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Edited: Jun 21, 2011, 2:30pm Top

I've taken the first step in a multi-step project called "Better sharing."

This topic is for discussing the larger issues here. Please go to this thread for bugs.

You can see the first stirrings of it the top of the site, a new icon that looks like . Click it or go there with: http://www.librarything.com/yourfeed.php

Yours will probably be empty. We're not "backfilling" data yet, so only new stuff you do will go into your feed. If you want to see a sample of someone else's feed, go to: http://www.librarything.com/yourfeed.php?test=1

(The data is bogus, but you can see the full scope of the feed.)

The Goal:

1. To finally give members a good way to post what they're doing and what they love from LibraryThing to Facebook and Twitter. (This part is now in place!)
2. Increase LibraryThing social velocity and network effects--to give members new ways of relating to each other through books and draw new members in.
3. Keep LibraryThing's uniquely respectful, adult approach to social software. That is our goal is not to screw you, like everyone else does.

The core feature here is (currently) being called "News Feed." It's a record of most of the things you do on LibraryThing, starting with the current "Connection News" features--adding books, rating books, reviewing books. The News Feed tracks many more things.

Worriers please stop screaming!

1. Right now you are the ONLY person who can see your news feed.
2. When it expands you will be allowed--indeed you will be forced--to decide what you want to share and what you don't. You will be able to share everything, nothing or some things. And you will be able to decide whom to sahre with--everyone, no one or just friends. So don't worry; everything will be entirely under your control.

Stages of development:

1. Add your News Feed (done)
2. Add sharing for Twitter and Facebook (done)
3. Show prototypes of the next step and discuss the social questions to death. (Yes, we're going to have "comment" and probably "like" links, like Facebook. But you will able to control things entirely.)
4. Roll out seeing other people's feeds doing only and replacing what the current Connections News feature does.
5. Roll out full News Feed feature.
6. Force all users to decide what sort of sharing they do or don't want.
7. Rest.

Screen shots

The News Feed for a bogus user. You can't see anyone else, except for yourself.

Posting to Facebook

Posting to Facebook

Post in Facebook

Jun 21, 2011, 2:18pm Top

And on the seventh day, Tim rested.

Jun 21, 2011, 2:19pm Top


Jun 21, 2011, 2:20pm Top

Glad I ate all my cookies before getting back to the computer!


Edited: Jun 21, 2011, 2:21pm Top

Hey, no fair! I was supposed to have post 2! :) Anyway, I added screen shots.

Jun 21, 2011, 2:21pm Top

Will this be expanded to include a way to Tweet/FB what we're currently reading?

Jun 21, 2011, 2:22pm Top

>6 DaynaRT: - You can do that with the feature as is (by adding a book to Currently Reading) if you like :-)

Edited: Jun 21, 2011, 2:24pm Top

Nice. Thanks, Jeremy.

Jun 21, 2011, 2:25pm Top

Ooh! It shows my recent CK edit!

Jun 21, 2011, 2:28pm Top

OK, I give up. Where exactly is that icon at the top of the site? I don't see it.

Jun 21, 2011, 2:29pm Top

These feeds will eventually be the stream into the "Your Connections" homepage module, right?

With so many new data potentially included in the feed, I'm wondering if it will tend to overload my ability to keep current with it, and mean that I'll choose to view activity from fewer other users.

Jun 21, 2011, 2:31pm Top

10: Me neither


Jun 21, 2011, 2:31pm Top

>10 jjwilson61: Next to your username in the corner

Jun 21, 2011, 2:33pm Top

>12 vaneska:

I had it only showing if there was content—if you've DONE something since I introduced it. I've added now either way, though yours will be empty.

Edited: Jun 21, 2011, 2:34pm Top

Ah thank you. Was it really there a few minutes ago? :rolleyes I'mgoingmad:


eta: ah - :notgoingmad: cf Tim's 14

Edited: Jun 21, 2011, 2:35pm Top

#10 - Never mind. LOL

Thanks, Tim.

Jun 21, 2011, 3:05pm Top


So if all we do is combine a book, it's going to look like we edited the CK when it combines the two entries?

Jun 21, 2011, 3:09pm Top

>17 gilroy:

No, shouldn't.

Jun 21, 2011, 3:12pm Top

18 >

Take a look at my feed then, Tim. Second book (after the miscarriage) and third book (101 essential Pregnancy Facts) listed as combined, its also showing that I edited the CK. All I did with those books was combine them. No editing.

Jun 21, 2011, 3:16pm Top

>19 gilroy: - CK history has you adding first and last words to those titles this afternoon ...

Jun 21, 2011, 3:17pm Top

>19 gilroy: - Sorry that's first/last words on the "After the miscarriage" book and series/canonical title on the "101 essential" book

Edited: Jun 21, 2011, 3:43pm Top

This is really nice and would be useful to me, even though I wouldn't link my LT account to FB or Twitter (which I don't have an account on anyway).

How far back will this feed keep entries, btw? I don't mean the backfilling, I mean going forward. I think it'd also be a handy way to keep track of what you did and when you did it, especially for bug reports.

ETA: Moved to Open Questions thread.

Jun 21, 2011, 3:28pm Top

Very nice. This has given me the excuse (and push) I needed to scan & add some of my old books. At first FB was showing my default cover for the first of two volumes, but after I deleted that entry it showed up again on it's own sporting the correct cover. Odd!

Jun 21, 2011, 3:32pm Top

This is too much to swallow, I think, so I've started a thread specifically to get to the "Open Questions" I have on my mind:

Jun 21, 2011, 3:34pm Top

So, will we also have the option to limit what of other people's shared things we want to see? Just because User X decides that their CK edits are newsworthy doesn't necessarily mean I want to see them.

Jun 21, 2011, 3:34pm Top

>25 _Zoe_: - The exact question I just asked Tim :-)

Edited: Jun 21, 2011, 4:11pm Top

Anyone else want to see '#librarything ' automatically added to the Twitter share?

Jun 21, 2011, 4:13pm Top

>27 clamairy: - I do, too :-)

Jun 21, 2011, 4:20pm Top

#27 by clamairy> in conjunction, how about @ Librarything for FB? (correctly formatted of course)

Jun 21, 2011, 4:31pm Top

I don't see a review in the bogus data - a published review, and a rating, but no member review. I wanted to see how it was going to show that. Both on LT and on Twitter (though I presume on Twitter it will be like the rating/like it is now, title author and link.

Jun 21, 2011, 4:36pm Top

#29 - Yes, that, too!

Jun 21, 2011, 5:00pm Top

I don't quite understand what this is.

So I'm clear, if we're not on either Facebook or Twitter, this won't affect us at all, is that right? If that's right, that's all I need to know.

