Hymnal indices


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Hymnal indices

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1robhutten First Message
Sep 5, 2006, 9:58pm

I'm interested in indexing my small collection of hymnals and psalters. For now I'm thinking along the lines of a simple searchable web-based interface of titles and basic info.

Anyone else interested in contributing (data and/or coding) to such a project?

Sep 6, 2006, 12:14pm

What information are you hoping to collect?
About 20 years ago I started to produce a card index listing First Line, Author, Hymnbook, number in book, tune, and composer. But it was very time consuming and I abandoned the attempt.

Sep 6, 2006, 6:17pm

This could be really useful! As an example, the most recent hymnal published by my church, the Unitarian Universalists, made the huge mistake of changing the titles of ALL the hymns to be the same as the first line, effectively eliminating a title index. I've meant for years now to create an actual title index for the hymnal, Singing the Living Tradition, but haven't gotten around to it. To have it be part of a larger project like the one you propose makes it more interesting to me.

Sep 6, 2006, 8:40pm

Ringman - I think the fields you used in your card index would be a good start.

Ideally, books in the db would link back to LibraryThing, but I'm not yet up-to-speed on their APIs. Don't suppose any of you folks are also programmers? :-)

I have some web/db skills, but I'm no guru. You can see a fledgling effort to index my 78s & lps on my homepage at http://www.hutten.org/rob

Sep 7, 2006, 7:21am

I tried scanning indexes from some of by older hymnals last night. Unfortunately the print was very small and I could not get sufficient quality for OCR software.

Sep 7, 2006, 11:31am

I'd prefer to put the information directly into LibraryThing, cause then it could be shared with a greater audience.

One of the suggestions that I've made in the Site Improvements group is that we can record references for a work. Song indexes would be similar: that could be an LT improvement.

On another note, I am trying to work out the year of a tiny leather-bound copy of 'Hymns Ancient and Modern: for use in the services of the church'. It's labelled the Complete Edition and was published by William Clowes and Sons, Charling Cross. Can anyone help?

Oct 4, 2006, 8:18am

Amanda - I'm intrigued by the idea of holding the info in LT. Have you had any feedback from Tim?

As for your question re Hymns Ancient and Modern for Use in the Services of the Church With Accompanying Tunes - I have it dated as 1901 but with a question mark... meaning I probably stole the date from an online listing somewhere. I'll dig out my copy and check.

May 5, 2007, 2:36pm

I think cyberhymnal.org indexes hymnals pretty well.

Jan 20, 2015, 3:59pm

The best online index to hymns is probably hymnary.org,
hosted by Calvin College.

As for Hymns A&M, I believe that 'complete edition' refers to the reissue
of Monk's edition of 1875, bound with the 'first supplement'
by Charles Steggall (1889), issued together from 1906
to 1916 as 'the complete edition' (or 'old complete
edition), so-called to distinguish it from the unpopular
'New and Revised Edition' of 1904. The second supplement
by Sydney Nicholson appeared in 1916, and the complete
hymnal reissued and re-edited in 1922 (including both
supplements) as 'the standard edition.' I think.

If so, your 'complete edition' presumably dates between
1906 and 1916; if it contains both supplements, then
maybe 1916 (-1922?).