Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #73

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1jasbro
May 22, 2016, 8:23 pm

THIS THREAD is for LibraryThing Members, and especially for “beginners,” to ask help and learn about combining and separating specific LibraryThing Works.
-- If a book is combined with other, very different books.
-- If a book won’t combine with others just like it.
-- If problems with any Work are overwhelming, or maybe you just don’t have time.

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WHEN YOU POST:
-- Please give Titles, Authors, hyperlinks, and other information that will help.
-- If you post multiple requests at once, please number each group. Examples:

“Please combine:
#1: The Story of the Life of You
http://www.librarything.com/work/AAAAAAAA
http://www.librarything.com/work/BBBBBBBB
#2: The Story of the Life of Everyone Else
http://www.librarything.com/work/XXXXXXXX
http://www.librarything.com/work/YYYYYYYY
http://www.librarything.com/work/ZZZZZZZZ


-- Ask about sets of Works or Series pages, ask for opinions, or ask for help with specific languages, subjects, etc.; but please be brief.
-- Please do not give Search pages, Author pages, or groups of “possibles,” unless you have a specific question.
-- “Someone will be with you shortly.” Most requests are handled by our fellow LibraryThing Members, not by staff.
-- If you add to a post, please use “ETA:” or “EDIT:” to show what’s new.
-- Please note when a request is “DONE.”

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NOTES:
-- If two works have more than 200 records each, LibraryThing staff may need to do the combining. Please post these requests to: http://www.librarything.com/topic/95602 .
-- For information and discussion, but not problems, please see the Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread: http://www.librarything.com/topic/57164 .
-- For the related wiki page, please see: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining .
-- Please note Tim’s Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for Contacting Members about Book Records at http://www.librarything.com/topic/30795#469616 ; if you contact another Member, please use Private Comment.
-- When this thread reaches 200 posts, please do not post here but start a new Thread. Threads under 200 posts load faster and are easier to navigate. Please copy these notes as post #1 of the new thread. Thank you.

2davidgn
Edited: May 22, 2016, 8:35 pm

>201 Collectorator: jasbro, I already did that. The question relates to the (empty) author pages. The goal is that new listings that have both authors smushed into a single author field will all (we can hope) land in the same bucket of author records, instead of in three separate buckets (as now) or nine separate buckets (as it was before I started). It's a niggling point, but it's something I don't understand, so that's why I asked it.

ETA: In doing this at all, I've been following best practice as I've understood it from observation. But since I've now run into a sticky spot, it's time to consult the experts. :-)

3jasbro
May 22, 2016, 8:39 pm

>2 davidgn: I see now what you've done -- and thanks for it. This shows a higher level of commitment and expertise on your part than I've ever dared take on!

4davidgn
Edited: May 22, 2016, 10:02 pm

Commitment, perhaps. Expertise? Maybe at some point. I've got a lot to learn still, but I figure that as long as my learning curve is providing a net benefit to the catalog, it's all to the good. Critiques are welcome and sought.

5omargosh
May 22, 2016, 11:25 pm

@davidgn, I took a look. In this case there was an author page ID (rockwellannefrockwel) that for some reason (I don't know why, but I occasionally come across such cases, sometimes related to canonical names, although that's not the case here) was displaying as "Anne Rockwell", despite the fact that the author ID would suggest otherwise, and indeed the only work there is by "Rockwell, Anne F.; Rockwell, Harlow". I've separated out that page and recalculated it, so now that page displays as "Anne F.; Rockwell Rockwell, Harlow".

This is why I never trust author search results. They frequently appear to represent something slightly different from what they appear to represent, or a particular ID only sometimes represents what it purports to in the search results. (This is often the case of authors that have parentheses in them.) So it's a good idea to always look at any author page before combining. This is how I avoid the kind of fun surprises you came across.

tl;dr Author search results are deceptive; always look at the page before combining it.

6Collectorator
May 23, 2016, 2:27 am

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7JerryMmm
May 23, 2016, 3:42 am

>6 Collectorator: really? As there are 2 rockwells in the url as well it suggests to me the couple rather than the individual.

8Collectorator
Edited: May 23, 2016, 4:13 am

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9davidgn
May 23, 2016, 4:21 am

*mind blown*

10davidgn
May 23, 2016, 4:34 am

>8 Collectorator: Did I just get initiated into the inner esoteric circle or something? Because that's what this feels like. I don't remember reading that anywhere before, ever. :-0

11Collectorator
May 23, 2016, 4:38 am

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12Collectorator
May 23, 2016, 4:48 am

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13omargosh
May 23, 2016, 9:25 am

>11 Collectorator:
It wouldn't be the only way if Tim would just remove the @#$%& 20-character limit for author URLs. :-)

>7 JerryMmm:
I'd say that, yes, that would be a decent educated guess in this case, and in lots of cases it's probably fine, but Collectorator's examples in >12 Collectorator: show where things are definitely untenable. In a case like rockwellannerockwell, it's possible, after all, that it could be something cataloged like "Rockwell, Anne; Rockwell), (Anne F." or some other such nonsense (not likely here, but I've seen worse). This is one of the reasons I usually don't even bother with combining multiple-name "authors".

14jjwilson61
May 23, 2016, 9:59 am

>6 Collectorator: Those aren't single author url's. They're more like one and a half author urls.

15jasbro
May 23, 2016, 11:00 am

>12 Collectorator: Seems the best to do with those is to leave them be ... or is it helpful to combine the multiple, ratty multiple-Author records into a single, ratty multiple-Author record, with zero books attributed? (Or, more precisely, with all books correctly re-attributed to the respective single-Author pages for primary and main Authors ... ) Thanks!

16davidgn
May 23, 2016, 11:43 am

>12 Collectorator: Right. Well, now I get it. Probably would have figured it out for myself after a few more days/weeks of puttering -- looks like my "pet theory" of a URL parsing issue was a step in the right direction. Thanks for the push over the cliff-edge. :-)
>13 omargosh: Yeah. What's with that limit, anyhow?

17Taphophile13
May 23, 2016, 11:51 am

Wasn't something said recently about zero copy authors disappearing? I think it would solve some of these problems.

18omargosh
May 23, 2016, 12:33 pm

>15 jasbro: Maybe it will make people feel extra lonely / more inclined to change their catalog records if they see that everybody else has their works elsewhere, even when all the multi-name ratties are combined? :-)

>16 davidgn: I'm not sure why the limit. IIRC, jjwilson61 once theorized that it might have something to do with database performance, but AFAIK Tim has been silent on the issue.

>17 Taphophile13: Last year a bunch of zero-copy editions were removed from LT. One would hope that any unique corresponding search results would also have been removed.

19jasbro
Edited: May 23, 2016, 1:03 pm

>18 omargosh: I'm curious: Unless search results are somehow cached for future use (which seems both illogical and contrary to my experience of re-searching to yield updated results), why wouldn't removing zero-copy "Works" and zero-record "Authors" eliminate them from any subsequent, corresponding search result?

20Collectorator
May 23, 2016, 1:06 pm

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21jjwilson61
May 23, 2016, 1:42 pm

>19 jasbro: Search results aren't cached as far as I know (except for tag mashes) the search indexes are only updated nightly (East Coast US time). So you can expect a delay before you see any change in the site search results. (That's just for site searches, searches of just your library should always be up to date).

22Collectorator
May 23, 2016, 1:57 pm

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23omargosh
Edited: May 23, 2016, 2:03 pm

>19 jasbro: I suppose I just got used to tag search results that weren't updated for at least 2 years, and lost faith. :-)

>20 Collectorator: I hadn't considered that. I had imagined that they were bad editions that had gotten fixed in catalogs but somehow stuck around long enough to be findable. Where do you usually find these?* I sometimes see them attached to a "real" author name.

