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Sep 5, 2019, 7:05am

Have I missed something somewhere? On the front page of the latest Folio Magazine, included with the parcel of new books I ordered yesterday: "How Folio's stunning edition of Dracula breathes new life into this gothic classic." An article inside tells me it's a Limited Edition of 750. There are a few pictures (it seems to be slipcased rather than entombed) and we are informed it will be available from 9 October - I'm guessing maybe a couple of weeks at most before the Christmas Collection competes for our wallets.

Sep 5, 2019, 7:44am

Do LEs normally come the same day as a regular release? Placed my Fall order and already thinking about the next release!

Sep 5, 2019, 8:20am

>1 folio_books:

Might be the first time I haven't ordered from the Autumn Collection, so I won't see the magazine. Any chance that someone can scan the pages?

Sep 5, 2019, 9:03am

No tomb. What an opportunity for cheesy special effects missed. Tell me the slipcase has ragged toothmarks through which you can see a bloody cover.

Sep 5, 2019, 9:17am

>4 Jayked: Tell me the slipcase has ragged toothmarks through which you can see a bloody cover.

Another opportunity missed, I fear. But it's bound in red leather (geddit?) and the slipcase features a drawing of a bat silhouetted against the moon.

Edited: Sep 5, 2019, 11:52am

Well, there is serious competition from past fine press releases on that title. Not sure it can beat the LEC.

And snail mail for an announcement, really ? Tsss.

Sep 5, 2019, 6:29pm

It would have to go some to beat the Amaranthine special-special edition, which contains soil from transylvania and the blood of the employees mixed in with some of the ink!

Sep 5, 2019, 6:46pm

>7 Uppernorwood:
That was just tacky.

Sep 5, 2019, 7:08pm

>7 Uppernorwood:

If only I'd had a stake in that.

Sep 5, 2019, 7:28pm

This thread needs pics!

Edited: Sep 5, 2019, 7:44pm

>10 Diglot:
Details of the Amaranthine "bloody" Dracula can be seen here:-
I am actually looking forward to the FS LE of Dracula, as my only copy is the four-square edition, which is a quite simple hardcover book.

Sep 5, 2019, 10:14pm

I really love my recent FS edition of Dracula but I can certainly be talked into a LE especially if it isn’t quite as ridiculous as the afore mentioned Amaranthine LE.

Sep 5, 2019, 11:04pm

>11 wcarter: Thanks for the link. I was unaware of Amaranthine Books.

Sep 6, 2019, 1:47am

Is the Dracula LE going to have the same art as the FS Dracula 2008 book?

Sep 6, 2019, 3:25am

I find it a bit peculiar that they're doing a book they already did in a regular edition not that long ago. Why not (finally!) The Phantom of the Opera if they wanted to move in this direction with their limited editions?

Sep 6, 2019, 6:09am

>14 Rowoon: Is the Dracula LE going to have the same art as the FS Dracula 2008 book?

No, it's a new illustrator, Angela Barrett. Assuming the examples in the magazine are hers, they're full-page, soft colours, an overall muted, murky feel. They have elaborate detailed wide monochrome borders. I think I'm going to like them. No, I'm not going to scan them, for copyright reasons, but Folio customers will be receiving their own copies very soon anyway. And although I was never a fan of the original text (I find Stoker overrated) the LE is a must for me. It's a classic genre-defining, genre-beginning work.

>15 SF-72: I find it a bit peculiar that they're doing a book they already did in a regular edition not that long ago.

Indeed, a bit.

>15 SF-72: Why not (finally!) The Phantom of the Opera

Please Folio, if and when you finally cave in to popular pressure on this title, please, not an LE. I could much more easily ignore a standard edition. Apologies to his fans on this forum but I find Gaston Leroux completely unreadable, and I've tried on several occasions.

Sep 6, 2019, 6:41am

I am very excited for Dracula to be an LE. I believe Phantom should get a Folio Edition, but like folio_books I wasn't thrilled by the writing. I would still buy it.

Sep 6, 2019, 12:33pm

Would anyone be willing to post or send me the images/text about this edition from the magazine? I'm kind of desperate to see it and won't be placing an order for a while.

Sep 6, 2019, 1:34pm

>16 folio_books: thank you so much for the information! I think Angela Barrett was the illustrator for FS Anna Karenina so I can already picture the art style in my head.

Sep 6, 2019, 2:30pm

>16 folio_books:

If Angela Barett is the illustrator, that is indeed excellent news. She illustrated the Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, that was published by Hand and Eye Letterpress a few years ago. The illustrations were thematic and she did win several awards for the same.

Sep 6, 2019, 3:45pm

According to the article in the Folio Magazine, Angela Barett is the illustrator, I have to say that the illustrations they have in there are very nice, certainly in tune with the contents of the book. Unfortunately the photo of the book itself is very tiny - maybe inch and a half wide by an inch and a half tall and it's not possible to see that kind of colors are used, though the exterior of the slipcover has an image of a hazy moon with a bat flying through the its light - I really like it - much harder to see what's on the books cover as the photo is too small - I wonder why the book itself didn't warrant a larger picture?

Sep 6, 2019, 7:10pm

No, apparently they sealed the inked so it was no longer tacky (sorry).

In all seriousness I think its suitably macabre, but the bright red fuzzy cover and glow in the dark parts ARE a bit tacky.

Sep 17, 2019, 8:14pm

Hello everyone!

Sorry to barge in like this, but I'm relatively new here and I've just recently started using my account (although I've been following this group for months now! And I absolutely love all of the hilarious discussion around the supposed 'mole', lol!)

I'm happy to - hopefully - be part of such a like-minded group of people who love TFS as much as I do. I've been collecting folios ever since 2017 and began my collection with American Gods, which has now grown to over 50 folios. (amateur numbers, I know, I've seen your impressive shelfies!)

So, that's a bit about me for now. :) I realise that this may be the wrong place to post this, and I completely understand if the admin deletes the post, but I originally came to inquire about the Dracula LE coming soon in October and was hoping any of you might kindly answer.

Have any of you had any experience in successfully reserving a specific number limitation of a LE from Folio? I inquired via Twitter and they said yes, it would be possible, but the following was the reply I got from customer service:

"Thank you for your email and interest in the forthcoming Limited Edition of Dracula.

I'm sorry to say that we aren't taking orders for Dracula quite yet, and further, that we can't reserve specific limitation numbers of our L.E.s. We send them out strictly on a first-in, first-out basis these days after a a number of people complained it was 'unfair' that certain people would always get the best numbers.

I am sorry to disappoint, but would seek to assure you that, from what we've seen of the new edition so far, it's really going to be something you can sink your teeth into.

Kind regards

Andrew Wagstaff
Customer Service Manager
The Folio Society

That's all for now, please excuse the long post! I wish you all a fantastic week ahead and a lovely day/afternoon/evening wherever you are.

Edited: Sep 17, 2019, 8:29pm

>23 RATBAG.:

Welcome ! Inquiring CS about LE number reservation is a clear indication of a rapidly developping case of FAD ( )

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Sep 17, 2019, 9:34pm

>23 RATBAG.:
Welcome to your new addiction and this forum.
To get a low LE number you can try ordering the moment a book is released, but even so, the numbering has been rather random, even in the last couple of years. I ordered the Kama Sutra the day it was released and received copy number 2, but I also order Gargantua & Pantagruel on day one, and received copy number 248!!
The FS (and FSD) are full of fascinating quirks and curiosities, that keep up our interest. Enjoy!

Sep 18, 2019, 3:22am

What a lovely poem! Thanks so much for the warm welcome and reference link; much appreciated!

Sep 18, 2019, 3:23am

Ah, that makes sense now. It does seem to be a random procedure *after* all. Just me and my luck then, haha.

Sep 18, 2019, 6:51am

I believe some as recently as 2017 had been able to get a requested number. I have one LE numbered 999 of 750. No such arrangement exists now.

Sep 18, 2019, 8:09am

Wow. That's unheard of. Which LE was it?

Sep 18, 2019, 8:25am

>29 RATBAG.:

Micrographia. The Gentleman decided not to purchase the title, so it was left in the warehouse... Anyway, they no longer allow members - customers I mean - to request a number, although I wonder if number 1 is predestined?

Sep 18, 2019, 8:51am

>30 The_Toad_Revolt_of84: I think I read somewhere on this forum that number 1 is reserved for the Gavron family.

Sep 18, 2019, 9:33am

>31 c_schelle: I've heard that too and instead wonder whether Copy A of the Hors de Commerce bunch is especially assigned as #1.

Sep 18, 2019, 9:45am

>32 wongie: Copy A is different from Copy 1, and is actually lettered "A". Copy B always used to go to the (d)MR as the display copy.

Sep 18, 2019, 9:52am

>33 PeterFitzGerald: Sorry, I meant whether copy A is perhaps always assigned to a specific person like copy #1 is always given to the Gavron family, maybe A always goes to the CEO or Mole?

Sep 18, 2019, 10:09am

After browsing through this site for a few months, I finally decided to join! I was hoping someone could provide a scan of just the photos of this infamous Dracula LE edition for those who don't have the magazine? I read that it has a red cover, but is it leather? Does it have hubbed spines? Does it look like the Poetic Edda?

Much love, (and hopefully this is a nice community I've joined),

Emily xx

Edited: Sep 18, 2019, 7:06pm

>16 folio_books: “I find Gaston Leroux completely unreadable.”

It is likely that you read the 1911 Alexander de Mattos translation which has been widely reprinted but also widely panned because it omitted around 100 pages of text scattered throughout the novel. So I chose to read David Coward’s 2012 unabridged translation in the Oxford World Classics edition instead.

From what I was able to learn from various sources, Mattos omitted some of the action scenes as well as some of the character-building that he apparently thought was unnecessary, making it difficult to follow the story in places.

Sep 18, 2019, 11:16am

>35 Emily_Jones51:

Copyright issues may be at play here... Does anyone think that a small image without any article include may be fine?

There's more black on the spine than red and it looks nothing like the Edda. If you like Folio books, you'll like this book.

Sep 18, 2019, 11:18am

Thank you so much Toad Revolt . The one page with the photo of the book would be fine. It's not for commercial uses, so a scan of it, especially a promotional pamphlet meant to garner interest, would be perfectly acceptable.

Sep 18, 2019, 11:52am

>36 jroger1: It is likely that you read the 1911 Alexander de Mattos translation

I really can't remember - it was years ago. In all probability it was a Penguin paperback.

I did think for a long time it may have been a simple case of a poor translation but then I bought the Folio Locked-Room Mysteries. One of the stories, as you may recall, is The Mystery of the Yellow Room by Leroux. The synopsis sounded very promising - intriguing, even - so I read it first, fully expecting to knock my unreasonable prejudice on the head. Sadly, I failed to make it as far as halfway. I don't think I'll be trying again.

Sep 18, 2019, 11:58am

>38 Emily_Jones51:

Well the concern is: You're not really supposed to have the magazine unless you order something. So... I'm not really sure where we cross the line.

Sep 18, 2019, 12:38pm

I emailed them directly and just got a reply from Colin at Folio Society, who very kindly said it was perfectly fine to upload a picture. Their customer service is so nice!

Edited: Sep 18, 2019, 2:09pm

I'm at work, and quite honestly have never posted a picture. See above for a link to my profile gallery for the Dracula LE. It's a small photo and so poor image quality, but you'll get the gist of what's to be.

Sep 18, 2019, 2:24pm

Toad Revolt, you are my favourite Toad in all of Library Thing. Thank you!!!!! This is wonderful. Now I can only wonder what the cost will be. Will you be purchasing one?

Sep 18, 2019, 2:57pm

>43 Emily_Jones51:

That's great news! I'm not really a favorite most of the time.

I have purchased three limited editions in the last month and a half. So, I will likely only purchase Dracula, if they happen to survive for a few months. Unlike Thaddeus, I still pay for the Hall, etc...

Sep 18, 2019, 4:15pm

Oh, another B&N edition a la Monte Cristo... But it will probably sell out just as fast.

Sep 18, 2019, 4:28pm

>45 elladan0891:

Well that's not fair. The B&N fake leather books feel like loose leaves in a plastic binding. I can't imagine any Folio Society book feeling like that. And then there's the insides: B&N fonts require a loupe or a microscope but Folios do not.

Sep 18, 2019, 4:38pm

Toad Revolt - Others might think different, but you're the Prince of Library Thing to me.

elladan What do you think the price will be? I'm getting the sense that people are eager to purchase it for the "exclusivity" rather than the contents. Is there some extra chapter, like Dracula's Guest, or is it a straight-up reproduction of the original text, with a leather binding to justify charging 400 GBP for it?

It seems like this move was to challenge that Amaranthine edition, which I don't know why given that Folio is in a different league in terms of size. I don't know why Frankenstein wasn't given this treatment, since it's been 200 years since its 1818 debut, and we haven't had an edition since 2004.

- Emily

Sep 18, 2019, 5:38pm

>47 Emily_Jones51: “I don’t know why Frankenstein wasn’t given this treatment.”

Easton Press also passed up an opportunity for a centennial edition of Frankenstein. Perhaps it is because the movie image of his monster is so iconic in people’s minds that illustrators are afraid to take on the responsibility of creating a new image.

Edited: Sep 18, 2019, 6:05pm

I received my order on the other side of the planet, and my Folio Magazine, yesterday, so here is a scan of all 8 pages of the article on the Dracula LE, plus an enlargement of the tiny book picture.

Edited: Sep 18, 2019, 6:04pm

>35 Emily_Jones51:
Welcome and enjoy both your growing FS collection and FSD.
All new members should read and bookmark the FSD wiki here, and may be interested in the complete list of FS books here.

Edited: Sep 18, 2019, 8:31pm

>49 wcarter:
Thanks for the scan.

Sadly, I like the marginalia much more than the colour images. Barrett has many qualities and i like very much my "Christmas Carol" from Hand and Eye Press she illustrated but i fear her style is not what i'm looking for a Dracula LE. More grimdark, less fairy tales i guess.

Sep 18, 2019, 8:17pm

>45 elladan0891: My thoughts almost exactly. The binding style just doesn't do it for me (although I could easily be persuaded to buy anyway as I'm a fan of Angela Barrett's work).

Edited: Sep 18, 2019, 10:21pm

>40 The_Toad_Revolt_of84: >41 Emily_Jones51:
FYI, several years ago, when the FSD wiki was expanded, the Folio Society gave legal approval for the FSD to reproduce any of their promotional brochures, leaflets or other literature on this LT forum, in the wiki or its links.
Never be concerned about adding any of these to a Talk thread.

Sep 18, 2019, 10:38pm

Looks hideous. Perhaps that's appropriate? Should make a killing if they launch it before Oct 31 though...

Sep 19, 2019, 3:56am

Thanks for sharing the article and pictures. My reaction is that it looks exactly as you might expect a Dracula edition to look - and that's a disappointment.

Sep 19, 2019, 4:02am

>51 Goblin_Investor:

Those are exactly my feelings - the marginalia are beautiful, the colour illustrations are partly well done (the three women and Harker), but mostly not to my taste.

Sep 19, 2019, 4:04am

>47 Emily_Jones51: Compared to other LEs, I'd be surprised to see it come in under 195GBP or over 295. It doesn't look as lavish and luxurious as e.g. Alice in Wonderland or The Wanderer, more in the league of Micrographia or the Count of Monte Cristo.

Edited: Sep 19, 2019, 6:51am

>57 Fierylunar:

I was thinking it was in that ballpark, but prices trend up slightly and it's full leather so I suppose you can never be certain.

I'm actually pleased to see some negative reaction, I might actually still get a copy even though I need to wait a month to buy it.

Sep 19, 2019, 8:08am

Thank you wcarter for the welcome, and for adding these scans! It seems there's a lot of negative reactions in the comments about the overall look of the book. And I agree with fierylunar ; the book doesn't look too luxurious, and it looks like any high price would be due to the leather binding. It's looking more and more like they're just reacting to the Amaranthine edition, whose colour palette (not the weird blood writing in it) is more attention-grabbing. From the covers only, this just looks like a leather-bound edition of a Barnes and Noble edition collector's edition.

Is anyone here guaranteed to buy it? If so, is it only because it's a Folio brand, or because you love it?

Sep 19, 2019, 10:22am

It's Folio; it's Dracula; it's an LE; it's leather.

There's four good reasons it'll sell, for starters.

I don't see it as a potential Mort but it's not a candidate for the next Last-Ever LE sale, either.

Sep 19, 2019, 11:49am

>47 Emily_Jones51: What do you think the price will be?

It will probably be a bit more expensive than the Monte Cristo, which was nothing more than a reprint of an older edition in a new binding. Here they commissioned new illustrations, and presumably typesetting and possibly editing are also new. But it doesn't look like an expensive LE to me, so it shouldn't be on the high end of price scale.

