One letter too early in the alphabet?

This link opens up to two R's, one superimposed over the second. Did I miss your point? Or a joke?

#2: I think the vagueness was deliberate so that he'd have plausible deniability about having compared the Romney/Ryan ticket to Nazis. But to clue you in, "one letter too early" probably refers to the SS and the RR logo he links to will give you a Romney/Ryan logo in a reverse image search result such as the one here. It's one of those stupid jokes a person might tell with the expectation that it'll go over everyone's heads and then get to have a private laugh about.

It's actually the Rolls-Royce logo. I don't know what the "one letter too early" thing is about.

~3

No "plausible deniability" at all. It is just amusing that the "Romney-Ryan ticket" would deliberately design a logo that is so close to some versions of the SS logo. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tjCD635Spt4/T15oqjrOksI/AAAAAAAAGM8/qmgbXkx03Kw/s1600/... Apparently you don't think so,

Incidentally, Paul, this IS the logo chosen by the Romney-Ryan ticket. I copied it from their website. So I guess that they must have violated Rolls Royce's trademark.

I'm sure that not more than a handful of the rest of the American public noticed, but II thought that the reference was quite clear, once mentioned, particularly in a forum where people are transfixed on another meaningless election and can talk for hours about "internet laws (prohibitions)" about not mentioning a major episode in 20th Century history.

But once again I have overestimated the logical and associationist abilities of the audience.

Mea culpa. Me think me talk in one sound words so you get it, go on from here.

Can't wait for your next revelation from on high, l_wecon!

Me think me talk in one sound words so you get it, go on from here.

Did you intend to say that you would endeavor to use only one-syllable words? I'm glad you're enjoying yourself on the internet. If you need help hunting down more conspiracy interesting and no doubt extremely meaningful theories online, I'm sure we could all help you find some web-sites. We'll work on writing in a clear and concise fashion later.

According to Google, the Romney/Ryan logo is this:


Some people are apparently using the Rolls one as a joke.

~6

I'll pass it on when it comes down. But to be in the crowd of recipients you have to throw gold sovereigns.

~7

Ugh, con-spir-acy. Me hear of conspiracy. Bad thing. Me no want.

~4

I can understand the confusion. What is the Bentley logo?

lawecon I love how you make a post that's basically "republicans r nazis lol" and then work up indignation at the fools who don't understand your genius. How do you do it?

It is actually rather easy. It is even easier when I am addressing people who can't read and who want to find their own thoughts in what I say.

For instance, I never above said or implied that Republican = Nazi (although, starting with Bush II and going on through McCain and his very fascistic buddies in the House and Senate there is some evidence for such a thesis).

What I in fact pointed to was that the Presidential and Vice-Presidential Republican candidates had adopted a logo that bore more than a superficial resemblance to the SS emblem. You, of course, can draw your own conclusions about what they meant by such an adoption. It is, however, somewhat telling that you are so quick to jump to the conclusion that Republican = Nazi, but, hey, I don't pretend to know what goes on in your head.

Now it has since been pointed out above that the "official" emblem looks much more stylized, and the version I was pointing to is really the Rolls-Royce emblem. OK, maybe I have been misled, but at least I don't whine on about imaginary plots to defame my heroes - unlike some people who might be mentioned.

Yeah, all the stylized lightening bolt looking esses I ever drew look exactly like the stylized 'R' of Romney-Ryan.

The logo on my Bentley is a 'B' with wings. It looks a lot like my pilot wings.

Since its open mike night at the Non-Sequitur Improv I'd like to add that I think it was Rolls-Royce that built the engines for most of the planes that won the Battle of Britain.

Well there is a good use of time.

"The Republican symbol looks like an SS symbol. What, you think I am calling them nazis? That just shows how stupid you are!"

The Hawker Hurricane, the workhorse of the RAF during the Battle of Britain, was powered by the Rolls Royce PV-12 Merlin engine. The other primary British single-seat fighter of the Battle of Britain was the Supermarine Spitfire powered by the same engine. The Spitfire was faster and more aerodynamically sound than the Hurricane.

The Lancaster bomber was also powered by Merlin engines, in that case four of them.

I don't think the RR logo was on the merlin though.
It was obviously on the radiator of the cars.
But that logo in the link from #1 is blue.
The original car badge was red. Later changed to black.
So that link is a bit of a muddle.

On the subject of cars and SS:
The Jaguar SS100 was a British 2-seat sports car built between 1936 and 1940.
The manufacturers were SS Cars of Coventry, England.
Because of the nazi SS connotations, the company changed their name to Jaguar in 1945.

~16

This is what is called: trying too hard not to get it. If you want to do that in public, fine with me. Never try it in front of a judge, however, or he'll just conclude that you are stupid and rule against your client.

Oh I thought the logo was because Romney was sponsored by Crest toothpaste.