>21 jjwilson61: I'm not sure I totally believe they're updated nightly, or at least not all versions. Whenever I work on combining authors w/ diacritics, I frequently come across cases where one of the pages, say gonzlezjos, won't show up in the search results, but gonzaacutelezjoseacu will, even though the gonzlezjos page is the one currently displaying that work. But maybe the diacritics authors are a special case.

ETA: *By "these" I mean the ones that recalculate to nothing but a space-less string. The ones that recalculate to something with words are still valid, just uncombined, IMO.

24bonne1978
May 25, 2016, 8:12 am

Please combine
Art et Civilisations des Chasseurs de la Préhistoire 34000-8000 ans
www.librarything.com/work/17306119
www.librarything.com/work/9827242

25omargosh
May 25, 2016, 8:42 am

27Taphophile13
May 25, 2016, 11:36 am

>26 Ameise1: Done. Also combined a lone Nacht der Wahrheit.

28Ameise1
May 25, 2016, 11:37 am

>27 Taphophile13: Thanks so much. :-)

29kristincedar
May 25, 2016, 3:43 pm

Please combine:
#1: Reparation
https://www.librarything.com/work/17280397

#2: Reparation: A Supernatural Cult Thriller
https://www.librarything.com/work/17814641/edit/129767778

I've tried combining the editions, but I couldn't get it to work.

Thank you. You guys are saints!

30MarthaJeanne
May 25, 2016, 4:13 pm

>29 kristincedar: The first URL is for a 0 copy work.

If these don't show up on the editions page you need a special technique to combine them. Someone here who knows how to do it will show up soon. This note is to save time for others without it.

31davidgn
Edited: May 25, 2016, 5:07 pm

>30 MarthaJeanne: I'd appreciate a walk-through as well from whomever gets to it.

ETA: Ah, found it.

ETA: ...Or not...

32MarthaJeanne
Edited: May 25, 2016, 4:22 pm

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33jasbro
May 25, 2016, 5:32 pm

>29 kristincedar: Done. With thanks (again) to @brightcopy ...

34davidgn
May 25, 2016, 5:35 pm

>33 jasbro: OK, please explain how you did that, and what you mean. Am I missing some essential script-toy or something? I'm stumped.

35davidgn
Edited: May 27, 2016, 3:37 pm

Hmm, lookie what I found: http://www.librarything.com/author/anamaragiraldesjacqu DONE -- thanks!

Gonna need a whole lot of love if someone has the time.
Authors Jacqueline Balcells and Ana María Güiraldes need de-conjoinment surgery.

36Collectorator
May 26, 2016, 3:40 am

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37Schmerguls
May 26, 2016, 4:36 pm

38Schmerguls
May 26, 2016, 4:41 pm

#37 is referring to an empty line but I don't know how to delete it;

39davidgn
Edited: May 27, 2016, 3:02 am

>36 Collectorator: No further progress, but I split out and disambiguated the Pascal volumes of the various editions of Os Pensadores from the Pensamientos. ;-)

40akblanchard
May 27, 2016, 3:24 pm

I hope this is the right place for this. I just added and reviewed a book called "Movie Star by Lizzie Pepper" by Hilary Lipkin. The record I added my review to showed that I was the only person who had added that book and had a picture of the paperback edition (which I don't think is out yet). This was the only record I initially found for the book. Then, I searched again later and found another record for "Movie Star by Lizzie Pepper" with reviews etc. and a picture of the hardcover edition (published 8/15; this is the edition I read). I don't know why I didn't see the hardcover at first. Can the two editions be combined into one record, or is that not done?
Thank you.

41MarthaJeanne
Edited: May 27, 2016, 3:37 pm

>40 akblanchard: Done.

Another time, it is much easier if you give the URLs of the works that need combining so we don't have to search for them.

Note that you can edit your entry to reflect the copy you own. If you search on the ISBN of the book you have on the add book page you should get results that match your copy. I usually start with OverCat because I like library data and because chances are very good that my copy will autocombine into the right work.

42akblanchard
May 27, 2016, 3:54 pm

Thank you!

43davidgn
Edited: May 30, 2016, 12:32 am

If anyone wants a project, I started to crunch into K.A. Applegate's pseudonyms (https://www.librarything.com/author/applegateka) and quickly recoiled in horror. See http://viaf.org/viaf/29667906/ ; http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n92045317.html ; http://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n92-45317 . Created a bunch of aliases into the record, but they're mostly unpopulated as the amount of work to verify which titles associated with each pseudonym trace back to Applegate and which may trace to other users of the pseudonym is a nonstarter for me. Beyond the purview of my current project, but potentially makes a good standalone project for someone--ideally, someone more experienced.

44supersidvicious
Edited: May 31, 2016, 9:59 am

45omargosh
May 31, 2016, 9:57 am

>44 supersidvicious:
I think I've combined all of them from that series that were showing up on the Philippe Daverio page. However, for better or worse, in most cases the "AAAA - Corsera" won out as author (and thus the works disappeared from his page). I wasn't sure if "AAAA - Corsera" was a legitimate corporate author, or a ratty author, and it looks like Daverio wrote the introduction to those (I'm not sure if there is more text, or whether he'd still be considered a primary author), so I wasn't sure whether to override AAAA - Corsera with his name, or add him as a second/secondary author, or what.

46supersidvicious
May 31, 2016, 9:59 am

>45 omargosh: great thanks!
AAAA - Corsera is a ratty author but at least we have combined the works

47omargosh
May 31, 2016, 10:13 am

>43 davidgn:
I'm not sure why you started by making the aliases. I would usually go the other way, only bothering to split the names if I could identify that some of the works on the other author's page need to go into the KA Applegate's page, and if it the name were also used by somebody else (indeed, even if I knew a pseudonym existed, but there weren't any books cataloged in LT yet under that name, I wouldn't bother to split just for the sake of the pseudonym (though I might leave a note in the disambig for future splitters)).

Also, are there some publisher collective/house names involved or something? I would think a name like Bebe Faas Rice would only belong to one person (in which case a combination would be in order instead of a split-and-alias), but her picture on the first Google result of her name looks quite different from Applegate's.

Suffice it to say, I'm confused. :-)

48omargosh
May 31, 2016, 10:24 am

>46 supersidvicious:
In that case, I went ahead and overrode the ratty data with Daverio as primary on those I combined where AAAA won out, but didn't bother with setting the role (though feel free to change that).

49davidgn
Edited: May 31, 2016, 2:31 pm

>47 omargosh: OK, if you must know: I started out by having a brain fart. In a momentary lapse of reason, based on what I was looking at in VIAF and WorldCat Identities, I assumed some of the aliases were unique to Applegate and not publisher rent-a-monikers, and I provisionally assigned their works to Applegate before confirming. All of which I had to undo a few minutes later. But the handy-dandy alias anchors remain. Bonus! :-p

ETA: They all ARE confirmed aliases of Applegate, so that part is totally correct, as far as it goes. :-p

50omargosh
May 31, 2016, 2:49 pm

Well, we all get brain farts from time to time. :-) I would offer to undo the aliases and splits (at least where they might need unsplitting), but perhaps somebody actually wants to clean up for real, so I'll just leave it.

51Schmerguls
Edited: Jun 3, 2016, 11:27 am

This is an empty folder:

http://www.librarything.com/author/rapoportronaldb

Well, this is the book which should in the empty folder:

http://www.librarything.com/work/2492189/edit/14735499

I suppose it has something to do with the fact the book has two authors.