I'm getting the sense that people are eager to purchase it for the "exclusivity" rather than the contents

Personally, I couldn't care less about exclusivity of limited editions so I might be downplaying popularity of such sentiment, but somehow I think there are not that many people among the devotees who buy for exclusivity without caring about actual contents, if caring about exclusivity at all.

>46 treereader:
I was referring to the binding's pedestrian, predictable and mainstream look that appears not to be burdened by weight of any talent. At least from afar, it just looks like more like a B&N than a Folio.

>59 Emily_Jones51: they're just reacting to the Amaranthine edition

I seriously doubt that's the case. That would be like BMW reacting to some guy's custom pimpmobiles he builds out of his garage.

Sep 19, 2019, 1:04pm

Folio as BMW? Now there's a laugh... Boxy 1990s Fords with paint jobs, most of them.

Sep 19, 2019, 1:11pm

>62 LolaWalser:

I love the boxy vehicles, especially Ford! I'd actually love to have a Jeep Wagoneer.

Sep 19, 2019, 1:40pm

>62 LolaWalser: Really? Do you then like boxy 90s Fords with paint jobs or just being a masochist? ;)

The comparison was stressing more the relatively big established company vs mom & pop shop aspect, but the simile works otherwise too. Folios are better than typical trade hardcovers and nasty paperbacks, but not quite the pinnacle of bookmaking art. Most Folios are 3 series BMWs or Audi A4s, some are 5 series, X5s, X6s etc.

Sep 19, 2019, 1:53pm

>64 elladan0891:

I'm just here to ensure the "devotees" doesn't turn into a cult...

But far be it from me to take the car analogy too far. I've been stranded by Folios fancy-looking tin cans before. :)

Sep 19, 2019, 2:05pm

General question for everyone: On a scale from 1 to 10, how successful/much do you think what is discussed/argued/complained/suggested here impacts or warrants a change from Folio? A compliant change, I mean. Actually taking what is said into consideration and acting upon it to improve the overall customer convenience.

Sep 19, 2019, 2:16pm

Hmmm, maybe a 1 or 2. I was reading through the older posts here, and it seems some of the suggestions were applied (i.e. Bronte sisters books, travel books, Agatha Christie, etc.). However, as of this past collection, the editor(s) seem to be living in their own world in terms of their design and selections. I saw on here that a lot of you were pining for the Watership Down book, and this fell through.

And I don't know who is choosing the lime green look: Middlemarch, Midnight in the Garden, Ubik, Great Expectations, etc. :-D

Sep 19, 2019, 2:28pm

>66 RATBAG.:
We know that someone (the infamous mole) reads this forum, but we represent only a small part of their customer base. A more effective strategy is to send them an email detailing why you think they should publish a certain book.

Two or three years ago I suggested that they publish “Gargantua and Pantagruel” with all of Gustave Dore’s 700+ Illustrations. My reason was that no such edition had ever been published in the English language. A year or two later it appeared as an LE. I can’t be sure my email was the reason, but I’m sure they take suggestions seriously.

Sep 19, 2019, 2:33pm

>66 RATBAG.: I don't think what we discuss here impacts FS policy/creative process much if at all, and neither do I believe it should. We're a very small group of people from completely different parts of the world, backgrounds and interests, and every new release is met with dismay, anger, disappointment and enthousiasm in the same thread. To base future decisions on that would be like giving the map to someone without sense of direction. FSD is a group of enthousiasts and (potential) FS customers, but not necessarily the perfect demographic to base enterprise decisions on.

Sep 19, 2019, 2:37pm

Good point! And what a marvelous edition it turned out to be! :)

Sep 19, 2019, 2:38pm

Perfectly right and realistic, I guess it's impossible to please everyone. :)

Sep 19, 2019, 3:59pm

To the wonderful wcarter, is it possible to provide a scan of the Tenant of Wildfell Hall? Is there a similar blurb about it, like with the Dracula LE?

Also, I'm on the fence about the Dracula LE, and was wondering if the monitors of this Folio group, i.e. wcarter, folio_books, Toad Revolt, and anyone else I missed (sorry, I don't know all your names yet!) are 100% going to purchase it? I think if you do, I should probably purchase it too as it would be worth it.

Edited: Sep 19, 2019, 4:23pm

>72 Emily_Jones51:

I wouldn't classify myself as a monitor. I'm pretty active whilst my project workload is modest at work. However, you'll find this is a particularly helpful group for the most part, especially willing to help you part with your money for wonderful books.

I would never purchase a book, that's an LE, unless I absolutely want it or love it. It's different with standard editions, where having space is really the only restriction. To answer your question, I need to see more from this book to know whether or not I will buy it. It's likely, that I would considering the genre, but if it's priced out of its market, it can wait.

I should add a qualifier here, as I've been burned by the previous statement before. If your inclinations are high, it can be an awful burn if you neglect to buy the book in question. It's far better to be broke than to not have the book.

Sep 19, 2019, 4:33pm

It's helpful that few LEs sell out without our being given ample warning that the number of copies left for sale is fast diminishing. The only glaring exception that comes to mind is the LE of Terry Pratchett's Mort, which was out of stock long before many prospective purchasers even knew it existed: I'll be surprised if anything like that happens again at all soon.

Sep 19, 2019, 5:38pm

>59 Emily_Jones51:
If the FS is compared to a car, surely it should be a Jaguar for the standard editions, and a Rolls-Royce or Bentley for the LEs, at least they are made in Britain although owned by Indians and Germans. The Kama Sutra LE could be an Aston-Martin, while Pomona LE could be a Bristol.

Sep 19, 2019, 5:44pm

> 75 and what would be the Tesla?

Sep 19, 2019, 5:57pm

Barnes & Noble :)

Sep 19, 2019, 5:59pm

In my humble opinion, if Folio wants to sell out in less than 12 hours on a LE, they should make it a Stephen King one.

Edited: Sep 19, 2019, 8:10pm

>78 RATBAG.:

Suntup is already on that segment and various horror publishers, but yes, it would fly out off the shelves. Horror is a popular genre with a devoted fanbase. Even Arion has a Shirley Jackson.

Sep 19, 2019, 8:14pm

>76 RRCBS: "and what would be the Tesla?"

"Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" :D

Sep 19, 2019, 9:10pm

>80 Goblin_Investor: in e-book format

Sep 19, 2019, 10:46pm

>72 Emily_Jones51:
Tenant of Wildfell Hall was published by the FS 1966 and 1991.
There should be references to it in the relevant prospectuses that can be downloaded from the FSD wiki here.
It is a good idea to check the wiki for information before asking here.

Sep 20, 2019, 2:38am

>82 wcarter: I think Emily may have been asking about the new edition being released by FS, and wanting to know if it was also featured in the latest Folio Magazine

Sep 20, 2019, 2:50am

I have a question regarding LE's, as I have never purchased one and am kicking myself for not taking the plunge with The Odes of Horace, do FS usually post LE's on their website on the day they are available for purchase? Or do they put them on beforehand so that everyone can review the book and all of the details and then hit some magic button allowing purchase on the release date?

Edited: Sep 20, 2019, 3:01am

>84 DejaVoo:

I've not been watching very closely lately, but once LEs appear on the regular website they're available for purchase. I think it's true to say that they've often appeared there when we weren't particularly expecting them, i.e. without advance publicity at least in the matter of when they would show up. The first copies haven't always been available for immediate despatch, and if that's the case there's normally a note to say when shipments will start.

Edited: Sep 20, 2019, 4:07am

>72 Emily_Jones51: >82 wcarter:
Sorry, I checked the Folio Magazine and could find no reference to a forthcoming new edition.
The old editions will be much cheaper than any new edition, and probably just as good.
The 1991 edition was part of a set (see below) that was reprinted several times. It can be purchased for as little as £60.

Now we are really off topic!!!

Sep 20, 2019, 5:43am

>86 wcarter: Ann Bronte is buried in Scarborough just a few miles south of Whitby. That should take us back on topic!

Sep 20, 2019, 8:20am

Thank you so much wcarter . I really was excited that they would have made a new Bronte book in line with the current 2. That set you featured is really gorgeous; I will have to take a look at that.

Edited: Sep 20, 2019, 8:39am

>88 Emily_Jones51:

On page 4 of the magazine, on the bottom, SNEAK PEEK - coming 'January 2020' - by popular request - The Tenant of Wildfell Hall. It is in series with Jane Eyre and Wuthering Heights.

The bigger news here is, January. The releases are something of a question now. I think they are going to continue doing fewer in the seasonal collections, and more randomly released. I like it.

Sep 20, 2019, 8:50am

I really like their random releases, and the re-releases, instead of waiting 4 times a year. However, do they provide a picture of the book?

Also, When / which months do they release books? I know there's an autumn (September) and a Christmas release (October), but what about the others?

Sep 20, 2019, 9:15am

>90 Emily_Jones51: It used to be a February and a May collection, but last few years there have been titles interspersed as well.

Sep 20, 2019, 10:16am

Thanks so much. Just a side question: Have the Rainbow books ever been re-printed? Or is the current set of Rainbow books the first and only printing?

Sep 20, 2019, 12:00pm

>92 Emily_Jones51:

The books were released over a period of several years, and while new additions were coming along the early ones were reprinted to keep the whole series available. Once the last Fairy Books were published, the reprinting stopped. That's the main reason why prices vary so much - the first books were reprinted, several times I think in some instances, while the last titles didn't get reprinted at all and so are much less common.

The same thing happened with Patrick O'Brian's series of 20 novels, and prices on the secondary market have gone the same way with those: early books easy to find and cheap, later ones fetching three-figure sums.

Oct 2, 2019, 3:02pm

Is Folio Society not doing any promotional work on their social media or website to promote the upcoming Dracula LE? Or do they just release it on Oct. 8 and don't really care about generating hype for it.

Just curious, as they still haven't posted a price yet. I really hope it's priced so fans of the book can purchase it, and not jack the price up for some stupid "exclusivity" "limited edition" numbers that appeals to dumb dumbs who love to throw their money away. Whether you pay $100 or $1000 for the same product, it's still the same product. ;-)

xx Emily

Oct 2, 2019, 5:13pm

>94 Emily_Jones51: Or do they just release it on Oct. 8 and don't really care about generating hype for it.

That's often the way with Folio LEs - we're generally aware that they're coming but often don't even know exactly when, and then someone here will spot that the LE has arrived on the website and post a link. Then orders start being placed, and the copies get sold over a period somewhere between twelve hours and a decade or so.

Oct 2, 2019, 5:36pm

>95 terebinth: It does encourage regular checking the site to get early access. The hype starts later on: social media follow a day or two after the LE goes live on the site, snailmail follows anywhere between 2-5 days later.

Oct 2, 2019, 6:02pm

>96 Fierylunar: I'm sure you meant 2-5 MONTHS later.

Oct 2, 2019, 7:16pm

>95 terebinth: "Then orders start being placed, and the copies get sold over a period somewhere between twelve hours and a decade or so."

What a business when you think about it. Arion does worse with 20+ years of catalogue, but still.

Oct 3, 2019, 3:10am

Well, Folio are inconsistent in their marketing for LEs. Studies from Nature made a good amount of noise, and it had a nice couple of videos promoting it.

Book of The New Sun was announced out of nowhere (even though we knew via Neil Gaiman that it was coming), but even then: 0 marketing.

And now, for

Any estimates on the price?

Edited: Oct 3, 2019, 3:51am

>99 RATBAG.:

If someone at Folio Towers had a reasonably accurate idea of how sales of each of those titles would go, it seems to me their marketing strategies were well judged: the books it's worth spending time and effort on promoting are those that won't sell out in the first few months.

Sorting through clutter in my now just about completed library I picked up an attractive postcard announcing that the first advance copy of a forthcoming Folio LE had just been received, that "demand... has so far been high", and inviting pre-orders. The book? The Temple of Flora, which, as Folio-watchers who've been around a while will know, needed all the help it could get, as the initial limitation of 1980 copies was reduced at a stroke to 600 in response to modest sales. (Hmm, I wonder whether, if LE sales had begun back then. they would just have bound all the books and eventually cleared them at half price, rather than selling a portfolio of the colour plates and presumably pulping 1380 sets of sheets of the text).

Oct 3, 2019, 5:39am

>99 RATBAG.: To be fair, any money spent marketing Book of the New Sun would have been a waste of resources, given it sold out in a few days anyway.

Oct 3, 2019, 11:51am


Oct 3, 2019, 1:34pm

On social media it seems Folio isn't doing any marketing for it at all. The price and pictures of the item won't be released until Oct. 8. BOOOOO!!!!!! BOOOOOUUUURRRNNSSS!

;-) Emily

Oct 3, 2019, 1:35pm

In terms of pricing, I reckon we're looking at 4-500 GBP, especially as they know we're all stupid enough to pay that much for a limited edition (I think I might be included in that lot - urgh!!!!!)

Oct 3, 2019, 1:40pm

>104 Emily_Jones51:

You might be pleasantly surprised. My guess would be less than that, even accounting for the leather.

Oct 3, 2019, 4:10pm

Thank you folio books. As one of the gurus here on LT, what do you think it will be priced at? In this case, I really hope you're right!!!!!!

xx Emily

Oct 3, 2019, 4:47pm

>106 Emily_Jones51:

I thank you for the compliment but fear it is misplaced. I'm no guru - I just guess like everyone else, occasionally successfully. Stopped watch syndrome.

As for the price, that's just a hunch - I don't think they'll make it a £400 book. I think on this occasion they're looking for it to sell fairly quickly and as others have pointed out the market for quality Draculas is already very competitive. They'll not match some already out there for sheer quality (sadly) so the price needs to be aggressive. Pick a number under 400 :)

Now watch it come in at £499!

Oct 3, 2019, 5:10pm

I really hope it's 250 GBP: that would be a fair price. It's not 4 books like that other Book of the New Sun box set, nor is it signed by anyone (I really couldn't care less if the artist signed it - doesn't make it worth hundreds more).

Tell me though, Folio books, would you purchase a copy of the Haunting of Hill House if Folio produced it? I'm planning on writing an email to them about this, and referencing people's opinions on here. Moreover, would anyone on LT purchase any of the following books if folio made them?

1. Shirley Jackson - The Haunting of Hill House
2. Ira Levin - Rosemary's Baby
3. Stephen King - It
4. Shirley Jackson - We Have Always Lived in the Castle
5. J. Sheridan Le Fanu - The Evil Guest

Oct 3, 2019, 6:07pm

You probably already know this, but Easton Press recently released The Evil Guest...not sure if it’s still available but it’s pretty nice, typical EP.

Oct 3, 2019, 9:33pm

Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, and Yes.

Oct 3, 2019, 9:33pm

I really want them to juice out more horror.

Oct 3, 2019, 9:34pm

Anything besides the Amaranthine edition we missed? Seems like the most coveted one.

Oct 3, 2019, 11:12pm

Of course I know the Easton Press has released the Evil Guest. They also published the King in Yellow. However, in typical Easton Press fashion, they don't give a **** about their customers and produced so few copies (about 50 of each), more than half of which were scooped up by con-artist ebayers who already jacked up the price tenfold. These hawkers love EP, as they give them constant business.

I'm getting to the point of never wanting to give Easton Press business again. The majority of their new books are political diatribes and crap books no one's ever heard of. Their best years are certainly behind them. Also, unlike the Folio Society who does listen to their fans, Easton never NEVER publishes books that are recommended to them (Folio on the other hand does - i.e. Tenant of Wildfell Hall, Republishing Lord of the Flies, etc.)

That's why I'm holding out hope for Folio Society. They truly are among the last fine press publishers, probably the only one who doesn't produce books so limited in number, and so high in price, that the general public can never afford them.

Back to the list, Ratbag seems to be in agreement that the aforementioned list is much to the likings of Folio's fans. Indeed, Folio should publish way more horror and gothic literature. There is such a huge market for it. I can think of at least 50 people alone who would jump at an offering of Shirley Jackson's Haunting of Hill House. Anyone else?

Oct 4, 2019, 5:05am

Centipede Press are about to release a new fine edition of The Haunting of Hill House for those of you looking for this one - details and previews are on their website (oversized, limited to 250 copies, illustrated and signed by Matt Mahurin - not yet available for preorder although supposedly coming out late October - although the publication date has already slipped once):

Edited: Oct 4, 2019, 5:51am

>108 Emily_Jones51: Tell me though, Folio books, would you purchase a copy of the Haunting of Hill House if Folio produced it? I'm planning on writing an email to them about this, and referencing people's opinions on here. Moreover, would anyone on LT purchase any of the following books if folio made them?

Of your list I'm afraid only Rosemary's Baby might appeal to me in a quality Folio edition (but not an LE). No-one could describe me as a fan of the genre, although I have an affection for classic gothic.

