"Concensus" Buddhism

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"Concensus" Buddhism

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1DeusExLibrus
Dec 23, 2011, 11:20pm

http://meaningness.wordpress.com/2011/06/07/the-crumbling-buddhist-consensus-sum...

http://meaningness.wordpress.com/2011/06/07/the-crumbling-buddhist-consensus-ove...

Thoughts?

I agree with him, to a point. I think the most damaging problematic bit is what he defines as "Nice Buddhism." The other stuff feels to me more workable, but the obsession with niceness does no one any good, and ends up keeping Buddhism stuck in the Hippy, non-violent, vegetarian stereotype. More later.

2Caco_Velho
Edited: Jan 26, 2012, 3:40pm

I had not heard the term "concensus Buddhism" until reading this posting. After following the link and reading several articles by Mr. Chapman, his concerns seemed to me to be a combinaton of "deja vue all over again" and "Don Quixote."

At this time I am seventy-four years old, and have been practicing the Dhamma/Dharma for thirty years. Mr. Chapman's statements that most American Buddhists are unaware of the basic differences between lay practice in Asia and the U.S. quite frankly gobsmacked me. This was common knowledge among American Buddhists thirty years ago, was it forgotten at some point since then? Joseph Goldstein, One Dharma, etc. etc. etc. etc????........the author seems an earnest sort, but the cumulative effect of his j'accuse comments was to create the miasma of a Concensus Buddhist Conspiracy cause.

Dogen, I believe it was, said that those who seek the Buddha outside themselves, make the Buddha into a devil. I am inclined to think the same could be said of the thing called "Buddhism."

3PeterKein
Jan 26, 2012, 5:43pm

"Dogen, I believe it was, said that those who seek the Buddha outside themselves, make the Buddha into a devil. I am inclined to think the same could be said of the thing called "Buddhism."

Well said. My impression is that the Dharma is there for those who seek it; tradition, dogma and views to grasp at or away from will also always be there for those who seek them instead or confuse them for Dharma.