52omargosh
Jun 3, 2016, 11:46 am

>51 Schmerguls:
Exactly. Stone was winning out, since there were more copies with him in "first place". I added Rapoport via the "Add/edit other authors" thing on the work's main page, so now it should show up on both of their author pages.

53Schmerguls
Jun 3, 2016, 12:03 pm

Thank you, omargosh. You are a genius.

54omargosh
Jun 3, 2016, 1:03 pm

Haha, no, just been around here too long.

56.Monkey.
Jun 4, 2016, 9:36 am

>55 Ameise1: Done, was on the editions page

57Ameise1
Jun 4, 2016, 9:46 am

>56 .Monkey.: Thanks so much. :-)

59.Monkey.
Jun 5, 2016, 6:52 am

60jasbro
Jun 6, 2016, 8:30 am

>54 omargosh: No, no no! Never "too" long ... in fact, never long enough!

61nookbooks
Jun 6, 2016, 11:51 am

I have this book (http://www.librarything.com/work/165675/book/130829690), which, because I just did an import with title and author, seems to have combined with the novella instead of the novel. I don't know how to tell which one is mine to separate it from the novella, and then combine it with the novel.

62PhaedraB
Jun 6, 2016, 11:58 am

>61 nookbooks: You might want to edit your title in some minor way so you can find it, do the separation and combination, then correct your title.

63MarthaJeanne
Jun 6, 2016, 12:07 pm

>61 nookbooks: This seems to be fixed.

64nookbooks
Jun 6, 2016, 12:08 pm

>62 PhaedraB: Ok, so I just tried that.

I made it "The Empress of Mars (novel). I separated it from the novella, then combined it with the novel, then went back and changed the title to "The Empress of Mars." At which point it seems my copy combined back in with the novella. So I changed the title so that it has the word (novel) again, and now I can't find it in the list of things to separate.

65nookbooks
Edited: Jun 6, 2016, 12:11 pm

>64 nookbooks: ...and now it's fine.

edit: and 2 minutes later, after I change the cover, it's combined with the novella again. I am so confused.

66omargosh
Jun 6, 2016, 2:00 pm

It's because nearly all of the "editions" that have nothing but the plain title and the author (no ISBN or other indication -- at least at the LT "edition" level -- to tell which it is) are currently combined with the novella, so when you remove the "(novel)" from your title, it's just moving it back to where it has matches for that "edition" (for the sake of combining, editions only really take into account media format if marked, title, author, and ISBN). There's not really a great solution for cases like this. Sometimes a separate "ambiguous" work is created in hopes that people will further specify their copy, other times there's an educated guess to which work the ambiguous edition probably refers to, most of the time it's just left because nobody comes across the problem in the first place. :-)

67supersidvicious
Edited: Jun 13, 2016, 11:51 am

please reorder this series
1 done
http://www.librarything.com/series/Michigan%20Journal%20of%20Community%20Service...

some works need to be separated, see for example

http://www.librarything.com/work/10106706

thanks

68reading_fox
Jun 8, 2016, 6:20 am

I've got a work here https://www.librarything.com/work/17883372/summary/130936440 which claims the author (correctly) is Frederick Pohl but because of the source it was entered by it has been created in the details - as you can see - to magazine. Hence it's not possible (easy) to combine it with the other copy on LT - https://www.librarything.com/work/2407371

I've tried re-calculating the author, but that doesn't shift it away from magazine.

How do I combine them, and how do I change the deep author connection. Or does it just take time after the recalculate?

69.Monkey.
Jun 8, 2016, 6:24 am

>68 reading_fox: It might have done it itself with some time, but since you were the only one with a copy of it anyhow I simply changed the author on the work-only work page.

70reading_fox
Jun 8, 2016, 9:37 am

>69 .Monkey.: - Thanks. How did you do that? I couldn't even see a field where that was an option.

71.Monkey.
Jun 8, 2016, 9:43 am

Other authors. You can edit the primary, though it's not often supposed to be done, because it's work-level and can mess with stuff. But, work level when there's only one member... ;)

72Lyndatrue
Jun 9, 2016, 8:26 pm

Well, I just ran into a brick wall of surprise. I flagged a cover showing up as a cover for a work I own (I'll get to it), and was astonished to see that I'd flagged a cover for the correct book. Worse, I noted that the book in question had actually been combined with my book. The books in question (please note, no touchstones here, to save confusion) are "Dr. Chase's Third, Last, and Complete Receipt Book and Household Physician" by A. W. Chase and "Buffalo Cake and Indian Pudding" by A. W. Chase. The former is actually by him, where the latter is a compendium of recipes taken from his publications, and was published in 2011, by Penguin. According to the entry for it on Amazon, it's 96 pages in length, and is a paperback.

The single review for it states, in part, "...The entire series published by Penguin Books is really quite clever. They took works by famous individuals, some from the culinary world and reproduced them. I thought it was interesting to read about life in other times. Kudos to Penguin for doing this, anyway! "

I looked at the editions for this, and almost wept.

http://www.librarything.com/work/377308/editions/104987413

BTW, someone had gone to the bother of making "Buffalo Cake and Indian Pudding" as the canonical title, which really confuzzled me. I removed it, and put it as an alternative title (at least for now).

Please, someone more experienced that I, and more careful, separate out the Receipt Book variations from the Buffalo Cake.

I know, I know, I used a lot of words, where it could have been simpler. I can't help it.

Now I need to go off and post a mea culpa on the "Please vote against my boneheaded suggestion" and say that the cover flagging was a mistake.

Thanks in advance, from the heart.

73omargosh
Edited: Jun 9, 2016, 9:08 pm

>72 Lyndatrue: I'll take a stab at it.

ETA: actually, I'm confused. The CK seems to be for the Receipt book, but the request is to separate those editions out (and recombine them, of course) from the Buffalo Cake work?

74Lyndatrue
Edited: Jun 9, 2016, 10:21 pm

>73 omargosh: Yeah, I started editing the CK (mea culpa), and then realized my mistake.

The Receipt book is the one I care about, and I note that there are multiple editions of it. It's just that the other is a slim volume of excerpts from it, and I now see that there is also an item at the bottom of the CK saying that it's part of a publisher's series. I even note that the cover for my book is the leading item in that series (although it really ought to be the cover from the Buffalo Cake one).

Here's the link on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Classics-Great-Buffalo-Indian-Pudding/dp/0241950996

That cover's the correct one.

The series is here:

http://www.librarything.com/publisherseries/Penguin+Great+Food

I just don't understand why someone would have combined those. Should I just remove the non-Receipt CK before you separate them?

Forgive me, but I'm just adding some notes here so that I can go in and fix the CK after they're separated.

The publication date for Buffalo was 2011, the original publishing date for Receipt was 1887. The CK for the "alternative title" was added by me, when I removed it from the Canonical Title, and I'll delete it, after this is fixed. The Publisher Series link at the bottom belongs with Buffalo, and I'll remove it from Receipt, and make sure it's added to Buffalo.

Thanks very much for helping with this.

75omargosh
Jun 9, 2016, 10:37 pm

Ok, I hope you don't mind. I ended up doing the opposite of your requested direction (there were many more "editions" of Receipt, so I it was easier to separate the fewer Buffalo "editions", then recombine them).

So Buffalo should now be in its own work here: http://www.librarything.com/work/17895934/editions

And Receipt where it was: http://www.librarything.com/work/377308/editions

I think I may have even sorted out the CK, but I'll let you double check.

76Taphophile13
Jun 9, 2016, 11:14 pm

>74 Lyndatrue: Would it be a good idea to add disambiguation notices as well?