If I'm wrong, though, please explain what this is.

Jun 21, 2011, 5:02pm Top

>32 lilithcat: - It'll show you all the "things" you do on LT (like connections news does) - see the test example:


Jun 21, 2011, 5:07pm Top

> 34

So, I do stuff, and it tells me what I've done? That's it? What's the point? I know what I've done!

Jun 21, 2011, 5:17pm Top

Looking more at the example, I'd say that letting us specify what sorts of news we want to see is absolutely critical. A lot of the stuff on there is just plain boring.

Jun 21, 2011, 5:26pm Top

>35 _Zoe_: - Yes, I agree entirely.

Jun 21, 2011, 5:51pm Top

I hope that "uploaded cover for _____" gets added to the feed at some point, but I guess it'd need to visibly track when we upload covers first.

I just added 2 covers to some books that didn't have matching/good covers before, and I was really hopeful that I could then publish that action to Twitter.

Jun 21, 2011, 5:57pm Top

19 - That's what always happens with combining, in the CK history. If you combine something with something else that has CK, it shows the combiner as having added all the CK anew (lists it on the book history, counts it towards your contributions/badges, and, I think, lists your name on the "series"/"award"/place/etc page for that piece of CK info.

The system also counts you as having "added" a published review even if all you do is edit one that someone else added.

Probably all those secondary things shouldn't show up in the feed?

Jun 21, 2011, 6:00pm Top

Looking more at the example, I'd say that letting us specify what sorts of news we want to see is absolutely critical. A lot of the stuff on there is just plain boring.

Since this is only visible to the member herself right now, do you mean we need another setting to specify what the member herself sees? So: one setting (to be added later, Tim's said) to specify what gets shared/made public, and another setting where you can hide things from seeing them yourself? That seems overkill to me. If the total activity feed is only visible to me, I don't see any need to hide things from myself.

Jun 21, 2011, 6:09pm Top

>20 jbd1: No, I mean when we get to the point of seeing other people's feeds. So the user chooses what they want to publish (say, books added, reviewed, rated, and read, and CK edits), but I can still choose not to see CK edits for anyone.

Jun 21, 2011, 6:10pm Top

>38 rsterling:. Wow. I had no idea that happened. That's just bizarre. I'm not sure that's intended or not, but I'll check with CH tomorrow.

Jun 21, 2011, 6:23pm Top

>38 rsterling:

See other thread about CK.

About published reviews that may well be a bug. Although it does resave the data to account for any changes, it should know the difference between initiation and editing. (Published reviews are not CK, however.)

Edited: Jun 21, 2011, 9:14pm Top

I like where this feature is heading. One thing I haven't seen yet: It would be nice to be have my feed available via RSS for my non-LT friend's Google Reader.

Jun 21, 2011, 6:56pm Top


Jun 21, 2011, 7:01pm Top

43-44. It'd be great if this replaced the existing RSS feeds too, especially if that includes filtering out what we don't want to include in RSS (i.e. including less in RSS than currently).

Edited: Jun 21, 2011, 7:05pm Top

I'm certainly more interested in RSS than either |f| or |t|, curse them both.

Jun 21, 2011, 8:06pm Top

Jun 21, 2011, 9:46pm Top

Well, since apparently my questions didn't apparently fit into what the "open questions" thread was supposed to be about, I guess I'll repost them:

How far back will this feed keep entries, btw? I don't mean the backfilling, I mean going forward. I think it'd also be a handy way to keep track of what you did and when you did it, especially for bug reports.

Edited: Jun 22, 2011, 12:40am Top

I have to say that I *cracked up* at the OP: "Worriers please stop screaming!"

37: I'd loooooove that! Keeping track of "uploaded cover for (such and such book)" would be awesome!

I will definitely be customizing the heck out of this feature, since there are tons of things I don't care about seeing on other people's feeds, and stuff I don't want on my feed as well.

edit: I'm a little confused. What exactly should be getting posted to Facebook right now? Just reviews, or other things too? Are all the different feed-things going to be able to be posted to FB? Since no one else can see our feeds yet, is that why nothing else is posting to FB yet?

Jun 22, 2011, 1:28am Top

I love it. I've been hanging in there for better Twitter sharing for ages but this goes above and beyond. Thanks Tim!

Jun 22, 2011, 1:34am Top

I love how quickly things show up on the feed page! Very snappy! I will defer other comments until I've had a chance to play with it more.

Jun 22, 2011, 1:53am Top

It would be nice to see tags when a book is added.

Edited: Jun 22, 2011, 3:08am Top

One Point: Timetags.

For newsfeed/sharing to work internationally, you really do need to get rid of the US/Eastern dates/times. Local time, please.

Jun 22, 2011, 5:25am Top

Wow, thanks! That's a great improvement. (The old "share review" functionality should be immediately retired. Instead there could be a link to the news feed after submitting the review.)

Edited: Jun 22, 2011, 8:01am Top

#20 > Well, I can confirm that I did make changes to canonical title. However, I didn't mess with anything on those books. Definitely, I didn't change any first or last words on any books. (Don't use those fields myself.)

ETA: Noticed this got moved to the bugs thread. Will move comments there.

Jun 22, 2011, 8:52am Top

How far back will this feed keep entries, btw? I don't mean the backfilling, I mean going forward. I think it'd also be a handy way to keep track of what you did and when you did it, especially for bug reports.

Not sure. I'm going to add all the data and see how onerous it is. (Pretty onerous, I'm guessing.) My thought was to preserve something like the last 100, 200 or 1000 actions.

I'm a little confused. What exactly should be getting posted to Facebook right now? Just reviews, or other things too? Are all the different feed-things going to be able to be posted to FB? Since no one else can see our feeds yet, is that why nothing else is posting to FB yet?

Everything can be posted. Click the "share" link. Nothing is posted automatically.

I love it. I've been hanging in there for better Twitter sharing for ages but this goes above and beyond. Thanks Tim!

Thank you.

It would be nice to see tags when a book is added.

Agreed. I'll get on that.

For newsfeed/sharing to work internationally, you really do need to get rid of the US/Eastern dates/times. Local time, please.

Agreed. The time has come for a global setting.

The old "share review" functionality should be immediately retired. Instead there could be a link to the news feed after submitting the review.

Agreed on the former, but I'm not sure how to handle the latter. Should the buttons remain but then they pop up the share options?

Jun 22, 2011, 8:54am Top

My thought was to preserve something like the last 100, 200 or 1000 actions.

Could you make an exception for things with comments, and keep them longer (forever)? I don't want a discussion to disappear just because it's old.

