shrink-wrap off now. Oh! it's really not that spec . . . .

Ooooooh! . . . the smell of the leather . . . the richness of the gilt decoration . . . the thickness of the crisp modigliani paper . . . the vibrant limpidity of the pellucid watercolours . . . that signature!

Mmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aaaaaaaaagh . . . . . .

115Svartalf
Jun 30, 2011, 10:02am

> 114 lol,
This could be a good advertisment idea for FS.
"Touch our books - get an orgazm." :P

116phoenixmemnon
Jun 30, 2011, 12:06pm

First reaction the usual overwhelming relief at having removed the shrink-wrap without scarring the slipcase. Then it was a case of When Phoenix met Quentin - I had what boldface had.

Think I'll ease off with a cigarette now...*

phx

*At the far end of the backyard of course.

117beatlemoon
Jun 30, 2011, 12:26pm

Ha, Folio finally produced porn for bibliophiles.

Bunch of teases, you lot are! :)

118ironjaw
Jun 30, 2011, 12:34pm

Oh yeah be VERY careful when opening the packaging especially when a knife is involved. the tape around the opening of the box flaps is touching the slipcase so if you use a knife to cut open it will cut the slipcase

119drasvola
Jun 30, 2011, 12:44pm

Yes. There is a label on the package warning "Open With Care". In my case the shrinkwrap was also very tight. I agree with boldface. The book smells wonderfully and with ironjaw on his comments (elsewhere) about the illustrations. They are not at all comical. Surprisingly, the book is not heavy; it opens very comfortably for reading.

120yllanes
Jun 30, 2011, 2:10pm

Great book, not that heavy, as others have said, and very comfortable to read (it opens flat). The paper is fantastic (all the pages use the same paper as, for instance, the plates of Count Belisarius). I like the slipcase option for this one. Still, I would have liked a commentary volume.

121Willoyd
Jun 30, 2011, 2:18pm

So's mine, but it's been like that for almost 10 days now, and doesn't seem to have moved any further!
Goody - changed to 'despatched' today!

122ExportFrisian
Jun 30, 2011, 3:13pm

Hurray! My book also arrived. Just unpacked it and I have number 40. Smells like a nice book ;)

I have taken some pictures. Sorry for the crappy pictures and yes I have a chronic lack of shelf space.



This LE comes in just a slipcase:




Signature with the copy number:


Some random pages with a Blake illustration:



Book is a rather small and I would have preferred a solander box:

123ironjaw
Jun 30, 2011, 4:08pm

>122 ExportFrisian: Export

Now that looks like a home we could certainly all could transform into a FS Devotees' Reading Sanctuary. All those whiskey bottles could come in handy for the next FS Devotees Annual Meeting.

124menteith
Jun 30, 2011, 4:11pm

>122 ExportFrisian:

Nice photos! The illustrations look great.

I have to say I actually prefer the slipcase to the solander boxes. I prefer to see the actual book, and I like the spine of this particular volume.

On another note, is this how all LEs come packaged? It actually looks less protective than the standard bubble wrap in a box method. My Easton Press books used to come packaged like that and I received so many damaged books from them that I eventually stopped ordering from them altogether.

125ironjaw
Jun 30, 2011, 4:15pm

>124 menteith: I think this is a one-off - all of my FS LE have come in sturdy well packed packages

126yllanes
Jun 30, 2011, 6:20pm

>124 menteith: Also, the LEs are sent via an express service which, presumably, treats the packages more nicely than the standard surface mail option.

127astropi
Jul 1, 2011, 12:14am

Thanks for the pics! I agree, a slipcase here is preferable to a solander box, but that's because the book is "normal" size. For a huge volume, you would want a solander box, since a slipcase would just fall apart.

128busywine
Jul 1, 2011, 2:12am

Damn, mine is trying to be delivered but I am out of town on vacation...someone getting my mail said there is an attempted delivery from FS, but nobody there to take it. Hope it does not get sent back!!!

129ironjaw
Jul 1, 2011, 3:19am

>128 busywine: Let us all brothers and sisters of this secret society gather in prayer for our dearest member busywine for the successful delivery of his beloved Candide.

130podaniel
Jul 1, 2011, 11:22am

I just got my Candide yesterday--Number 951. So, I guess I must have been one of the last ones to get an order through.

131boldface
Jul 1, 2011, 1:31pm

> 127 "For a huge volume, you would want a solander box, since a slipcase would just fall apart."

The slipcase for this volume is noticeably sturdier than the FS standard.

132spacmann
Jul 1, 2011, 3:23pm

I received 506 today. Beautiful - the leather is so buttery soft.

133Willoyd
Jul 1, 2011, 3:42pm

Goody - changed to 'despatched' today!
And here very rapidly. No. 332. Just love it, including the illustrations which I think I just right, contradicting some opinions very forcibly and effectively (see early posts on this thread).

134affle
Jul 2, 2011, 5:46am

Article in today's Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/jul/01/candide-voltaire-rereading-julian-ba...
Almost makes me wish I'd joined the scrum for this LE.

135Texaco
Jul 2, 2011, 11:13am

Got 168...simply fabulous!!

