THE DEEP ONES: Autumn 2019 Planning Thread

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THE DEEP ONES: Autumn 2019 Planning Thread

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Sep 3, 2019, 1:32pm

This thread is for nominations and voting on stories for inclusion in the October-December weekly discussion reads in this group. Please feel free to draw on the ongoing brainstorming thread for nominations, but don't limit yourself to items discussed there.

As in past rounds, any story that gets more "No" than "Yes" votes won't make the cut; otherwise they'll be prioritized according to net-yes-minus-no, and the final list will be in OPD sequence. Ties will be broken in favor of author and period variety.

To propose a story for voting, place the title and author between HTML-style angle-bracket tags. The open tag says vote (in brackets); the close tag says /vote (ditto). Multiple polls seem to need multiple posts. If you put the name of the author in double square brackets, it will make it a linked "touchstone" for the LT database, and first publication dates of nominated stories are appreciated. Also welcome are remarks about the story, the author, and your nomination motives, and/or a link to an online version.

You can see a sortable list of all previous discussions here. A persistent brainstorming thread is here. Nominations repeating old discussions will be disqualified, but revival of dormant discussion threads is always welcome. "That is not dead which can eternal lie," etc.

VOTING is scheduled to END on the Autumn Equinox: Monday, September 23.

Edited: Sep 3, 2019, 1:37pm

Vote: "The New You," Kit Reed, 1962

Current tally: Yes 5, No 2, Undecided 1
A holdover nominee from last quarter.

elenchus sez: Available from LOA in both the collection The Future is Female! and online as a Story of the Week.

A doppelgaenger tale, in the style of Serling's Twlight Zone or perhaps Alfred Hitchcock Presents.

LOA editors wrote about her novel, seemingly related in theme if not strictly the same material:
Fifteen years ago Kit Reed published her twenty-second novel, the darkly satirical Thinner than Thou, which imagined a near future when a new religion has formed around weight loss and body consciousness. The advance notices, most of them filled with praise, prepared readers for a disturbing read. “Unsettling, sometimes appalling: satire edging remorselessly toward reality,” concluded the notice in Kirkus Reviews. The starred review in Booklist agreed that “Reed’s visionary tale is brilliant, though at times painful to read.”

Sep 3, 2019, 1:37pm

Vote: Daniel Mills, "MS Found in a Chicago Hotel Room" (2012)

Current tally: Yes 6, No 1, Undecided 1
Another holdover from last quarter.

AndreasJ sez: Jauniste story. Unfortunately not available online, but included in A Season in Carcosa and The Lord Came at Twilight, the former of which is available in both as an e-book and in paper.

Sep 3, 2019, 1:40pm

Vote: "No. 252 Rue M. le Prince" by Ralph Adams Cram (1895)

Current tally: Yes 10, No 0
Much-anthologized and available online.

Sep 3, 2019, 1:43pm

Vote: "Jerusalem's Lot" by Stephen King (1978)

Current tally: Yes 7, No 2, Undecided 1
Nominated once or twice previously, but never a winner. It is one of King's few overtly Lovecraftian tales.

Edited: Sep 3, 2019, 2:30pm

Vote: "The Bagheeta" by Val Lewton (1930)

Current tally: Yes 7, No 1, Undecided 1
The inspiration for Lewton's classic film, CAT PEOPLE. Available in several anthologies, including Weird Tales: The Magazine That Never Dies.

Sep 3, 2019, 9:26pm

Vote: "Call Not Their Names" by Everil Worrell (1954)

Current tally: Yes 4, No 2, Undecided 2
Found in The Century's Best Horror Fiction: Volume Two and Weird Tales: 32 Unearthed Terrors

Edited: Sep 4, 2019, 8:50am

Vote: "Same Time, Same Place" by Mervyn Peake (1963)

Current tally: Yes 11, No 1
Peake is, of course, the author of the Gormenghast Trilogy. This tale has been included in many anthologies, including The Weird: A Compendium of Strange and Dark Stories.

Sep 4, 2019, 2:46am

Vote: Mariana Enríquez, "Spiderweb" (2015)

Current tally: Yes 7, No 2
I thought Enríquez' "The Intoxicated Years" was one of the highlights of the spring selection, so I'm nominating the other story of hers I can find online. Somewhat more conventionally Weird, perhaps.

Sep 4, 2019, 3:32pm

>8 KentonSem:

I had thought of nominating that myself, after seeing it in The Weird.

Sep 4, 2019, 4:14pm

>10 elenchus:

Somehow I missed it being in The Weird until I was looking at the table of contents last night. Best part is that I've never read it. New Peake, as far as I'm concerned!