Jun 22, 2011, 8:57am Top

Right. That was a question. I think it should preserve it, but it might be weird if it preserved ONLY those. See the problem?

Jun 22, 2011, 10:51am Top

Very cool. Can I request that once you 'share' something it gets some kind of icon that shows you visually at a glance the item has been shared?

Jun 22, 2011, 11:54am Top

>58 timspalding: Yeah, but I think it's just a matter of how you present it. Make a separate section and call it "comment history" or something.

Jun 22, 2011, 12:18pm Top

When I look at one of my book reviews on the works page, I would like to know whether I have shared it with Facebook already.

Jun 22, 2011, 4:07pm Top

Can I request that once you 'share' something it gets some kind of icon that shows you visually at a glance the item has been shared?

Yes. Good. That's planned, although I'm not sure how.

Jun 22, 2011, 4:29pm Top

I still have nothing in my feed. This makes it difficult to comment on the feature.

Jun 22, 2011, 6:23pm Top

63 - Do you have any books needing combined, or editions needing separated, or CK to enter, or groups to join?

I noticed that if I join a group, it adds the info to my feed, but if I then leave the group, it just deletes that bit of info from my feed. I like that.

Edited: Jun 22, 2011, 6:42pm Top

Oh, it's good to know that they disappear if the action is undone.

I did finally manage to do something noteworthy, and posted it to Twitter.

Super minor point: I'd rather say that I started a topic in X (the group name) than on X.

Jun 22, 2011, 6:48pm Top

Oh, it's good to know that they disappear if the action is undone.
Well, I don't know if all kinds of actions do this, but at least joining/leaving a group works like that.

Edited: Jun 22, 2011, 7:39pm Top

Now you've got me thinking. I'm going to leave a group then rejoin it...

So when I left, no entry but the feed logo 'lit up' like there was a new entry!

I rejoined and that did get an entry as expected.

Jun 22, 2011, 7:42pm Top

>58 timspalding: Yeah, but I think it's just a matter of how you present it. Make a separate section and call it "comment history" or something.

Yeah. Comments, even.

but if I then leave the group, it just deletes that bit of info from my feed. I like that.

Right. All such actions work like that--delete a book, etc. Thanks for noticing my little silver details :)

Super minor point: I'd rather say that I started a topic in X (the group name) than on X.

You can, of course, change it. I went back and forth on what the default wording should be. I'm wobbly.

Now you've got me thinking. I'm going to leave a group then rejoin it...

Go crazy! :)

I'll say you joined it. The joining happened after the leaving.

Jun 22, 2011, 7:45pm Top

I am already crazy. Also I think I was editing while you were typing.

Jun 22, 2011, 7:57pm Top

You can, of course, change it. I went back and forth on what the default wording should be. I'm wobbly.

Yeah, I did change it for that one post, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

Jun 22, 2011, 9:15pm Top

56: "Everything can be posted. Click the "share" link. Nothing is posted automatically."

Have I mentioned how awesome you are lately?

I guess I'm just used to all those (annoying frustrating) sites that want to post everything automatically unless you opt-out. I can't remember the last site I used where nothing was posted automatically! This is awesome.

(I did a few work-combinations after reading this thread last night, to test out the feed. (they were all combinations that needed to be done) I loooove it)

Jun 22, 2011, 9:21pm Top

One perhaps unexpected benefit: this news feed is really useful for checking your work when you're combining and separating.

Jun 22, 2011, 10:14pm Top

#73 Easier than using the helper's log. Already used it today!

Jun 23, 2011, 3:27am Top

>72 rsterling:, 73

Not unexpected. I knew some members would think it was boring to include that. I knew some others would find it super-useful.

Edited: Jun 23, 2011, 4:17am Top


Editing Common Knowledge produces so many entries (one per field edited) that the main stuff almost disappears from the newsfeed.

Example: Adding a book, filling inn CK fields for book and author. Worst case, the newsfeed could end up showing 1 entry for adding the book followed by 40 entries stating that a CK field has been filled in. The main event, adding the book, disappears in the avalache of minute detail.

Understood that one record is generated per save action and why it must be that way, But for a newsfeed, it would be much better if the information could be aggregated.

*Edited Common Knowledge on author Random Figure
*Edited Common Knowledge on "Random Numbers in History" by Random Figure

Two entries, not 40!

Jun 23, 2011, 4:01am Top

CK 2:

Newsfeed entries for updating CK need to show which CK was updated (English, Norwegian, Japanese....)

Jun 23, 2011, 9:38am Top

#72: yeah, that will be awesomely useful!!!

Edited: Jun 23, 2011, 10:36am Top

In a couple of days I have collected 25-odd entries about single CK editing actions. I do a fair bit of this so soon I won't see the wood for the trees. How about one entry instead each 24 hours stating "abbottthomas spent some of his allotted time editing here today"?

Edited: Jun 23, 2011, 10:58am Top

I do wish that there were a combined sort of post like what we see on the LT home page- something that says added, rated, reviewed when all three are done close together so that I could make one post to Facebook rather than three separate ones.

Also I agree with Zoe about in vs to for group posting, and the rating syntax seems weird, too.

Jun 23, 2011, 11:14am Top

I have no idea what twittering is, and I detest facebook with a passion and never use it.

How are these changes going to effect me, and others like me?

Jun 23, 2011, 11:33am Top


I'll look into doing some roll-up. It does that for collection actions, for example--saying "added to X, Y" instead of "added to X," "added to Y."

Agreed on the language of CK. At least, it should say it if it's not English, that being the largest by far.

Jun 23, 2011, 12:13pm Top

>80 tomcatMurr:
See ##72-74

Jun 23, 2011, 12:20pm Top

I like that it's possible to delete entries from the feed. Just hover over the entry, and you'll see a grey x next to it. That's one way to get rid of anything that seems like clutter.

Edited: Jun 23, 2011, 12:24pm Top

tomcatMurr, you're not alone. From what I've gathered, the plan is for information from this news feed to replace what we currently have as Connection News (on your home page, or on the Connection News page linked from your profile) and possibly also to replace the current RSS feeds. With the News Feed, you'll be able to decide what items to show others when they see you in their connection news.

Jun 23, 2011, 12:30pm Top

Oh, I definitely want an option to see reviewed/rated/read together, at least on LT. It's tricky, though, because I often don't want to publish all of those to FB. Maybe our personal feed could show both individual items and composite ones (so that we could choose what to publish), but it could be rolled up when we're viewing someone else's feed on LT?

Jun 23, 2011, 2:14pm Top

#83 >

Where is this hover X you refer to? IE 6 doesn't show such a creature.
Oh, and the work link in the feed goes to a blank page... Wait, that goes to bugs...