136elmaynard
Jul 2, 2011, 12:52pm

I received number 509 yesterday. Had a moment of panic when I saw the box - one edge and corner badly crushed. Fortunately the book is in perfect condition. I have never seen a Folio LE before, this is my first. It is absolutely beautiful. I can't get over how different this leather feels compared with other leather books I have.

I did notice that some of the other LE's refference Wassa Goatskin leather. Does anyone know the difference between this and Nigerian Goatskin? Just curious as I had no idea there was such a difference in leathers for book bindings.

137featherwate
Edited: Jul 3, 2011, 12:10pm

Wassa is a district of western Ghana. Goats are notoriously prone to roam, but as Nigerian goats would have to traverse Togo and Benin to reach Ghana, I think we have to assume Wassa goats are sui generis and not Nigerian goats that fled in a doomed search for sanctuary when they heard that the Man from Folio was back in Lagos with his container ship and humane killer.
Tanning is a traditional craft in Ghana that has been in danger of dying out (from failing to adapt to new technologies), so perhaps in sourcing skins from there the FS and other LE publishers are making a genuinely useful contribution to the country's economy.
NB For a picture of Wassa goats see
http://www.ghanadistricts.com/districts1on1/tarkwansuaem/?arrow=nws&read=372...
Just think: one of them could even now be wrapped around your Candide!

138boldface
Jul 3, 2011, 2:05pm

> 134 "Article in today's Guardian"

This is, in fact, a reprint of Julian Barnes's introduction to the FS edition.

139affle
Jul 3, 2011, 4:10pm

> 138 Thank you. How odd that it not so acknowledged.

140elmaynard
Jul 3, 2011, 4:56pm

> 137
Thank you for the information.

141featherwate
Jul 3, 2011, 6:12pm

> 138:
"This is, in fact, a reprint of Julian Barnes's introduction to the FS edition."
And the Guardian being the Grauniad, there's a typo in the reprint: millenium for millennium!

142celtic
Jul 7, 2011, 3:32pm

I received a copy of 'Candide' this week and couldn't resist reading it (first time I have read it for 30 years!).

I find some of the comments about the illustrations above interesting. The story of Candide and his initial optimism is satirical, sarcastic, mordant, allegorical and exhibits one of the sharpest wits you will find in a book from that era. I found that the illustrations fitted the text perfectly.

One of the comments made about Quentin Blake was that he was only really suitable for childrens books. Well, he is probably most famous for illustrating the books of Roald Dahl. I have always felt that one of the great attractions of some of Dahl's childrens books to young and older people alike was his ability to break out of the normal style you would expect in a young persons book and produce stories that were mordant, sarcastic, witty and satirical (with a healthy dose of sinister undercurrents) - some of the same qualities I found in Candide and , for me, this makes Quentin Blake eminently qualified as an illustrator of Voltaire.

Many people can draw, but when it comes to illustrations very few can get to the essence of scene or phrase in a few 'scribbled' lines. The ones that can seem, to me, to bring something magical to a witty and satirical text in a way that more 'studied' mediums (painting, engraving etc.) don't. Having read the book and enjoyed the illustrations I think this is the best thing Quentin Blake has done.

As for the rest of the production values of the book. I love the cover design and agree that it is scrawly, but feel that is exactly what is needed as an intro to the images you will find inside.

The squarer shape is different and not only supports the presentation of the illustrations (well printed on one side of the page only), but also gives a generous margin to text.

The use of Garamond as a font for Candide is appropriate and the typesetting and standard of printing are beyond reproach.

One of the best books the FS have produced.

143jveezer
Jul 7, 2011, 6:54pm

I missed the boat (on purpose due to a somewhat rare fit of fiduciary responsibility) so I picked up the Nonesuch/Heritage edition with the Sylvain Sauvage illustrations for $12. I've been wanting to read the book for a while and all the discussion sparked by the FS LE made me bump it up on the "to read" list and go out and get a copy.

I have to say I love the book so far and really like Sauvage's illustrations.

"My dear young lady," replied Candide, "when a man is in love, jealous, and has been flogged by the Inquisition, he is beside himself."

144kdweber
Jul 7, 2011, 9:18pm

I also like the Sylvain Sauvage illustrations but I'm happy that all three of my copies of Candide have different translators and illustrators. It's probably time to start looking for a fine print edition in French.

145Django6924
Jul 7, 2011, 9:28pm

I'm also a big fan of the Sauvage illustrations, and like my Peter Pauper edition with Fritz Kredel's work. Being also a big fan of Smollett's trqnslation, I would have loved to get the FS LE, but alas, financially it wasn't possible.

146busywine
Jul 9, 2011, 6:29pm

147despair
Jul 9, 2011, 11:08pm

And I'm still waiting for my copy to arrive! Harumph.

148RMMee
Jul 10, 2011, 3:47am

I see that there's already a copy on sale on Ebay, with a starting bid of $775

149drasvola
Jul 10, 2011, 5:41am

Oh, it was bound to happen (facile pun, I know).

150despair
Jul 14, 2011, 8:16am

Finally got mine today - copy #402. But too tired to thumb through because just came back from a full-on Harry Potter movie marathon which lasted 25 hours!

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