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I'm thinking of a word that rhymes with "orient"

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1rodneyvc
Jan 2, 2013, 7:51 pm

After all that whirling, I need to return to that previous state!

2rolandperkins
Edited: Jan 2, 2013, 8:13 pm

"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to __ __ __ __ __ Her." --attrib. to Voltaire*

* I've seen/heard this quoted only in English. I don't know if the main verb is "faudrait" or "aurait fallu ".
I'm assuming that the French pronoun of which the antecedent is "God" would be "L' ", which could mean "Him", "Her, or "It", when followed by an infinitive
("inventer"); if it had been a past participle, then the gender would have to have been revealed.

3louminus
Jan 2, 2013, 8:11 pm

I think I'll sleep on it.

4rodneyvc
Jan 2, 2013, 8:39 pm

#2 Wikipedia (I'll claim no smarts here) says "Si Dieu n'existait pas, il faudrait l'inventer". Mais ce n'est pas «invent».

#3 To sleep, perchance to dream?

Not: invent, somnolent

Alpha not: invent, somnolent

5bookblotter
Jan 2, 2013, 10:24 pm

It just ticks me off when I don't win, for example, when burnish is history.

6rodneyvc
Jan 2, 2013, 10:55 pm

#5 My best guess is that you might be incandescent at the interment of 'burnish'? If not, try me again.

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment

Alpha not: incandescent, interment, invent, somnolent

// Crambo's rhyme includes the diphthong of 'orient' - can you have a semi-syllable?

7bookblotter
Edited: Jan 2, 2013, 11:07 pm

#5 I really get irked when I'm in the same sentence with "interment!" It makes me crabby and huffy. Same ending, but slightly different spelling, as the last sleepy "alpha not" above.

8rodneyvc
Jan 2, 2013, 11:16 pm

#7 I always imagine that someone being petulant has their mouth pouting, like a partly opened tulip, maybe?

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant

Alpha not: incandescent, interment, invent, petulant, somnolent

9oldstick
Jan 3, 2013, 9:48 am

We must not indulge in lewd ideas.

10rodneyvc
Jan 3, 2013, 3:43 pm

#9 I don't think that Crambo has a dark side!

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient

Alpha not: incandescent, interment, invent, petulant, prurient, somnolent

11rolandperkins
Jan 3, 2013, 4:25 pm

Thanks for the Wikipedia corroboration of what

I thought Voltaire's Frenchwould be, rodney.

12bookblotter
Jan 3, 2013, 6:11 pm

#9 Maybe not, but in order to further the next generation, perhaps we all need a fabrication of racy imagination.

13rodneyvc
Jan 3, 2013, 7:08 pm

#12 I'm not sure how racy I'm prepared to imagine, or to admit to, but I'm sucking mud on that one!

14bookblotter
Edited: Jan 3, 2013, 8:19 pm

#12 & #13 Sucking mud must be Australian slang, I've not heard it before. Do they have fig newtons, a cookie, down under? Or, to approach it another way, a _ _ _ _ _ _ _ of your imagination.

I would have to guess that it isn't Crambo or you would have come up with it right away.

15rodneyvc
Jan 3, 2013, 8:49 pm

#14 We don't have fig newtons - the Arnott's Spicy Fruit Roll (which is more pillow-shaped than a roll) is possibly the closest you'll get. Cookies are better known as biscuits, and what you may know as a biscuit, I think, are called scones. My vague recollection is "sucking mud" was a Star Trek reference - “Shut her down Scotty, she's sucking mud again!” which may have been popularised in a computer error message, but was possibly originally a navy term. Then again, as you suggest, it could all have been a figment of my imagination.

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment

Alpha not: figment, incandescent, interment, invent, petulant, prurient, somnolent

// Crambo's word is an adjective

16louminus
Edited: Jan 3, 2013, 9:39 pm

Reading this heated exchange makes me roll my eyes and look heavenward.

17bookblotter
Jan 3, 2013, 9:03 pm

#15 I have an international head ache now; cookies vs biscuits vs scones. I knew some of that but it didn't rise to the front of my thoughts. Also, I'm the only living American with zero knowledge of Star Trek. Had I Star Trek learning, I would have known the reference in an infinitesimal time period.

18louminus
Jan 3, 2013, 9:41 pm

Or should I be satisfied with a straightforward guess?