Jun 23, 2011, 2:28pm Top

86 - I can't get a screenshot to work, but basically, if I hover the cursor/mouse over the text of one of the entries, I see a little gray x right beside the entry, on the right.

Jun 23, 2011, 4:18pm Top


Jun 23, 2011, 5:40pm Top

It's possible it's not showing on all versions of IE. It uses :hover.

Jun 23, 2011, 5:42pm Top

I have to say, I'm not a fan of invisible features. I'd rather just see it all the time.

Jun 23, 2011, 5:43pm Top

It uses :hover.

And how does that work on touchscreen devices? :)

Jun 23, 2011, 5:55pm Top

#91 - you stare at the gray x.

Jun 23, 2011, 6:23pm Top

#90 by _Zoe_> I have to say, I'm not a fan of invisible features. I'd rather just see it all the time.

Neither am I, but it's often a trade-off in both approachability and aesthetics. Certainly on devices without hover support (iPad, etc.) it should always be on. But on others, the extra approachability of having the X (and edit pencils, etc.) always there can sometimes have the opposite effect and simply overwhelm the user with so many widgets that they have a hard time figuring out which ones are of interest to them at any given time.

I think Xes on the RSS feed is more of a borderline case than edit pencils on the Home page. Of course, what might be better is an approach like how the CK pages are handled. They have grayed out pencils until you hover over them, at which point the icon becomes a colored pencil. While I think the grayed version could stand to be cranked down several notches towards more subtlety, the same could be done for the Xes. This would mean a very faint X when not hovering and a more visible one when hovering. Another example of this is the ignore X on the Talk thread list (which, again, in my opinion I think could have a more subtle gray X).

Edited: Jun 23, 2011, 6:26pm Top

#91 by DaynaRT> And how does that work on touchscreen devices? :)

Ack, I just checked and, in fact, the X is completely hidden on touchscreen devices (well, for the iPad at least). What should happen (normal practice) is that those elements should always be shown if a touchscreen device is detected. Sounds like Tim needs to spiff up the code.

Jun 23, 2011, 6:39pm Top

>93 brightcopy: In the case where there are multiple options, I can understand hiding them behind a single link, like on the Talk pages. Yes, you have to click to find out what exactly can be done, but it's clear that there's something there. I just don't want to hover all over a page to check whether there might be some feature that I'm missing.

Jun 23, 2011, 11:07pm Top

Great job! Very excited!

Jun 25, 2011, 1:23am Top

The only social site I use is LT. I don't want to be overwhelmed with MARKETERS (salespeople) and thank heaven that LT respects privacy. Thanks,Tim!

Jun 26, 2011, 9:38am Top

I hope the new feed isn't going to replace connections. Maybe added to it ? Though connections can use a lot of work - remembering where you are so you don't have to start all over again if you refresh. Allowing you to set how you want it to open, ....

Jun 29, 2011, 4:47pm Top

book covers do not always show (the default brown cover is used)
thanks for LT :)

Jun 30, 2011, 10:17am Top

Every time I do anything with a book I seem to end up with multiple messages that wouldn't interest anyone anyway, even if I were part of Facebook or Twitter. As it is whenever the brown symbol pulls my eye, I go in and delete everything. Seems to me that it would be better for everyone if I could just turn it totally off.

Edited: Jun 30, 2011, 1:02pm Top

100 - From what I understand, no one but you will ever see all of it, unless you choose to show it to them. You'll be able to customize what kinds of things or what items others can see.

Which makes me wonder: what kind of things are included in sharing? I know even if I were inclined to share/publicize my activity, there's a lot here that I wouldn't.

From what I can tell, here are some of the kinds of things that show up on the feed so far:

1. added a book to one's catalog and/or to a collection.
2. reviewed a book
3. added rating/stars to a book
4. recommended a book (added member recommendation)
5. added a picture to one's own member gallery
6. favorited an author
7. added a new friend
8. joined a group
9. started a new topic
10. added published review to a work
11. edited common knowledge for a book (that includes deleting info from a common knowledge field -- no differentiation here about adding vs. deleting)
12. combined works
13. separated works
14. added work relationship
15. edited common knowledge for an author
16. added link to author page
17. added a venue picture
18. edited venue information

There are probably more things than that. If I were inclined to share/publicize things on FB/Twitter, or if I were choosing what to include on Connection News, I would probably limit it to things related to my own books and reading: so 1-3, maybe 1-4. I can see that some members might want to highlight info about themselves like adding their own picture, or adding a favorite author (5-6): I think of that as profile stuff. Then there are the social things: adding a new friend, joining a group, or starting a topic (7-9); each of these is a bit different, but I could still imagine someone who might want to include those in the info they publish, even if I wouldn't. Published review (10) is marginal: rare enough that it might be worth singling out to share, but still verging on being a bit banal like CK.

Then, everything from 11-18 falls under something like "site maintenance." To me, it seems unlikely most people would choose to share these, unless someone just shared everything. Anyone who does much cleaning up around the site - combining, separating, fixing incorrect common knowledge -- or anyone who just likes to fill out CK, is going to have their (private) feed chock full of this stuff.

I don't mind it so much now. Sure, it's a little annoying to have my feed taken up with a bunch of combining, separating, and CK on books I don't care about or have any connection to but am only cleaning up. But I can always delete the entry, and anyway only I can see the feed now. I'm assuming there will be good filter settings once we can decide what does and doesn't go into a connection-news type feature. I am a little worried, though, about getting flooded with this stuff in connection news (or its successor) if some people just click "share everything."

Jul 6, 2011, 5:59am Top

So, I've had the chance to play around with the feed and share across sites and I'm personally chuffed to bits with it as a personal sharing-management area for my bookish interactions on the web. Admittedly, I am one of the ones who would just share everything on it publicly so privacy issues don't worry me here. There are only a few points that I've noticed that bug me a bit.

1. Currently reading collection activity and/or reading dates do nothing to the feed as far as I can see and this is the most pertinent 'sharing' I want to do. Everything else is great but if I can't easily share what I am currently reading, it lacks a certain oomph as this is the most interesting site-wide interaction I have.

2. When you add a book from 'Add Books' with collections attached, it just says you've added the books without mentioning the collection assignment. This means I have to manually remove and add again to get the collection to show up on the feed. I guess this is understandable if you don't want the feed inundated with collection assignments but it's idiosyncratic with the fact that collection assignments managed from your catalogue show in the feed. I think I notice it more because I've been using an edited version of the 'Added to the Currently Reading collection' feed entry to share my current reads and an edited version of 'Added to the 75 Book Challenge collection' feed entry to share my 'just finished' books. If there was a way to do this without working around, I'd feel this was less of an annoyance.