Edited: Sep 11, 2019, 2:39pm

Vote: "The Great Lover", Dan Simmons (1993).

Current tally: Yes 5, No 3, Undecided 2
Simmons' clever reworking of real World War One poets into a fictional poet's work. Set in WWI with, as I recall, a muse of death. The downside is that it's a short novel solely available in Lovedeath.

Edited: Sep 11, 2019, 10:05am

Just a bump. Still time to nominate a story. Still time to vote. If you're a Lurker at the Threshold, why not jump in? You're not committing to anything, but perhaps you've got that one great tale in mind that we really should tackle. You just need an account, and those are free. Instructions on how to nominate are up above, or simply ask for help. Join us...

Edited: Sep 11, 2019, 11:50am

Vote: The Courtyard by Alan Moore (1994)

Current tally: Yes 6, No 3
This one is a little tricky to find. The original short story is in The Starry Wisdom, and it was later (2003) made into a two-issue comic book. The two comics were subsequently colorized and combined into a single volume (2009). Any format should serve for purposes of discussion.

This story set in Red Hook was later developed further in Moore's Neonomicon and ultimately connects with the Providence comics.

Bibliographic references for the comics versions of The Courtyard seem most complete in the Wikipedia article:

Sep 11, 2019, 12:03pm

Vote: "The Guardian of the Book" by Henry Hasse (1937)

Current tally: Yes 4, No 2, Undecided 2
Originally published in Weird Tales, bibliography at

Although we haven't read him, Hasse was a fairly prolific author of short weird fiction over the years. This story had enough merit to be repeatedly anthologized and translated into both Italian and German.

Sep 11, 2019, 12:41pm

Vote: "Red Jacks Wild" by Kim Newman (2015)

Current tally: Yes 5, No 2
Commissioned for Weird Tales as a sequel to Robert Bloch's "Yours Truly, Jack the Ripper". Actually first published in Sherlock Holmes Mystery Magazine.

Reprinted in Anno Dracula 1899 and other stories (2017).

Edited: Sep 11, 2019, 2:38pm

Vote: "The Glass Eye", John Keir Cross (1944)

Current tally: Yes 6, No 3
A writer I was unfamiliar until I came across his "Music When Soft Voices Die". A lot of his work was adapted for the BBC and other tv outlets. This comes from his collection The Other Passenger: 18 Strange Stories which developed his theory of "terror in needlepoint", stories focused on common household objects.

Valancourt Books just republished this collection in 2017. Most of the stories haven't been reprinted elsewhere, but this one seems to have been widely anthologized. A warning: the Encyclopedia of Fantasy says it isn't a truly supernatural tale.

Sep 11, 2019, 4:09pm

Vote: "The Monkey's Paw" by W.W. Jacobs (1902)

Current tally: Yes 9, No 1
A weird classic. Anthologized to infinity and available online.

Edited: Sep 11, 2019, 4:16pm

Vote: "The Murders in the Rue Morgue" by Edgar Allan Poe (1841)

Current tally: Yes 10, No 1
The first modern detective story, perhaps. Widely available, including online.

Sep 11, 2019, 5:27pm

It seems odd that we haven't discussed either of "Monkey's Paw" or "Rue Morgue" ... but there's a lot out there!

I suppose it also says something about our approach: classics are always welcome, but we haven't constrained ourselves to the tried-and-true, much to the improvement of our discussions, I think.

Sep 11, 2019, 7:16pm

Vote: "The Attic Express", Alex Hamilton (1963)

Current tally: Yes 4, No 2, Undecided 1
Model train terror. This is Hamilton's most anthologized story. Known mostly, on his death, as an interviewer of authors and witty introduction writer, his weird fiction has the praise of Ramsey Campbell.

Sep 12, 2019, 5:48pm

Vote: "The Adder" by Fred Chappell (1989)

Current tally: Yes 6, No 2
A story about the Necronomicon. First published in Deathrealm then reprinted in More Shapes Than One. Anthologised in Cthulhu 2000 and in The Necronomicon (Call of Cthulhu Fiction, ed. Robert M. Price)

Sep 15, 2019, 2:33pm

Vote: Saki, "Sredni Vashtar" (1910)

Current tally: Yes 13, No 0
A very brief tale of implicit weirdness, widely anthologized, incl in The Weird, and available online.

Sep 19, 2019, 10:33am

There's still time for pirates to vote on these nominations. With the weekend available, a new nominee or two might even succeed.

Sep 23, 2019, 10:02am

Voting will close in about four hours, when I will have a chance to start tabulating.

Sep 23, 2019, 1:40pm

Voting closed: tallying now.