19rodneyvc
Jan 3, 2013, 10:26 pm

#16 IT IS NOT AN ARGUMENT! Apologies for shouting and being belligerent :-) It's not firmament or pavement.

#17 Nothing good is instant.

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant

Alpha not: argument, belligerent, figment, firmament, incandescent, instant, interment, invent, pavement, petulant, prurient, somnolent

20rodneyvc
Jan 3, 2013, 10:34 pm

#16 You snuck an edit in on me there louminus, but I think I guessed what you meant!
#18 The Oxford dictionary says that Crambo's word is 'literary'.

21rolandperkins
Edited: Jan 4, 2013, 1:53 am

Andy Capp* (upon seeing an approaching rent agent): __ __ __ __ __ !!

Agent: I haven't even asked yer yet?! At least give me a chance to ask!

Andy: Then ask!

Agent: RENT!

ANdy: __ __ __ __ __!!!

(Agent withdraws, muttering):
That's better. There's a right and a wrong way of doing things!

*British ne'er-do=well in a long=playing
comic strip series

22rodneyvc
Jan 4, 2013, 2:29 am

#21 Andy appears in antipodean newspapers, but alas not those of record! Knowing his proclivities, it is most likely that the rent is already spent!

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant, spent

Alpha not: argument, belligerent, figment, firmament, incandescent, instant, interment, invent, pavement, petulant, prurient, somnolent, spent

23bookblotter
Edited: Jan 4, 2013, 4:58 pm

3 1/2 X 2, with two leading zeros, is working for the Crown in some capacity, is he not?

24rodneyvc
Jan 4, 2013, 5:13 pm

#23 Is he a gent, or an agent? I don't think so.

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant, spent, gent, agent

Alpha not: agent, argument, belligerent, figment, firmament, gent, incandescent, instant, interment, invent, pavement, petulant, prurient, somnolent, spent

25louminus
Jan 4, 2013, 7:10 pm

#18 was a guess.

26rodneyvc
Jan 4, 2013, 9:37 pm

#25 Thanks for not being content with my lack of perception, Lou. I didn't mean to ignore you.

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant, spent, gent, agent, content

Alpha not: agent, argument, belligerent, content, figment, firmament, gent, incandescent, instant, interment, invent, pavement, petulant, prurient, somnolent, spent

27oldstick
Jan 5, 2013, 9:01 am

I wonder if I can soften you up with a question? What's this with Not and Alpha not? It is all too hard for me. All I have is some cream.

28rodneyvc
Jan 5, 2013, 3:07 pm

#27 The "Alpha not" is the list of unsuccessful guesses in alphabetical order to make it easier to spot if a word you are thinking of suggesting has already been suggested. I use the "Not" list for excluded words in chronological order for people to see what I though the word was that they were proposing - sometimes I get it wrong. I'm not going to relent - apply the ointment and if numbness persists consult a practitioner.

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant, spent, gent, agent, content, relent, ointment

Alpha not: agent, argument, belligerent, content, figment, firmament, gent, incandescent, instant, interment, invent, ointment, pavement, petulant, prurient, relent, somnolent, spent

// I normally avoid having the rhymed word spelled the same way as the answer, but in this case Crambo's word actually ends in 'ient'.

29IWantToBelieve
Jan 5, 2013, 4:32 pm

Rocks don't hear you or see you or think about you. Nothing.

30bookblotter
Jan 5, 2013, 4:47 pm

I'm a little more perceptive than the rock at #29; not much though...

31rolandperkins
Edited: Jan 5, 2013, 6:28 pm

Author Peter Morville finds
"findability" to be one of those things that can be called
"__ __ __ __ __ __ __".
Other such things, I'm informed by Touchstones,
are "Sound (as in music) Eras",
and Television.
I'm not sure that the above helps much in guessing the guess, but I don't have access to a dictionary right now. And, like the Supreme Court Justice's view of
pornogrraphjy, I can't define
"__ __ __ __ __ __", but I know it when I see it. It's an adjective meaning, well, -- you know (or do You?) -- sort of
"all around", "environmental"
(loosely speaking).

32louminus
Jan 5, 2013, 8:18 pm

Yes, a dictionary is often good to have at hand. (BTW, that is a guess, not just a comment.)

33rodneyvc
Jan 5, 2013, 8:39 pm

#29 I suspect you may be on the right track, but I'm not sure about the geological part. I've given the game away too early before - more clue please.
#30 You're being modest, Munn. There's plenty of evidence that you are sentient!