3. I prefer to have all my activity present in my view of my own feed (although I wouldn't object if there was a way to view it selectively, it wouldn't matter if there wasn't) but I'd really like to see selectivity in how I view others' feeds, independent of what they choose to share and for this to be easily changeable as a filterable view because sometimes I might find it useful to view all CK entries, for example, but most of the time I would like to view more selectively.

But it's just nitpicking really. I like the feed.

Jul 6, 2011, 11:18am Top

I love it as well. My only complaint is that if you add a book you don't get the right cover and I've no idea if you can fix it. You can't click on it to fix, I do know that.

Jul 6, 2011, 11:27am Top

Yeah, majkia, I think that's an old bug from another section of the code. I started reading The Pastor: A Memoir by Eugene H. Peterson and it showed the default for no cover even though I had one selected. Oddly enough, the "Recently Added" module showed the right cover. I just went and reselected my preferred cover and it appeared in the feed properly.

You might want to go to the work page and reselect your cover for it to appear right in the feed.

Jul 6, 2011, 11:37am Top

Ah, thanks Stephen. I'll do that next time.

Jul 6, 2011, 5:34pm Top

I've always found that after I add a cover, I must go back & reselect it for it to "stick" in all the right places.....

Jul 6, 2011, 5:41pm Top

If, when you first add a book, you do any editing after you have added the cover, it doesn't "stick" everywhere. If changing the cover is the very last thing you do, it's usually ok. I'm guessing that the news stream item is generated at just the wrong place in the process for the cover to stick.

Jul 6, 2011, 11:45pm Top

so, do we have an estimate as to when we will begin to see other people's news on the feed? i like this feature but i'm getting quite bored with myself...

Jul 7, 2011, 8:55am Top

Two weeks ;-)

Jul 7, 2011, 9:06am Top

I had a thought last night (it happens sometimes). I just did a bit of CK updating and then looked at my feed. It looks odd to see no book graphic beside my CK edits. I think it would be great to see the cover of the book you worked on with some sort of "CK" logo layered over the corner of the cover.

At a minimum, I think it should probably display the cover of the book worked on.

Jul 7, 2011, 11:39am Top

I can't remember whether I said this already, but I wish we had more control over how stories are combined. Right now it's just rating and review (and it seems that the combination means rating is absorbed by review, so that we can't just publish a rating story), but I'm avoiding both by publishing "Added to Recently Read" stories instead. When we get to a more standardized way of publishing Read stories I'd like to be able to choose whether to include my rating and review in the story or not.

Jul 8, 2011, 11:41pm Top

How does one edit Permanently the data that is collected on "newsfeed", I don't particularly care for this feature, it is too intrusive; `connection news` is good enough for me. The feature should be OPTIONAL!!! (if people want other data, let them SEARCH FOR AND FIND it rather than being spoonfed.)

Jul 8, 2011, 11:49pm Top

112. No one else can see this newsfeed but you right now. Once it's fully developed, and starts connecting with Connection News, you will have complete choice over whether any of the information in your newsfeed is shown to anyone else.

Edited: Jul 11, 2011, 2:03am Top

can we explore some better default language on what gets shared? some of it's ok- such as the default for books added- but the language for books added to a Collection is not good.

Added Frankenstein by Mary Shelley to "Currently Reading"
Added Frankenstein by Mary Shelley to "Currently Reading"

this just looks weird and is annoyingly repetitive.

ideally it would say something along the lines of

Currently Reading: Frankenstein by Mary Shelley
Leah added Frankenstein to "Currently Reading"

Jul 11, 2011, 5:24am Top

How soon are member uploaded covers updated to the newsfeed? It seems that there is some delay if book covers are changed that way.

Jul 11, 2011, 9:28am Top

So, would I be correct in guessing that Google+ is already on the radar for this feature?

Jul 11, 2011, 4:56pm Top

>114 leahbird:: I would just be happy if the newsfeed would say which collection a book is being added to. Right now all it says is "Added (book title) by (author). That seems really useless to me as something I would want to share, especially since many of the books I've added lately have been to my wishlist. I don't want people to look at my newsfeed and assume I have acquired the book, and I'm certainly not going to share it that way on Twitter or Facebook.

Jul 11, 2011, 5:15pm Top

#117 by rosalita> mine does show which collection things are added too, IF the collection is added separately from adding the book in Add Books.

should it list what collections things are assigned from the Add Books page? (i think it should)

Jul 11, 2011, 5:44pm Top

>118 leahbird: Ah, that would explain it, as I have been adding them all to Wishlist straight from the Add Books page. I agree that the collection should be listed in the newsfeed in those circumstances.

Jul 11, 2011, 7:22pm Top

>114 leahbird: You can edit the second line. For example, here's what I posted to facebook:

Added A Storm of Swords by George R. R. Martin to Currently reading
Currently re-reading A Storm of Swords by George R. R. Martin.

Edited: Jul 11, 2011, 9:41pm Top

#120 by lkmiller> yeah, that's what i do, but it just seems weird to me that LT would have default language that is repetitive...

i guess i'd rather the default be nothing in the second box if what is there is exactly what's above

Jul 11, 2011, 9:44pm Top

Yes, I wish the default were better, and that you could edit the whole thing.

Jul 17, 2011, 2:36am Top

FWIW, I added a basic HelpThing page on setting up Twitter integration and sharing via Twitter:
It'd be great if regular Twitter users -- I'm not; just set it up to test it out -- could look over the page and tweak/improve/edit as necessary.

(This page will need to get cross-referenced to any future HelpThing page for the sharing/feed page, when the latter is fully developed. I didn't think it was worth starting that page yet, since the whole sharing/feed feature is not finished, and since staff would ultimately be better at explaining it.)

Also, maybe someone who's on Facebook could take a crack at a similar basic instructions page for linking to & sharing on FB? I imagine the steps are pretty similar, but it would be good to get the details correct for FB. Here's a page you can use:

Sep 10, 2011, 12:42am Top

*pokes topic*

So.... 2 of the 6 major Stages of Development has been done (unless discussions have been happening that I haven't seen).

Are we going anywhere with this? Any news?

Sep 21, 2011, 12:41pm Top

have more things been added to the News Feeds? all the sudden i have a lot of new stories about changes i made to CK, but they are all things i did a while back and are just showing up now, with recent dates (such as Sept 18, when i know i didn't make any changes).

Sep 23, 2011, 2:35am Top

There is a little inconsistency in the German functionality:

If I share my rating of a book from librarything.COM, headline, comment and an additional line is added reading "Rating: 2 stars".