21> I don't even know what you mean by that, but then if you've run out of intelligent responses a good strategy is to throw out some bull, eh?

>23 jjwilson61:

l_wecon is da judge. Self-appointed, yes...but who asked you? Who are we to question?

Nazism averted!

~24

Feeling OK, you seem to be babbling.

You know, I am becoming convinced by the reactions in this thread that many of you are just not that bright.

Let's see: I point out that THE ROMNEY-RYAN TEAM HAS CHOSEN an emblem that is much like the SS emblem. I have therefore accused the Romney-Ryan team of being Nazis.

Say what? Are you guys really this stupid and unable to make such elementary logical distinctions?

Apparently you are........

I would think that the conclusions you might come to are:
(1) The Romney Ryan team is woefully ignorant of history or, (less likely) but still logically possible,
(2) They realized the resemblance and liked it due to Rightest and Macho tendencies.

But they clearly are not Nazis. The Nazis were competent about what they did and didn't continually trip over their own tongues.

I'm pretty sure this thread cannot grow any more pointless or boring.

Helpful hint: if you have to explain a joke, it wasn't very funny in the first place.

LE is the Donald Trump of Librarything.

~29

I'll keep that in mind Bruce. But you should keep in mind that there is a difference between a joke and a question. Unless you consider the question "Why would candidates for top office in the US choose an emblem that looked like that of the SS?" to be funny.

>31 lawecon:

But l_wecon, by your own description in post >5 lawecon:, your reason for the OP was that it was "just amusing."

~32

Yes, actions that are so stupid that they are absurd are amusing. Take, as instances, adopting an emblem that resembles the emblem of one of most of the hated groups in recent history, or this post I'm responding to, which is trying so hard to find something to fault that it is absurd.......

If the audience is faulty, perhaps the performer should seek out a more appreciative, intelligent, sophisticated audience?

~34

Yes, I see your point.

What is the earliest meaning for the SS symbol ?

>37 by @vy0123, Erm, the Nazi usage is the "earliest meaning" for the Nazi symbol... But if you are asking where it came from, it's based off (a double-printed letter of) a rune.

~38 Thanks.

I'm not too fussed about the Nazi usage, they also used a flipped Buddhist symbol.

I suspect the SS symbol goes way back and has religious meaning.

It'd be nice to see something from an open access digital manuscript repository.

You can suspect all you like, doesn't make it true. Since you don't seem to want to visit that link, I will paste it right here for you:
"The sig rune (or Siegrune) symbolised victory (sieg). In its original form as the ᛋ-rune of the Younger Futhark, it represented the sun; however, von List reinterpreted it as a victory sign when he compiled his list of "Armanen runes".

It was adapted into the emblem of the SS in 1933 by Walter Heck, an SS Sturmhauptführer who worked as a graphic designer for Ferdinand Hoffstatter, a producer of emblems and insignia in Bonn. Heck's simple but striking device consisted of two sig runes drawn side by side like lightning bolts, and was soon adopted by all branches of the SS – though Heck himself received only a token payment of 2.5 Reichsmarks for his work. The device had a double meaning; as well as standing for the initials of the SS, it could be read as a rallying cry of "Victory, Victory!". The symbol became so ubiquitous that it was frequently typeset using runes rather than letters; during the Nazi period, an extra key was added to German typewriters to enable them to type the double-sig logo with a single keystroke.

~41 Seriously. I am not interested in the Nazis.

I want to know if scribes ever copied it from
manuscript to manuscript and what it meant.

Let's say the year is 1812. And, I ask #37.

#42: The Wikipedia link he gave you provides those answers and I can tell you first hand it won't give you any Nazi cooties. But personally I still don't see how lawecon got that from looking at a Rolls Royce logo. Those Rs aren't even remotely topologically similiar. What I do find distressing is the similarity of the SS logo to the logo of the rock band KISS. And they even dress up like a bunch of kabuki-style samurai! Now, I'm not saying that the bandmembers necessarily have any Axis sympathies. I would just say that it's "curious" and then follow that up with a suggestive dot. dot. dot.

And what the fuck is the deal with the red flags on #5? I know there's a fuzzy line between posting spam and posting retarded shit, but there's still a line. Red flags are not meant to be used as one's personal "Harrumph! Me no likey!" stamp.

>43 by @Lunar, Actually that same article mentions how KISS changed their logo for performing in Germany because they didn't want people associating their stylized Ss with the SS symbol.

>43 Lunar: Red flags are not meant to be used as one's personal "Harrumph! Me no likey!" stamp.

In that case always counter-flag those uses.

>42 by @vy0123, Seriously, did you read what I posted?? It was a rune (sig, or Siegrune), that represented the sun, and there was only one of it not two.

~46 Yes. I did read your post. I also looked at the wikipedia page contrary to your assumption.