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant, spent, gent, agent, content, relent, ointment, sentient

Alpha not: agent, argument, belligerent, content, figment, firmament, gent, incandescent, instant, interment, invent, ointment, pavement, petulant, prurient, relent, sentient, somnolent, spent

34rodneyvc
Edited: Jan 5, 2013, 8:51 pm

#31 I know of someone with the same family name as mine who creates this type of music.
#32 I find that having the Concise Oxford at my right had convenient when trying to randomly pick an interesting Crambo word (though in this case I browsed online as I was away from my cave).

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant, spent, gent, agent, content, relent, ointment, sentient, ambient, convenient

Alpha not: agent, ambient, argument, belligerent, content, convenient, figment, firmament, gent, incandescent, instant, interment, invent, ointment, pavement, petulant, prurient, relent, sentient, somnolent, spent

35bookblotter
Jan 5, 2013, 10:03 pm

Rod, thanks for the vote of confidence on my sentient state. Now, if I weren't, as the expression goes, "older than dirt."

36rodneyvc
Jan 5, 2013, 11:55 pm

#35 I don't think you are that ancient either.

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant, spent, gent, agent, content, relent, ointment, sentient, ambient, convenient, ancient

Alpha not: agent, ambient, ancient, argument, belligerent, content, convenient, figment, firmament, gent, incandescent, instant, interment, invent, ointment, pavement, petulant, prurient, relent, sentient, somnolent, spent

37oldstick
Jan 6, 2013, 6:18 am

My cream wasn't a mere ointment. You said the word was'literary' so I found a more complicated one, but it can't be right or you would have spotted it. (it began with'e')
Am I dealing with an expert?

38rodneyvc
Jan 6, 2013, 3:59 pm

#37 I most be going soft in my old age, but it's not because of the use of emollients! I fear that you think me less than proficient!

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant, spent, gent, agent, content, relent, ointment, sentient, ambient, convenient, ancient, emollient, proficient

Alpha not: agent, ambient, ancient, argument, belligerent, content, convenient, emollient, figment, firmament, gent, incandescent, instant, interment, invent, ointment, pavement, petulant, proficient, prurient, relent, sentient, somnolent, spent

39bookblotter
Jan 6, 2013, 9:19 pm

People that stay in homeless shelters could be regarded as _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ (s). They could also be regarded as customers of the organization. A two-fer in two sentences.

40rodneyvc
Jan 6, 2013, 9:57 pm

#39 All of us are just passing through! Transient clients of this small blue ball. But not Crambo!

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant, spent, gent, agent, content, relent, ointment, sentient, ambient, convenient, ancient, emollient, proficient, transient, client

Alpha not: agent, ambient, ancient, argument, belligerent, client, content, convenient, emollient, figment, firmament, gent, incandescent, instant, interment, invent, ointment, pavement, petulant, proficient, prurient, relent, sentient, somnolent, spent, transient

41IWantToBelieve
Jan 7, 2013, 2:47 pm

We perceive together, all of us.

42rodneyvc
Jan 7, 2013, 4:47 pm

#41 Is this the same word as you were suggesting in #29? When Crambo's word is guessed we will all be conscient!

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant, spent, gent, agent, content, relent, ointment, sentient, ambient, convenient, ancient, emollient, proficient, transient, client, conscient

Alpha not: agent, ambient, ancient, argument, belligerent, client, conscient, content, convenient, emollient, figment, firmament, gent, incandescent, instant, interment, invent, ointment, pavement, petulant, proficient, prurient, relent, sentient, somnolent, spent, transient

// IWantToBelieve - tell me the ethnicity mentioned in the online Oxford Dictionary for the illustrative quote for #29

43IWantToBelieve
Jan 7, 2013, 9:29 pm

//Rodney--#41 is a different but similar word to #29.
If I'm understanding your question at #42, the origin is Latin.

44rodneyvc
Jan 7, 2013, 9:45 pm

#43 I think you are very close. But it isn't insentient, nonsentient, or inscient.

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant, spent, gent, agent, content, relent, ointment, sentient, ambient, convenient, ancient, emollient, proficient, transient, client, conscient, insentient, nonsentient, inscient.