If I share my rating from librarything.DE, headline and comment are displayed, but the additional line has only the word "Rating: ", and the stars are missing.

Considering the overall look and feel, I'd prefer "Gave 2 stars to" instead of "2 stars to" (German translation respectively), because

a) all other shared activities start with a verb, too ("Added", "Edited")
b) the meaning of the Facebook post becomes slightly different if the verb is missing: I just shared my rating the common way, but the reader could think that I just shared some content from another site where someone (but not me) gave 2 stars to the book.

I'd like to help with the German translations, but on the common translation page I could not find the phrases for Facebook sharing. Could anyone indicate me where they are hidden?



Sep 25, 2011, 8:39pm Top

>125 leahbird:

I also had a couple Common Knowledge edits, which I vaguely remember doing months ago, pop up in my news feed in the past few days.

Perhaps they've fixed the situation when someone combines works and all the common knowledge fields get attributed to them. Maybe now it re-attributes it to the actual editor of those individual fields. I guess it showing up again in our news feeds now is the result of someone doing some combining on those works. That's my theory anyhow.

Edited: Oct 4, 2011, 1:14pm Top


Apparently, while I was eating my turkey-and-swiss-on-bagel over a book -- and nowhere near my computer, I might add -- I edited the Common Knowledge on Frommer's Northern Italy: including Venice, Milan & the Lakes.

I think I did edit those fields, but a while back, and certainly not while I was on my lunch break today.

As I said, weird.

Oct 4, 2011, 1:19pm Top

My feed tells me I often edit CK for books I've never heard of.

Oct 4, 2011, 1:29pm Top

#128, 129 >

I think this is a glitch that Tim may be looking at. I know that if anyone combines a book, the system is reattributing any CK work done on that work. I've had things appear in my feed when I was fast asleep. Thought someone hacked my account and changed my password.

Oct 4, 2011, 7:04pm Top

It's the next step in fixing the 'all CK is attributed to the last person to change anything' bug. Now when anyone changes anything, the CK is attributed to the person who actually did it. The problem is it shows up in your feed.
So, AnnaClaire, while you were on your lunch break _somebody_ did some editing on Frommer's Northern Italy...and the edits you did way back when were re-attributed to you (and not to that person who changed whatever). This is an improvement!

Oct 17, 2011, 2:13pm Top

*pokes thread*

Any idea when we will start seeing other people's feeds? Has it been "two weeks" yet?

Oct 17, 2011, 2:28pm Top

It's on Tim's list of features to finish, but I don't have a precise ETA for you.

Oct 17, 2011, 2:36pm Top

Thanks, Jeremy!

Oct 17, 2011, 3:19pm Top

132-133: Before we can see others' feeds, I hope we'll get a fix for the problem of one's CK edits being re-attributed/re-counted when someone else combines the works:


Oct 17, 2011, 3:31pm Top

>135 rsterling: - yes, me too!

Oct 17, 2011, 4:25pm Top

That may well be part of the delay.

Oct 17, 2011, 8:20pm Top

It's on Tim's list of features to finish

Would be nice if this list could be made public :)

Oct 18, 2011, 7:48am Top

It will be Zoe... In "two weeks" :>

Oct 31, 2011, 8:23am Top

If deleting things out of the News Feed, I find that the x's are all in a vertical row, until the final one, which is further to the left.

Dec 20, 2011, 6:57pm Top

Can this be paginated? It takes over a minute for my news feed page to load.

Dec 21, 2011, 3:30am Top

It takes a long time even for me, and I delete things to keep that icon pale, so I almost never have more than three or four things in it.

Jan 3, 2012, 5:15pm Top

>142 MarthaJeanne:. Didn't even know I could delete entries!

When I delete them, however, they keep showing up when I refresh the page until I end up deleting them 2 or 3 times.

Feb 15, 2012, 7:45pm Top

I keep the feed sign pale, too, buy deleting as soon as I can- I think the feature should be optional in that those that don't use it can permanently delete it, so they don't have the chronic hassle.

Feb 16, 2012, 2:47am Top

Yes, please.

Feb 23, 2012, 12:47pm Top

>144 chg1: & 145. Agreed!

Apr 6, 2012, 12:23am Top

When will this be available as a real RSS feed to use with Google Reader and other web applications? I would really like that, but it doesn't appear to be available now.

The universal RSS icon links to the feed page but with a useless (for sharing outside of LT) .PHP url. What gives?

Apr 8, 2012, 10:46am Top

You've reached the LT graveyard, where new ideas go to die after partial development.

This will probably be finished "in two weeks." (Which translates to don't expect it before two years.)

Apr 9, 2012, 5:03pm Top

(If ever.)

Apr 14, 2012, 8:37am Top

I'd rather these features never got released than have them turn out like this.

Apr 14, 2012, 9:20am Top

I believe that's the unofficial LT motto...

Apr 14, 2012, 3:47pm Top

Is there a list or wiki page for unfinished features / features in development?

Apr 14, 2012, 4:48pm Top

I started work on it once, but then I got sidetracked.

Apr 14, 2012, 5:31pm Top

153 - Is it still around? Maybe it could be a community project: features in development, with links to the latest talk posts about them, and status notes.

Apr 14, 2012, 6:20pm Top

Sorry, I should have added a smiley. ;)

Apr 19, 2012, 1:28pm Top

What's up? Is LibraryThing turning into vaporware?

My fear in recent years has been that GoodReads and other sites like that with more active development and a tighter connection to FB, Twitter, etc. would kill LT off. Is it time to jump ship? I hope not.

Apr 19, 2012, 8:54pm Top

"more active development" is not the problem. At least part of the problem is that Tim et al keep coming up with neat new ideas, develop and release the first section/version of them...and then get distracted by another Neat New thing. Also, sometimes after something is released Tim discovers that while a bunch of people want it, what they want is something very complicated that's related to what he released. And probably other reasons, too (the number of available developers, for one). But yeah, it's disconcerting when something you've been waiting for gets half-released...

Apr 23, 2012, 11:18am Top

Hi! Is anyone else getting stuff attributed to them in their newsfeed that they did not do? I see things I did today and yesterday and some things that I know I did not do; for instance, I did not add info yesterday in CK for blurbers or for original publication date for "The Carpet Makers". I find it really disconcerting to see things in my feed that I did not do. Any guesses as to what's going on with that?

Apr 23, 2012, 4:54pm Top

Have you added CK info to that work in the past? I've had further edits -- by other users, mind you -- attributed to me. It doesn't happen as much as it did, but it still happens. And as far as I'm concerned, it's a bug.