Edited to add: >108 Emily_Jones51: I really hope it's 250 GBP: that would be a fair price.

Always bearing in mind that my vague estimate is, at best, an educated guess. Who knows the workings of the minds of Folio's accountants?

Oct 4, 2019, 6:55am

>108 Emily_Jones51: I would get none of those, but I would not be target audience. The only reason I own the Shining is that I won a signed copy in the FS competition a few years back, and I don't even particularly like that one.

Oct 4, 2019, 7:00am

Ooh, can I see? :)

Oct 4, 2019, 7:08am

>117 RATBAG.: If that's directed at me, there's not much to see. It's the regular FS edition with a glued in piece of paper. Signed by King and Kinsella. I can upload a picture of that later, if you want.

Oct 4, 2019, 8:01am

Ah, ok; I thought they managed to get him to flat-sign it!

Oct 4, 2019, 10:27am

>116 Fierylunar:

I'm not a King fan, but from what little I've read his signed books are highly desired and quite pricey. So if you should decide you don't like it enough to keep it at some point, it should sell very well. What I do find a bit strange is the glued in piece of paper. I don't know how that would affect things.

Oct 4, 2019, 11:43am

The glued-in piece of paper occurs in some LEs, e.g. Gulliver and The Wanderer, though theirs are fancier than the plain tipped-in sheet in King. If you own one of the Kings then you're likely to be pestered now and again by would be buyers who've tracked you down through the search function. Best to keep quiet about having one.

Edited: Oct 4, 2019, 4:18pm

Emily_Jones51 I only own two Easton Press books: Dracula (which was my first and is father lovely, but I doubt it'll hold when Folio's drops next week) and Lovecraft's complete works (which I only bought because it's the only one I could find based on my research that collected everything.)

Replying to you, Emily, but I still don't know how to tag you in my reply so it shows properly. :)

Edited: I just figured out how to properly tag someone in a reply.

Edited: Oct 4, 2019, 7:21pm

>122 RATBAG.:

Prefix a greater-than symbol to the post index you want to reply to; no spaces.

> 122
>122 RATBAG.:

Oct 4, 2019, 4:49pm

>123 treereader: Wonderful, thank you!

Oct 4, 2019, 5:47pm

>122 RATBAG.:
Its all in the wiki!!!

Edited: Oct 5, 2019, 10:40am

Where does the wiki page tell you how to tag someone in a reply? I skimmed through that wall of text and must have missed it. Where should I have looked?

Edit: Never mind, I found it. I searched for “tag” when I should have searched for “reference.”

Oct 8, 2019, 5:28am

And there it is on the website, in my opinion a staggering bargain at £235. Leather bound. I expect this one to sell very quickly. My order is in!

Oct 8, 2019, 6:05am

My order is in too!

Edited: Oct 8, 2019, 6:48am

The price is indeed low considering the leather binding. The overall design is not to my liking however so I'll save for a rainy day.

Oct 8, 2019, 6:54am

I put in an order as well.

Edited: Oct 8, 2019, 6:59am

My order is in too. Excellent value and lavishly illustrated: 15 colour plates, 5 borders, 9 black-and-white tailpieces. Good work Folio and Angela Barrett! Also, happy to start purchasing LEs again now the ROW and UK prices have been realigned.

Oct 8, 2019, 6:56am

I have placed my order!

Oct 8, 2019, 7:02am

Placed my order too. I can see this selling out before some people even realise it's available. I haven't got an email, no tweets from FS and it isn't even on their home page.

Glad it's full leather. Would really struggle to justify that price if it was buckram.

Oct 8, 2019, 7:35am

I'm yet another purchaser.

Oct 8, 2019, 8:01am

Same as well, first time LE purchase.

Oct 8, 2019, 8:02am

Nothing but a bunch of enablers the lot of you.

Oct 8, 2019, 8:05am

Shipped already. Remarkably fast.

Oct 8, 2019, 8:09am

Enabled and ordered! Appreciate all the early news about this release from FSD. Not sure when it goes live more broadly.

Edited: Oct 8, 2019, 8:16am

>134 Uppernorwood: Placed my order too. I can see this selling out before some people even realise it's available. I haven't got an email, no tweets from FS and it isn't even on their home page.

At the limitation of 750 that statement seems like a reach. I will believe it when I see it. It’s really beautifully done and a lot of book at this price point. I can’t imagine any buyer being disappointed by this (apparent) gem.

Oct 8, 2019, 8:22am

I suppose I am a small minority in saying that I don't like the overall design at all. In my opinion, this production simply lacks the elegance of a fine press book. Gilded on all edge-pages, an overly busy book cover, and illustrations that don't want to match their border designs; not my cup of tea.

Oct 8, 2019, 8:25am

It's not for me, but looks like a fantastic edition.

I'd like to say how much I love threads like this, when everyone is getting excited and plunging in, and there's just a lovely atmosphere and tone to the comments.

Oct 8, 2019, 8:26am

>139 UK_History_Fan: Not sure when it goes live more broadly.

The pre-publicity (ie the Folio Magazine) gave the publication date as October 9 - tomorrow. I suspect that's when many folks will be expecting to see it, and perhaps go looking for it. The bigger surprise for me was Working which, we were told, was not to be published until October 23rd, presumably the launch date for the Christmas Collection.

Oct 8, 2019, 9:09am

>139 UK_History_Fan: it's also already up on their YouTube account.

Oct 8, 2019, 11:37am

There's a copy on ebayUK, Buy it Now £375.

Usual disclaimers!

Oct 8, 2019, 11:38am

Very average looking book with average illustrations. Very smart for FS to keep their price within reach but at the expense of producing something memorable and unique.

Oct 8, 2019, 12:15pm

I love the look and Angela Barrett is one of my favourite gothic illustrators. It’s a no-brainer. An instant purchase for me....

Oct 8, 2019, 12:22pm

Hi folks!

Ordered - hoping for 666 ;) ..

Bye for now folks!

Oct 8, 2019, 12:39pm

It looks quite nice but doesn't have the wow factor for me. I expect the website, as is often the case, doesn't do its appearance full justice and it will become more LE-ish in the flesh. What a shame there's no members' room to visit and be enabled. I note that FS are describing the binding as "leather" with no further details. Maybe at this price point morocco is out of the question. I'll be very interested to hear the verdicts when you early purchasers receive your copies (by which time, no doubt, there'll be none left for doubting Thomases like me).

Oct 8, 2019, 12:40pm

>148 Pellias: Unrelated, but I ended up with a secondhand The Book of the New Sun LE numbered 666 :)

Oct 8, 2019, 1:11pm

>148 Pellias:

A little mole once told me that 666 is the most requested limitation number.

>149 boldface: I note that FS are describing the binding as "leather" with no further details. Maybe at this price point morocco is out of the question.

Yes, I was a little concerned about that, so I asked when placing the order. "I don't suppose it's Luttrell leather, or Liber Bestiarum leather, so what is it? Mort leather?" To which I received an entirely inconclusive answer so I'm having to wait and see. Common sense tells me it'll lean more towards Mort than the first two I mentioned. To coin a local phrase I'll show my bum in Fenwick's window if it's morocco or anything resembling it.

Oct 8, 2019, 1:32pm

One Down

Oct 8, 2019, 2:31pm

Lovely book, already ordered. I love the gothic, “Baroque” feel to it. It’s over the top but elegant, hard to explain. Very different from other limited editions. Anyway, a nice little Halloween treat for my trick or treat bag this year.

Oct 8, 2019, 3:10pm

>150 const-char-star: Congrats! `The power of Christ compels you! The power of Christ compels you`

>151 folio_books: Especially on horror books, naturally, making a good fit, making it even more collectible for the secondhand market also should that time come .. the leather looks stiff and probably is

I hope i (you) like it (thumbs up!)

Oct 8, 2019, 4:01pm

Mine has already shipped, I'm really looking forward to receiving it.

Oct 8, 2019, 4:08pm

I agree ... it will be interesting to see how quickly this sells out. I have the EP Dracula DLE ...

I think it's beautiful and for the price of $280 ... it works well. The tipped-in illustrations are fantastic if you like the painterly style. It has a higher limitation number ... 1200 (instead of the 750 for the FS).

At first I wasn't thrilled with the illustrations from this FS version ... but i'm actually enjoying them the more I look at them.

As for the leather quality ... in the promo video at ... :14 … :37 … :43 seconds ... you can see the leather looks to be a tight semi textured leather. It will be interesting to see how it feels.

I'm excited to hear what early purchasers have to say when the get their copy.

Oct 8, 2019, 4:35pm

I was temporarily away from my computer this morning, so I tried calling in an order for the Dracula LE. The customer service rep told me, however, that the office was so busy with other orders for this book that she would need to call me back. I asked if she knew how many copies were left but she said she had no such information. (I tried ordering again via telephone a couple of hours later and was successful.)

Edited: Oct 8, 2019, 4:38pm

>156 thisGuy33:
I, too, have the EP edition and am pleased with it, so I’m not inclined to splurge on another copy. But the Folio Edition looks to be just as good. They appear to be constructed similarly - leather, ribbon markers, gilded edges, attractive covers, pictorial slipcases, etc. The biggest difference seems to be the illustrations, and I like both. Of course, one can’t really tell for sure until you can see both books in person and can feel the leather and the paper.

Oct 8, 2019, 4:42pm

They should have released it on Walpurgis Night 🌙....

I already own the standard FS edition, and that is good enough for me.

Edited: Oct 9, 2019, 2:23pm

>141 SebRinelli: "In my opinion, this production simply lacks the elegance of a fine press book. Gilded on all edge-pages, an overly busy book cover, and illustrations that don't want to match their border designs."

This is exactly how I feel about this edition. A pass for me. In fact I like the regular 2008 edition better.

Also look at this stunning variant of the 2008 Folio edition published by The Lone Oak Press. Unfortunately limited to 5 copies and sold out:

A special boxed set containing a portfolio of the nine signed original engravings for the Folio Society’s 2008 edition of Dracula plus a signed copy of the book. The frontispiece for the book is hand-colored. This special set was designed and constructed by Daniel Gehnrich in an edition of five.


Oct 8, 2019, 5:32pm

>132 Levin40: "Also, happy to start purchasing LEs again now the ROW and UK prices have been realigned."

Agreed, this is a good thing. Though, I wonder whether prices will stay aligned after Brexit. Currently, it's illegal to treat UK and mainland consumers differently under European law. That's how I interpret it anyway.

Oct 8, 2019, 6:44pm

>160 Czernobog: In fact I like the regular 2008 edition better

I agree completely with this. I don't see any significant upgrade over that edition that's worth the price here. Much like the Count of Monte Cristo it feels kind of cheap to me. Minus the leather something that I would find in the Barnes and Noble special editions.

I realize I've been a real negative Nancy about what FS has put out the past year or so but it's not malicious I swear!

I hope that those who are excited will have all their expectations fulfilled come delivery!

Edited: Oct 9, 2019, 3:17am

A far more pleasing production to me than the Folio Count (okay, that's not saying much...) but the novel itself is a borderline one to be sitting on my shelves at all so I'll not be a purchaser. I think I must have picked the 2008 edition up in a sale, and it's more than sufficient.

Oct 8, 2019, 8:44pm

Easy pass for me. I do like Angela Barrett, but this whole production feels (as others have previously said) like a page out of the EP or B&N playbook. Better materials, typesetting, etc. for sure, but not in the same class as most prior FS LEs (with some notable exceptions, mostly recent).

>160 Czernobog: I'm not sure I'd call that a variant. The book itself is just the standard FS edition, albeit with frontispiece colored and a signature added.

Oct 8, 2019, 9:22pm

Just watched the video - I think it looks great and I love the illustrations. I think they’ve done it justice.

Oct 8, 2019, 11:05pm

I agree with Seb, which is disappointing. I really thought this would be an immediate buy. Alas, I told on this one.

Oct 9, 2019, 2:41am

>134 Uppernorwood: >140 NLNils: Sold out by Halloween would be a fairly safe bet I think :-)

>149 boldface: >151 folio_books: I didn't purchase it, but my guess would be that but whichever leather was used for The Count of Monte Cristo, this will be similar.

Oct 9, 2019, 2:43am

I have to agree with Seb and a few others. This is certainly a *nice* edition. But, what's special about it? It is signed by the artist which I certainly value. The illustrations are excellent. That said, there have been SO many editions of Dracula... what sets this one apart from other limited editions? EP also has a limited edition of Dracula available
Between the two I would lean towards the FS edition, but then again, the EP edition is substantially cheaper and also quite nice. Point is - I wish the FS would have included a new essay on the importance of Dracula, a limited edition print, something that would make it stand out from the crowd. As it is, very nice, but I'm not thrilled.

Edited: Oct 9, 2019, 3:22am

>168 astropi: I wish the FS would have included a new essay on the importance of Dracula

There's a new introduction by John Banville. It's an interesting comparison but of the two I note that the FS edition offers a lot more illustration for your money.

ETA: something that would make it stand out from the crowd...your mean like writing the title page in the blood of the people who designed it and hiding real Transylvanian soil in the slipcase? ;-)

Oct 9, 2019, 3:02am

I would agree that an introduction by John Banville is a positive factor to be considered.

Oct 9, 2019, 3:05am

I was looking for another Dracula book for my collection. Total US price $390 (345 for the book and 45 for shipping). I hope the leather is good but I bought it mostly for the artwork.

Edited: Oct 9, 2019, 3:24am

Are we told anywhere that it's a new introduction by John Banville, rather than a reprinting of his introduction to the 2008 edition?

Oct 9, 2019, 3:27am

>172 terebinth: You're probably right. I don't have that edition and didn't realise he'd already done one. It'll be new to me anyway, haha.

Oct 9, 2019, 3:28am

172: Yeah, as far as I know this is not a new introduction. Hey, it may be a good introduction, but a new introduction would have been ideal. Also, does anyone remember when the FS would include commentary volumes? I loved those!! I know it costs more, but a commentary volume for something such as Dracula would be warranted considering the influence - and that would have made it stand out from the crowd.

Oct 9, 2019, 4:31am

I will skip and just wait for a Suntup edition. Something tells me he will do it in the next 3 years. This Folio edition lacks that personal touch I need from a LE.

Oct 9, 2019, 4:57am

175: Mmmm, that would be lovely. However, I will point out that Suntup has NOT published a single non-modern work.

Oct 9, 2019, 5:56am

>160 Czernobog:

That looks good. Out of curiosity, how much did it cost? As a rule, the signed engravings alone would be worth quite a bit.

Oct 9, 2019, 6:23am


$560 inc. shipping

There's a fool born every minute.

Oct 9, 2019, 6:28am

>176 astropi: I have a feeling, corroborated by some comments on the Dark Tower forums, that he will eventually do the horror classics. Next he will release a 3-book set, and this will be his first ever with Roman numerals. Wonder what it will be. If he ends up doing a letterpress Lord of the Rings, I will lose my pants (not too many 3-book sets out there worthy of this treatment...)

Oct 9, 2019, 6:37am

>177 SF-72: "How much did it cost?"

I don't own that particular edition, sorry if I made that impression. Found it when searching for the regular 2008 edition. But I would gladly pay the same for it as the new LE if it was available.

Oct 9, 2019, 7:02am

Looks nice and the price is good for an LE, but I get more of a 'very good fine edition' vibe from it. Not quite a buy for me.

>179 Raenas: Further to this, Suntup's final book announcement of the year will apparently be something unlike anything else he's published. From his announcement yesterday:

"On Friday, December 6th we will make our final book announcement of the year, which will be available for pre-order the following day provided that it does not sell out during the private pre-order. This will also be a very unique release in that it is only available as a Lettered edition, and the title is not at all what you are accustomed to seeing from us. We do expect it to raise some eyebrows, however it is one of the best-selling books of all time, and one which we feel deserves a special edition."

I am extremely curious, though since it's a lettered edition only there is absolutely zero chance I'll be able to get a copy.

Oct 9, 2019, 7:36am

>180 Czernobog:

I thought you might have it or just stumbled across it and know more than could be seen on the website.

I suspect that it might have cost more than the current LE by FS. Original etchings do have value, then the hand-colouring, the box etc. It's really a great idea, I wish there were more editions like this, even if I may not be able to afford them.I often like the artwork enough that I wish it could be seen separately from the book, maybe even framed, but such opportunities are rare.

Oct 9, 2019, 9:47am

>181 owf_117: This will also be a very unique release in that it is only available as a Lettered edition

Do I understand correctly that whatever it is they are releasing would be limited to 26 copies?

Edited: Oct 9, 2019, 10:25am

Though i doubt it will be the definite edition of Dracula for me. I see it as an upgrade of the standard. I like the illustrations, they are spot on if you feel like romanticising the Count .. so .. IF .. there should be another version of Dracula someday by other publishers that would come to my fancy, then i would prefer a totally different take on Mr. D and a lot darker in style ..

