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Hot take: Unreliable narrators

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1lorannen
Edited: Apr 23, 2019, 3:20 pm

Have any favorite unreliable narrators, or favorite books (either because or in spite of) that feature unreliable narrators?

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2amysisson
Apr 16, 2019, 12:55 pm

We Were Liars by E. Lockhart and Code Name Verity by Elizabeth Wein (I think that qualifies?) are the two that immediately come to mind. I've read both of those books twice, they're so good.

3lorax
Apr 16, 2019, 1:54 pm

The much lamented Gene Wolfe is on my mind today, and he was the master of the unreliable narrator. Obvious examples are Severian in the Book of the New Sun - he has perfect memory, or so he claims, but he lies and omits key details - and Latro in Soldier of the Mist and sequels, who cannot remember more than a day; he writes the truth, as he sees it, but anything he doesn't write is lost both to him and the reader. Wolfe's narrators are unreliable, but Wolfe plays fair - if you read very carefully with full attention to detail, you can figure out what's really going on.

New Sun is Wolfe's masterwork, but the "Soldier" books are far more accessible.

4lilisin
Apr 18, 2019, 4:11 am

Tara Westover in Educated: A Memoir. I can't seem to trust what she wrote no matter how acclaimed the memoir has come to be.

5Cecrow
Apr 18, 2019, 7:45 am

The Turn of the Screw is a famous example.

Baudolino, by Umberto Eco. The Island of the Day Before is also suspect.

Lolita, for sure.

Seconding Gene Wolfe, all the way.

Can we also say Herodotus? ;)

6amysisson
Apr 18, 2019, 2:19 pm

>4 lilisin:

It's not meant as an artistic choice in that book, is it? I mean, I'm assuming the author is claiming the book is truthful?

7Jarandel
Apr 18, 2019, 4:05 pm

Beside the already mentioned Gene Wolfe, other unreliable narrators I enjoyed were in Use of Weapons by Iain M. Banks and The Prestige by Christopher Priest.

8lilisin
Apr 19, 2019, 3:25 am

>6 amysisson:

Because it is a memoir we sure hope the author is being truthful about everything but I just couldn't seem to trust her. The book rubbed me the wrong way because I couldn't understand why she wrote it. And so questioning her motivation made me question her.

9andyl
Apr 19, 2019, 6:39 am

>7 Jarandel:
I would go for The Affirmation by Priest. Maybe also The Wasp Factory by Iain Banks.

10krazy4katz
Apr 19, 2019, 8:53 pm

>8 lilisin: Hi.
I guess I assume she wrote it because she needed to get the story out of her in order to heal. Also, in the area she lives in, there are other people who are in similar situations. Perhaps she thought it would help. It's true that she doesn't seem to have any other job, so perhaps she just wants to be a writer. In the book she seems to document instances when her memory differs from that of her siblings. That made me think that she was being as truthful as she could be. It's certainly possible that she may have gotten some things wrong that happened when she was very young, but no one has come out and said she is a liar.

11lesmel
Apr 22, 2019, 10:10 pm

>10 krazy4katz: Her parents pretty much have called her a liar...through a lawyer. And that is odd considering her father's supposed views of society & the law.

12krazy4katz
Apr 23, 2019, 1:24 pm

>11 lesmel: Interesting. I didn't know that. I wonder what her siblings have said.

13JanesList
Apr 23, 2019, 9:24 pm

The Debt to Pleasure by John Lanchester. A travelling food critique is exactly NOT what this book is about. I read it slowly at first, because I'd told a friend I'd read it. Then I got to a point where it really caught on, and I read it to thee end, and the promptly read it again.

14Cariola
Edited: Apr 23, 2019, 10:35 pm

Gillespie and I by Jane Harris. It's a Victorian-era mystery set in Scotland, mostly in the home of a painter. The female narrator of this strange story seems totally trustworthy--until you hit the part where you go, "Wait a minute! What just happened?" and start paging backwards. then read it over again.

15BookNeurd
Apr 24, 2019, 2:05 am

John in A Prayer For Owen Meany. I felt like he was up to something through the entire book. Turned out to be a real Joseph... you know?

17thesmellofbooks
Apr 24, 2019, 10:26 am

A bleak but compelling read is His Bloody Project by Graeme Macrae Burnet. The text is composed of several (fictional) historical documents, including witness statements, trial records, and especially a memoir written by the accused at the behest of his attorney. The accused, a seventeen year old Highland boy living in poverty in a family increasingly persecuted by the local constable, never denies his culpability. The story that unfolds is how this apparently gentle young man came to commit a brutal murder.

18Cariola
Apr 24, 2019, 11:04 am

>17 thesmellofbooks: Loved this one, too! It was terrific on audio.

19schmootc
Edited: Apr 24, 2019, 1:19 pm

On the topic of Educated, her parents have said exactly what I would expect them to say. Having grown up in Southern Idaho, not far from where she grew up, I also have to say that I believe everything in the book.

I finished Sometimes I Lie not that long ago and enjoyed it until the end, which just completely confused me. I'm also currently reading My Lovely Wife and though I don't know the narrator is unreliable, I'm suspicious. I think maybe I need to stay away from them for a while because I just feel betrayed by this last one for some reason. Which is strange because the dude isn't real!

20foggidawn
Apr 24, 2019, 1:54 pm

My favorite unreliable narrator is Eugenides from The Thief by Megan Whalen Turner. I almost feel as if I'm giving something away by stating that he is one, though. There are some amazing plot twists in that series!

Working with elementary-aged kids, I like to use Jon Scieszka's The True Story of the Three Little Pigs as an example of a picture book with an unreliable narrator.

21denni
Apr 25, 2019, 2:53 am

Atonement by Ian McEwan - Briony is a thoroughly slippy narrator.

22kylios
Apr 25, 2019, 5:58 pm

Too Like the Lightning, by Ada Palmer! I loved this series.. it's so clever and has many layers, and you can hardly trust anything the narrator says

23HarpersOmah
Edited: Apr 25, 2019, 6:25 pm

The butler Stevens in the Remains of the Day uses stiff and controlled language to tell his supposed life story because he's ashamed of the terrible choices he made in his life, such as supporting Hitler, choosing to ignore his father's illness, and deliberately turning his back on an opportunity to be loved by a good woman.

24laurak
Apr 25, 2019, 9:20 pm

I really enjoyed An Instance of the Fingerpost, by Iain Pears. Multiple unreliable narrators, whose accounts, taken together, comprise the novel.

25anglemark
Apr 26, 2019, 6:54 am

Can I really trust anything you write in this thread?

26Cecrow
Apr 26, 2019, 7:47 am

>25 anglemark:, absolutely! I have perfect recall and I am honest to a fault. I also own a $1M yacht.

27sturlington
Apr 26, 2019, 9:35 am

My favorite was already given in >13 JanesList: (The Debt to Pleasure by John Lanchester), so I'll add Assumption by Percival Everett. That's another book that, when you finish it, you'll immediately want to go back and reread it.

28adam.currey
Apr 29, 2019, 4:07 am

Ooh good topic. A recent revelation for me - I never knew of such a thing until I read The Woman In The Window by A.J. Finn and The Girl On The Train by Paula Hawkins recently. Loved them and loved the unreliable narrator device.

29Cariola
May 3, 2019, 2:03 pm

Just finished one: The Boswell Brothers by Philkip Baruth.

30Euryale
May 3, 2019, 2:30 pm

Definitely We Have Always Lived in the Castle. Merricat gives you a perfectly frank description of herself in the first paragraph, then leads you off where she wants you anyway.