Apr 23, 2012, 4:58pm Top

Hi AnnaClaire. I just reported it as a bug, after seeing new actions attributed to me on a book I'm pretty sure I've never heard of. I suppose it's possible I contributed something to its CK years ago, but it's definitely not a book I own, and the title doesn't ring a bell.

Apr 23, 2012, 5:04pm Top

FYI for anyone following this, a link to the bug report:

rsterling has posted there explaining some the ways CK gets misattributed during combining.

Jun 26, 2012, 8:59pm Top

Really wish I could turn this feature off.

Jun 26, 2012, 9:30pm Top

What feature? Hardly anything was actually implemented.

Jun 26, 2012, 9:35pm Top

Right. If you don't care about what's there, don't look. I basically never look.

Jun 27, 2012, 2:50am Top

I find the darkened icon very distracting, so I spend a fair amount of time getting it faded again. I really, really wish I could click somewhere to say that I'm never going to use this even if it ever does get implemented. I am not on either Facebook or Twitter, and would have to become someone totally different to ever change that.

Jun 27, 2012, 6:43am Top

>165 MarthaJeanne: How long have you tried leaving it darkened? I suspect that after a while you'd stop even noticing it.

Jun 27, 2012, 10:12am Top

>165 MarthaJeanne:
I just noticed that the icon turns grey simply by clicking on the news feed and clicking away. You don't have to delete all of the items. It will darken again the next time something is added to the feed. If you don't want to see the changing icon color the best thing is to never click there.

Jun 27, 2012, 10:28am Top

#165 by MarthaJeanne> If you'd like, I could make a Stylish script that will just hide the whole thing for you. Take about five minutes. You'd just need to install Stylish (available for Chrome or Firefox) and install the script (basically just click a button on a webpage).

Edited: Jun 28, 2012, 7:32am Top

I don't want 'news feeds' to replace connection news.

Will there be a way to opt out of 'news feeds' entirely (neither see nor be seen there) without losing 'connection news'?

Jul 8, 2012, 3:56pm Top

I could care less about FB or T (or Google,etc.,etc., ...) also so as I've (and others') have requested before: Please make ENTIRELY optional

Jul 9, 2012, 2:07am Top

Please make ENTIRELY optional

Absolutely. I do have both Facebook and Twitter accounts, but I would absolutely not want everything I do here ending up there as well.

Jul 13, 2012, 12:35pm Top

Would definitely be interested in that!!

Jul 13, 2012, 3:05pm Top

Ehr, in what???

Jul 13, 2012, 3:55pm Top

Interested in whatever the entirely optional thing was, I guess.

Jul 13, 2012, 4:08pm Top

I'm interested, but only if it is 90% optional.

And a #12 with egg roll, please.

Jul 19, 2012, 2:11am Top

R:Is there a list or wiki page for unfinished features / features in development?
B:I started work on it once, but then I got sidetracked.

made me lol :)

Jul 26, 2012, 1:33pm Top

Would be interested in this: "If you'd like, I could make a Stylish script that will just hide the whole thing for you. Take about five minutes. You'd just need to install Stylish (available for Chrome or Firefox) and install the script (basically just click a button on a webpage)."

I hate how you can't really reply to stuff on these threads.

Jul 26, 2012, 1:56pm Top

177> It helps if you include the post number of the post you're responding to.

Aug 3, 2012, 12:51pm Top

178> I actually hit reply, assuming it would do that for me. I don't know what the point of reply is if it doesn't reference the post I'm replying to.

179> Many thanks!

Aug 3, 2012, 1:00pm Top

#180 by lemontwist> It has the benefit of starting your post window right below the message you are "replying" to, so you can easily refer to it while typing your own post. Otherwise you'd have to go to the very bottom every time to type your post.

Aug 3, 2012, 1:29pm Top

I'm fairly new to Facebook so I don't even know if I'm asking this in a way that makes sense...!

Anyway, here goes: as I don't write reviews here, any fb sharing that concentrates on reviews is of zero use to me.
But I'd like to be able to share what I'm reading from time to time - not every book but some of them.
Let's say that now I'm reading Game of Thrones -- is there a way for me to click something somewhere and make it say on my wall something like "Talvitar (or maybe it shows my real name on my fb wall?) is currently reading Game of Thrones" ? With maybe a book cover nicely added to that update?

Aug 3, 2012, 4:35pm Top

That's (at least theoretically) what the new news feed that this thread was started to announce is for. Go up to the top of the page; next to your name on the right is a RSS-type icon (three concentric curves). Click on it and it will show stuff you've done, including things like moving a book to Currently Reading (or adding covers, reviewing, rating, adding a book, etc etc). Under each item is a link to Share This - if you've linked your account to Facebook, you can click on that to open a lightbox that will let you post that item to FB. I don't know exactly how it works, because I don't use FB - but for Twitter (which you can also use), you can edit the tweet before it goes out.

Looking at the first post in this thread - yes, it shows the cover of the book (not sure which cover - it may be the Amazon one or the most-used one rather than your own. That's been an annoyance elsewhere).

You do need to go to your profile, Edit Profile and link your LT account to your FB one (and/or Twitter one) before this is useful. Actually, if you haven't done the linking, it will complain when you try to share an item and send you to the right spot for linking - but it seems to work better if you do it separately first, rather than through the lightbox.

Aug 4, 2012, 6:42am Top

>183 jjmcgaffey:: thanks for clarifying this! I've read some of this thread but I wasn't sure I understood everything; too new to FB to really understand what's what.
Just to be sure: even after the linking, it does let me decide what items to share? It won't start automatically showing everything I do? - 'cause I wouldn't want that.

Aug 4, 2012, 1:27pm Top

Yes. You have to go to your Feed and tell it to share an individual item. The only other place it shows up (that I've seen, anyway) is on reviews - and again, when you've written a particular review, there are checkboxes to select to share it on FB or Twitter - if you don't check a checkbox, nothing happens.

Aug 29, 2012, 12:04pm Top

Does the FB posting even work fully with Timeline? It seems that LT stories aren't showing up in my newsfeed.

Meanwhile, I just saw a nice newsfeed story from GR this morning. Sigh.

Aug 29, 2012, 3:15pm Top

>186 _Zoe_: I've seen about a dozen people commenting in the GR Feedback group in the last week or so about how the FB stuff is failing for them, so I wouldn't be too quick to compare there ;)

Sep 3, 2012, 1:32am Top


I've linked LT to my FB account. It ("LibraryThing Books") shows up nicely in the application page on my FB profile so should be ok, right?

Yesterday, I tried to share a book I'm reading from the feed. Clicked on the feed icon and then the "share this" link. All seemed to go fine, there was a box saying "shared in facebook" or something to that effect, can't remember the correct wording anymore.