If so should happen, then yes please, i would be fine to own both these editions ..

Oct 9, 2019, 10:34am

>185 Pellias: i would prefer a totally different take on Mr. D and a lot darker in style ..

Obviously, individual tastes and preferences make a big difference but I have to say in my estimation there's nothing romantic about her frontispiece portrait. It's probably the nastiest portrayal I've seen. But hey ...

Oct 9, 2019, 10:38am

>169 Levin40: :) Joking aside I don't find Amaranthine's dry edition to be "worse" than FS. It's a different take and personally I find the contemporary style of the illustrations refreshing. If anything, I believe that the whole production falls in line to a singular vision; whether one likes it or not (as opposed to FS which to me feels a bit disconnected). What put me off was the cover; the book can be mistaken for a pillow. If it was something as simple as plain black cloth I'd be all over it.

Oct 9, 2019, 11:16am

.. i would prefer a totally different take on Mr. D and a lot darker in style .. if i were to obtain another interpretation of Dracula someday in a book, then i would prefer that one to have even a darker tone .. so it`s not to similar to this one ..

I like the FS illustrations very much, top notch, i like Angela Barret and find it spot on .. there are som feminin touches to the art, that are to me making the scenery romantic and gothic and yet undefined, colourful yet grey of tone

Angela Barret too is a legend within the FS when it comes to illustrations, owning her work as a collectable is only what it should be being a devotee and all, satisfied to own a collectible by Angela Barret, to the oposite of the 5 of Quentin Blake :)

From Anna Karenina to Dracula i find it okay to call the scenery romantic .. (yet scary - darker tone) ..

Oct 9, 2019, 11:32am

And...bought. Been refreshing the website since 9:45am. Looks beautiful *and* reasonably priced.

Edited: Oct 9, 2019, 3:02pm

If the previous method of 'How many copies can I place in the basket' holds true, there currently seem to remain 387 copies of the book. Anything above this yields the error message 'We don't have as many "Dracula" as you requested.'

Curious to know if this indeed is true.

Edit: As a afterthought, I checked with the LEs released since this loophole was last fixed and the number for 'Studies from Nature' lies on 166 left, which is consistent with the page message of 'Over 300 Sold' for that LE. At edit, Dracula had moved down to 385.

Edited: Oct 9, 2019, 1:23pm

Anyone think it's odd that they haven't put anything on social media about this? It's barely even on their home page (at the last position on the hero image carousel).

Also, this just arrived in my inbox and seems relevant:

Oct 9, 2019, 3:59pm

>191 Auberon: Wow! It seems like everyone is jumping the Dracula train this year for some reason. And yes, very unlike Folio to market this. Too weird as to why they've remained silent on it.

Oct 9, 2019, 4:05pm

Maybe this will sell out before they officially acknowledge its existence.

Oct 9, 2019, 4:13pm

>192 RATBAG.: Too weird as to why they've remained silent on it.

The most obvious reason is that they don't believe they need to do any marketing. Someone earlier made the valid point that The Book of the New Sun sold out very quickly without any publicity. There are good grounds for believing Dracula will enjoy a similar fate.

The good folks at Folio aren't as dumb as they sometimes make out.

Oct 9, 2019, 5:01pm

Everyone have a look at the link from >191 Auberon: to the Beehive edition. VERY different, and you have to wait two years, but extraordinary.

Oct 9, 2019, 5:08pm

>194 folio_books:
So do we get to queue up in Northumberland street?

Oct 9, 2019, 5:36pm

>195 wcarter: That is so awesome. That they thought of this is inspiring. Talk about guts!

Oct 9, 2019, 7:27pm

>191 Auberon: >195 wcarter: Wow, so tempting. Love the concept.

Edited: Oct 9, 2019, 10:22pm

A Contrarian View.

With all of the excitement and fervor regarding limited edition (Folio Society), letterpress (LEC), and ultra-expensive (Pennyroyal and Beehive) options for Dracula, I think the best choice may be the one least discussed in this thread - the original deluxe edition of Dracula by the FS in 2008.

It is "deluxe" in the same manner other FS books in their $100 to $200 dollar range are, e.g., Piers Plowman, Middlemarch, Beowulf, Japanese Tales, Leaves of Grass, etc., and it was crafted by the top-notch German duo of Memmingen Mediencentrum AG (printers) and Lachenmeier (bindery). Best of all, Abigail Rorer designed the binding covers and provided nine superb wood engravings as illustrations. They are far more effective than Felix Hoffman's illustrations for the LEC edition and Angela Barrett's illustrations for the new FS limited edition, imho. Rorer is one of the finest wood engravers on the current scene, so much so that she was featured in one of the earliest Barbarian Press editions in their Endgrain Editions series, in which they provide a retrospective view of today's finest wood engravers with an extensive suite of their work spanning their careers, using their original wood blocks for the illustrations.

I am not noted for taking the most cost-effective option when selecting my fine & private press books but, in this case, that is precisely what I did. The FS 2008 edition was a clear-cut winner for me.

Don't outthink this one, folks.

Oct 9, 2019, 11:12pm

>190 F.Trier:

Now at 373.

Oct 9, 2019, 11:52pm

>195 wcarter: I was looking for the actual book for a few minutes before I realised the concept.

Edited: Oct 10, 2019, 12:03am

Even at the exact same price, I'd rather the old standard edition over the LE.

ETA: I missed post 199 above, but I agree completely.

Oct 10, 2019, 12:00am

>199 dlphcoracl: "I am not noted for taking the most cost-effective option when selecting my fine & private press books"

I confess, i chuckled ;)

Oct 10, 2019, 5:07am

>200 bookfair_e: and now the loophole is fixed thanks to his/her moliness with the message: 'The most you may purchase is 10.' What efficiency :)

Oct 10, 2019, 5:20am

>196 Jayked: So do we get to queue up in Northumberland street?

I'll let you know after I've received my copy. But seriously impressed that a Canadian resident should be acquainted with the geography of Newcastle-upon-Tyne!

Oct 10, 2019, 6:10am

>205 folio_books:

We are familiar with Fenwick's window in Spain.

Oct 10, 2019, 6:19am

>206 drasvola:

I had no idea it was famous outside the north-east of England. From now on I shall have to be more careful where I show my bum.

Oct 10, 2019, 7:00am

>204 F.Trier: you'd think they would learn from mistakes made in the past. I also expect some were able to buy Dracula with 10% discount before it was reported here. Same thing happened with previous discounts running while a new LE was published...

Oct 10, 2019, 8:17am

>200 bookfair_e: Over half gone in two days with next to no marketing push is very good going. The appearance of a counter will speed things up again. I give this one a couple of weeks max.

>192 RATBAG.: Too weird as to why they've remained silent on it.. Actually, it's quite standard behaviour from FS. No one has any idea why, though it does benefit those of us who keep an eye on LT. The strange thing is, they have been active on instagram in the last couple of days, but chose to promote Dune and Ubik instead.

Oct 10, 2019, 8:23am

>209 Levin40: I guess that they only activated the page on the website and planned to start marketing later. Nobody has yet received the brochure for the book. It is also not directly accessible from the front page.

Edited: Oct 10, 2019, 8:40am

It`s out on facebook probably, and twitter and all of that. People chat and it spreads like a fire throughout the wasteland of the world wide web. There are also a video out on youtube uploaded from Folio Society .. that is marketing right there .. based on experience and data these volumes sell fast without much fuzz .. so .. why bother :)

*i meant instagram probably

Oct 10, 2019, 8:43am

>209 Levin40: I suspect their only (and last) marketing push for Dracula might come somewhere around the 100-ish mark so that they completely sell our of it. Either way, I doubt it will last long considering half has sold out already, come day two.

Oct 10, 2019, 8:43am

Increasingly bemused by LE sans Solander Box.
Is this a trend of late to save more profit?

Oct 10, 2019, 9:25am

>213 LesMiserables:
Keeps costs down, and most people don't seem to mind. Stops me buying though. Red binding exposed to light equals early fade; and in a rubbing contest between leather binding and cloth slipcase, cloth is going to win every time. You'd think they'd have learned from Edda.

Oct 10, 2019, 9:48am

>213 LesMiserables: I was planning on getting The Poetic Edda LE. Talk of fading is a strong deterrent.

Oct 10, 2019, 10:06am

>215 RATBAG.: You could join the sans-slipcase squad, no risk of rubbing when your books are displayed on the shelves in the nude.

Oct 10, 2019, 10:52am

>215 RATBAG.:
Re. fading. Red is notoriously more prone to it, presumably because of its place in the colour spectrum. I note that Folio decorated the rear of the Rabelais LE slipcase, presumably so that those who wished to could stack the books with the spines out of the light.
The more immediate problem with the Edda is that the tight-fitting slipcase is made of a coarse cloth. When you remove the book you hear a scraping sound that isn't good news for soft thin leather. One review online notes early signs of damage. I don't use the slipcase. If you have the time you can make your own clamshell box, though at these prices you shouldn't have to.

Edited: Oct 10, 2019, 11:27am

>217 Jayked:

Green leather dye appears to be the worst. If I'm looking through an auction catalog and I see a green leather binding it always has some level of fading/sunning. I actually owned a book where the green leather labels faded to gray overnight, under artificial light (blinds always shut).

Oct 10, 2019, 12:09pm

>218 MobyRichard:

I've not thought of green as especially unstable, but presumably there are some very different chemical ways of producing similar visual results. I have 44 volumes of Hugh Walpole's fiction custom-bound in deep green morocco circa 1950, and can't detect any difference between spine and board shades on those: similarly I've not noticed my own or anyone else's copy of the Blake-illustrated Folio Paradise Lost changing hue.

Edited: Oct 10, 2019, 8:49pm

>219 terebinth:

These were generally older than that. Like 19th century or older.
I mostly just browse, not buy so I'm judging from auctioneer descriptions but I can't remember coming across a single older green leather binding that didn't have sunning in the ten years I've indulged my little hobby.

My guess is, as with a lot of the leather and paper made at the time, someday invented some cheap way to mass produce the dye and these were just good enough for it to take a while before anyone noticed the problems. I say that but I also have a modern pennyroyal press book in green leather, spine already faded. Hard to blame shoddy craftsmanship with that kind of pedigree.

Oct 10, 2019, 9:58pm

>219 terebinth:

Nice to see someone else who appreciates Hugh Walpole. Sounds like a beautiful set.

Oct 11, 2019, 6:41am

I'm very happy to report that my copy arrived earlier this morning and it has exceeded my expectations. The leather is better quality than I was expecting for the price. Better than, say, Count of Monte Cristo or Mort. I couldn't call it sumptuous a la Luttrell Psalter, Liber Bestiarum or the special edition of War and Peace (blue leather) but it is entirely satisfactory. I'm particularly impressed with how they've managed to transfer a very complex binding design onto the surface, where it sits quite naturally.

For those in doubt (Jonathan), handling it will dispel any worries. This book feels like a LE from top to toe. Smells like one, too - quite intoxicating. I should also mention the slipcase which is covered in a silk-like material, which should eliminate issues with rubbing against the leather. Of course, that might increase the possibilty of the slipcase fading from rich black but all you have to remember is to keep the Count away from sunlight and all should be well.

Oct 11, 2019, 7:43am

The LE is now up on social media and all signs point to it selling out soon. I'd be surprised to see it make next Wednesday.

Oct 11, 2019, 7:53am

A few hours after the book arrived I received the brochure from Folio. I'll scan it this afternoon and send it to Warwick for the Wiki.

>223 Fierylunar: I'd be surprised to see it make next Wednesday.

I think it was always destined to be a quick seller. Next Wednesday? Hmm, not beyond the bounds of possibility, for sure.

Edited: Oct 11, 2019, 8:52am

I checked FS site to get myself enabled and seems that Travels In Arabia Deserta (6 left) and Vincent van Gogh: The Sketchbooks (1 left) have resurfaced for a while.

Oct 11, 2019, 9:06am

I wonder if the Folio warehouse is like the fossil record, the deeper into the back of the warehouse a worker digs the older the Folio LEs they discover.

Oct 11, 2019, 9:23am

>226 wongie:

Be careful not to get crushed beneath the towering pile of Pomonas at the front door.

Oct 11, 2019, 9:56am

>222 folio_books: Just received my copy too (no. 18) and I agree with your assessement. This is a really lovely edition and well worth the money. Perfect size for reading too.

Oct 11, 2019, 11:02am

>229 HarpsichordKnight: Still 1 left if you are fast!

Yeah, right. And the rest ...

Oct 11, 2019, 11:24am

Have also received my copy; number 20.

Oct 11, 2019, 11:26am

>229 HarpsichordKnight: its not just dracula then that cant be killed off!! the pomona returns from the dead!

Oct 11, 2019, 11:28am

The Banville introduction is the same 2008 text.

Oct 11, 2019, 11:53am

>222 folio_books:

Thanks, Glenn (and others who have it in the flesh). I was hoping it would be a lot better than it looks on the website, i.e. more Folio Society than Barnes & Noble (ouch!)

Edited: Oct 11, 2019, 12:48pm

>225 clymbouris: I just pounced on Travels in Arabia Deserta hoping it's real. I've been after that on the second hand market for several years now and keep missing out so could not pass it up. If I buy more books this year my wife will absolutely murder me though so that's gotta be it.

Oct 11, 2019, 1:47pm

>235 Sorion: If I buy more books this year my wife will absolutely murder me though so that's gotta be it.

You can fool me :)

Oct 11, 2019, 2:01pm

>234 boldface:

Beats the hell out of Barnes & Noble and even W.H. Smith.

Seriously, you will not regret it.

Oct 11, 2019, 3:19pm

>222 folio_books: >228 Levin40: Glad you liked it, mine will arrive approx. tuesday

>237 folio_books: I have the B & N edition, so i can actually compare .. that B & N edition are actually one of their better editions, thicker paper, larger font than usual, and if that is not enough it also holds a ribbon marker

Oct 11, 2019, 4:00pm

>238 Pellias:

I look forward to your comparison.

Oct 11, 2019, 4:28pm

>240 Pellias:

A thorough waste of eleven dollars, unless you're in dire need of a doorstop.

Oct 11, 2019, 4:28pm

>225 clymbouris: Thanks for the enablement - I too picked up a copy of Travels in Arabia Deserta - was not at all planning that expenditure, but it was too good to pass up! According to the website I picked up the fourth to last copy, so only three left.

Edited: Oct 11, 2019, 4:57pm

When i started collecting i will tell you my exhibitionist friend, i started with B & N and it got me to focus on the english language more than before - then a short trip to Easton Press - then a devotee of the FS (and forever will be most likely) - then a random collector of CP and SP or whatever - at this point i am taken by Suntup

Now what do i ramble on about .. everybody start somewhere. I didn`t know i would go on to become Pelias the Posh knight when it comes to these things in particular ..

Edited: Oct 11, 2019, 5:45pm

The Dracula brochure is now available for download from the FSD wiki here.

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Oct 11, 2019, 8:58pm

The Dracula web page now carries the note “over 200 sold.”

Oct 12, 2019, 7:01am

>246 jroger1: curious, seeing how the earlier glimpse into stock (>200 bookfair_e:) indicated that over half had been sold.

Oct 12, 2019, 7:38am

My new Dracula LE flew in yesterday (number 56).

I had misgivings over the binding when first seeing it on the website but I too think it's much better than the website pictures suggest and I'm pleased I decided to get it. The leather is better than I'd expected, the page-edge gilding is lighter than other LEs that I have and the slip case is a very nice silky texture. I don't know how the slip case will stand up to wear but given LEs are generally handled with kid gloves I don't expect that will be an issue for most.

If I rub the shelves with garlic and put Dracula in a circle of salt will it be safe to put him in the same bookcase as Cinderella & The Sleeping Beauty?

Oct 12, 2019, 10:47am

Just picked up my copy from the post office, number 34.

Very pleased with quality and it feels great in the hands, solid but not too weighty to read comfortably. My only criticism is perhaps the more modern cover design doesn't quite fit with the Victorian aesthetic of the internal design.

The slip case really is lovely, though I can see it being a nightmare to clean. It managed to pick up some some fibres just from the brown wrapping paper. Best to store it in a closed book case if possible I think!

Edited: Oct 12, 2019, 5:15pm

>149 boldface:

Jonathan, I agree with your sentiments. I too feel the lack of the wow factor. Well we’ll see but it is good to see many enjoying their purchase. I remain unconvinced and happy with my non-LE folio edition.

Edited: Oct 13, 2019, 12:20pm

Unbelievable. As someone who used to bemoan the Folio Society's forever burying the beautiful spines and bindings of limited editions in solander sarcophagi, I can't quite believe they chose a slipcase for the one work that's screaming for a clamshell tomb.

