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1berbalang First Message
Dec 5, 2007, 12:42 am

Since part of this seems to be about communication between the left and right hemispheres - does Julian Jaynes make it into the research of this?

I have always found the "Bicameral Mind" an interesting theory. Have the times caught up with that or passed it by? Do human beings with separation of the hemispheres have "communication" with imaginary realities?

Dec 5, 2007, 2:52 am

Julian Jaynes most certainly does. In the book I have a whole section on the implications of Jaynes' pioneering theory. His work is still cited regularaly and to my knowledge no counter-theory has ever been proposed. In a similar way to the fact that a good deal of fascinating research in quantum physics never makes its way through to the popularist psychi the same resistance seems to apply to Jaynes' theory.
You may be interested to know that the President of the Julian Jaynes Society is a member of this Group so I am hoping that we will, in due course, have some fascinating insights form him with regard to JJ and my theory.
If I am given the opportunity I will discuss JJ's theory in my radio interview tonight on Kerrang Radio.

Jan 25, 2008, 10:00 pm

Thanks for the response and my apologies for tardiness on my part. I look forward to purchasing your book sooner rather than later. You are on the wish list.
Here is something to consider in relation to my initial question then; would you think that a person with a truly bicameral mind would witness a different end than a person with a "modern" mind?
Would it have been possible for them to take sneak peaks into their "heaven" simply because of their brain structure?
A similar issue might be a thought on how chemicals such as lsd seem to also give similar sneak peaks. I would assume (forgive me) that issues such as that are covered as well?

Jan 27, 2008, 8:40 am

Good to hear from you again. I assume that you mean a person with a unicameral mind rather than bicameral because as I understand it (and I may be wrong) the issue that JJ argued was that we evolved from unicameral to bicameral around 3,000 years ago. As such modern man is bicameral. If that is the case then I think that somebody with a unicamaral mind would be similar to a modern-day schizophrenic in that schizophrenics, in my opinion, perceive a far broader spectrum of reality than non-schizophrenics. It is as if their 'reducing valve' (as Bergson termed it) is not functioning correctly. As such they would 'see heaven' as you you interestingly describe it.

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