77Lyndatrue
Jun 10, 2016, 12:59 am

>75 omargosh: Thank you. It doesn't matter which way it was done, not to me. I just was astonished to see my book with that name renamed (because of the canonical name entry). My own copy is filled with additional, handwritten notes,, where there are pages meant for such, and recipes) written in the hand of someone older even than I.

Thank you, so very much. I love all my old books. The CK all looks great to me. Even the Publisher Series is correct.

>76 Taphophile13: A notice would probably be wise, but it's been a long week, and my brain is already fuzzy. There are a lot of versions of the Receipt Book. I suspect that the notice should go on the Buffalo book, since it's the modern excerpt. I just can't think of how, not tonight in any case.

I love you guys. I really, really do. Thanks again.

78jasbro
Edited: Jun 10, 2016, 3:15 pm

>75 omargosh: >77 Lyndatrue: I'm wondering: Should we also separate Dr. Chase's Receipt Book and Household Physician from Dr. Chase's Third, Last, and Complete Receipt Book and Household Physician, or are we satisfied that they're the same Work?

Also, I don't see a prior cover flagging issue per >72 Lyndatrue:, but I flagged the Buffalo Cake cover that's currently showing up as an Amazon alternative for ... Third, Last, and Complete .... Somebody correct me if I'm wrong! Thanks ...

79Lyndatrue
Jun 10, 2016, 3:32 pm

>78 jasbro: I believe it makes sense to just leave those as they are. Dr. Chase published multiple copies of his book, and I do see that there are various differing titles, but he's not here to ask. Without looking at each and every book, I don't think we know which ones are just a different title, and which are unique. The Third, Last book was published posthumously, I seem to recall. Wait a minute, I'll go check.

Yes, it's posthumous. He died in 1885, and it was first published in 1887. There's even a note at the beginning to that effect (but I'm unwilling to retrieve it from its protective bindings at the moment).

I'm trying to recall how many separate editions I found when I first looked at his work (in the context of valuation for my copy, nothing to do with LT). While there are many publications of his work, it may be that there were only three that count in this instance (Receipt Books). The small biography of his life provided in the link is the most instructive on the titles, and publication dates. I think that the total of books that deserved to be considered as unique, when I made the effort, was above 40 or so.

Unless the persons entering the Receipt book you mention have provided details, including publication dates, it's probably best to leave it be. I'm still trying to decide about The Mystic Fortune-Teller and Palmist listed as his. The title is amusing, but it seems out of character. It was entered in 2005, and has almost no other information.

On the other hand, it's not hurting anything, and that member hasn't been active since 2007.

80Lyndatrue
Jun 10, 2016, 3:35 pm

>78 jasbro: Just now saw about the flagging. Gee, what a surprise, Amazon secondary sellers contributing bad data. No, it should not ever be considered as an alternative. That little collection of recipes is cute, but not the same' and I'd bet that the recipes collected in that book were all vetted as not being dangerous, or at least I hope so. Dr. Chase recommends some scary stuff in his books.

81lesmel
Jun 10, 2016, 4:33 pm

Should The Descent into Hell (Penguin Epics) really be combined with The Inferno? It's excerpts from the work, not the whole thing. http://www.librarything.com/work/25918/editions/114723586

82omargosh
Edited: Jun 10, 2016, 5:14 pm

>77 Lyndatrue:
Thanks for the love.

>78 jasbro:
I looked at a copy of the "Third Last and Complete" book on archive.org. In the author's preface (perhaps actually written by the publisher?) he writes, 'in my first and second books, i.e., "Dr. Chase's Reciepts, or Information for Everybody;" and Dr. Chase's Family Physician, Bee Keeper, and Second Receipt Book"', so I imagine it's probably? pretty safe to keep "Dr. Chase's Receipt Book and Household Physician" with the "Third Last and Complete" ones. ETA: and it might just be a consequence of how it was written on the cover and/or how the title page was interpreted (it's one of those titles that goes on forever).

83Lyndatrue
Jun 10, 2016, 5:30 pm

>82 omargosh: He wrote that, since it was in the process of being published (although it seems he was blocked on all sides by Beal). There's also the publisher's note in the very front.

Yeah, that title does go on forever, but in those times, they often did.

84jasbro
Jun 10, 2016, 11:23 pm

>81 lesmel: I think you're right. The Descent into Hell (Penguin Epics) is now separated and recombined as a separate Work on its own, with a Disambiguation notice to distinguish it from The Inferno. Thank you.

85Jarandel
Edited: Jun 12, 2016, 11:56 am

Nevermind, finally found and nailed it.

86supersidvicious
Jun 12, 2016, 1:41 pm

please see #67

87BogAl
Edited: Jun 12, 2016, 5:43 pm

>67 supersidvicious:, via 86 supersidvicious: I think that's got 'em.

88supersidvicious
Jun 13, 2016, 11:51 am

>87 BogAl: thanks!

89basmannyforum
Edited: Jun 15, 2016, 12:47 pm

Please combine:
#1: Rome Sweet Home: Our Journey to Catholicism (In Russian: Все дороги ведут в Рим)
https://www.librarything.com/work/17921546
https://www.librarything.com/work/34026

It is just a russian edition of the book.
Thanks!

90.Monkey.
Jun 15, 2016, 2:08 pm

91basmannyforum
Edited: Jun 15, 2016, 3:23 pm

So fast! Thanks!
How do you do that? I searched 30 minutes a way to combine them. I understood how to combine the authors, but the works is still a mistery for me...

92.Monkey.
Jun 15, 2016, 3:28 pm

I added Scott Hahn as an other author on the Russian one. Then just combined from his page.

93.Monkey.
Jun 16, 2016, 1:43 am

Okay, so user @auckland has posted in Spanish saying that the copy of their work is saying things about a different work. The work page is The Secret Agent (El agente secreto), but their book has a title of El confidente secreto (along with one other edition in the Agent list), which I do not even see listed on Conrad's Spanish page. Their post asking for help is here (and their particular book page is here if you want to see that). Any fluent Spanish speakers who can figure this out?

94omargosh
Jun 16, 2016, 1:53 am

>93 .Monkey.:
Working on it. Will respond on the other thread.

95bluepiano
Edited: Jun 16, 2016, 4:39 pm

http://www.librarything.com/author/leili

I separated Li Lei the dermatologist from Li Lei the artist but though I suspect there's no way to move '(editor)' to its proper place in the former's listing (because I don't have his book, I can't edit it) I'd like to find a way to delete '(editor)' from the latter's on this page, as otherwise plain 'Li Lei', the artist, wouldn't show in results in the unlikely event of someone's conducting an author search for him. I've tried several ways of doing this but none worked. Ta.

96MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jun 16, 2016, 4:46 pm

>95 bluepiano: You should be able to edit the author on the work page in the other author section. This is one of the exceptions when it really ought to be done.

98.Monkey.
Jun 18, 2016, 7:26 am

99Ameise1
Jun 18, 2016, 7:43 am

>98 .Monkey.: :-) thanks so much and have a nice weekend.

100Lyndatrue
Jun 18, 2016, 10:21 pm

I started to fix this myself, but I don't trust me to do it right. Here's the problem: I added a cover artist to a book I'd added today, but there's ten potential choices. The name is Paul Alexander, and out of the possibles on this page:

http://www.librarything.com/author/alexanderpaul

He's the first choice.

http://www.librarything.com/author/alexanderpaul-6

I already have one book represented there, but the one I just added today ended up at the bottom, in the Unknown group. The work in question is Systemic Shock (whoa, a touchstone that words). Please attach it to the correct Paul Alexander for me, and I'll be extraordinarily grateful.

Thanks in advance.