I quite like the cover design, even if it doesn't have quite the same Wow! factor of the similarly sized Don Quixote, Moby Dick or Toilers of the Sea LEs, but surely all edges blood-red or all-edges black would have been more fitting than formulaic gilt. Like others here, I prefer the borders to the illustrations, though perhaps the latter look better in the flesh than on a computer screen. I could so easily have been tempted by a well-designed FS Dracula LE, particularly as I was never taken by the cartoonish illustrations in the 2008 standard edition, but with this offering I'm not yet feeling an irresistible urge to bite.

Oct 12, 2019, 10:08pm

This looks nice, but I don’t want it more than the four or five standard Folio books I could get with the same amount of money.

Oct 12, 2019, 11:14pm

>251 cronshaw:

How they missed this opportunity is baffling!

Oct 13, 2019, 4:23am

>251 cronshaw:

cronshaw AND huxley in the same week - we are being thoroughly spoiled! Nice to see you again, Russell (and Fiona). I would have to say I don't detect a noticeable difference between the illustrations as shown on the website and in the flesh. The biggest single difference, for me, is the binding, which really comes alive when you handle it. Much more subtle than it appeared on the website, infinitely more so than the poor pictures in the magazine. For me the wow factor is palpable. This is where they miss the members' room, because I feel sure that few people who actually handle the thing could resist it. Still, sales are going very well so I doubt they need me to promote it.

Edited: Oct 13, 2019, 12:13pm

>254 folio_books: Lovely to see you too, Glenn! I'm pleased to hear the binding feels significantly better in the hand than it looks on-line and that you're pleased with the acquisition. Does the binding colour look suitably blood-red in the flesh? I find it hard to judge colour on-line (the Poetic Edda LE looks more blood-red to me for example) and I miss being able to eye-caress new Folios in the dismembered room.

Edited: Oct 13, 2019, 6:10pm

>246 jroger1: “over 200 sold.””

The social media announcement was Friday and the 200 stock quote appeared yesterday. So assuming this is correct (see also >247 Fierylunar:) it's selling at a rate of 100 copies per day. If it keeps selling like this it will be sold out by Friday. YMMV.

For comparison sake:

Copies per day
  1. The Book of the New Sun sold out in 11 days at 75 ~68 copies per day (limitation 750)
  2. The Count of Monte Christo sold out in 9 days at ~55 copies per day (limitation 500)

Instagram popularity
  1. The Book of the New Sun: likes 1558, comments 40
  2. Dracula: likes 3458, comments 125

Edit: maths

Oct 13, 2019, 4:42pm

>256 Czernobog:
.....and Mort sold out in 13 hours!

Oct 14, 2019, 12:04am

Dracula reached me in the Antipodes today.

I have attached some detailed pictures of the leather binding, colophon, some previously unseen illustrations, tailpieces and the slipcase so those who are wavering about the purchase can make their decision with more information.

Oct 14, 2019, 5:04am

That is what I call fast delivery! It's probably the flash but yours seems a much lighter red than mine. You get a better idea in the second photo, contrasting the two boards.

Edited: Oct 14, 2019, 6:34am

>258 wcarter: Thanks Warwick, that's helpful, even if computer screens may still render certain reds as more orange than they are to the naked eye. The images are growing on me. I must buy more garlic.

Fiddling about with the FS website for the first time in a while, I noticed the following oddity: that this LE is priced at £235 for UK residents, while for ROW residents it's priced at £195.83 plus £39.17 'tax', bringing the total payable to the same as the UK price. I understand that books don't attract VAT (=GST) in the UK, but why this general added tax for all those countries that comprise ROW? No such tax is added when I Americanise myself.

Oct 14, 2019, 6:58am

The website now has over 300 sold.

Oct 14, 2019, 7:22am

>254 folio_books: Hm, I was nearly enabled there Glenn, but I'm still reluctant to spend c £250 to replace the two editions which I already have. My dilemma being compounded by a recent purchase of the final book in Carlos Zafon's Cemetery of Forgotten Books series in the Subterranean Press edition - crazy postage charges of 75 USD for a small book, but it had to be done. Ultimately I know I would have been rather more upset at not completing that series than by not purchasing Dracula should I eventually miss out, as I'm still not loving the binding illustration and the paper doesn't look good (Warwick's images five and nine) in comparison with the thick, fragrant stock used in my HP edition.

Oct 14, 2019, 8:01am

>258 wcarter:

Thank you for the photos.

Oct 14, 2019, 9:01am

>262 HuxleyTheCat:

I respect your viewpoint Fiona and I won't try to enable you further. I suspect by the time you come around to it (which you will on the day you handle a copy!) they'll all be gone. I'm going to blame flash photography for the paper (Abbey Pure Rough) because I've just taken another look at mine and it's definitely more opaque than it appears in Warwick's photos and yes, I know Warwick is a very, very good photographer. Of course if you already have two editions which you like the need for the LE is diminished somewhat. Life is much easier for me as I collect only Folios and nothing else. I will admit to one non-Folio LE but that's as far as it goes. I unloaded my Folio 2008 Dracula on eBay last weekend, in advance of the release of the new one. It was a perfectly satisfactory Folio edition but nothing special.

Oct 14, 2019, 9:15am

The website now states: "Over 300 sold."

Oct 14, 2019, 9:53am

Mine arrived last Friday (no. 15) Overall I'm please to have purchased it. I can't resist a leather binding and, although this is nothing like those we might have expected a few years ago (I suspect those days have gone!) it's still worth having and seems to be an improvement on that used for Monte Cristo! I could have done with less fussy artwork on the cover but that's just personal taste! I would have preferred a simpler approach to both this and Cristo. I have the 2008 edition as well and I don't think either illustrator has quite got it right - not sinister enough. However - it's well worth having and I'd recommend it. I remember suggesting that the FS publish it about 20 years ago but wondering if it wasn't a bit downmarket for them at the time. How things change!!

Oct 14, 2019, 11:44am

>266 malc79: I have the 2008 edition as well and I don't think either illustrator has quite got it right - not sinister enough. However - it's well worth having and I'd recommend it

Agreed about the sinister bit, the positive about that is that it opens up for the possibility of owning a different take on the Count some day in the future and possibly from another publisher also. I am thinking about you Suntup. Dracula is a book i could have more than one edition of, and got it right or not is a matter of taste. Much better than the (as before mentioned) cartoonish style of the 2008 ed. I read Dracula last year and i never felt those illustrations had that much personality if any, it was superficious and didn`t suck me in .. besides that it is a quality edition typical of a quality FS book.

Doubt i`ll sell mine though, as it won`t give much in return. One of those mass produced books i feel. Who knows .. and my LE is probably just around the corner and then some ..

Oct 14, 2019, 12:54pm

>267 Pellias: Doubt i`ll sell mine though, as it won`t give much in return.

If you're talking about the 2008 Folio Dracula, I sold mine on eBay last weekend for £55, which went some way to offsetting the cost of the LE.

Oct 14, 2019, 1:04pm

>258 wcarter:

Thank you, Warwick. That's very helpful. I think I'm decided now. I will stick to my 2008 Four Corners edition (set from the first edition), as recommended on this board in 2011 -

- yellow cloth binding with flat but rigid spine; sewn; titles on front board and spine in blood red; top edge stained with more gore; haemaglobin endpapers; illustrated with pencil drawings by James Pyman; book designed by John Morgan in collaboration with the artist.

Set in fonts based on those in use at the time of the book's original publication:

LTC Remington Typewriter Pro Italic for Mina Harker's journal;
Bulmer justified for Jonathan Harker's journal;
Bulmer Italic ranged left for Dr Seward;
Akzidenz Grotesk for Dr Van Helsing;
Goudy Sans Italic for Lucy Westenra's letters;
Orator Standard for telegrams (matched exactly tp a telegram of the period);
Century Expanded for newspaper extracts;
Greenwood for Sister Agatha.

I had no problem in coffin' up the asking price (2011) of £13.95/$27, reduced to £13.26, from Amazon.

And no, I don't have a stake in either publisher or retailer.

Oct 14, 2019, 1:48pm

>268 folio_books: Wow. If you want something bad enough, you get it i guess. If it were a devotee knowing of the market it would be another price methinks as i hold the forth printing the market should be stuffed with the Draculas of 2008 and after .. anyway .. great deal my friend (of course you are!) ..

Oct 14, 2019, 1:55pm

>269 boldface: Enabled! Thank you, that edition sounds amazing, a 24cm full-cloth sewn binding with attractive illustrations and top edge gore, all for £13.95 incl. P&P. on Amazon. Not all the garlic in France could stop me biting.

Oct 14, 2019, 2:08pm

>270 Pellias:

When I listed it there were only a few other copies, all of them well over £100. Mine was the cheapest by far. Since my good fortune I've noted the prices realised have dropped somewhat.

Oct 14, 2019, 3:43pm

Warning: Personal Taste Below

I received my copy (#79) today. It looks less than a Limited Edition but at a more popular price point. I suppose the signature of the artists boosts it. The words do bleed somewhat which is disappointing. The feel/look is like a heavier buckram. The endpapers are the plain red. Oddly the illustrations are appealing to me except the initial picture which is the Count himself.

It is below a full leather Franklin Mint edition but the illustrations and paper are finer and carefully presented on quality paper.

Overall Impression: good but a bit immature/pretentious. It looks like the Barnes & Noble Editions style but with better materials.

Oct 14, 2019, 4:06pm

>264 folio_books: Alas the demise of the dismembered room ensures that I won't actually get a copy in my hands prior to sell-out. C'est la vie.

I'm ready and waiting to spend big on a Folio LE should they decide to publish one to my taste but sadly nothing has been motivating me recently: Watership Down or Wolf Hall would certainly do, or if they give the full GoT treatment to a new edition of Lord of the Rings I'd be very happy indeed to splash the cash.

Oct 14, 2019, 4:46pm

>274 HuxleyTheCat: f they give the full GoT treatment to a new edition of Lord of the Rings I'd be very happy indeed to splash the cash.

Me too but as they've already produced a Limited Edition LoTR would it be unethical to publish a different one? I have no idea.

Oct 14, 2019, 4:51pm

>275 folio_books:

Nope. As long as it's different in a substantial manner, it would be alright. If they reprinted the first LE then they'd have an ethical problem.

Oct 14, 2019, 4:56pm

>275 folio_books: I don't think it would be unethical to publish a new edition (tastes change, as do Folio personnel); republishing the original LE would be an entirely different matter.

Talking of tastes (and steering the subject back OT) I can't imagine Folio having published the current Dracula even a decade or so ago.

Edited: Oct 14, 2019, 7:09pm

I finally received Dracula at my door, he demanded to come in for tea, yeah right... but I told him to hand over the book and get lost. He left with his cloak smoking.

The first impression, a wonderful buy (maybe a Frankenstein can be next year's limited edition in hunter green or electric teal blue leather and gold, sort of like a trilogy of leather horror books). The leather smells wonderful, the leather is soft and supple. The red for my copy is a deep red. This is not anywhere near B&N leatherbound books that feel plastic-like and mass-produced. I have some but I'm glad I didn't heavily invest in B&N books. This is genuine leather. The embossing is nice and I like that it's a simple limited edition. I like the wolves on the cover, all-around a nice limited edition. The slipcase is interesting, it feels like a moire silk material without the heavy texturing, but it's a slipcase that I never have seen Folio Society use before. In a morbid way, it looks like the material you would see lining coffins.

There are already great images by wcarter above, but I thought you may want to see how it compares to other books.

Oct 14, 2019, 7:51pm

The leather colour, and the paper quality still seem to be under contention.

The following photos are a close up of a page and its paper, and the back cover leather colour. I have adjusted the leather colour saturation, brightness and contrast while holding the book against MY screen (Samsung) so that the colours are identical, but screens do vary in the way they handle colour.

I have not used a flash on any of my book photos in any post. The light variation across the book in the photos is the natural ambient light variation.

Oct 14, 2019, 9:35pm

>269 boldface:

Thanks from me too for luring me to the Four Corners site! I'm happy with my 2008 Folio Drac, but I picked up this:

Their entire graphic design section looks very interesting.

Oct 14, 2019, 11:39pm

I, too, bought a copy of the Four Corners edition today (through Book Depository).

Oct 14, 2019, 11:59pm

I bought a Four Corners copy tonight also; from amazon

Oct 15, 2019, 2:03am

>273 Forthwith: I take it you're referring to show-through rather than bleed-through. I'd be very surprised if there were bleed-through on any page in an LE. The only time I believe anyone noticed it was in a few copies of the letterpress printed Rupert Brooke LE, on the reverse of some of the denser tailpieces. Nevertheless, it's worrying if there's a distracting level of show-throw in a limited edition costing £250.

Could any Devotees who already have the LE Dracula please comment on the comparison of the show-through with that of other Folio LEs? The thought of a paper stock of a lesser quality than expected in an LE is off-putting, no matter how lovely the leather and binding design are.

>278 Comatoes: Congratulations! Great news that you love your copy, and that you think it a wonderful buy. That's interesting what you say about the fabric used for the slipcase, aptly morbid. I still wish it were a solander tomb though. What do you think about the paper of the text block and any show-through?

>279 wcarter: thanks Warwick, that's pretty dried blood-looking! Though I wouldn't say it's the colour of 'venous' blood (as described in the Folio marketing blurb) which would be far darker.

>280 LolaWalser: they've some wonderful titles don't they? I'm intrigued by their book on Russian revolutionary postcards.

Edited: Oct 15, 2019, 4:33am

>283 cronshaw: Thank you Cronshaw. Yes, there is page show-through, I especially noticed it in the light, especially when the page is lifted, just before turning. When the page is flat there is a small amount of show-through, especially when the page has less text than the next page. Depending on how you feel about this, it's not a great distraction, but it's present.

The Four Corners Dracula looks really nice, thanks for the link.

Oct 15, 2019, 5:32am

>279 wcarter: I have not used a flash on any of my book photos in any post. The light variation across the book in the photos is the natural ambient light variation.

Then I apologise for suggesting otherwise. I was evidently not making sufficient allowance for the brightness of daylight in the antipodes. It explains to some extent why I cannot detect any obvious level of show-through, or perhaps that's just my ageing eyesight. I would say the colour in your new photograph is pretty close to the book I hold in my hands. In your original set of photographs it matches the front board shown in the second photograph but not the back board, and not the close-up of the front board in the third. Sorry if I'm being picky but the shade of red for a Dracula binding is an important matter for many. My personal opinion is that Folio got it exactly right.

>284 Comatoes: there is page show-through, I especially noticed it in the light, especially when the page is lifted, just before turning. When the page is flat there is a small amount of show-through, especially when the page has less text than the next page.

I can broadly agree with this. If you look at a single page against the light, you can see text on the other side. However, that is not the way I read my books and to me the degree of show-through in this LE is negligible. Could it just be my eyes?

Edited: Oct 15, 2019, 6:18am

I can also recommend the Four Corners edition of Vanity Fair, however it does help to be a Bette Davis fan. TWO pink ribbon bookmarks, though...

Oct 15, 2019, 6:19am

>269 boldface:
Thanks for the introduction to the Four Corners Dracula, I ordered one last night. I wasn't sure about the (very) yellow binding but the illustrations and typefaces appealed to me.

Oct 15, 2019, 7:23am

I also have the Four Corners Dracula, but I ordered the FS LE because I wanted a better quality edition. Its like comparing a Kia to a Jaguar.

Oct 15, 2019, 8:07am

>287 Hrodberht: It`s based on the first edition of 1897

Oct 15, 2019, 8:49am

>288 wcarter: would advise to go for the Kia...

Porsche 911, Kia top list of highest-quality cars, with Land Rover and Jaguar among the worst

Nevertheless your point got through :)

Oct 15, 2019, 2:57pm

Has anyone who has bought it received any kind of damage to the books, like scuffing at all to the leather? Mine has scrapes on the front and rear covers

Oct 16, 2019, 6:04am

Arrived #70 (why not 666 FS, why ohh why??)

.. and, ehh no, it is not like B & N quality (i have the entire false leatherboundcollection for B & N, and even if it had the same quality, it would certainly be a massive upgrade (B & N editions are designed to look good on the shelf, and that they do if you belong to the target group for whom the books are made)

Now back to this edition .. seen on the upclose, i do like the Gothic style and dark pen (art) of Angela Barrett and for me this is a update of the 2008 ed. No doubt the art and the feel of the new book offers a different experience

The spine could in my taste maybe be a little less messy, but hey FS like messy spines we know that

Glad i bought it, a one to keep for me

Oct 16, 2019, 7:31am

The website now shows "Over half sold"

Oct 16, 2019, 8:29am

>292 Pellias:

Agreed...using the Barnes & Noble comparison should only be used in those rarest of cases where Folio truly fails to produce a quality design. I haven't been collecting Folios that long but I've never seen them produce anything like a B&N leatherette.

Oct 16, 2019, 9:24am

I agree with treereader. Folio's Dracula is superb. Does any of you who received one have any scuffs or markings on the covers of yours? Front of back?

Oct 16, 2019, 9:27am

>295 Emily_Jones51:

The scuffs are on the gilded edges for me. Quite a few in fact. I asked for a replacement. Did anyone else have the same issue?

Edited: Oct 16, 2019, 9:35am

Yes, there was bits of dust or pebbles that got pushed into the back of mine when the leather was glued to the boards, and there are scrapings against the covers. I also noticed the signed sheet has bleeding from the end pages. The book is produced in Germany, and I don't understand why the quality of the binding is not good. I'm thinking of asking for a replacement too. This book cost me a fortune, so I hoped it would be in mint condition!

Oct 16, 2019, 9:37am

That photo, sir, is art. Pure and simple. Art. Thank you.

-- P.S. You're Missing Sheridan Le Fanu's In a Glass Darkly to make it a complete Vampire set. ;-)

xx Emily

Oct 16, 2019, 4:00pm

Got mine, #71, today. At first, I thought the leather in the back had a small tear, but then I realized it was some sticky black substance that I've yet to get rid of. I guess I could scrape it off with my nail, but I'm afraid of damaging the leather. Any ideas?

As for the book itself, I'd give it 3.5/5. Overall, the spine and the cover are way too busy for my taste, and the illustrations leave something to be desired. The count itself just looks like a creepy old dude stroking the bread at Sainsbury's, and while the rest of them are ok, they seem a bit too dark. Ok, it's night now and I'm using artificial light, but I just have a hard time seeing the finer detail on the illustrations. Maybe this changes with daylight. On the plus side, I really like the type and the borders surrounding the illustrations are really nice.

Oct 16, 2019, 4:24pm

>299 filox: Hair dryer. Take your time with it at maximum heat and gently sub until it starts to come off while the dryer blows simultaneously.

Edited: Oct 16, 2019, 5:32pm

>299 filox: "count looks like a creepy old dude stroking the bread at Sainsburys"
i will never look at that image again without thinking of that comment , so youve somehow both ruined and improved the book for me!

my comments on the LE are that i really like the illustrations (apart now from the creepy bread stroking count), and the binding, but as previously mentioned the paper could have done with being a bit thicker. its very similar i think to last years Count of Monte Cristo im terms of presentation (they will be next to each other on the bookcase)

its obviously a great book for this time of year, and not bad value at the price point.

Edited: Oct 17, 2019, 9:01am

Looks like B&N edition. lol I find EP limited edition of Dracula to be much better and classier looking.

Oct 17, 2019, 9:03am

>302 fancythings:

On your comment about the LE
I'm not going to bite

Oct 17, 2019, 9:19am

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>301 stumc: 'as previously mentioned the paper could have done with being a bit thicker. its very similar i think to last years Count of Monte Cristo im terms of presentation'

The paper of the Count of Monte Cristo LE struck me, from all the on-line images available, as being of similar quality to that which we're seeing here in images of the Dracula LE. I've not noticed any thing approaching such show-through on earlier LEs, including all the similarly sized novel LEs such as Don Quixote, Moby Dick, Toilers of the Sea, and The Duke's Children. I hope this isn't an indication of Folio opting for a lesser quality of materials in order to cut costs. Top grade paper of sufficiently high opacity so as to prevent a notable level of show-through is essential in a limited edition. If we wanted cheaper paper we're already spoiled for choice with EP, B&N and Penguin's clothbound classics. I'd far rather a limitation of 1000 with superb paper than the same edition printed on lesser quality paper limited to 750.

Incidentally, I've just received my Four Corners Dracula and love it. The yellow binding is softer in tone than on-line images suggest. The paper is satisfactorily opaque, and James Pyman's 27 illustrations are marvellous; impressive to think they're all pencil-drawn. The different typefaces for the different voices make this edition all the more enjoyable.

>288 wcarter: Colour me a big Kia-fan!

Edited: Oct 17, 2019, 11:10am

>305 cronshaw: So you think EP paper show through and cheaper??? Which EP edition do you have? I have a lot of regular EP editions that you can't see through the next page, never mind my EP DLE's. Please show us pictures of any EP books that have papers that show through. I've been collecting EP books for some time now and find their regular editions to be much more luxurious than FS regular editions. I don't even want to have discussions about EP and FS LE's since I love them both and have a lot of them in my collection. If you making statements like that, please show us a proof in pictures. In addition, B&N books never meant to be on par with FS or EP and serve a different purpose to be affordable for what they are.

Edited: Oct 17, 2019, 11:13am

>305 cronshaw: I have no EP books in my library for the simple reason that I've never sufficiently liked either the aesthetic or quality of any EP edition I've seen in secondhand bookshops in London. Their paper and type-setting always struck me as being notably inferior to that of Folio, while their generally formulaic binding designs didn't appeal to me either.

Oct 17, 2019, 11:13am

Wow, people get so angry on here. Leave the outrage culture for twitter ;-)

It's just books, buddy, relaxxxxx. Take it easy. I used to like EP but they don't reproduce any of the classics anymore, or even gothic, horror, or Victorian literature, so I stopped buying from them. Plus their limitation number is so small compared to Folio that they sell out so much quicker and then never reprint, whereas Folio reprints multiple editions.

Hence, I'm a Folio girl for life!

Oct 17, 2019, 11:14am

Hi Neil, and anyone else who have bought LE editions: Is it normal for the LE editions to have scuffing on the leather????

Oct 17, 2019, 11:17am

>307 cronshaw: Okay, I beg to differ and my regular EP editions do have much thicker papers that regular FS editions. I understand your likeness for FS books, I like them too but respectfully disagree with your opinion about EP books. I have now over 100 EP regular books and over 50 of their DLE's. I find similar thickness of paper in my regular EP editions compare to my recently purchased FS LE editions, which I love very much. For instance, my 5 vol. EP LE Count of Monte Cristo has thicker paper stock when compared to my Lovecraft FS LE. I can go on...

Edited: Oct 17, 2019, 11:22am

>308 Emily_Jones51: not angry at all and like this discussion with cronshaw but when I see that somebody might be mistaken, I'll give my opinion. I also defend my FS regular and LE editions since I love my books very much and both EP and FS add to my beautiful collection. Can't imagine my collection without EP and FS books.

Oct 17, 2019, 11:27am

I hear ya Fancythings. Trust me, I used to love Easton Press, though I only discovered them a couple years ago; they printed an incredible run of Horror books some 5-7 years back, Haunting of Hill House, Victorian Ghost Stories, Complete Edgar Allan Poe collection, etc. But when they sold out of their production run of 100 books, they stopped selling them forever. What a silly business model, when there is such a massive demand for this stuff.

Moreover, the don't produce any more of the classics in Limited Edition format. I missed out on Robinson Crusoe for example, and the Ebay crooks are selling it for 700 USD sealed when it was only 200 USD. It's a shame, because if they released a fine edition of the Charles Dickens complete works, I'd be their first customer.

I also hate it when EP collectors are like "You should have bought it when it came out 40 years ago" and I'm like, dude, I wasn't even alive then, you old fart! ;-)

xx Emily

Edited: Oct 17, 2019, 11:36am

> 312 lol and lol. Me too and completely depend on my parents and good school work to get more of EP and FS limited editions. I hear ya too, its never enough. Glad my parents are well to do. lol I also love that what I can get from EP I can't get from FS and vice versa.

Oct 17, 2019, 11:33am

>308 Emily_Jones51: Is it normal for the LE editions to have scuffing on the leather????

There shouldn't be marks from recent handling - packing etc. - though the Mort LE in particular did suffer from a lot of little mechanical scrapes.

Quite legitimate on the other hand are signs that the leather was worn by an animal. Some LEs have been issued with a printed note included as a reminder: for instance the Kelmscott Chaucer facsimile -

"The skins sometimes bear traces of their past, such as scars, variations in grain, areas of different skin thickness and various other marks. These are in no way detrimental to the quality of the leather and are regarded as adding to the natural beauty of this material..."

Oct 17, 2019, 11:35am

>310 fancythings: ...compared to my Lovecraft FS LE

Keep in mind that the Lovecraft is not a true LE. It's just the regular edition's text block in a special binding and a Solander sarcophagus.

Edited: Oct 17, 2019, 11:40am

>314 terebinth: Yeah maybe but I love it so much because the way it feels in my hands. Very unusual material and FS did a great job to put this kind of material on Lovecraft book. Also, crazy about Lovecraft stories. But have to admit that no FS and no EP limited editions come close to my FS Letterpress Hamlet. Incredible just incredible. I read it only in my bed and I put the book on my pillow when I read it. Already read it several times. Most beautiful edition ever along with my KJB FS LE. Love them very much.

Edited: Oct 19, 2019, 4:53am

>310 fancythings: We should differ! It would be a boring forum if everyone shared the same taste in things. I'm delighted that you of course love the EP books in your collection. I'm very fond of HP and LEC books and regret that there aren't more of them this side of the Atlantic. The few I have I cherish. The Folios I've collected to date, and which I've retained after a large slimming down of my Folio library after several years' untreated manic FAD, I love for their diversity of design and materials, typically well chosen to fit the work in question, particularly in the case of LEs. When I think of the exquisite paper used for the The Door in the Wall, Le Morte D'Arthur, Night Thoughts, Poems of Thomas Gray, and Riddley Walker, to name a few of the top of my head, I can't help but regret seeing lesser quality paper used in other LEs and hope it's not a trend.

Oct 17, 2019, 1:28pm

>317 cronshaw: "When I think of the exquisite paper used for the The Door in the Wall, Le Morte D'Arthur, Night Thoughts, Poems of Thomas Gray, and Riddley Walker, to name a few of the top of my head, I can't help but regret seeing lesser quality paper used in other LEs and hope it's not a trend."

I completely agree to that. :)

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>305 cronshaw: "Colour me a big Kia-fan" (And there's me thinking that you would be spending the week glued to the side of a Piccadilly Line carriage, Russell: are you retiring the velocipede and partaking of the delights of the internal combustion engine?)

I agree that it is disappointing if Folio has reduced their paper specification for 'cheaper' (now there's a relative term!) LE's. It's a bad move but unsurprising. If I absolutely loved the binding illustration for Dracula I would have been swayed by Glenn's objective opinion on the paper opacity, but I don't so I'll pass.

I'll happily make a contribution to the EP 'debate'. As I've written here previously (probably more than once...), I had a few, but rapidly ditched most of them when I did a side by side comparison of the image reproduction in their Famous Editions Beowulf with its LEC parent. The only three I kept were those which have predominantly monochrome illustrations and where the poor quality of reproduction would not show up so clearly: For Whom the Bell Tolls (there is definite show-through on the verso of the illustration pages), All Quiet on the Western Front (very minor show-through - perfectly acceptable) and Leaves of Grass (distracting levels of show-through throughout).

ETA - Four Corners Books give free books to libraries and are a publisher well-worth supporting.

Oct 17, 2019, 3:42pm

>320 HuxleyTheCat: Have a very different experience with my EP books, thick paper and pleasure to read.

Oct 17, 2019, 3:54pm

>312 Emily_Jones51:

And even that sort of model is not as bad as being outside the US and unable to order EP books AT ALL...

Oct 17, 2019, 3:58pm

>320 HuxleyTheCat: I would have been swayed by Glenn's objective opinion on the paper opacity, but I don't so I'll pass.

Thank you, Fiona. I did try very hard to be especially objective on this one. Bottom line, though, I can only report what I see, Whether others see the same thing I don't know and can't comment upon.

Oct 17, 2019, 4:02pm

>322 InVitrio: .. which is why EP is not relevant for me either.

Oct 17, 2019, 4:16pm

>323 folio_books: I'll certainly be awaiting your report on those you select from the Christmas collection. For the first time in quite a while I have a warm and fuzzy feeling about the forthcoming books. This may in part be due to the rather large glass of Catalan red recently quaffed, but not entirely.

Oct 17, 2019, 8:10pm

>316 fancythings: I have to agree. I think the letterpress shakespeares are about the nearest to perfect books FS has made

Oct 18, 2019, 11:54am

Count(er) just appeared - 271 left.

Oct 18, 2019, 4:03pm

Folio must have few or no bound-up copies remaining.

The message on the website is:


The Low Stock counter is at 263

Oct 18, 2019, 4:26pm

>328 bookfair_e: that would explain the earlier availability in >200 bookfair_e:. Apparently, FS did not expect this title to be this big a success.

Edited: Oct 18, 2019, 4:31pm

So all of this talk about thickness of paper and quality of hide had got me thinking how glad I am that we don't have any of those deranged extinction rebellion terrorists on here, telling us all how awfully sadistic we all are for reading books.

Oct 18, 2019, 9:57pm

Now available on Ebay for £374!

Oct 19, 2019, 5:33am

>264 folio_books: Forgive me, Glenn, you were quite right in your assessment of the paper opacity: the show-through isn't as marked as the images above would suggest, and not at a level I consider distracting, though it can be hard not to be impressed by images more than words describing the same thing. I had the fortune yesterday to see the copy of a chronically unwell Faddict whose malady obliged him to acquire it on the day of release. I was especially impressed by the binding, what beautiful leather indeed, most wonderfully olfactory. The colour of the leather felt redder and darker, more satisfyingly vampiric, than appeared to me in most images, including those on the Folio website. I also found Angela Barrett's illustrations more gratifying: the dark Victorian mood of the illustrations impressed me considerably more than when I first saw them on the website, and they're an immeasurable improvement to my eyes upon those of the standard edition. The detailed tailpieces are well done too. I'd still rather the edition were all edges red or black, and came in a solid solander sarcophagus, of course, but hey, you can't always have everything you want in an LE. I loved it enough to know I'd not forgive myself if it sold out and I found myself on the other side of the hospital wall from all those who have one, and unable to afford it at a later point. So I've just now placed my order: thank you (and curse you) for a momentary reactivation of my FAD.

Oct 19, 2019, 6:03am

>332 cronshaw: So I've just now placed my order: thank you (and curse you) for a momentary reactivation of my FAD.

You're welcome :) Nothing to forgive, Russell. As I said, you just need to have it in your hands to be convinced, as I was. I agree with you on the black edges; not sure about the sarcophagus - that might just have been a shade OTT. But these are minor quibbles. It's a magnificent volume. I congratulate you on its acquisition after wrestling with your conscience. FAD is indeed harder to overcome than crack addition.

Oct 21, 2019, 11:34am

198 left

Oct 21, 2019, 4:34pm

Anyone think Folio will make a matching Frankenstein LE edition to match Dracula???

I would throw my knickers into the air with excitement if that were the case.

Oct 21, 2019, 7:59pm

>335 Emily_Jones51:
Now that would be a sight to see! ;-)

Oct 21, 2019, 8:39pm

My knickers or Frankenstein ... ;-)

Oct 21, 2019, 8:40pm

Well played, Emily: the ball is in Folio's court now! We haven't had a knicker scandal since 1896!

Oct 22, 2019, 7:16am

Shooting down. Only 152 left now. At this rate it'll be gone by the weekend.

Oct 22, 2019, 9:42am

Hi, are you the Emily Jones who is the Oxford University Associate Professor in Public Policy (Global Economic Governance) …

And I thought professors were boring!

Oct 22, 2019, 10:28am

>340 Chawton: This type of "unmasking" question isn't good online etiquette - if you have a genuine interest in a forum poster's real-life identity, it's best to send them a private message.

Oct 22, 2019, 11:17am

>341 CLWggg:
Oh come on. I don't suppose anyone mistook that for a serious question.

Oct 22, 2019, 11:25am

>342 Jayked: Sorry. Perhaps I've witnessed too many unpleasant cases in other forums where people have tried to find out and post about other posters' real-life identities.

Oct 22, 2019, 11:33am

I did go to Oxford, but I read Chemistry, not finances. And I agree with CLWggg it's kind of weird searching the members on here. Can we stop the stalker behaviour please?

Oct 22, 2019, 1:40pm

>340 Chawton:, say you`re sorry for the unpleasant and disturbing behaviour shown towards >344 Emily_Jones51:

>344 Emily_Jones51:, say you`re sorry for the mistake that led on to become the knickerscandal of 2019, you too should have known better the outcome of this

Now. Let`s not drink too much wine, read okay books and be merry enough ! ..

Edited: Oct 22, 2019, 2:18pm

Right now the Dracula counter is at 136, which means 614 copies were sold in 11 days, at a rate of 55.8 copies a day. This is comparable to that of The Count of Monte Christo (55 copies a day). It could be gone in 3 to 4 days. Not sure how to factor in the competition from the Christmas collection.

Oct 22, 2019, 2:47pm

>346 Czernobog: Not sure how the Christmas collection will affect things either. But I'd certainly expect to see the usual acceleration once 100 copies is breached, as resellers pile in and FOMO grips some of those currently on the fence.

Oct 23, 2019, 8:05am

Well, I wasn't originally going to order this LE, but given the quick sales pace and the other enablers here on LibraryThing, I caved and placed my order. If they do start printing a few other horror classics in an LE format, I would like to have a nice set. Which is pretty insane in itself, considering I already have several other copies of horror classics in very nice formats.

Book collecting is a sickness. I need professional help.

Oct 23, 2019, 8:28am

>348 hamletscamaro: you've come to the wrong ward. The treatment here is purely palliative.

Oct 23, 2019, 9:18am

Hey Pellias, I'm all about having a glass of wine.

hamletscamaro - It would be wonderful if Folio printed a matching deluxe edition of Frankenstein, but that book gets no love from anyone (Folio or Easton Press). AND there are 3 main editions of it, including the rare 1818 edition. Oh well

Oct 23, 2019, 11:06am

>350 Emily_Jones51: I knew it ! Now make up with >340 Chawton: again. He is a great guy !


A matching deluxe of Frankenstein would be nothing but a realistic follow up on the Dracula LE

“I am alone and miserable. Only someone as ugly as I am could love me” : A fitting quote for a book in need of an LE treatment

Oct 23, 2019, 12:13pm

I have hope they will listen to their readers. They re-published the Fairy books, so I tip my hat to them. Easton Press, however, never, and I mean, NEVER listen to their customers. Their rule of never re-printing best selling books, is the stupidest business move I've ever seen in publishing. That is why Folio is clowning Easton Press in terms of profits and fanbase, which is growing rapidly.

Oct 23, 2019, 3:38pm

>350 Emily_Jones51: but that book gets no love from anyone

There's AP Frankenstein, and the Thornwillow, but of which look very nice.

>352 Emily_Jones51: That is why Folio is clowning Easton Press in terms of profits and fanbase

I wouldn't say that's the main reason, but I guess it doesn't help.

Oct 23, 2019, 3:50pm

>352 Emily_Jones51:
Where do you get your profit and fan base data?

Oct 23, 2019, 4:17pm

from matthew1956

Oct 23, 2019, 4:49pm

I was going to wait till the counter hits 85 (or so), try my luck at scoring the 666 number (a gamble at best, I know) but have decided not to. I have such a wonderful first read memory of the 2008 FS version, read last year. Nothing will compare with that first read, it’s experiences like that keep me buying folio, hoping for another fix...
Good luck to the one who scores no. 666!

Edited: Oct 23, 2019, 7:04pm

It's down to two figures - 99

Oct 23, 2019, 9:07pm

>352 Emily_Jones51: "Easton Press, however, never, and I mean, NEVER listen to their customers."

This isn't completely true. Some of us, myself included, prefer series sets over DLEs, and EP is both slowing down on DLEs and experimenting with bringing back series, albeit small ones. Many of the Reader's Choice issues also seem to be heavily influenced by customer requests, as well.

Oct 24, 2019, 2:19am

>355 matthew1956sPa: Yeah, had you down as one and the same. All those questions.

Oct 24, 2019, 3:10am

>359 Levin40: yep 😂

Oct 24, 2019, 9:52am

Those who forecast this to be Sold Out by the weekend – their predictions are on target at 72 now remaining.

Oct 24, 2019, 2:33pm

Only 57 copies left. The Count may not even make it to the weekend.

Oct 24, 2019, 2:40pm

Fine, fine I'll buy it now. I hope all of you are ashamed of yourselves.

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Oct 24, 2019, 4:16pm

>364 cronshaw:

Talking of cruel enablement, have you got yours yet or are you in the queue for November?

Oct 24, 2019, 4:28pm

I received it straight away, surprisingly, as the Folio website was already showing the notice 'order now for delivery in November' when I finally placed my order on-line. Perfect for Halloween!

Oct 24, 2019, 6:30pm

Only 50 left

The counter is dropping faster than a Transylvanian coffin lid at sunrise.

Oct 24, 2019, 10:56pm

Well, being in the US, I am happy to report that I received my mailer for Dracula today. With plenty of time to buy one of the 49 remaining copies. Thankfully I don't have to rely on mailers to find out about things like this or I may have very nearly missed out.

Oct 25, 2019, 5:19am

>366 cronshaw: I received it straight away, surprisingly

Oh, excellent. I was thinking of whether or not you'd miss out on Halloween when I asked the question. I've saved mine for that very event,

Oct 25, 2019, 9:05am

>269 boldface: Thank you for this recommendation. I was back and forth about the Folio Dracula LE, but in the end it just doesn’t really suit me. This Four Corners edition seems well thought out and put together—especially for the price. I’ve ordered it until a letterpress or fine edition that truly strikes my fancy comes along.

Oct 25, 2019, 10:30am

>370 mnmcdwl: I received my Four Corners edition last week. Very nice for such an inexpensive version. I got the Folio LE as well, sometimes you need a Jaguar and sometimes a Kia.

>289 Pellias: I see what you mean, I hadn't realised that the cover was based on the 1897 first edition.

Oct 25, 2019, 12:36pm

Only two dozen left. Dracula may not make California sunset.

Oct 25, 2019, 1:59pm

>366 cronshaw: I never doubted you'd receive it in plenty of time for Brexit.

Oct 25, 2019, 3:50pm

>373 fiascoborelli:

It was always going to get there before January 31st, or even April 30, July 31 or November 30. We have to get through a general election and quite possibly a second referendum before that happens so we're going to be Europeans for at least a little while to come, which can only be a good thing.

Oct 25, 2019, 6:26pm

Only 13 left.

No time now for dithering and procrastination. Pull the trigger. You know it makes sense. In just a few hours from now there will be copies on ebay at twice the RRP, followed by a good deal of complaining about it on this forum by those who left it too late.

It always happens.

I hope someone finds this helpful.

Oct 25, 2019, 6:29pm

I have nr #72 to change for #666 if anyone are interested ;o)

Oct 26, 2019, 1:35am

And there’s 4 left!!

Oct 26, 2019, 2:16am


>375 bookfair_e: at least some of these resellers will have to wait until late November before posting them on ebay. Expect a glut then.

Oct 26, 2019, 3:13am

Dracula is now gone. Hope nobody was planning a Saturday stake-out

Oct 26, 2019, 2:33pm

>376 Pellias: I thought you had #70? Or did you buy two?

Oct 27, 2019, 3:34pm

>380 filox: You keep good track of me. I love it ! ;) .. naah, "only" the one edition ..

Edited: Oct 29, 2019, 1:10am

Now on Ebay for £450!
Original price was £235

Also available for US$1000!

Oct 30, 2019, 11:47am

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wcarter - Don't say these things on Library Thing. If you try to point out greedy con-artist sellers who buy books and sell them for 2 to 10 times the price, the little LT trolls come out and criticize you that it is fair and part of capitalism.

Sssshhhh - I agree with you, but best not to anger the con-artist supporting trolls.

Oct 30, 2019, 4:17pm

>383 Emily_Jones51:

Lol...I love how no one says a word when somebody is forced to sell at a ridiculous discount (for whatever reason). I love a bargain as much as the next guy, but come on....some consistency here please :D.

I also notice it's always "fair" when you fleece some amateur who doesn't know what they're selling.

Oct 30, 2019, 4:30pm

O/T For all those who have discovered Four Corners Books via Dracula, may I recommend their new publication:

I unboxed a copy in work this morning as the Nuclear Alarm Siren was given one of its regular tests - guaranteed to give those of us of a certain age goosebumps. (For those who may not know what it sounds like :

Oct 30, 2019, 5:41pm

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Charging 2-10 times the original listing price is outright greed. No one said anything about fleecing amateurs. Read what I said instead of going off an embarrassing tangent. We're talking about people charging ridiculous sums only, like Sirhobby on Ebay charging 6,100 GBP for the Fairy Book complete set. That is called greed. Don't be a Richard... Moby.

Oct 31, 2019, 7:36am

Help me out here, folks. I’m having trouble understanding the reason for the forest of flags the previous post has generated. My best guess is it’s all down to the last sentence which, I’d readily agree, is rude and no way deserved by >384 MobyRichard:, though I’ve seen many a more personal attack made with no comment. >386 Emily_Jones51: 's basic premise, that the secondary market in Folios attracts some very greedy dealers, is one I have made myself on numerous occasions and no-one has sought to censor me. If you want >386 Emily_Jones51: to learn from this, that personal attacks are not welcome on FSD and if you make a heartfelt point you have to anticipate that someone is going to disagree with you, say so. Otherwise, as a newbie she’ll be scratching her head and wondering what she’s done. I’d hate to see her leave over this but I’d understand exactly why.

I've just noticed her previous post has been similarly flagged (it wasn't when I first logged on) which I totally fail to understand. If you don't agree with her, say so. Hiding behind a flag achieves nothing.

Oct 31, 2019, 8:13am

I have no idea what the flaggs are about, but from the moment she appeared here, i am thinking that Emily_Jones51 is way to much trolling in all threads.

Edited: Oct 31, 2019, 8:42am

>355 matthew1956sPa: Yeah, I was going to warn the Gentle Knight Pellias that the damsel in distress he was defending so gallantly a while back might not be quite a damsel exactly, but life got busy and I was mainly off LT for the last few weeks. But I see the veil has been lifted now.

>387 folio_books: a newbie she’ll be scratching her head...

She, or he, won't. Not a newbie. Just an old troublemaker paying a call under just another username. Sure, this particular personal attack was quite tame, but considering the history of similarly unprovoked but distinctly nasty personal attacks, no wonder there are so many flags there.

Edited: Oct 31, 2019, 9:21am

>387 folio_books: Otherwise, as a newbie she’ll be scratching her head and wondering what she’s done. I’d hate to see her leave over this but I’d understand exactly why.

Not exactly a newbie. See posts 353-355 above. He/she has been trolling this forum for years under various guises, generally being confrontational and spamming the threads with lots (and lots) of naive questions. The previous one, Matthew1956, was removed from the site at one point, I guess by site admin. Seems like the current incarnation is about to bite the dust soon too. But don't worry, I'm sure another one will be along before long.

ETA: Just wanted to add that this sort of behaviour really grates with me, particularly the taking advantage of people's good nature in wanting to help out newcomers, which in turn leads to cynicism re genuine newcomers.

Oct 31, 2019, 9:43am

Kind reminder to everyone that LT offers the ability to block users and that we're all mature people here, who are quite capable of self-censoring an angry response which is sure to trigger more retalliation. Anyone can de-escalate a conflict.

Rule of thumb: deep breaths before responding, ignore rather than confront suspected 'trolling'.

Oct 31, 2019, 9:45am

folio_books - Thank you for understanding. Your level-headed approach to comments on here is most welcome. I feel like I get attacked on here because I am new, and a woman, which is disgusting. As you said, you also speak out against the sellers who sell for 3-10 times the price, which is greedy. To say contrary is just foolish. No one wants to pay 20 GBP for a bag of apples, or 10 GBP per gallon of petrol.

I dunno who this matthew is, and as a woman and a staunch feminist, I find it insulting to be compared to a man. My thoughts are my own, not in league with someone other than my gender.

Voicing an opinion contrary to yours is not trolling. I'm a lover of Folio books like any other person on here (and of folio_books for his kind words of course).

Oct 31, 2019, 9:53am

>392 Emily_Jones51: Give it up buddy. And grow up too.

Oct 31, 2019, 10:07am

LT's terms of use say "comment on content, not on the contributor." The second post in particular clearly broke that rule, and was eligible to be flagged. (FWIW I didn't flag it. I extend my own thick skin to others.)

Oct 31, 2019, 10:31am

>389 elladan0891: She, or he, won't. Not a newbie. Just an old troublemaker paying a call under just another username.

I'm prepared to believe it, but not without evidence.

>390 Levin40: See posts 353-355 above.

Still don't get it.

>390 Levin40: The previous one, Matthew1956,

Him I remember well, and good riddance. If anyone wants to provide me with information which establishes Emily and Matthew are one and the same I'll be willing to listen. PM me if necessary.

Let me make my position as clear as I can. Since "Emily" appeared on the board I have on occasion looked askance at her posts and wondered. A few have made me doubt her true gender, but that kind of shenanigans is widespread on the web and what does it matter, anyway? My conclusion so far is that, while a (small) proportion of her posts are questionable, they could just as easily be attributed to a young and inexperienced person who hasn't yet learned how to communicate in an adult fashion. We were all there once so she gets the benefit of my doubt. Matthew was very clearly a troll. I have yet to be convinced about Emily. And anyway, she is bang on right about ripoff dealers, hence my defence.

Oct 31, 2019, 10:35am

Oops, forgot to say

>391 Fierylunar: Kind reminder to everyone that LT offers the ability to block users and that we're all mature people here, who are quite capable of self-censoring an angry response which is sure to trigger more retalliation.

Absolutely agreed. The voice of reason. Those I do block are those who have, over time, demonstrated an ability to raise my blood pressure and thus make an inconsidered response more likely. Blocking them removes the temptation and I heartily urge people to consider it, maybe as an alternative to hurling flags.

Oct 31, 2019, 11:29am

>395 folio_books: If anyone wants to provide me with information which establishes Emily and Matthew are one and the same I'll be willing to listen.

You think post >355 matthew1956sPa: just came out of the blue? It was clearly an 'in-joke' response to the question asked of 'Emily' in >354 jroger1:. Not quite sure why our dear friend chose to unmask themself in this way but that they did, and I pretty sure it'd be enough to convince most juries.

>396 folio_books: Ignoring is an option, yes. But I doubt it blocks the responses from others (this one, for example) and the general ruckus created.

Oct 31, 2019, 12:28pm

>397 Levin40: Not quite sure why our dear friend chose to unmask themself in this way but that they did, and I pretty sure it'd be enough to convince most juries.

If I were on a jury I would more likely guess that post to have been made by someone vexed with Emily, but there we go.

Edited: Oct 31, 2019, 1:00pm

>395 folio_books:
And anyway, she is bang on right about ripoff dealers, hence my defence.
As I suspect I'm one of those classed as a 'troll' by Emily_Jones51, in that I've 'defended' (far too strong a word, but let it stand for the moment) the resellers, I'll respond to this comment instead, just to show it's not about her specifically.

I still can't see what the fuss is about. The collectors' book market has always been about the price of books in relation to their scarcity and desirability. Books that are scarce and desirable attract high prices, prices that can be ephemeral. Some ask huge sums - if they make that, then that's the market price, but just because they are asking a large sum doesn't mean they make it.

It's not as if these books are a necessity, it's not even that people can't get hold of the words themselves usually very cheaply, if not for free - it's simply the physical books. They are a luxury, so, to look at it another way, I can't see any reason why prices should be artificially lowered to satisfy some collectors' wants.

These dealers are being accused of 'greed'. Hmmm. Greed comes in many forms, and, surely we're all greedy at wanting these books in the first place: "an intense or inordinate longing" (Shorter OED) - isn't that almost exactly the definition of FAD?

>392 Emily_Jones51:
I feel like I get attacked on here because I am new, and a woman, which is disgusting.
If that is the case, then I do agree, but I've not seen any evidence to suggest why you being a woman has provoked an attack (nor because new), so I'd be interested to know on what basis you make that statement - not least because I'm aware that as a white middle-aged middle-class male I may well lack awareness of issues faced by others, and it's always useful to learn.

Edited: Oct 31, 2019, 1:10pm

>389 elladan0891: Oh, so, ahum .. You were going to warn me. But you didn`t did you. You would have made me walk straight off a cliff without telling me of said cliff, wouldn`t you. You knew the cliff were there, didn`t tell and i ended up flying? Finally a good riddance to the Gentle Knight :)

- I Played along, a short story by Pellias -

I knew Emily_Jones51 were a fake the first day she ignored me, and the gutfeeling were there. So i put to use Occam`s razor on the problem, and found it would probably have meant that our paths had crossed before under a different name. She were too familiar with this place, and not very humble. I mean, at all ! I could also put to use the art of deduction on this matter. But, would so quite possibly be seen as a larger nut than the smaller one i probably were from before. Therefore i played along, and i have to say - if played right these characters could be fun and a breath of fresh air .. until ..

I will not eat the bait : >392 Emily_Jones51: I dunno who this matthew is, and as a woman and a staunch feminist, I find it insulting to be compared to a man. My thoughts are my own, not in league with someone other than my gender .. but spread it, by telling i will not eat the bait is to promote the bait and make it larger. That is not smart, that is what i will do. Like Pippi ! Beware folks, hold fast. There is a storm coming into the teacup .. all men and women on deck, we will ride this storm through. We have done it before, and will do it again ! Come hell or highwater .. sMaCk, oooh, .. shut it !

Oct 31, 2019, 1:33pm

>400 Pellias: There is a storm coming into the teacup .. all men and women on deck, we will ride this storm through.

You are probably right but I won't be part of it. I have said my last word on this particular subject. Now, back to the real world.

Oct 31, 2019, 1:41pm

Pellias - I didn't mean to ignore you! I didn't even know you messaged me. Besides, you're one of my favorite posters on here, as we share many similar interests in terms of genres and books we like. Looking at your profile just now, I am completely certain of it. No hate towards you, only love! If you a woman, then from one to another :-)

And what is this fake stuff everyone talks about? I'm here to talk about Folio books, so I don't know what else ppl do here.

folio_books --> Wise words from a wise administrator on here.

So as Folio says, back to books ......

xx Emily

Oct 31, 2019, 2:41pm

>397 Levin40: general ruckus

Or, you know, just don't cause a ruddy ruckus about stupid stuff like this? I'm sorry but where two people fight, there are two to blame. Block user = don't get annoyed by user = don't derail an entire thread on LT. If everyone follows a simple rule of thumb, civil discussions can be had and 'trolls' will not be shouted down but just ignored until it is no longer interesting for them to participate. What do we have to gain from this hostile discussion? More food for trolls?

Now can we please get back on topic! To help along: I was editing the list of how fast LEs sold out in the past, and Dracula is solidly in the top 6, along with I Am Legend, Count of Monte Christo and Mort. What is making these particular recent FS editions this successful? And what 750 limited classic are we expecting next?

Oct 31, 2019, 4:24pm

>403 Fierylunar: And what 750 limited classic are we expecting next?

Dunno, but I personally am keeping a close watch on the Folio website tomorrow. You never know what might turn up.

Oct 31, 2019, 5:37pm

>402 Emily_Jones51:
I have sent you a PM.
Click on the yellow box at top right of your LT screen to read it.
Only you and I can read the message.

Oct 31, 2019, 7:58pm

A different perspective - and from a female, 40 something, member of this forum. I don’t participate in social media much at all but I do regularly read and occasionally post here as I love books, I am rapidly growing my collection of volumes that I think are beautiful, and also because I find it to be something of a respite from the shrill and unmeasured tone generally taken in other corners of the internet. If instead this turns into a conversation between individuals who think they are being hard done by because they are entitled, the world doesn’t t give them everything that they want and therefore should have then this loses all interest for me because you can read that rubbish anywhere, I am happy for anyone at any time to try to extract money from the internet selling of books. This is not selling cocaine to infants on street corners. Like Willoyd above I find it really hard to credit how anyone can get so upset about being offered goods for sale that they do not need to buy and at a price they do not want to pay. If this is the worst thing that people think is happening on the world perhaps it’s better to start reading some more newspapers....

Edited: Oct 31, 2019, 8:50pm

>403 Fierylunar:
What is making these particular recent FS editions this successful?
The usual I expect: a combination of the title/author, the numbers printed, the perceived quality/attractiveness of binding and the perceived value. There are plenty of FS LEs that take a long time to sell out, if at all, and each of those will be down to not hitting one or more of those criteria.

Oct 31, 2019, 11:37pm

>395 folio_books:
When it walks and quacks like a duck... I'll try sending you a pm tomorrow if I get some free time.

>397 Levin40:
I'm pretty sure it was rather one of us, the devotees, just voicing what was already on at least some people's minds. That account was created in jest by someone towards the end of matthew1956's tenure.

>400 Pellias: You would have made me walk straight off a cliff
I'm sorry, my dear friend! I was practically pulled off LT by force and held to ransom, but I knew you'd be fine in the end one way or another!

...would so quite possibly be seen as a larger nut...
Oh no, no risk of being seen as a nut. But there was a very high risk to see nuts - a pair to be exact - if you were to walk off the cliff, so to speak.

Oct 31, 2019, 11:41pm

And now something more appropriate for Halloween and the topic: a very funny parody of Dracula by young Stephen Fry. Looks like BBC has blocked this video on youtube, but I found it here, although reduced in quality:

Oct 31, 2019, 11:47pm

>408 elladan0891: I'm pretty sure it was rather one of us, the devotees, just voicing what was already on at least some people's minds. That account was created in jest by someone towards the end of matthew1956's tenure.
Is correct.

Edited: Nov 1, 2019, 12:06am

>409 elladan0891:
Thank you.

Nov 1, 2019, 7:04am

>409 elladan0891: Very funny!
Thank you.

Nov 12, 2019, 5:08pm

It is, apparently "late November" already as the second wave of Dracula LEs has now shipped! (Or, at least, mine has - I assume they'll be shipping all the remaining copies in one go?)

Nov 13, 2019, 6:42am

>413 CLWggg:, I also had my shipping notification yesterday. So you are not alone. I presume this represented shipment of the remaining copies.

Nov 14, 2019, 5:31am

I have disappointing news for those expecting a shipment of the Dracula LE anytime soon -- I got the same notice, and what arrived today was ... the Folio Diary. Oh dear.

Nov 14, 2019, 5:36am

A warning to >414 hamletscamaro: and anyone else who has been notified that their copy of Dracula has been shipped. Apparently it hasn't!

My order is clearly showing in my account as having been dispatched yesterday - the 2020 diary was automatically added to my order, and both the Dracula LE and the diary are showing under that order as "shipped". I got the notification from DPD yesterday evening that my order would be shipped today, and I've been excitedly tracking its progress this morning. DPD just arrived and handed over a tiny padded envelope. I asked if they also had a larger parcel, but no - that's all they had today. I've opened the envelope, and it only contains the 2020 diary, the usual "packed by" slip and a delivery note confirming 1 copy of 2020 diary enclosed, 0 copies of Dracula enclosed and a sub-listing for Dracula saying "SORRY OUT OF STOCK - 1 TO FOLLOW". How disappointing, when in my account both Dracula and the 2020 diary changed from "processing" to "shipped" yesterday! Booo...

Nov 14, 2019, 7:39am

Don't LEs come under separate cover from a different shipper?

Nov 14, 2019, 8:03am

I've never ordered an LE before - this is my first (when it arrives...). I received a shipping e-mail which clearly says that both Dracula and the diary were included in my shipment, but when it arrived it only included the diary and, as mentioned, a comment on the delivery note saying that Dracula was "to follow". Is this usual practice?

Edited: Nov 14, 2019, 8:17am

I think that's the sort of thing that happens now: the couriers aren't always up to speed with what they will be given to deliver. It wasn't quite like that when shipments were made from Folio's own warehouse, but website notifications were already so erratic that a book might be in the hands of its buyer while officially it hadn't yet left the depot.

Edited: Nov 14, 2019, 9:01am

Well that was disappointing. No delivery yesterday despite Tuesday's email saying next day but just had a neighbour round with a *very* small package. Folio Diary and magazine but no LE. The invoice said "out-of-stock".

Bah Humbug !

Ahh, I now see I wasn't the first to suffer disappointment :-(

Nov 14, 2019, 9:18am

>420 RogerBlake: Indeed. If the Folio Society had sent out e-mails saying that the diary had been sent as a stand-alone shipping and that Dracula would follow later, then that would have been fine. But they seem to have sent out e-mails saying "We've shipped your copy of Dracula" and then included a follow-up note with the diary that might as well have read: "Trick or treat? Trick!"

Not fair - I want my treat!

Nov 17, 2019, 12:55am

Have the Dracula emails included tracking numbers? On Tuesday I ordered the Owen LE. Two shipping emails went out on Wednesday with different DHL tracking numbers. It arrived Friday. The Folio Diary came in a separate package on the same day. I mention this because its packing slip referred to the Owen as "Out of Stock" which clearly wasn't the case. I have a feeling that language is used for any LE order with the Folio Diary.

Nov 17, 2019, 12:11pm

>422 Powderfinger69: I also received the Owen in separate packages with two delivery sets of notices and tracking numbers on the same day. I was out of state so requested a different delivery day and DHL responded and confirmed the requested date but delivered the packages while I was gone anyway. They do as they please and ignore customers.
Also, I ordered the signed Stephen King book but have never received it after 31 days nor any tracking information at all. I called the FS and they will call me back Monday. I have received other deliveries like Dracula, and the Christmas collection in the meantime so they have the correct contact information and address.
DHL has been very unreliable for delivery of FS books here in the states.

Nov 18, 2019, 8:20am

>422 Powderfinger69: FS only sent one shipping email (as per the screenshot above) which listed both Dracula and the diary, and then a separate e-mail with a tracking number came from the carrier, DPD (referring only to "your Folio Society parcel" - which turned out to be just the diary).

I did e-mail FS customer services, and they tell me that they hope to send out the Dracula LEs this Tuesday. Fingers crossed!

Edited: Nov 18, 2019, 9:31am

I too received just the diary, and not my copy of Dracula. However, I did receive a copy of the folio magazine with my diary, which was nice considering that my $650 box of books that I received just a few days before, did not. I really don't know when Folio decides to send the magazine, and when they do not. I'm sure the printings are limited, and perhaps they were simply out of stock when my main book order shipped. This always confuses me.

Thank you to everyone who posts clues to the content of the magazine here on LT.

Nov 20, 2019, 2:44pm

I contacted FS customer services again today. Apparently they have now received the remaining Dracula LEs, which they hope to ship tomorrow (Thursday).

Nov 21, 2019, 7:05pm

>426 CLWggg:, yes, I received a DHL notice today that I should receive a Folio shipment on Monday. As Dracula was my last outstanding book this should be it.

Nov 22, 2019, 4:47pm

Today I received number 66...…8.

Nov 23, 2019, 3:42am

>428 xrayman: Oh, so close! I received 712, so nowhere near. I wonder who the (un)lucky recipient is - if it's an FSD I'm sure we'll hear about it soon!

Nov 23, 2019, 8:59am

Today I received an email from DHL. My shipment has been divided into two packages. DHL is charging me the shipping of one of them. What should I do? What is coming in the other package? I need help.

Nov 23, 2019, 9:18am

>430 LostStar: Contact Folio customer services.

Nov 23, 2019, 9:21am

>430 LostStar: It may be that they're sending you either a copy of the 2020 diary (which was lumped together with my Dracula LE order and sent out first) or a copy of the latest FS magazine (which I had already received with a previous order). Before receiving the DHL e-mail, did you get an e-mail from FS stating what was included in the shipment? In my case, FS charged me shipping for Dracula (as expected) and didn't charge shipping for sending the diary separately.

Nov 23, 2019, 9:21am

>430 LostStar: One package is probably the Folio diary

Edited: Nov 23, 2019, 10:28am

I just received an email. And it's just the book.

Nov 23, 2019, 12:15pm

>434 LostStar: I'm still betting on the 2020 diary, but you will find out soon :-)

You mentioned that DHL is charging you shipping of one of the packages, but you have paid shipping cost to Folio Society when you placed the order - so DHL is charging you import duties and/or value added tax, depending on your location, probably for the Dracula. The diary is probably free of duties and tax because of its low value.

Another possibility is that they have send you two identical packages, which happened to me with my Fall order. I did send one package back to Folio Society (distribution center) and was reimbursed for the costs.

Nov 23, 2019, 12:56pm

This year I have only made two purchases, the set of The Book of The Sun and Dracula. For the shipping of Gene Wolfe's books I did not pay any extra costs. That is my doubt. Folio had to send Dracula and the Magazine/Diary in a single shipment. I will know on Monday.

Nov 25, 2019, 4:35pm

>429 CLWggg:, I received my copy, edition #625 today. So I was one digit closer to edition #666, but no cigar. Since Folio Society marks the edition # on the outside of the box, I am pretty sure that special edition numbers, like 666 in this case, probably get pulled and sent to someone specific, so it wouldn't be exactly a random affair. I know other book binders have no external marking of the edition number, so I do feel it is more random what number you receive.

Nov 26, 2019, 12:09am

# 547

Nov 26, 2019, 10:41am

I have #697.
I had to pay $ 70 more. DHL does not respect the law in my country and makes improper charges.
I wish not to use DHL anymore. Can my limited editions be sent by the regular Royal Mail service? My books always arrived in perfect condition.

Nov 26, 2019, 11:54am

>439 LostStar:

I'm not surprised, they've done the same with non-FS deliveries for me in Germany. In several cases they charged customs fees they shouldn't have by inventing a very high shipping fee a didn't pay. Considering Brexit I'm not happy that FS switched to them for their limited editions.

In your case I'd describe this to FS, maybe they can refund? Their complaint should have more weight with DHL than yours.

Nov 26, 2019, 12:17pm

Folio answered me a couple of days ago, when I asked about DHL commissions: "
"Thank you for getting in touch. Regrettably I am not able to intervene with customs from this end, all I am able to confirm is that the goods are correctly described and valued by us for DHL. We have only pre-paid the delivery costs and any local duties and taxes would have to be borne by the recipient. I cannot see how the valuation has been made by customs and you would need to check with them directly.
I am sorry I am not able to assist further but if we can help with anything else please do let us know."

Now I wait for another answer. I do not want to use DHL.

Edited: Nov 26, 2019, 1:48pm

>441 LostStar: When I import a book from the US to the Netherlands I have to pay VAT and handling costs to customs. The shipping company is just the messenger of the bad news. So I'm not sure if DHL is at fault here. Either file a complaint with DHL or customs depending on where the problem originated. The Folio email suggests the problem is with customs. I'm not convinced using another shipper will solve this problem. Also I don't know all details like your location and applicable law so YMMV.

BTW if you are in the EU you should not be paying anything to customs.

Edited: Nov 26, 2019, 2:51pm

>442 Czernobog:

I don't know where LostStar is, but: The problem with DHL is that they don't leave it up to actual customs to calculate the customs fees. In order to move packages quickly and directly to the buyer, they calculate customs fees themselves. They then charge the buyer the fees they calculated and - at least in Germany - a very generous fee for advancing the money when they don't do so at all. The buyer has to pay the fee to DHL at the door before they get the package and DHL have a month to pass the fees on to customs. In order to calculate the fees, they demand information to be provided by the seller along with the package in a very specific way. If, for example, the shipping fee isn't stated separately - because it was free or included in the price - they simply invent one. It's absurdly high, in my case over 100 Euro for a small book from outside the EU, which actually cost me a tenth for shipping and shouldn't have cost customs at all because the value was too low for that. If actual customs had done the job, I could have given them the correct information and would have received the package free of charge. With DHL at the helm, I had to pay more than the whole package cost in fees that they had no right to charge. That's why I find the move of FS to DHL really problematic. There are other shipping companies that are quite unpleasant, but in my experience nobody is as aggressive and greedy as DHL. This happened to me with more than one package which is why I try to avoid them whenever possible.

Edited: Nov 26, 2019, 3:18pm

>443 SF-72:

Sorry to hear that. So far DHL hasn't charged me for any Folio package (and they shouldn't because it's inside the EU). When I order books from the US they (almost) always go through customs (as far as I can tell from the stickers/stamps that get attached by customs) - but not sure DHL is often involved here. The only company that does things differently is Fedex. They pay any fees on behalf of the recipient, and later send a bill for the fees incurred. That might sound good but of all shipping companies I think Fedex is the most incompetent (website, customer service).

Nov 26, 2019, 5:24pm

I'm now accustomed to have to pay around 15€ in addition to shipping costs to pay up for my local DHL "administrative fees" ( ofc before delivery) ... I cough up gladly, as they hand deliver to me at my office at an agreed hour. All around good service quality but at a price.

Nov 27, 2019, 6:35am

>443 SF-72: Up until now I could decide if I want to have DHL do the custom declaration for me or if I go to the customs office. The fee would be 26€ therefore I always went to the customs office, which isn't too far away. I had one instance where I had to pick up my package from the post office and pay the customs fees there. On another instance they left the package with my neighbours with a sticker on it that I had to pay the fees in order to receive the package, which they didn't do, but they still gave them the package without payment information. So I couldn't pay if I wanted to.

Nov 27, 2019, 12:03pm

>446 c_schelle:

There's a difference between local DHL / Deutsche Post, which gives you a choice about customs, and international DHL express which take care of customs whether you want them to or not. They're the ones that invent shipping fees in order to charge customs fees they've got no right to charge. To give an example: I bought a book at about 20$, paid about 10 or 15$ for shipping, which the seller unfortunately didn't declare separately. DHL Express invented a shipping fee of over 100$ and that way the combined (and purely fictitious) value was high enough to charge customs fees, which the actual price I paid wasn't. I got those fees ack from customs, but DHL kept their fee for their 'service'. Thanks a lot.

Like you I go to the local customs station to get my packages if possible, it saves me a lot of money (and sheer incompetence).

Nov 27, 2019, 12:05pm

>444 Czernobog:

At least here, FedEx has recently started charging their fees at the door before you get your package. And yes, I also found them to be quite incompetent, so it was helpful to be able to correct mistakes before they have your money or hold your package hostage.