Alpha not: agent, ambient, ancient, argument, belligerent, client, conscient, content, convenient, emollient, figment, firmament, gent, incandescent, inscient, insentient, instant, interment, invent, nonsentient, ointment, pavement, petulant, proficient, prurient, relent, sentient, somnolent, spent, transient

45bookblotter
Edited: Jan 8, 2013, 4:28 pm

Rod bucked me up in #33 after my comment in #30, I have my confidence back and find that I am, after all, a knowing and skillful person.

So, who knew? (Extraneous comment)

46rolandperkins
Jan 8, 2013, 4:32 pm

__ __ __ __ __ __ __ __:

Not only rhymes, but is the opp-
-osite of "Orient"? If not, hop
To the next player's guess
(This one was wild, I confess.)

47rodneyvc
Jan 8, 2013, 6:24 pm

#45 We've already had proficient, so maybe you're efficient.
#46 I think that you've occidentally got the wrong word :-)

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant, spent, gent, agent, content, relent, ointment, sentient, ambient, convenient, ancient, emollient, proficient, transient, client, conscient, insentient, nonsentient, inscient, efficient, occident

Alpha not: agent, ambient, ancient, argument, belligerent, client, conscient, content, convenient, efficient, emollient, figment, firmament, gent, incandescent, inscient, insentient, instant, interment, invent, nonsentient, occident, ointment, pavement, petulant, proficient, prurient, relent, sentient, somnolent, spent, transient

48bookblotter
Jan 8, 2013, 8:42 pm

#47 Scratch the efficiency. But, I did take the three words with prefixes in #44 and got rid of the prefixes which left one word stated positively as unsaid in alpha not. The other two, of course, have the same root word. And, they all are words ending with "ient." Their relationship to "literary" escapes me totally.

Evidently, Rod, you need to give us more directly helpful clues; say, the first three letters of Crambo. :)

49rodneyvc
Jan 8, 2013, 9:17 pm

#48 Its not scient, and that is both a response and a clue. If I gave you the first three letters then there would be nothing left!

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant, spent, gent, agent, content, relent, ointment, sentient, ambient, convenient, ancient, emollient, proficient, transient, client, conscient, insentient, nonsentient, inscient, efficient, occident, scient

Alpha not: agent, ambient, ancient, argument, belligerent, client, conscient, content, convenient, efficient, emollient, figment, firmament, gent, incandescent, inscient, insentient, instant, interment, invent, nonsentient, occident, ointment, pavement, petulant, proficient, prurient, relent, scient, sentient, somnolent, spent, transient

50bookblotter
Jan 8, 2013, 11:39 pm

"...then there would be nothing left!" Heh, heh, heh. Below assumes that you're kidding or not being literal on there being 7 letters in Crambo (3 plus "ient").

Not proper or suitable or advisable. Or, to state differently, foolish or rash.

51rodneyvc
Jan 9, 2013, 1:12 am

#50 I exaggerated by a single letter! I'm a little deficient as to the word you are proposing!

Not: invent, somnolent, incandescent, interment, petulant, prurient, figment, argument, belligerent, firmament, pavement, instant, spent, gent, agent, content, relent, ointment, sentient, ambient, convenient, ancient, emollient, proficient, transient, client, conscient, insentient, nonsentient, inscient, efficient, occident, scient, deficient

Alpha not: agent, ambient, ancient, argument, belligerent, client, conscient, content, convenient, deficient, efficient, emollient, figment, firmament, gent, incandescent, inscient, insentient, instant, interment, invent, nonsentient, occident, ointment, pavement, petulant, proficient, prurient, relent, scient, sentient, somnolent, spent, transient

52rolandperkins
Jan 9, 2013, 2:41 am

We've had the affirmative: __ __ __ __ __ __ guessed;
Why not have, along with the rest,
Its negative: __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ throw its hat in,
(though with this I don't really expect to win.)
Heck, the word's a near syn-
-onym of "ignorant"; I won't yell "Gin!"
Or expect you to yell "Tou-
che'!" on this; it's not quite that new.

53rodneyvc
Jan 9, 2013, 3:02 am

#52 Touché Roland! Crambo's word is indeed nescient, which the Oxford defines as "lacking knowledge; ignorant" and gives as an example of its use "I ventured into the new Korean restaurant with some equally nescient companions".

I thought that this was very appropriate for Crambo as we are (almost) all nescient until the answer is revealed or guessed, and then we become ignorant again! Well done!

54bookblotter
Jan 9, 2013, 8:03 am

#50 For the curious; "inexpedient."

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