101bernsad
Jun 18, 2016, 10:30 pm

102jasbro
Edited: Jun 18, 2016, 10:38 pm

>100 Lyndatrue: I think I've done what you asked here.

If you want to do it yourself some time, here's how: I went to the Paul Alexander disambiguation page, then looked to the upper-right corner for "Author Division" under "Improve this Author," and clicked "edit the division." On the resulting page, I scrolled down to the Title, Systemic Shock, which showed the particular Paul Alexander as "unknown." By clicking the drop-down list of numbers, I picked 6 (which you advised is the right one), then scrolled down further and clicked "Save page."

Does that help?

ETA: Looks like @bernsad beat me to it! Thanks ...

103Lyndatrue
Jun 18, 2016, 10:39 pm

>101 bernsad:, >102 jasbro: I really love you guys. I really, really do. Thank you very much (and also thanks for the reminders on how to do it).

104bluepiano
Jun 19, 2016, 6:06 am

>96 MarthaJeanne:, ? I don't think you mean that I should add (editor) author to the art book & I can't enter other authors on the dermatology page. . . Sorry, but I'm not following you.

105.Monkey.
Jun 19, 2016, 7:10 am

>104 bluepiano: You can always use other authors on any work page. I removed (editor) from the name. I'm assuming it'll take a bit for the system to reflect the change though... Canonical name can be used meanwhile...?

106vancouverdeb
Edited: Jun 20, 2016, 11:06 am

Please combine this book

Everyone Brave is Forgiven by Chris Cleave

https://www.librarything.com/work/16748350#

with this single copy of the identical book

https://www.librarything.com/work/17943723/131424167

Thanks in advance!

107MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jun 20, 2016, 11:13 am

Done. There were other strays as well.

108ErstwhileEditor
Jun 20, 2016, 1:43 pm

Please separate the books in the Time-Life series "Great Meals in Minutes". I have just started to log in books that are in that series and see that they are all considered to be the same book! Also, the covers appear not to be sticking as I am trying to add the correct cover... They appear to revert to what is considered to be the one correct cover. (I say "appear" because when I go back in to edit the book, the correct cover may be there.) Perhaps this will self-correct when the books in the series are separated.

These are the books that I have logged in (and I have many to go but don't want to do it until they will come up as separate books):

Great Meals in Minutes: Brunch Menus

Great Meals in Minutes: Egg & Cheese Menus

Great Meals in Minutes: Family Menus

Thanks!

109PhaedraB
Jun 20, 2016, 2:15 pm

>108 ErstwhileEditor: Just in case you weren't aware, when auto-combining, the software ignores text after a colon. (It also ignores text in parentheses.) So if the titles are entered the way you have them listed, they will have to be separated manually.

The correct cover should show up on your copy in your catalog, but it's a bit dicier if they're all combined. But when separated, the correct cover should go with them.

You can do the manual separations yourself via the Editions page, if you haven't investigated that option yet.

110PhaedraB
Jun 20, 2016, 2:17 pm

>108 ErstwhileEditor: Also, it would help if you provide links in your post.

111omargosh
Jun 20, 2016, 2:36 pm

>108 ErstwhileEditor:
For some reason those ones were all getting combined into the Pasta book, even though those titles all have other copies in other works. I've separated those out and combined them to where they should be. I'd be curious to know (to try to understand LT's inner workings better) whether, as you add more copies, they too get stuck with the Pasta work, or whether they get treated as singletons, or whether something else happens.

As PhaedraB says, you can do separations yourself from the Editions page. Since your editions are authorless, they're a bit more tricky to recombine into the appropriate home. But feel free to post the links here if things needs further combining.

112ErstwhileEditor
Jun 20, 2016, 3:16 pm

Thanks, folks. And I didn't know about the colon issue. In this case, the colons are assumed. In other cases, however, the colons are actually part of the title. This would seem to pose issues for the latter type of title, which makes me wonder about the described approach in general

I hope that as I continue with this series, it will be obvious where the Editions page is. (I have never looked for it, so the link may be quite visible. In that case, I will find it.)

Thanks again!

P.S. I see that my next entries for the Good Cook series will have the same issue.

113PhaedraB
Jun 20, 2016, 6:21 pm

>112 ErstwhileEditor: The link for the Editions page is on the book page, in the left-hand navigation column.

114jasbro
Edited: Jun 21, 2016, 10:50 am

>108 ErstwhileEditor:, >109 PhaedraB: and >111 omargosh:

Searching the site for "Great Meals in Minutes," I've found, separated and re-combined a few more, and added the Series http://www.librarything.com/series/Time-Life%3A+Great+Meals+in+Minutes (if not a volume number) to some apparent records that weren't previously associated. In doing so, I find these, which may be British (Bloomsbury) editions of certain volumes from the Time-Life Series:

Great Meals in Minutes: French Regional Menus
Great Meals in Minutes: Pasta Menus
Great Meals in Minutes: Wok Menus

Can anybody confirm whether they're the same? If they are, they should be combined. (In fact, Great Meals in Minutes: Chinese Menus was combined as I type -- not sure that's right.) And, if so, should "Time-Life" also come off the Series name and Canonical titles?

Thanks to all!

115bernsad
Jun 21, 2016, 5:21 pm

>114 jasbro: I think time life should come off the canonical titles at least.

116vancouverdeb
Jun 21, 2016, 8:36 pm

Can you please combine this book The Nest by Cynthia D'Aprix Sweeney

https://www.librarything.com/work/16376413

with this book, which for some reason has a slightly misspelled author name. The Nest
by Cynthia D'aprix Swee

https://www.librarything.com/work/17798814/summary/131481886

Thanks so much!

Thanks MarthaJeanne @107

117omargosh
Jun 21, 2016, 8:52 pm

>114 jasbro:
On WorldCat, there is one book that shows up when searching for both Bloomsbury and Time-Life with the series title. The others don't mention a connection that I could see. On the one hand, how many different works titled "Great Meals in Minutes: French Regional Menus" are likely to exist? On the other hand, the Time-Life books seem to be ~105 pages, but the Bloomsbury only 60.

118jasbro
Edited: Jun 22, 2016, 12:43 pm

>115 bernsad: I'm inclined to agree, except -- in addition to the three noted at #114 (above) -- an LT site search for "Great Meals in Minutes" this morning also turns up Great Meals in Minutes and Fat-Free & Easy: Great Meals in Minutes, neither of which appears to be part of the Time-Life Series. At least the latter is a subtitle.

>117 omargosh: Thanks for this! Maybe the Time-Life books have extra large pictures? I note that a WorldCat search for just Bloomsbury and "Great Meals in Minutes" gives a total of 15 results, every one of which has a title that's eerily similar to one or another subtitle in the Time-Life Series, but none of which looks to be more than 60 pages. Then again, it looks like the Time-Life books were originally done around 1984-1985, with some (at least) reissued around 1992; the Bloomsburys (that I've noticed) seem to be dated 1994-95; and there's this: http://www.abebooks.com/AHEAD-MENUS-Bloomsbury-TIME-LIFE-London/2046280403/bd, "Published by Bloomsbury FOR TIME LIFE." I'm generally not gonna dispute another Combiner's decision to lump these Works (although I've re-separated Great Meals in Minutes: Chinese Menus), and I'm inclined to leave them alone (with "conditional" Disambiguation notices) pending further determination.

In any case, we should probably also re-review (again?) Editions and Cover Images for each volume in the Series, as several still appear to be crossed up. OK, so that wasn't as bad as I first thought ...

