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Mdoris (Mary) reads in 2020 #2

This is a continuation of the topic Mdoris (Mary) reads in 2020 #1.

75 Books Challenge for 2020

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1mdoris
Edited: Apr 24, 6:00pm Top



Emily Winfield Martin

2mdoris
Edited: Apr 24, 6:01pm Top

Welcome to my thread. During this most unusual time I wish you and family and friends to all have and keep good health.

My name is Mary. I live in Comox, on Vancouver Island. I have been a member of LT since 2011 and I love it here. It is great to see what people are reading, to follow threads and to make new friends. I am a slow reader (it will be a miracle to reach 75!). Please don't kick me out of this wonderful group! I love to hold a book in my hands so haven't yet experienced the wonder of audio books.

Almost all my books are from the library. I love cookbooks and do get lots of them too but do not list them in my grand total count.

I have 4 daughters who have all flown the coop. They are all living far away and they now have little ones. Now I am Gramma to 7, 4 boys and 3 girls. I was passionate about kids' books when our kids were little and still read lots of the newly published ones too. I am a retired Speech/Language Pathologist and loving retirement.

Happy reading! Stay safe!

3mdoris
Apr 24, 5:59pm Top

Nearly every book has the same architecture — cover, spine, pages — but you open them onto worlds and gifts far beyond what paper and ink are, and on the inside they are every shape and power. Some books are toolkits you take up to fix things, from the most practical to the most mysterious, from your house to your heart, or to make things, from cakes to ships. Some books are wings. Some are horses that run away with you. Some are parties to which you are invited, full of friends who are there even when you have no friends. In some books you meet one remarkable person; in others a whole group or even a culture. Some books are medicine, bitter but clarifying. Some books are puzzles, mazes, tangles, jungles. Some long books are journeys, and at the end you are not the same person you were at the beginning. Some are handheld lights you can shine on almost anything.

The books of my childhood were bricks, not for throwing but for building. I piled the books around me for protection and withdrew inside their battlements, building a tower in which I escaped my unhappy circumstances. There I lived for many years, in love with books, taking refuge in books, learning from books a strange data-rich out-of-date version of what it means to be human. Books gave me refuge. Or I built refuge out of them, out of these books that were both bricks and magical spells, protective spells I spun around myself. They can be doorways and ships and fortresses for anyone who loves them.

And I grew up to write books, as I’d hoped, so I know that each of them is a gift a writer made for strangers, a gift I’ve given a few times and received so many times, every day since I was six.

Rebecca Solnit

4figsfromthistle
Apr 24, 6:10pm Top

Happy new one!

5jessibud2
Apr 24, 6:23pm Top

Happy new thread, Mary. Lovely peaceful topper!

6Caroline_McElwee
Apr 24, 6:33pm Top

>3 mdoris: That is such a great description, I enjoyed Solnit's memoir Mary.

7vancouverdeb
Edited: Apr 24, 8:14pm Top

Happy New Thread, Mary! What a lovely passage in >3 mdoris: Beautiful topper too. I have ordered Hamnet from the Book Depository , so I hope I have it in 3 weeks or so. Mary, your work as a speech pathologist fascinates me as I look back at my two sons and now my granddaughter. My eldest was somewhat slow to speak - just a word for dad, squirrel , that sort of thing - and then when my eldest was about 20 months old , we were tossing around a beach ball. Out of the blue Daniel said " I see a big ball!."I just about fell over with shock -and from there he spoke in sentences and always got his pronouns correct. My younger son spoke in the more typical fashion - gradually building from one word to two or three words and then into sentences. He never got pronouns wrong. Now Melissa seems to speaking very well and in sentences at 26 months but refers to herself as " Melissa" rather than " me." I find it so fascinating. I can see how easy it would be to mix up pronouns. How kids pick up language and express it is really interesting. I bet you had a fabulous career, though very busy with 4 children as well.

My poor sons were treated to reading books with mom from the day they came from the hospital. Daniel was so wakeful I decided we might as well pass the time with some books.

8PaulCranswick
Apr 24, 7:25pm Top

Happy new thread, Mary and Deb is right - >3 mdoris: Solnit's is a wonderful eulogy to the joy of reading.

9SandyAMcPherson
Apr 24, 7:29pm Top

>3 mdoris: >7 vancouverdeb: Yes. It was a lovely passage by one of my favourite writers. And Solnit, for me, was (is) always "...at the end you are not the same person you were at the beginning."

Mary, I forgot you live in Comox. Sigh... love that part of the Island, I do.

10mdoris
Edited: Apr 24, 7:56pm Top

Thank you wonderful visitors to my new thread, to Anita, Shelley, Caroline, Deborah, Paul and Sandy. Happy reading to you all!

11mdoris
Apr 24, 7:55pm Top

>7 vancouverdeb:, Yes, Deborah, it was a very interesting and challenging career. I was initially in a hospital practice so that involved helping people post strokes, stuttering, people with voice disorders and children with delayed speech and language and some on the autism spectrum. One of my first jobs was in Kingston, Ont. and I treated inmates from the various pens who needed help even visiting the prison at times. Now that was an experience! My last 16 years was in the education system and the tie in from language challenges to learning difficulties, (learning disabilities) I find fascinating. There is so much research happening in language acquisition that it was always a challenge ot keep on top of content and ideas. When I did my post grad training there were only 16 people admitted to the programme each year and we sure got to know each other!

Me too about the books for kids when ours were growing up. I always thought I could have been a librarian instead of a sp. path!

12msf59
Apr 24, 8:06pm Top

Happy Friday, Mary! Happy New Thread! I LOVE that Solnit quote in post #3. She really rocks! What collection is that from?

13jessibud2
Apr 24, 8:20pm Top

>11 mdoris: - In my work at my school, we always had SLPs on staff to work with our non-verbal kids as well as many of the others (autism, acquired brain injury, and others). The SLPs were invaluable in helping us teachers to create and forge alternate means of communication for our students, in order to enable them to learn. Such integral members of *the team*.

14mdoris
Edited: Apr 24, 8:31pm Top

Mark, sorry I can't tell you for sure where the Solnit quote is from. I copied and pasted it from my first thread because I liked it so much and I must have found it back in early January. My guess is that I might have found it on Brain Pickings or it might be found in Maria Popova new book A Velocity of Being: Letters to a Young Reader which I haven't read yet but have it reserved at the library, hmmmm patiently waiting.......

And a Happy Friday to you too! What do I hear about beer going stale these days? Aren't you doing your good efforts?

Found it!
https://www.brainpickings.org/2019/01/03/a-velocity-of-being-rebecca-solnit/

15drneutron
Apr 25, 4:42pm Top

Happy new thread!

16mdoris
Apr 25, 5:47pm Top

>15 drneutron: Thanks Jim!

17EBT1002
Apr 25, 11:11pm Top

Happy New Thread, Mary!

18mdoris
Apr 26, 4:14pm Top

I'm going to put another plug in for these meditation sessions with Dan Harris. They are daily Mon-Fri and REALLY good and have top notch meditation teachers involved . You can join and watch any time that is convenient for you and they are for beginners or advanced and address a lot of our concerns in the present moment with a Q&A time. They are also free. Please do try them!

https://www.tenpercent.com/live

19mdoris
Apr 26, 4:15pm Top

>17 EBT1002: Hi Ellen. Thanks! Hope all's good in your world and that you are staying safe and well.

20BLBera
Apr 26, 7:04pm Top

Happy new thread, Mary. I love the Solnit quote. Lovely. Your topper photo is great, too.

21mdoris
Apr 26, 8:36pm Top

>20 BLBera: Thanks Beth, I can't believe it's almost May. Time right now is weird!

22FAMeulstee
Apr 27, 9:51am Top

Happy new thread, Mary!

>1 mdoris: Lovely topper, reminds me of me when I was young :-)

>3 mdoris: Like Solnit books were my refuge from the time I learned to read.

23mdoris
Edited: Apr 27, 11:19am Top

>22 FAMeulstee: Hi Anita, Good to see you! That is good news about your early reading. I don't think i became much of a reader until I was an adult so I'm sure I missed out on some very good books. i was a huge "read aloud" reader when our kids were young so perhaps I made up for that lack a bit.

24SandyAMcPherson
Apr 27, 1:58pm Top

Hello on a Monday. Just popping by to see 'what's new'.

I believe that being a huge "read aloud" reader when our kids were young is the most valuable gift from a parent. And you'll be sharing that memory down through the years.

25mdoris
Apr 27, 3:06pm Top

>24 SandyAMcPherson: Happy to see you any old time Sandy and hello to you too on a Monday.

! I like to think that I helped make my girls the readers they are today because of the BIG book atmosphere we had in the house when they were growing up.

26mdoris
Apr 28, 12:27am Top

Just had a visit at Charlotte's thread and a discussion about her wonderful lithadora photo so I went and took a photo of mine now blooming with the rosemary also blooming in the background. Spring is the best!

27Familyhistorian
Apr 28, 1:10am Top

Happy new thread, Mary. I love your spring flowers.

28mdoris
Apr 28, 1:15am Top

>27 Familyhistorian: Thank you Meg, I was just visiting your thread.

29vancouverdeb
Apr 28, 1:32am Top

Lovely spring flowers, Mary! It was a beautiful day here today, but it has become windy this evening.

30mdoris
Apr 28, 10:59am Top

>29 vancouverdeb: Hello Deborah, Spring is so wonderful in the garden! I imagine that you get to see lots blooming on your walks with Poppy.

31Caroline_McElwee
Apr 28, 2:14pm Top

>26 mdoris: Lovely Mary.

32mdoris
Apr 28, 3:34pm Top

>31 Caroline_McElwee: Thank you Caroline. I do love blue flowers!

33lkernagh
Apr 28, 11:12pm Top

Happy new thread, Mary! I ventured into town yesterday (last time I was in downtown Victoria was end of February). What a surreal experience that was! Shuttered store fronts, some reduction in pedestrian and vehicle traffic (but not as much as I would have expected with so many businesses not open). It really hit home for me this new normal.

34mdoris
Edited: Apr 29, 12:51am Top

>33 lkernagh: Lori I know what you mean. I had a drive down Courtenay's main drag last week and so many stores were closed or empty, a little like a ghost town and others had line ups waiting to get in (the grocery stores). It is all very strange.

35vancouverdeb
Apr 29, 12:53am Top

I do get to see a lot of blooms on my walks with Poppy, yes, though she is not one to linger and smell the flowers. As the weather heats up , then she will be lying around in the grass, while I stand impatiently wanting to get my steps in. One can't win.

>26 mdoris: Gorgeous! Like you, I have a thing for blue flowers too.

36mdoris
Edited: Apr 29, 12:12pm Top



I got wandering on line this morning and was looking at a website of our local used bookstore Nearly New, which is a wonderful one, and found this...

link ( Books to give us hope). published in The Guardian June 2018.

37mdoris
Edited: Apr 29, 12:22pm Top

>35 vancouverdeb: For us Deborah it's often "all about books"!

Thee are several books about blue flowers but this is one I have had from the library and it's so good!



The upper right one is a blue poppy...great name don't you think! Also called Meconopsis. It is nearly impossible to grow (very particular) but isn't it stunning?

38Caroline_McElwee
Apr 29, 2:29pm Top

>32 mdoris: me too Mary. >37 mdoris: noting book.

39Familyhistorian
Apr 29, 3:54pm Top

When the lock down first started there were very few cars on the road but now I've started to notice more of them. Have you noticed that where you are, Mary?

40mdoris
Apr 29, 4:05pm Top

>39 Familyhistorian: For sure Meg. I really noticed it on highway travel. A few weeks ago the roads were almost deserted but now noticeably heavier. Still most stores are closed but i've noticed city traffic is also increasing. I'm not out and about much but it is something I've observed too.

41mdoris
Edited: Apr 29, 4:10pm Top

>38 Caroline_McElwee: Caroline, what is your favourite blue flowers?

Right now I'm loving navelwort/blue eyed Mary/omphalodes....I took some from our old house and planted it in our new house's garden but it is struggling to get going but right now putting out the sweetest blue flower.


(not my pic!)

42jessibud2
Apr 29, 5:38pm Top

Mary, I also love blue flowers and also - have you heard of this? - black flowers and plants. I have a book on them and when you plant them together with, say, white or pink flowers, it's gorgeous! If I can find my photos of them, I will post them.

Black Plants

43mdoris
Apr 29, 6:07pm Top

>42 jessibud2: Shelley, I have heard of black flowers but didn't know there were that many of them. I think there are black pansies and black hellebore that are so dark purple that they are considered black. I would love to see some photos!

44SandyAMcPherson
Apr 29, 9:44pm Top

I'm loving all this flower conversation. The ones in >41 mdoris: are my favourite.
I was once given seeds of "Blue Poppy" and assiduously followed the directions for planting and where to situate them.
Not a one germinated. Only later did an experienced gardener tell me how particular the culture is for them to flourish. I hear they cover vast meadows somewhere around the Gaspé Bay peninsula (Quebec).

45vancouverdeb
Apr 29, 10:30pm Top

>47 Those are such beautiful flowers, Mary! Hmm, I'm not sure if I've heard of black flowers. But I think I've seen some flowers like you that are so dark they are almost black. I'll have to google that.

46mdoris
Edited: Apr 29, 10:55pm Top

Thank you Sandy I have had more fun finding and looking at the blue poppies from the Jardins de Métis/Redford Gardens in Gaspé, (Quebec) web site. Wow, how wonderful would it be to be able to visit there when those beauties are in bloom. On the site they mention how rare and difficult it is to grow these poppies that originated in Tibet and favour altitudes of 3120 to 4000 metres. As you mentioned there is a glade of these gorgeous plants that have been growing since first planted by Elsie Redford in the 1930s. They bloom from mid June to the end of july. A road trip anyone? The seeds were first obtained from the Royal Botanical Garden in Edinburgh. i have been there and it is a gorgeous place! The reason they have done well in Gaspé is because of the conducive climate in the Lower St. Lawrence of humidity and cool nights.



They mention at the end of the article how to locate seeds.
https://www.refordgardens.com/discover-the-gardens/Blue-Poppy-Glade/
Will you try again?

47mdoris
Apr 30, 1:09am Top

>45 vancouverdeb: Deborah after Shelley mentioned black flowers I looked them up on he web and there are many choices, even a black rose. Hmmm, hard to get my head around the idea of black being an attractive colour for flowers.

48Caroline_McElwee
Apr 30, 6:57am Top

>41 mdoris: There are so many Mary, and I love these >46 mdoris:. I'm a big fan of alliums, and love the blue ones:



And of course cornflowers.

I'm an armchair gardener, but enjoy visiting gardens. One of my favourites is The Chelsea Physic Garden.

49mdoris
Edited: Apr 30, 12:21pm Top

>48 Caroline_McElwee: Caroline, yes of course blue alliums. i love the blue ones too (and the giant pink ones). I planted lots once and they disappeared probably due to the squirrels but I must try again. Cornflowers (bathelor buttons), I must look for them. I love visiting gardens too but I like the ones that are on the wilder side not the ones that are manicured. You would have amazing garden shows to go and visit! I will look up the Chelsea Physic Garden on line. One I love to visit is the Gardens at HCP in Victoria, B.C.. (Horticultural Centre of the Pacific) It is sadly closed right now.

50mdoris
Apr 30, 8:20pm Top

44 Scotland Street by Alexander McCall SMith borrowed from SIL p. 325



My SIL lent this one to me as she knew I was a fan of the A. McCall Smith Botswana series. It was a fun, light re-read for me having read it in Aug. 2011 (and I had forgotten). McCall Smith is a astute judge of character and seems knowledgable about the inner workings of people and their relationships but always written with a light touch which feels just about right these days. This is the first book in the series.

51SandyAMcPherson
Apr 30, 8:49pm Top

>46 mdoris: Nice overview for the Blue Poppies. Thanks!
The gardens look lovely in the Redford Garden photos.

And no, I won't try again. While we're in the central plateau of the continent (1,580 ft above sea level), it is still not very much altitude. Likely our climate has too much drying from the winds (both summer and winter); the soil can be very alkaline in my area too, so I'd rather not try. Perhaps these plants survive best in natural meadows, rather than urban gardens, yes?

52thornton37814
May 1, 6:08pm Top

Loving all the flowers -- the photos and the books!

53mdoris
May 1, 9:47pm Top

>52 thornton37814: Thanks Lori. Hope all's good in your world. What is spring like where you are?

54vancouverdeb
May 1, 10:25pm Top

>50 mdoris: Yes, a nice light touch for these times. I'm really enjoying my humourous , mystery series, Her Royal Spyness. Gorgeous blue flowers! I look up black flowers too and I suppose the appeal is that they are rare/ some thing different? Most flowers are not a true black, as far as I can see, but more like dark shades of purple or whatever , such that they look nearly black. I did see the black roses! Can you imagine black adorning a coffin? Maybe for the " goth crowd? "

55thornton37814
May 2, 8:50am Top

>53 mdoris: So far it's rather pleasant. We've had quite a bit of rain, but not super bad. Next chance is Sunday night so I'll be watering the garden later today. It's fine, but I want to keep it nice and moist but not overwatered. I think if I sprinkle it today, it will be fine until we get rain. Then it should be good most of the week because of the forecast.

56mdoris
May 2, 1:07pm Top

>54 vancouverdeb:, Deborah sorry to read that you had done a drastic reduction (culling) of your books in anticipation of a possible move. You are so good at ordering what you need to read though so good that you have some new books rolling in.

>55 thornton37814: Lori it sounds like you are keeping on top of the watering. We have clouds here today doing the job. We have a xeriscape summer here so I must only choose very drought tolerant plants and many of those have to be for shade so the choices get quite narrow. Happy spirng to you!

57mdoris
Edited: May 3, 8:27pm Top



My grand daughter 16 months old captivated by a book. I love it!

58jessibud2
May 3, 9:38pm Top

>57 mdoris: - Topper-worthy, for sure! What a lovely and candid moment captured, Mary.

59vancouverdeb
May 3, 9:38pm Top

Oh so cute! She is a darling, Mary ! I’m just walking Poppy , so I’ll be back later .

60mdoris
May 3, 11:15pm Top

>58 jessibud2:, >59 vancouverdeb: Thanks Shelley and Deborah. I couldn't resist posting it here! I just wish I could read her on of those books!

61vancouverdeb
Edited: May 4, 12:31am Top

Okay, now I am home and have had dinner, Mary. I can see the picture so much better on my desk top than my iphone. What a precious photo! She is adorable! Shelley is quite right, topper worthy for certain!

>56 mdoris: Marie Kondo, Mary! ;-)

62vancouverdeb
May 4, 12:53am Top

Ohh, - Mary, I had a special delivery today of a card that Melissa made for me. I was not home, so I could not wave at her. I used to make cards, about 10 years ago, but I gave most of my crafting goodies to my DIL , as she teaches elementary school, plus I'm trying to make some room in the house. Anyway, Melissa really enjoys making cards and just arts and crafts. I got a darling card with button flowers on it today. Perhaps tomorrow I'll take a picture and post it on my thread. I plan to frame it.

63mdoris
May 4, 1:01am Top

>61 vancouverdeb:, >62 vancouverdeb: Thank you Deborah for your kind words. i thought it was a pretty precious picture especially for book people!

OH Marie Kondo needs to put some pressure on me especially in the clothing department. Are you okay with the books that you ditched or do you wish they were back on your shelves?

How wonderful to receive a special card from Melissa. I once gave daughter #3 a book about how to make 3D cards, pop up cards, and now I get them from our grandson in Denver now 7. He is really crafty, so it's wonderful that you have sent your crafting goodies to get Melissa started. Nice! I look forward to seeing the card on your thread.

64vancouverdeb
May 6, 2:42am Top

I still have not taken a picture of Melissa's card, Mary, but I'll try to get to it tomorrow. Dave and I got our for a nice walk today, without Poppy. It was nice to be just the two of us. Poppy is lovely, but she is a distraction . Today is our once a week dog walker day. Freedom! Of course Dave just came in from her evening walk . It was really warm today, but Dave and Poppy got caught in a sudden downpour.

I'm glad your grandson is such a crafty fellow. I hope you are enjoying some nice warm days. Shorts weather soon.

65Familyhistorian
May 6, 9:55pm Top

>57 mdoris: That's a precious picture, Mary, and one that book lovers can appreciate for sure.

66mdoris
May 6, 10:38pm Top

>64 vancouverdeb: Deborah I am having trouble with the "junk'drawer. I cannot load up a picture. It is a picture of a blooming clematis in the garden. i'm afraid that I am doing way more outside work in the garden than reading. Oh well!

>65 Familyhistorian: Thank you Meg. I might use it as a thread topper some time. The book was upside down I've been told!

67Caroline_McElwee
May 7, 6:37am Top

>37 mdoris: I couldn't resist indulging in this Mary (different cover though). It's lovely, thanks for the recommendation.

68mdoris
May 7, 8:26pm Top

Well I like pink too, especially in these wonderful montana clematis blooming profusely right now.



I am outside tending to the garden more than reading but the books will show up sometime.

69mdoris
May 7, 8:27pm Top

>67 Caroline_McElwee: Caroline, tell me what you think of it when you get it! I went a bit crazy on the blue research years ago.

70vancouverdeb
May 7, 10:37pm Top

>68 mdoris: Gorgeous, Mary! As for the junk drawer, I've never really figured out to use it. Nancy aka Lit Chick had a handle on that - and perhaps Meg does too? I used it once or twice in the past, but it's too complex for me .

71mdoris
May 8, 12:23pm Top

>70 vancouverdeb: Life is good again. i was able to get Junk Drawer to work. Hurrah! Deborah, this weather is spectacular!

72lkernagh
May 9, 10:21am Top

Hi Mary, stopping by with happy weekend wishes for you. As per the conversations up thread, I also have noticed a recent uptick in traffic on the roads in Victoria.

Oh, blue flowers! I do love cornflowers. I seem to be finding a lot of purple flowers in my neighbourhood when I am out walking. A lot of that probably has to do with the lilacs and iris being in bloom at the moment.

>50 mdoris: - Great review. I also love McCall Smith's Botswana series. I did purchase the first five books in the Scotland Street series recently as an ebook bundle deal, so feeling good about that purchase now.

>57 mdoris: - What an adorable picture!

73jessibud2
Edited: May 9, 8:20pm Top

Mary, I spent several hours today culling photos from my computer. TONS. It was so very time-consuming and I've barely made a dent. However, of the folders I went through, I put the pictures I kept into properly labelled folders which, hopefully, will make it easier to find pictures I am looking for in the future. In the process, I did find some photos of my black pansies, planted with brightly coloured other flowers. Here is one:



Another angle:



74vancouverdeb
May 10, 1:07am Top

Ohh, everywhere I look , there are gorgeous flowers! Maybe I'll have to try to a few plants out beyond our pansies in the front.

Mary, I'm a big button fan, so I really love the card from Melissa on my thread too. I think she meant for a lot of those buttons to be flowers, with their green " leaves."

Today was lovely, yes! I am glad we have a breeze off the water. 22 C with a breeze is not too bad. That's about my ideal summer temperature! :-)

75charl08
May 10, 2:33am Top

I love all the flowers on your thread, Mary! Your clematis looks beautiful.

76BLBera
May 10, 8:37am Top

I love all the blue flowers here, Mary!

Your granddaughter is adorable; I love pictures of little ones reading.

77PaulCranswick
May 10, 11:30am Top

78mdoris
Edited: May 10, 4:58pm Top

>72 lkernagh: Hi Lori. i bet you are enjoying this blast of warm weather in Victoria. It is pretty fabulous on the coast! Glad that you like the flower pics. You must see amazing flowers on your walks. Victoria has the BEST climate for gardens.

>73 jessibud2: Thanks Shelley for posting those gorgeous pictures. Loved the black pansies. I have been in no garden shops and I sure miss them at this time of year.

>74 vancouverdeb: Hope you're having a great warm weekend Deborah. Are you catching the garden bug?

>75 charl08: Thanks Charlotte. I love clematis. I have a few Henryi blooming soon. They have a big white flower and the vine is quite contained. It is an older type and quite tough.

>76 BLBera: We heard later Beth that the book she was reading was upside down!

>77 PaulCranswick: Thank you Paul. Wondering what is happening with your family today? Is Mother's Day celebrated where you are living?



Henryi clematis, (not my pic.)

79SandyAMcPherson
May 11, 6:34pm Top

Love the clematis. That white one in >78 mdoris: is especially attractive.
I have an early type called 'Bluebird' but this year it has yet to sprout new growth. It's many years old and might have deteriorated, as they do in these parts.

80jessibud2
Edited: May 11, 6:49pm Top

I love the clematis, too. I have one in the front of my house. For years and years, I was lucky to see 2 or 3 flowers on it. Then suddenly, last summer, it exploded! I had TONS of flowers on it, both pale lavender and deeper purple flowers. I was so excited. It has buds on it already the with the snow we had this morning, and below zero temps overnight, it may be awhile till I see flowers. We should get back to *normal* seasonal temps later in the week. I had also bought a clematis for my backyard, one that was more tolerant of shade. I had to dig it up last fall along with all my other plants there so I am hoping it might have survived overwintering in my friend's garage. If not I guess I will have to find another.

The garden centre I like to go to isn't opening to the public but there is online shopping and curbside pickup. I may have to see how far their other 2 branches are and try them. I like to shop for plants in person, picking my own, not online

81Donna828
May 12, 10:26pm Top

Mary, your thread is a feast for the eyes! I love flowers of all kinds. I brought in some white peonies last night before the rain beat them down to the ground. They smell divine.

How adorable your granddaughter is reading her book. Who cares if it’s upside down. She apparently knows there is magic inside no matter how it is held.

82vancouverdeb
May 16, 2:14am Top

I'd like a hanging basket, Mary, but I've yet to get out to somewhere to chose something. I don't like to put baskets into my trunk ( spilled mud is my fear ), so I'll have to wait till I have Dave around with his SUV where we can better secure the hanging basket.

There is a gardening centre fairly near to me that is open, though they tell you " look with purpose and don't bring another person with you" . LOL! That will make it a bit of challenge since I need to do the choosing and Dave needs to do the transport. I'm sure they'll let us in one at a time. I guess they just don't want crowds of people browsing as is usual. Dave favours getting an in expensive hanging basket from Safeway, so we'll have to sort that out ;-)

I'm glad you are reading again. I look forward to see what you are reading. I'm a big binge of cozy mysteries and at a loss what to read next. I'm really missing browsing the library and physical bookstores. I look on amazon ca and a book looks maybe interesting, but I don't want to spend a lot of money only to find that I don't care for the book , ie Amnesty.

83mdoris
Edited: May 18, 12:47pm Top

>79 SandyAMcPherson: Nice to see you visit Sandy. The clematis contiue to bloom and I am grateful for last night's rain for the garden.

>80 jessibud2: Shelley, I love it when a plant decides to explode. i have one doing that right now a scabiosa (pincushion). It has a light purple colour and keeps putting out new flowers like an annual but it's not. Enjoy your spring gardening! I have a book about Clematis that I look at frequently. It lists all the clematis, their vine size, their flower size and colour, their best sun/shade locations. Lots to dream about!


scabiosa (pincushion) very tough and drough tolerant (NMP)

>81 Donna828: Thanks Donna. How wonderful to bring peonies into the house. I have a peony in my garden but it is really struggling and has never produced flowers. Yes, hope that grand daughter catches the magic of books!

>82 vancouverdeb: Deborah i haven't been to the nurseries either and I love them so it is a bit of a hardship. Oh well!

84mdoris
Edited: May 18, 1:04am Top

Trace Elements by Donna Leon library ebook p. 320, #29 in the Commissario Brunetti series.



This is the first time ever having read an ebook. Don't know why I have dragged my heels about ebooks in the past. I will read more of them. I do really like Donna Leon mysteries. I love to visit Venice, to visit the lovely couple Guido and Paulo and their children and to read the snide remarks that the author makes about the tourists in Venice. Leon always develops a good story line. i do appreciate the delicious food and coffee mentioned too! It was easy to read on my computer.

85vancouverdeb
May 20, 1:01am Top

Bravo you, Mary, reading an ebook! I have a kindle, but I never really gotten into using it. Wow, and you're reading it right on your computer? I am even more impressed.

86mdoris
May 20, 3:08pm Top

>85 vancouverdeb: The trouble is Deborah that I am spending WAY TOO MUCH TIME on the computer and this adds to it with all the backgrouond research I'm doing about the dreaded virus. But I wanted a light easy read and it hit the mark. Somehow my bookshelves of the ones I own are more heavy duty and not as easy to zoom through. Oh dear , the word "ZOOM" has been altered.

87charl08
Edited: May 20, 3:32pm Top

>83 mdoris: I have that in the garden. My mum told me that my gran liked it, so we dug a bit up and put it next to her grave stone. Hoping to go back when the restrictions lift and see if it has survived the winter.

88mdoris
May 20, 3:59pm Top

>87 charl08: Charlotte pincushion is such a great plant as it is as tough as nails and blooms continuously, which I love! Hope your gran's start up plant has survived the winter.

89SandyAMcPherson
May 22, 5:19pm Top

I wish I knew the secret to successfully growing Scabiosa. It never thrives for me, and it is such a good plant for other gardeners here. Maybe-perhaps-must be something in the soil?

90SandyAMcPherson
May 22, 5:41pm Top

>84 mdoris: What other titles do you recommend?
I am looking for e-Books to borrow and that title isn't in Overdrive for my PL location. Although there are many other titles listed (of Donna Leon's), what's a good one to start with?

91jessibud2
May 22, 5:59pm Top

Mary, I am so happy that I didn't cut back the clematis. Is it FULL of buds and will explode one of these days! I can't wait.

92PaulCranswick
May 24, 7:49pm Top

I am celebrating the end of Ramadan which is a time of thanks and forgiveness. I am thankful for my friends on LT.
Enjoy what is left of your Sunday, Mary.

93Familyhistorian
May 27, 2:06am Top

Your thread is blooming, Mary. It's so pretty. It has turned into cotton wood season here, hard not to touch your face when walking with all those white puff balls floating through the air.

94mdoris
Edited: May 27, 12:44pm Top

>89 SandyAMcPherson: Sandy the only thing I would say is sunshine and neglect to make the scabiosa (pincushion) work. In my garden they are in a very dry spot where the lavender and heather flourish. Good luck with them!

>90 SandyAMcPherson: Sandy, I have read 8 of Donna Leon's books and started about 2/3rds down the list of her mysteries. One of the books is her cookbooks of recipes from her books as there is lots of wonderful food/wine/coffee talk. I don't worry about the order of the mysteries as I don't think it's so critical in this series. I enjoy them and hope you do too!

>91 jessibud2: Shelley looking forward to seeing pics of your clematis. I have another deep purple one that got greatly cut back by "you know who and not me" so we shall see what it does. I have white ones (Henryi) about to burst and with many buds. Can hardly wait!

>92 PaulCranswick: Thank you Paul. I am greatly thankful too for friends on L.T. It is a special place!

>93 Familyhistorian: HI Meg. Our pup and her puppy pal are wreaking disorder in my garden at the moment but who cares when watching them is poetry in motion. Not aware of cottonwood around here. We will have much fluff from dandelions though. There are some monsters as big as dinner platters.

Doing some slow reading these days so not many books to add to add to the list.

95SandyAMcPherson
May 27, 3:58pm Top

>94 mdoris: Thanks, Mary. I think I read Book 1 ages ago, but I haven't membered anything about it. The detective name doesn't ring a bell, so I'm thinking it may have been another Italian mystery series.

I finished Book 2 last night (Death in a Strange Country) and was kind of disappointed. I'm going to try what you did, and pick a title 2/3rds down the list. Sometimes the author gets into the groove in writing a specific series and they get better as subsequent novels are published. There's a selection of them available on Overdrive and yes, it seems like they can be read out of order, with no spoilers for earlier ones.

96mdoris
May 27, 4:04pm Top

No reading I'm afraid, just gardening. Oh boy the weeds have gone crazy!



Caught this image this morning. It is a butterfly who first visited the scabiosa and then proceeded to the nepeta. It was lovely to see!

97mdoris
Edited: May 27, 4:18pm Top

>95 SandyAMcPherson: Hi Sandy. Glad that you are enjoying her books. I got completely hooked on the DVDs of the series after I found them in our library (also on MHz). So written by an American, living in Venice and language is in German with English subtitles. Interesting!



I loved these DVDs. 20 episodes are also on MHz which is available for Canadian subscribers. It is an awesome international streaming service. MHzchoice.com We have just been watching new Montalbano (based on the Andreas Camilleri books). They are slow but good, acting is wonderful, plots are not too intense and the scenery is out of the world.

98jessibud2
May 27, 5:03pm Top

>96 mdoris: - Tiger swallowtail!! Aren't they spectacular? How lucky to have one visit!

99mdoris
May 27, 6:51pm Top

>98 jessibud2: Completely spectacular Shelley and thank you for filling me in on the name. I had no idea!

100msf59
May 27, 7:18pm Top

>57 mdoris: Absolutely precious!

>96 mdoris: Is this a tiger swallowtail? We have them here too! I just got a nice photo recently.

Happy Wednesday, Mary!

101Caroline_McElwee
May 28, 3:35am Top

>96 mdoris: Wow, a beauty Mary.

102Donna828
May 28, 10:52am Top

Mary, I’m afraid that most of my peonies have been beaten down by too much rain. We’ve had over ten inches in May with more on the way later today. My granddaughters were here yesterday and were delighted to see a turtle come up from the lake and lay some eggs in a hole she dug just off the back patio. We watched from an upstairs window and also saw a chipmunk, a baby rabbit, and a yellow butterfly. I’m sad that two of my Butterfly bushes didn’t survive the winter. Most likely they were choked out by ground cover where they were growing. The big Butterfly Bush that I planted 20 years ago is still thriving. It blooms in mid-summer and attracts many different varieties of butterflies. The humming birds like it as well.

I have read very few Kindle books, although I have over 100 titles I’ve purchased over the years. I usually read them on my iPad unless I’m outside. My actual Kindle is easier on the eyes in that case. I am currently 10% into Happiness by Aminata Forna. Must get back to it before I need to recharge the device. I’m not sure why I abandoned it as it is my kind of book. Thanks for the reminder.

103SandyAMcPherson
May 28, 8:02pm Top

>96 mdoris: What a gorgeous photo! I didn't know the name of the butterfly either. I see them here now and then, but have given up using my phone camera!

104charl08
May 29, 7:13am Top

>96 mdoris: Lovely picture of the butterfly. They usually move too fast for me!

105mdoris
May 29, 12:39pm Top

>100 msf59: Yes, Mark it's a tiger swallowtail. I don't know my butterflies but Shelley does thank goodness! Wishing you a good weekend.

>101 Caroline_McElwee: Thanks Caroline. Lots of sunshine and warmth to make everything grow here (especially the weeds!).

>102 Donna828: Hi Donna, That is a lot of rain that you have had. Fun to watch the turtle laying her eggs. Not fun to lose a butterfly bush. I am trying to figure out what that is? Is it a buddleja? Our former neighbour had one but I think it was planted in the wrong spot and got to be scraggly and didn't flower well. Sorry that you lost yours!

I don't have a kindle but will be downloading more books to my computer from the library site, especially if the library stays closed for much longer.
Sigh.....

>103 SandyAMcPherson: Thank you Sandy. You sure have to be fast with your camera. We weren't able to get as close as the photo implies. I did crop it!

>104 charl08: Hi Charlotte. Do you get many butterflies where you live?

106mdoris
May 29, 1:27pm Top

There is a frenzy at the feeder these days. Think there might be a new hatch and these are the newly flying babies. There can be up to 7 feeding at once. We are filling up the big red flower twice a day now.

107vancouverdeb
May 29, 7:32pm Top

Ohh, gorgeous feeder , view and birds, Mary! Just heading out to get my trimmed and coloured . I have not had it done since the end of Janurary, so I'm uncertain on much I want cut off. The dilemmas we find ourselves in life ;-)

108msf59
May 29, 7:55pm Top

>106 mdoris: This is awesome, Mary. Wow! Do you know what kind of hummingbirds these are? Do they all seem to be the same species?

109BLBera
May 29, 8:22pm Top

I'm a Donna Leon fan as well, Mary. I didn't know there was a series. Is it worthwhile? In German, huh? Interesting. I just read Waters of Eternal Youth, so I am not quite caught up, but I love the food in these books and the glimpses of Venice.

110lkernagh
May 30, 1:22pm Top

>96 mdoris: - Fabulous picture, Mary!

111mdoris
Edited: May 31, 5:22pm Top

Here's another grand daughter Emily 10 months. She loves books too! She's far away but I sure wish I could get my mitts on her and read her a story or two.....sigh.

112jessibud2
May 31, 5:59pm Top

Well, the love of books is clearly in the genes! Such a sweet pic! Is she the one in Iceland?

113vancouverdeb
Jun 1, 12:49am Top

>111 mdoris: Oh, Emily so darling! Good Night Moon- such an excellent choice. I'll bet you'd love to get your mitts on here, Grandma Mary. I believe it is Anouk who was in Iceland ? How is she doing ?

114mdoris
Edited: Jun 1, 1:08pm Top

Cutting for Stone by Abraham Verghese my own shelves p. 658



This is a whopper of a book in size and don't know how/why it took me so long to get to this popular one until now. It feels like a bit of an old fashioned book with a wide sweeping story, full of love (family and romantic) dislocation of geography from birth, international living situations (Ethiopia to U.S. and back), and the draw of personal passions (medicine and surgery). The story involves identical twins and that is another interesting layer. This was a good story, well told and well written although for me there were a few weak spots.

115mdoris
Edited: Jun 1, 12:59pm Top

>107 vancouverdeb: Hi Deborah, How did the hair trim go? I have to wait until mid June (yikes) and then it will be 4 months. Hope you have found a car for your son!

>108 msf59: HI Mark, I believe they are Anna's hummingbirds. They are so small and energetic and right now a bit frantic. We are going through 3 fill ups a day. Yes, they are all the same species. P. thinks there is one Rufus around but that he doesn't visit often. P's spotting is better than mine. One morning the feeder was empty and P was buzzed at the bedroom window to "hurry up and fill my feeder" by a starving hummingbird. The nerve, P slept in and didn't fill the feeder near the living room! Sometimes if we are away and have to take down the feeder, the first thing we notice on return is a buzzing at the window. "FILL IT UP! "

>109 BLBera: Yes, Beth the Brunetti series is VERY worthwhile. I am 100% fine with subtitles. Are you? They are so well done. I do like Leon's observations (some snide remarks)! I too love the glimpses of Venice and the food talk. Have you seen the cookbook?
Brunetti's Cookbook

>110 lkernagh: Hello Lori Thank you. Do you get butterflies near you? You must be enjoying your kayak adventures!

>112 jessibud2:. Hi Shelley, This grand daughter is in Denver and they have just (Saturday) moved into a new house. We got the tour and meanwhile Emily was into the book pile so I thought I would post it. The Iceland daughter is now back living in Kamloops, which is still quite a trek from where we are. Thank goodness for video visits!

How's your garden?

>113 vancouverdeb: Hello Deborah. Nice to see you! You are right it was Anouk who was in Iceland and who is now in Kamloops and is doing very well .>57 mdoris: Here she is reading a book (upside down we were told). Clever eh!!! Of course birthdays are coming up and I have found the most wonderful book to send.


In my heart A Book of Feelings

116jessibud2
Jun 1, 1:48pm Top

>114 mdoris: - Mary, this is the first Verghese book I experienced and I did it as an audiobook. The narrator, Sunil Malhotra, is easily one of the best narrators ever. I have read all of Verghese's other books, as well, all great.

117mdoris
Jun 1, 3:11pm Top

>116 jessibud2: What other one would you recommend?

118jessibud2
Edited: Jun 1, 4:44pm Top

>117 mdoris: - My Own Country and The Tennis Partner are both non-fiction, his own story of coming to the States working in the early years of AIDS with patients that no one else wanted to work with. Both were excellent reads, so well-written and heart-wrenching. I think those are t he only ones he's written and I have read them all, but I now he wrote, I think it was an introduction to Paul Kalanithi's When Breath Becomes Air, as well.

Verghese and Atul Gawande are both doctors who are also excellent writers and communicators. I have 2 left of Gawande's to read, having already read 2 or 3.

119mdoris
Edited: Jun 1, 4:55pm Top

>118 jessibud2: Hi Shelley, Yes I have read Atul Gawande and the Paul Kalanithi book you mentioned. Gawande often writes for the New Yorker mag and I gobble up anything that I can find of his to read. He is so insightful and balanced.

Thank you for the Verghese ideas. I will see if the library has them. Also i must read Siddhartha Mukherjee! Read a Norman Doidge book earlier this year and it was interesting too!

120jessibud2
Jun 1, 6:28pm Top

>119 mdoris: - I did review both the Verghese books I mentioned, above, Mary. If you click on them, my reviews are in there. I have a Doidge book somewhere in the stacks here.

121vancouverdeb
Edited: Jun 1, 6:49pm Top

Hi Mary, no as, yet, no car. It's a challenge at our price point. And then Dave works 5 on and 5 off , and he is exhausted on his 11.5 hour work days. So the car seems to be slow progress. Today my own Toyota is spending the day at the Toyota place for its 6 month checkup in order to keep it's warranty. It's been there since 8:30 am, and apparently there was some Toyota problem such that they had to change some electric harness??? . I had received a notice from Toyota that air bags needed replacing due to problems with whatever Toyota installed, but when Dave took it in this am, they told him that the air bags are fine, but in addition to the oil change / check up etc it needed some sort electricalal harness work. Don't ask me. This is why Dave is looking for a car for Daniel and I'm not. Daniel is looking to and sending us links to cars he thinks look good , and checking them out when Dave is at work. Coordinating the two is a challenge.

As for the hair trim, it was so nice to get my hair trimmed. However, I also had been 4 months in between cuts, so I was quite sure how much I wanted to cut off. So I told her just 1/2 inch off and now I'm wondering if I left it too long?

I really enjoyed Cutting For Stone many years ago. I read it shortly after it was published, and really enjoyed it.

Such a cute book , In My Heart a Book of Feelings. I know my daughter in law is fan of Jo Witek. I have to be careful with my book purchases for Melissa because both Grandma and her parents tend to like the same books. Great minds and all of that ;-)

122BLBera
Jun 4, 11:04am Top

I have the cookbook and have been looking through it recently. I think I'm going to try the apple cake.

123vancouverdeb
Jun 5, 1:57am Top

Got the car this evening for our son. Life is back to normal! Hurrah!

124jessibud2
Jun 5, 8:00am Top

Congrats to all! yay!

125mdoris
Jun 5, 8:12pm Top

>120 jessibud2: Shelley no luck at the library with the Verghese books. They only have his fiction, not his non fiction. Too bad!

>121 vancouverdeb: Thanks for the info about Witek Deborah. I didn't know she had other books and I will look for them.

>122 BLBera: Beth, how was the apple cake? I have so many recipes for apple cake and happy to share a fav. if you would like. It's called Aunt Olive's apple pie cake and I found it once while visiting the dentist's office. I have shared it with so many people as it is a really good one. I have made it so many times!

>123 vancouverdeb: YES. YES., YES!!! That is really great news Deborah that you have a car for your son and now life can return to normal.

>124 jessibud2: And you Shelley is your life back to normal with your "ongoing" renovations finsihed? Hope so! Having fun in the garden?

126jessibud2
Edited: Jun 5, 8:38pm Top

>125 mdoris: - Oh, Mary. You have asked me the wrong question. At noon today, all was well and I was thrilled as my air conditioner was moved from storage in the garage back to the backyard and re-hooked up again. Finally, A/C. within an hour or so, the A/C guy needed to go check something on the furnace, and opened the basement door and stepped up to his ankles in water. The sewage backup again! Three weeks to the day since the last one. It has been the day from hell here and it isn't over yet. I am so done with this place. But I can't move. Anyhow, it may be some time before I can sit and start a new thread. I can't even read today, I have been so aggravated

127mdoris
Jun 5, 8:47pm Top

>126 jessibud2: That is the worst news Shelley. I am so sorry that you are having to deal with this again and again, over and over. That is dreadful!

128mdoris
Edited: Jun 8, 1:09am Top

The Henryi clematis, a really old fashioned one is in full bloom. I love clematis!

129vancouverdeb
Jun 6, 12:52am Top

Oh, gorgeous clematis, Mary! As for Jo Witek, my daughter in law was keen on her book, Hello in There!: A Big Sister's Book of Waiting. Since Melissa is getting a little brother in September, I guess that would be a suitable book. I had purchased a big sister book for Melissa, but the same one as my DIL had already purchased . Great minds and all of that.

130mdoris
Jun 6, 10:59am Top

>129 vancouverdeb: Deborah, that is a very hot tip. Thank you. I am off to investigate! Is there another book that you will suggest? If so I will get busy and send them.

131SandyAMcPherson
Jun 6, 1:55pm Top

>128 mdoris: I adore this old-fashioned variety, too. *sad face* we can't grow it here in our zone (2b or not to be, as the pundits joke).

I'm so sorry for Shelley's ongoing angst in her basement flooding. It seems completely irresponsible that a sewer back-flow valve (that shuts when the effluent starts flowing the *wrong* way) wasn't installed originally. I think the whole thing should never fall on the owners when they have to pay such outrageous monthly 'maintenance' fees. Maybe I don't understand the set up...

132vancouverdeb
Edited: Jun 7, 1:02am Top

Well, Mary, it's not often I can give a hot tip. I confess I don't know a lot about Jo Witek's books, but it you click on her name, it will take you to her other children's books. What I do from there is look at the titles on amazon and you can usually see a few pages. Another thing I have resorted to doing to chose a book for Melissa is to take the title and go to you tube . Many young children's book are read aloud on youtube and so I can see the picture and hear the story. The lengths we go to for our grandies!

here is one example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE4AJP68IPI

and another https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i4L2mITBfE

It's amazing what you can find on you tube.

133mdoris
Jun 7, 11:19am Top

>132 vancouverdeb: Fabulous idea Deborah to check out a book on You Tube. Thanks for the links! I will do that. i have been doing some research into books for toddlers when a new baby comes along and there are lots of books out there to choose from and even some links to other people making suggestions. I do love researching!

134Donna828
Jun 7, 5:29pm Top

Your Clematis is gorgeous, Mary. Mine is too much in the shade and doesn’t flower as much as I’d like. Yes, my butterfly bush is a Buddleia. When I looked it up, I noticed that they are only supposed to live about 20 years, so my remaining one may be on its “last hurrah”.

Cutting For Stone was a favorite in the year I read it. I like old-fashioned books. They suit my old-fashioned personality. ;-)

135vancouverdeb
Edited: Jun 9, 12:38am Top

Mary, here is the book I purchased for Melissa on the topic of being a big sister. You can skip ahead to where they show the book and interior. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-psAWo-Zso

I also check out toys on youtube prior to purchasing. I don't always find every toy that I have in mind, but often I do. With so many toy stores closed, or not close by, I tend to order from amazon , and it's nice to see how the toys actually work in real life.

I do a lot of research on line too, as far as gifts for Melissa go. It's amazing what is out there.

136BLBera
Jun 9, 2:39pm Top

Mary: I would love your recipe for a great apple cake. My oven died, so as I write, I am having a new stove delivered, so I haven't tried the one from the Brunetti cookbook yet. Maybe later, to give my new stove a whirl.

137mdoris
Edited: Jun 9, 3:08pm Top

>136 BLBera: Hope you will like it Beth. It is a great one for those apples that have sat in your fridge for too long and you want to deal with them. It is different too because while a cake it is made in a pie dish.

Aunt Olive's Apple Pie Cake

1/4 c. butter
1 c sugar
1 egg
1/4 tsp salt
1 tsp cinnamon
1/2tsp nutmeg
1 tsp b. soda
1 c. flour
1/2 c. chopped pecans (optional)
2 1/2 c. of shredded apples (I use the course side of a cheese box shredder). The original recipe called for diced but I like the shredded a lot better!
2 tbsp. of hot water (some times I don't use this if the apples are really moist
1 tsp vanilla

mix, (I'm sure you know the order) and put in a greased pie glass pie plate and cook for 45 min. at 350. When cooled dust with some icing sugar so it looks like snow. (sieve and spoon).
As I said I got this recipe while waiting in a dentist reception area and I have made it and shared it a million times. Enjoy!

Sorry to hear that your stove died. Hope the new one is a good one.

138BLBera
Jun 9, 4:06pm Top

Thanks Mary. My stove was 30 years old. If the new one lasts that long, I will be happy.

139mdoris
Jun 9, 5:55pm Top

Wow, Beth, that stove didn't owe you anything!

140Caroline_McElwee
Jun 10, 8:00am Top

>137 mdoris: ooo, I can taste it. Noting recipe, thanks Mary.

141mdoris
Jun 13, 11:18pm Top

>140 Caroline_McElwee: Let me know if you make it Caroline. I must make soon to!

142mdoris
Edited: Jun 14, 12:26am Top

Underland A Deep Time Journey by Robert Macfarlane p. 425 off the home shelves



This was another amazing book by Robert Macfarlane!

He allows you to be an armchair adventurer tagging along with him by going to impossible places. In our daily lives we mostly view things above the earth's crust (except perhaps parking garages below ground) but Macfarlane takes us to places below ground that make you view the world so differently. It creates a conceptual difference reading this book. He takes you to caves and cave art, to glacier's moulin (the funnels that plunge below glacier surface like whirlpools), to deep underground storage units for storing nuclear waste, to the catacombs below Paris, to cave art in remote Norway (Lofotens) to the communications of tree and plant roots.

I read this book very slowly and jumped off often to You Tube clips to bring the places or events into a visual focus such as watching calving of glaciers in Greenland and the cave treks in England where the tragic accident of Neil Moss occured in 1959.

In his writing Macfarlane is never far from his environmental concerns for climate change, the plastics in the sea, the need to make our geologic time be known as Anthropocene.

Marfarlane is such a gifted and poetic writer and captures many levels of the experiences he expertly shares with us. What a great book this is!

143vancouverdeb
Jun 14, 1:28am Top

>142 mdoris: That sounds like a fascinating book, Mary. Great comments. And off the home shelves.

Your apple pie cake sounds delicious! So good, I best look away. I had both sons around today. Daniel was here for assistance with his new used car. Dave was able to get the air conditioning working , which was great and he gave a good going over. Daniel seemed very pleased. Then I had a sudden call from William and he was outside the door. He had a box of freshly picked strawberries and I had some little gifts for Melissa. So we had a nice exchange. They are still being very careful about social distancing. I hope to see Melissa soon. It has been quite while.

144mdoris
Jun 14, 12:21pm Top

>143 vancouverdeb: Thanks Deborah! Enjoy every moment of those visits you get with your "boys". Hoping you get to see Melissa soon. I see that the U.S./Canada border closures are being extended so the summer visits we were greatly looking forward to will not be happening. Oh boy!

145charl08
Jun 14, 2:14pm Top

>142 mdoris: I was waiting for this one to come out in paperback - I wonder if it has yet! (Nope, August.) Thanks for whetting my appetite for it.

146vancouverdeb
Jun 14, 6:22pm Top

Yes, I had not thought about that, Mary. With the US / Canada borders, you are really cut off from your family. I'm sorry to hear that and properly realize that. That is hard. I hope soon you can see your grandies and daughters and SIL's. This pandemic has certainly thrown a wrench into things.

147lkernagh
Jun 14, 7:19pm Top

Stopping by to get caught up, