King in Yellow
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Hi all, so the King in Yellow at Easton Press just sold out. Does anyone have a copy, or a spare copy they are selling? The con-artist ebay rip offs love Easton Press, because they scoop up all their books and sell them for double to ten times the price. I saw two copies of it on Ebay for 180 when it was retailing for 75 on EP website.
On a secondary note, how many of these Reader's Choice books do Easton print? 5? Maybe 10 copies? I can't understand how a business can survive with such ridiculously stupid print runs like that. They would benefit from someone with actual business sense to grow their fan base instead of irritating many people who can never purchase their books in the short window they're available. (Even Folio re-releases their books! i.e. Lord of the Flies, Brave New World, etc.)
Why didn’t you buy it when it was originally available from Easton?
I don’t necessarily like books skyrocketing in value on the secondary market, but it doesn’t make someone a “con” artist for trying to make a profit.
It’s called capitalism.
The Readers Choice books do sell for about $10 more per book than their unlimited standard volumes, so they definitely have a smaller print run.
Also note, if you pre-order them, you can get them for $10 off the normal selling price (i.e., the standard rate for unlimited run books). Best buy Reader's Choice books early.
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It's not capitalism. It's corporate ******** greed. And it does make them a con-artist, because they are conning people out of their money. It's one thing to make a 20% profit, and another to make 200% profit. Do you like paying $3 a gallon for gas, or would you be happy with paying $30 a gallon? Don't be an idiot, you idiot.
One can't dictate the scale of capitalism or greed. Besides, the exorbitant prices those books are being listed for are meaningless unless someone actually pays those prices. If someone does pay those prices, then by definition, capitalism occurred. Be patient and a reasonable price will eventually appear...no one is forcing anyone to pay an unreasonable price.
I doubt you will accomplish much as a new member trying to solicit help while calling people idiots. Good luck on not getting anyone here to help you.
I received my copy of The King in Yellow in September of 2018. I ordered it several months prior. That seems like a long enough window to purchase it if you wanted a copy. The Reader's Choice are limited print runs, not sure exactly how many, but EP says they don't do reprints.
King In Yellow.
Announced Mid March 2018
On the EP website Oct 2018
Sold Out Sept 2019
Reader's Choice titles generally are produced in a 500-1000 print run.
This title was available to order for 18 months.
What's the problem with this business model? I don't see it.
Thanks for the timeline update and the print run info wootle. Emily's estimate of the print runs seemed a bit low to me. BTW, where did you get those print run figures? Was this from an email interaction with EP?
I agree that the Readers Choice publication model is fine. Print enough to satisfy those who want to purchase them, and enough so that they don't sell out in 10 days. But don't print so many that they require storage in a warehouse for the next decade.
>9 sdawson: Just an educated guess mixed with some common sense. The interest of members here, the amount of time they usually stay in stock, when EP gets them added to the website with quantity remaining. From a financial standpoint in actually having them printed, they aren't going to have a binder produce 300 copies of a title, that would be cost prohibitive at their price point of $65. I think 500 minimum to make their profit margins somewhat work, but no more than 1000 so they don't stay in stock for two years, although a few titles have. I've never asked EP directly about the print run of RC titles, as I know they would not tell me. JMO
I emailed them directly about it. I just don't know why EP is forbidden from reprinting books they've already printed, especially when there is so much demand for them.
I.E. Henry James - The Turn of the Screw
Shirley Jackson - Haunting of Hill House
11: Well, you do realize there are these things called copyright laws?
EP has to get permission to print books such as Haunting of Hill House. In fact, any publisher has to get permission from the copyright holder for anything that is not in the public domain. The publisher may not agree to the terms, and that is that.
In the end, it is a question of math - if we purchase copyrights for $X, spend $Y designing & printing the book, can we sell enough copies to make $Z profit :D? We don't know if and how profitable Easton Press is, but may assume they know a bit of the aforementioned math. They are still around after all...
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