119thornton37814
Jun 25, 2016, 9:43 am

I ran across this one, but I'm not sure how to fix it. The first entry is under the author; the second is under the editor. Both should appear on the record as authors. I'll put the one with the author first since it should be the main entry and the other should be added author.

https://www.librarything.com/work/6764805
https://www.librarything.com/work/2979161

120omargosh
Jun 25, 2016, 10:04 am

>119 thornton37814:
I fixed this one, but cases like this are pretty easy to fix. I just went to the main page of the one with the right primary author, added "Jones, William MacFarlane" as an Editor under the "Other authors" section (I added him as a main, some editions ... if it should instead be set to secondary or all editions, feel free to change it). Then from the William MacFarlane Jones page, I could simply combine those two works. (Since they each had 6 copies, I also double checked to make sure that WMJ didn't end up as both first and second author after the combination. Sometimes that happens, and it ends up hiding the work from the primary author's page.)

121leselotte
Jun 27, 2016, 5:19 am

Someone has been combining the William Shakespeare BBC radio editions with the main works; thereby messing with canonical titles and who knows what else. I'm at work and don't have time to work on it, so I'm just throwing it out here!

Thanks in advance!

122jasbro
Edited: Jul 1, 2016, 11:14 am

>121 leselotte: What suggestion(s) would you Combiners! offer on how we go about fixing these?

ETA: I'm taking a stab at fixing Hamlet, because it tops the list with the most copies (after The Complete ... ).

ETA again: Thus far, I've:

(1) Separated and recombined all records having "BBC" in their title from the primary record for the play to a separate Work;

(2) Moved the BBC Radio-specific Canonical Title and Publisher Series from the primary play's Common Knowledge to the new record for the BBC Radio Work;

(3) Added to the Disambiguation Notice, "Please distinguish between this Work, which is Shakespeare's original play, from any of its many adaptations (audio, video, reworking, etc.). Thank you."; and

(4) Added Disambiguation Notices to the BBC Radio and BBC Television Works, "Please distinguish these {radio/television} adaptations from Shakespeare's original play. Thank you."

I'm going back now to look for specific ISBN matches to also separate and recombine, but I've also noticed / learned / been reminded that:

(a) BBC has done multiple, different radio adaptations over the years (some featuring Kenneth Branagh in the title role, others having Michael Sheen or Ronald Pickup, and still others unidentified);

(b) BBC has also done at least one, possibly multiple, television adaptations; and

(c) We've not yet begun to fight ...

Last ETA (for now): I've further divided out ISBNs, distinguished Canonical Titles & disambiguated the three BBC Radio adaptations, but that's about as far as I can go this morning. Browser history suggests it's taken me about an hour. Anything other Combiners! can do will be appreciated. I'm also thinking we should we move this process to a thread of its own. Your thoughts? Thanks ...

123Lyndatrue
Jul 1, 2016, 8:18 pm

I appear to have confused myself (not for the first time).

Please combine my newly added copy:

http://www.librarything.com/work/10552148

with the others:

http://www.librarything.com/work/10552127

124Collectorator
Jul 1, 2016, 8:35 pm

This member has been suspended from the site.

125Lyndatrue
Jul 1, 2016, 8:59 pm

>124 Collectorator: Thank you very much. :-}

126MarthaJeanne
Jul 5, 2016, 11:04 am

If any historians with good language skills are familiar with the works of Paul Veyne, I suspect there are still works on his page that need to be combined. I found several, but ran out of energy to look things up. (Most works also needed some CK help.)

BTW, I'm currently reading Palmyra in German, and ought to look for other works of his.

127DuncanHill
Jul 5, 2016, 1:29 pm

Anyone fancy having a bash at William Shakespeare? Someone has combined BBC radio productions with some of the main entries, eg http://www.librarything.com/work/2225

I've had a go at King Lear, but the pages take an age to load on my connexion.

128jasbro
Jul 5, 2016, 5:37 pm

>121 leselotte:, >127 DuncanHill:, all Combiners!:

I've shifted this issue to a thread of its own: http://www.librarything.com/topic/226593. Please don't hesitate to refer other Combiners! and LT Members, and please help as you can. Thank you!

129StJosephIssaquah
Jul 5, 2016, 9:45 pm

Please Separate 1 book by Jean Pierre de Caussade from 3 others that I combined last year:

Separate:
http://www.librarything.com/work/170145/book/109939166 (Self-Abandonment to Divine Providence and Letters of Fr. de Caussade on the Practice of Self-Abandonment)

From:
1. http://www.librarything.com/work/170145/book/103807453 (Abandonment to Divine Providence)

2. http://www.librarything.com/work/170145/book/125089867 (Abandonment to Divine Providence)

3. http://www.librarything.com/work/170145/book/120016012 (The Sacrament of the Present Moment)

I stupidly combined all of them last year but the first book includes letters that are not part of the 2nd, 3rd or 4th titles listed here. I still believe the last three titles should be combined - they are just different translations or editions. I'm in over my head, made a mistake and can't even figure out how to get to the combine/separate page anymore so..."HELP"!

130MarthaJeanne
Jul 6, 2016, 1:00 am

>129 StJosephIssaquah: I've started the job. To continue, go to the edition page of the work http://www.librarything.com/work/170145/editions. Now go down the list, separating each line with the title you want to separate. Each of those will then need to be combined into http://www.librarything.com/work/18028999/editions.

You should also add disambiguation notices to the CK of the books explaining why they aren't combined.

131jasbro
Jul 6, 2016, 7:40 pm

>129 StJosephIssaquah: When I'm looking to separate a bunch of the same edition using Firefox as my browser, I find it helpful to search (CTRL+F) for a string that's distinctive to the records I want to separate -- often a common part of Titles (like "Sacrament of the Present Moment" in your examples above, the first of which I separated here: http://www.librarything.com/work/18032512/editions), or part of an ISBN (the first 9 digits of a 10-digit ISBN typically being the same as the 4th-12th digits in as 13-digit ISBN). As I find each occurrence, I click "separate," then "Separate book"; and, once they're separated, right-click "editions" for the Separated work to open it in a new tab, and left-click "editions" for the Original work to return to its Editions page. Once I have multiple Separated works open in new tabs, they're frequently easy to combine using "Potential work combinations" that LT suggests. Please let us know if that process helps you, or if it raises any further question. Thank you.

133.Monkey.
Jul 9, 2016, 5:27 pm

134supersidvicious
Edited: Jul 11, 2016, 4:09 am

135europhile
Jul 11, 2016, 3:56 am

136Rick_Deckard
Jul 11, 2016, 9:40 am

Please combine:

Nights slow Poison: http://www.librarything.com/work/15303476
German Translation: http://www.librarything.com/work/18051603

Thank you

137MarthaJeanne
Jul 11, 2016, 9:52 am

138MarthaJeanne
Jul 13, 2016, 8:37 am

Question.

HTML for Dummies and HTML 4 for Dummies have been combined. http://www.librarything.com/work/91601
Obviously the different versions of HTML are different enough to consider these separate works, but as all of the included versions are very out of date, is it worth separating them?

139JerryMmm
Jul 13, 2016, 8:43 am

whether it's worth it I can't comment, but they are different works so should really be separated.

140MarthaJeanne
Jul 13, 2016, 9:23 am

Alright, I've done it. Can someone else finish the combining please.

Main work
http://www.librarything.com/work/18062291

0 copies
http://www.librarything.com/work/18062404

Various that didn't combine in easily
http://www.librarything.com/work/18062367
http://www.librarything.com/work/18062365/editions

141.Monkey.
Jul 13, 2016, 9:30 am

142thornton37814
Jul 14, 2016, 11:44 am

https://www.librarything.com/work/18068295
https://www.librarything.com/work/495845

There are some other editions with different statements of responsibilities. Some of the others differ in arrangement from this 1920 edition according to a blog post I read from someone at the New England Historic & Genealogical Society.

143europhile
Edited: Jul 14, 2016, 5:56 pm

144ChristinasBookshelf
Jul 15, 2016, 1:10 pm

Help! I accidentally combined some of the 2007 and 2014 movies titled Pride (or maybe someone else did, but I figured out that some didn't belong). The 2007 movie was directed by Sunu Gonera and is about a black swim team. The 2014 movie was directed by Matthew Warchus and is about LGBT activists who helped striking miners. I can't figure out which ones to separate out in the Sunu Gonera combine/separate page.

https://www.librarything.com/author/gonerasunu

https://www.librarything.com/work/16520057

145MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jul 15, 2016, 2:49 pm

>144 ChristinasBookshelf: I have separated out anything that cannot be identified into https://www.librarything.com/work/18076346 and https://www.librarything.com/work/18076392 (which could be combined) and put a disambiguation note in.

146TnTexas
Jul 16, 2016, 6:55 pm

Please combine my copy of Little Golden Book Christmas Stories with the other copies of the book please. I usually don't have a problem combining books, but I can't figure out how to do this one. Thanks!

My copy: http://www.librarything.com/work/18080792/book/132345988

The other copies: http://www.librarything.com/work/16679491

147Collectorator
Jul 16, 2016, 8:16 pm

This member has been suspended from the site.

148TnTexas
Jul 17, 2016, 8:02 pm

>147 Collectorator: Collectorator: Thanks! Not sure what you meant by taking "a couple of liberties on the authors", but it's grouped with the others now so thanks. :o)

149Collectorator
Jul 17, 2016, 8:29 pm

This member has been suspended from the site.

150bnielsen
Jul 18, 2016, 6:55 am

This kind of trouble normally goes away after I post it here, so here I go again :-)

These two works are written by the same guy

http://www.librarything.com/work/18065065/workdetails/132256227

http://www.librarything.com/work/16705354/workdetails/122978054

but on his author page

http://www.librarything.com/author/petersenjannrgaard

only one of them shows up?

I'd like to know how to fix it myself :-)

I think one cause of the trouble is that his name was listed as Jan Nørg@ård Petersen or something similar in the library record I imported. I edited the author name and then noticed that the author page didn't list the book. Maybe it would have been better to import the book and combine the two authors and then correct the author name of Jan Nørg@ård Petersen?

151Collectorator
Jul 18, 2016, 9:29 am

This member has been suspended from the site.

152bnielsen
Jul 18, 2016, 9:34 am

Thanks! - also on behalf of the author :-)

154MarthaJeanne
Jul 19, 2016, 11:08 am

155Ameise1
Jul 19, 2016, 11:40 am

>154 MarthaJeanne: Thanks so much.

157.Monkey.
Jul 21, 2016, 5:51 am

158MarthaJeanne
Jul 21, 2016, 6:59 am

It's so nice to have a computer-savvy friend.

1602wonderY
Jul 21, 2016, 8:28 am

161Ameise1
Jul 21, 2016, 8:29 am

>160 2wonderY: Thanks so much. :-)

162StJosephIssaquah
Jul 21, 2016, 9:35 am

Only 1 title needs to be separated from the other 3. Are you saying to do that I need to separate all 4 and then recombine just 3 of them?

163jjwilson61
Jul 21, 2016, 10:08 am

>162 StJosephIssaquah: Can you add the number of the post you're responding to your post so I can tell what you're talking about? If you put a > in front of the number (no space) then LT will turn it into a link to the post making it even easier for your readers.

164lesmel
Jul 21, 2016, 11:49 am

I'm about 100% sure that the 9 copies of Phantom (16th line in the editions page) are really the comic and not the Dean Koontz book http://www.librarything.com/work/32504/editions/99936467. Agree/disagree?

165MarthaJeanne
Jul 21, 2016, 12:19 pm

No opinion as to where the two Phantom editions really belong, but I separated them and put in a disambiguation notice. http://www.librarything.com/work/18102275/editions

They have three suggestions, none of which is a comic.

166jasbro
Jul 21, 2016, 7:10 pm

>163 jjwilson61: I think @StJosephIssaquah is responding to >130 MarthaJeanne: and my >131 jasbro:.

>162 StJosephIssaquah: No, I was thinking of having a bunch to search among and separate -- not just one of four. If you can tell which one you're after, just separate it, recombine it as appropriate, and leave the other three where they are. Does that help? Thanks ...

167bluepiano
Jul 26, 2016, 12:35 pm

http://www.librarything.com/work/15615753/editions

http://www.librarything.com/work/18122613/book/132624960

These Methuen editions have as many pages of commentary & notes as they do of the play itself, so I reckon they should be entered separately from other copies of the play. However despite messing about altering title, author of my copy & recalculating from both directions I've not been able to combine the two.

As well, when I go to my copy of The Lonesome West from 'add books' page it shows as a singleton, as in above link; when I go to it via site search it shows as one of a few dozen (non-Methuen) copies.

Thanks to whoever sorts this mess out.

168Schmerguls
Edited: Jul 26, 2016, 12:43 pm

Under Dorothy Canfield Fisher there is listed the book Old Jules, which is by Mari Sandoz. Should it be shown as by Dorothy Fisher?

Here is the link to the book:

http://www.librarything.com/work/812988

And here is the link to Fisher's page which shows the book as by her!:

http://www.librarything.com/author/fisherdorothycanfiel

seems to me the book should not be shown as by Fisher. Maybe she wrote an introduction or something to an edition of Old Jules, but if so it would seem that the book should not show as by her. Am I wrong?

169Jarandel
Edited: Jul 26, 2016, 1:41 pm

>167 bluepiano: The two you linked are combined here now http://www.librarything.com/work/18122613/
As usual older links will continue to seem to work and produce wonky results as LT tries to accommodate requests for books & works combinations that may or may not exist anymore.
The main work here http://www.librarything.com/work/831521 seems to include other Methuen editions, though I wouldn't know if they're just the bare play or not.

>168 Schmerguls: Edit : Not a study guide as I thought, but there's at least one crap Amazon entry and a few dodgy download links that seem to refer to her as the author, must have come from there.
If she did write an introduction then it should show up on her page yes, usually in the second part lower down for secondary authors.

170MarthaJeanne
Edited: Jul 26, 2016, 2:14 pm

>168 Schmerguls: Yes, bad Amazon data.

171jasbro
Jul 31, 2016, 1:18 pm

Just noticed, but don't have time to investigate -- Can somebody either combine or disambiguate:

No One Writes to the Colonel and

No One Writes to the Colonel: and Other Stories?

Thank you!

172avatiakh
Jul 31, 2016, 11:28 pm

Just combined 2 lots of
The Road to Ballyshannon by David Martin, was also listed as David M. Martin (3) and now book doesn't appear at all on author page/disambiguation page when clicking on author name

http://www.librarything.com/work/5199128

David Martin (1937) born Belfast - not seeing a middle initial in my copy of above book
author of The Task (1975)
The Ceremony of Innocence (1977)

173MarthaJeanne
Edited: Aug 1, 2016, 2:40 am

>172 avatiakh: I think what you are saying is that it does not show on the David Martin page. http://www.librarything.com/author/martindavid for people who have the author listed that way. This was David Martin 14, which doesn't seem to exist any more.

Amazon has the M in some cases. Library sources don't. The other two books you mention do not seem to be entered in LT. I don't see any other documentation for the M, so I am inclined to suspect it is wrong.

You can try to get Amazon to correct their listing to prevent more bad entries. (In this case maybe both .com and .co.uk)

I suspect that both books at http://www.librarything.com/author/martindavidm-3 have had their primary author changed. Road has 5 without the M and 4 with. Dream has only editions without.

If we remove the M, those with it listed lose their connection to the author page. If we alias the current listing to David Martin and reestablish -14?

174avatiakh
Aug 1, 2016, 2:58 am

>173 MarthaJeanne: Wow, so very complicated. I probably stuffed it up a little as some copies of the bookwere by David M. Martin and some by David Martin and I tried combining after changing the author info to David M. Martin, which at the time I thought was correct. Would it help to fill in his canonical name?

I gave those details about his other books so he could be separated from all the other David Martins both with & without the M.

I think he should be a 'David Martin' as the author info in my copy of The Road to Ballyshannon shows him as just that and that's where I got the info on his other two books. He seems to be an obscure author.

175MarthaJeanne
Edited: Aug 1, 2016, 3:20 am

>174 avatiakh: No, entering a canonical name will not help, and will only hide what the problem is.

Let's face it. Most authors are obscure. In fact look at http://www.librarything.com/author/martindavid. At least 27 authors with the same name, and how many of us have heard of any of them?

176bluepiano
Aug 2, 2016, 9:30 am

http://www.librarything.com/work/12896437

In 'other authors' I've got the editors sorted and have downgraded Barbie Wilde from author to contributor but she's still showing as primary, rather than secondary, author and so the book is still attributed to her upon searching. I can't see the way to edit this, and there's no delete option to allow for deleting & then re-entering her correctly.

Many thanks. Again.

177bluepiano
Aug 2, 2016, 9:37 am

As well, CDs of a story aren't to be listed as an edition of the printed work--or are they?

178omargosh
Aug 2, 2016, 12:02 pm

>176 bluepiano:
Should look better now?

179omargosh
Aug 2, 2016, 12:04 pm

>177 bluepiano:
If they are unabridged, then yes, audiobooks get combined with the printed book.

180bluepiano
Aug 2, 2016, 12:10 pm

omargosh, cheers for both. Do you mind my asking how you changed Wilde from primary to secondary? even though I mightn't understand the answer?

181omargosh
Edited: Aug 2, 2016, 12:16 pm

Wilde was already listed as a secondary contributor too, so I just left that part as is. You can't really remove a primary, but in this case, since it was actually incorrect (and, importantly, a recalculate wouldn't change it), I edited the primary to be Paul Kane instead, then removed the redundant Paul Kane main listing.

182bnielsen
Edited: Aug 3, 2016, 6:18 pm

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183frink
Aug 5, 2016, 7:11 pm

I'm not sure what the proper approach to merge here is, as I have only done this a couple of times and this case has never come up.

These authors:
James Dewar (3): https://www.librarything.com/author/dewarjames-3
James A. Dewar: https://www.librarything.com/author/dewarjamesa

are the same. His books that are separated between those listings are:

To The End Of The Solar System: The Story Of The Nuclear Rocket https://www.librarything.com/work/458941
The Nuclear Rocket: Making Our Planet Green, Peaceful and Prosperous https://www.librarything.com/work/9601598/book/132972717
(coauthored with Robert W. Bussard).

184bernsad
Aug 5, 2016, 9:16 pm

>183 frink: Better?

185supersidvicious
Edited: Aug 9, 2016, 1:33 am

186jasbro
Aug 8, 2016, 1:13 pm

>185 supersidvicious: How's that? #3 puzzled me a bit; I'm still unsure about the title that begins "1977 - 88," but saw that the cover image was consistent with #3. Thanks!

187supersidvicious
Aug 9, 2016, 1:34 am

>186 jasbro: unluckily no idea :-( , I found the series wandering around in LT

188frink
Edited: Aug 9, 2016, 6:22 am

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189frink
Aug 9, 2016, 6:26 am

>184 bernsad: Yes, thank you!

191omargosh
Aug 9, 2016, 7:56 am

192MissWatson
Aug 11, 2016, 12:13 pm

When I entered my German copy of a one-volume edition of Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn, it autocombined to Tom Sawyer
http://www.librarything.com/work/2236/book/133181822

However, it should be combined with these editions containing both Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn
http://www.librarything.com/work/3055048

Professional help would be greatly appreciated.

193henkl
Aug 11, 2016, 2:33 pm

194MissWatson
Aug 12, 2016, 3:50 am

>193 henkl: Thank you so much!

195bluepiano
Aug 12, 2016, 11:39 am

http://www.librarything.com/publisherseries/Photography+at+the+Musee+d%27Orsay & http://www.librarything.com/series/Photography+at+the+Mus%C3%A9e+d%27Orsay are the same series.

I'd certainly thought the series was a publisher's series--the titles are disparate and non-sequential--so I entered my own works as such on CK. The second page linked is the result of the works being entered in the other 'series' box. The two should be combined & the only way that seems possible is to delete the first 'series' entries and re-enter them as 'publisher's series', as simply adding the latter to the former doesn't combine them. Because I'm wary of deleting others' work I want to double-check to know for certain 1) that this is indeed a publisher's series, and 2) that what I suggested is the way to combine the two lots.

Thanks.

196MarthaJeanne
Aug 12, 2016, 11:46 am

I would call that a series.

197Collectorator
Aug 12, 2016, 11:48 am

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198Schmerguls
Aug 12, 2016, 11:50 am

I don't suppose this is pertinent to this site but I don't know where else to put it.

I often use the "What you should borrow " to see what people think I should read. I saw one the other day which said I should borrow Dubliners by Jame Joyce--but I have that book listed on my own site. Who do I point this out to?

199jjwilson61
Aug 12, 2016, 12:07 pm

>198 Schmerguls: Who do I point this out to?

This is the place. If you look at work details under Book information you'll see that the book is actually connected to a work with the author Andrew Thacker who is he editor of that work. I don't know if that work should be combined with the Dubliner work by James Joyce or if your edition should be separated out first and then combined with the James Joyce. Someone will likely come along soon who knows what to do.

200bluepiano
Aug 12, 2016, 1:13 pm

>196 MarthaJeanne:, 197, Thanks. But what's the distinction, then? are there definitions of the two to be found anywhere on the stie?

201Collectorator
Aug 12, 2016, 1:18 pm

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202jjwilson61
Aug 12, 2016, 2:02 pm

>200 bluepiano: The crux of the issue is whether someone can legitimately say that their edition of a work is not in the series. If they can say that then it's a publishers series and not a regular series. So if my edition of Huckleberry Finn was published as part of series A and someone else's edition was published as part of series B then A and B are both publishers series.

203Schmerguls
Edited: Aug 12, 2016, 2:44 pm

OK, here is the link where my copy of Dubliners is listed:

http://www.librarything.com/work/137084/edit/11107766

Dubliners is shwon as having over 10000 copies at this site:

http://www.librarything.com/work/3483

Shouldn't they be combined?

204MarthaJeanne
Aug 12, 2016, 2:59 pm

No, those works should NOT be combined. Your copy is in the wrong work. First, check your copy for the correct ISBN. Then your copy can be separated and combined into the correct work.

Description of the work your copy is in: Andrew Thacker brings together a range of different critical interpretations of Dubliners that demonstrate the complexity and fascination of James Joyce's "moral history." ...

205.Monkey.
Aug 12, 2016, 3:00 pm

>203 Schmerguls: The cover on that says "contemporary critical essays." Is that not what your book is? If it's not simply Dubliners but some sort of critical response to it, then no, it should not be combined.

206jasbro
Edited: Aug 12, 2016, 3:25 pm

This thread is now CLOSED. Please continue our discussions at Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #74 -- http://www.librarything.com/topic/228892. Thank you!