However, nothing is showing in FB.

What could be the matter? Is there a bigger problem or could there be something wrong with the way I've done this? When I linked LT to FB, I did it by "edit profile" route and that too seemed to go fine at the time.

FB just made me go over to timeline (it announced that to me about a week ago and today was final date of the change) so could that affect the sharing?

Sep 3, 2012, 4:42pm Top

>188 Talvitar: I've had problems with that since timeline, too. I eventually found the things I had posted in the "recent activity" section of my timeline. But after they are too "old" for recent activity, they are just gone forever, as far as I can tell. It's a pity, because timeline would be tolerable if it could keep track of when I read books ;-)

Sep 5, 2012, 8:15am Top

>189 norabelle414:: Thanks for the tip! I've been checking my recent activity section but so far there has been nothing from me "via" LT. It doesn't seem to have "come through", so to speak. Maybe I should try again?

Does this work for anyone (with a timeline), then? Or should I post a bug report?
(though I don't know if there is something LT staff can do about this?)

Sep 5, 2012, 9:10am Top

I think I finally figured out how to get LT posts to show up on other people's newsfeeds, but it takes extra effort, initially and every time you post. I don't know how to make the changes if the posts aren't showing up on your newsfeed at all.

Sep 18, 2012, 11:47am Top

Ok, which of the LT applications works (if any)? There's the Librarything Books application but all it says on the app page is "More to come" and it really doesn't work for me, anyway. Then there's the Librarything unleashed, "the unofficial application".
Does the LT & FB connection work well with _anyone_?

Sep 18, 2012, 9:59pm Top

My LT - FB connection works, and actually has always worked. So, when I post a rview of a book, it always shows up on my Facebook page. It is not often that anyone makes a comment or even "likes" it. And having my reviws on FB does not seem to engender very much in the way of social networking. And there does not seem much, if any, interface between others who get their reviews on FB.

Sep 18, 2012, 11:11pm Top

I don't write reviews but I like the idea of generating a facebook post whenever I rate a book (or in some cases when I add one to my collection). This is supposed to be doable via the 'Share this' function on librarything's 'News Feed' page. For a while it posted activity to my 'recent Activity' box on my facebook timeline (and nothing to my feed) but even that stopped a few weeks ago.

I've found a workaround. It isn't ideal but it works so I'm sharing it for anyone frustrated by the same lack of results..

When I add or rate a book I go to the 'News Feed' page here on librarything and use the 'Share this' option. Then I go to my facebook timeline and hit the 'Activity log' link. Librarything posts appear here and are set to 'Allowed on timeline' but they don't appear. In order to make them appear I change each item to 'Highlighted on timeline', then I return to my timeline page and click the star 'Remove from highlights' button for each item, reducing them to normal sized posts which then remain visible.

Not ideal, but it works until better integration comes along.

Sep 19, 2012, 8:45am Top

>194 freelunch: Interesting. I'm doing the same thing as you, except I leave my posts "highlighted". It never occurred to me to see what "remove from highlights" would do.

Oct 18, 2012, 8:18am Top

The last messages by "miketopper" in this thread may help: http://fi.librarything.com/topic/142785
I tried sharing after following his advice and it got through to my timeline immediately :)

Oct 28, 2012, 9:55am Top

October 18th my update went to my timeline beautifully.
Today, I shared about I book I read. I saw it on my newsflow but not on my timeline
After some scrolling I found it way down, in a "joint" update with the first sharing. The text is in Finnish but basically it states the dates between which I've shared something via LTBooks. The one about Storm of swords I shared today, the one about Jälkijäristys I shared 10 days ago.

Any idea if this is how it's supposed to be, or a bug?
Why does a new "sharing" get buried way down on my timeline?

18. lokakuuta - 28. lokakuuta via LibraryThing Books

Sai juuri luettua: A storm of swords. 1 : Steel and snow (tekijä: George R.…
Tulen ja jään laulun kolmannen osan eka puolikas. Kyllä koukuttaa! Harmi vain, että vasta 5/7 osaa valmiina eli tätä lukuiloa ei pitkään kestä, kuudes osa kait valmistuu vasta parin vuoden kuluttua. Nyyhkis!

Parhaillaan lukemassa: Jälkijäristys (tekijä: Arne Dahl)
Vinkeän ruotsalaisen dekkarisarjan yhdeksäs osa. (Ja samalla ties miten mones yritys saada LibraryThing&FB-tilapäivitysyhteys toimimaan. Josko tämä kerta toimisi?)

Apr 16, 2013, 12:40pm Top


Apr 16, 2013, 8:53pm Top

OK, come to Welcome to LibraryThing! group and ask. Tell us what you want to do and we'll tell you how to do it (or how to get around not being able to do it, depending).

I suggest you don't yell, though. It makes it hard to be helpful.

Aug 3, 2013, 12:54am Top

Relatively new to Library Thing. So far, loving it. The new features, which to me are just... well... 'features' are very cool.
I'm curious about sharing libraries with others on the site. Haven't figured out how to do that with the old or new stuff yet.

Aug 3, 2013, 1:06am Top

Click on my name in the header of this message - you'll go to my profile. Look on the right and you'll see a box with Books You Share - that is, books that we both have. It's fun finding libraries that have obscure books you thought no one else had ever heard of...or just lots of your favorite books.

There's also Vous et nul autre, on your Stats/Memes page (scroll down and look at the links on the right, it's in the Memes section). That's books that you and only one other person have. Again, fun.

A third thing is related to Books you Share - at the bottom of that box is What should you borrow? That's books in my library (in the library of the person whose profile you're on) that you don't have, that you would like based on the books in your library. You'll probably get quite a few that you actually have or have read, that you haven't entered into LT yet - but the more you enter, the more likely it is that the feature will throw up a book you never heard of that you'd really like to read. Unfortunately, it's not actually for borrowing - just for telling you what someone else has that you'd like.

So none of this actually integrates your library with another person's - it's just showing you the books you both have, or would both want. That's what sharing books means, in LT-speak.

Aug 3, 2013, 7:23am Top

200, 201, I love Books You Share, and I use the settings icon to set it to sort by Popularity (low to high) so I see what obscure books I share with someone.

I also love the Members with Your Books module on my profile (and now I think it's a home page module too), because this shows what members I share a lot of books with (I set it to show weighted, not raw, data).

Finally, there's the Favorite Authors module. You can click on Shared Favorites at the bottom of that and see who shares a lot of your favorite authors.

Once you see who you share a lot of books with, you can mark that person as an Interesting Library and then you'll see that person's books added, reviews, etc. in your Connections feed. You can also see what groups they're in and see if joining any of those groups interests you.

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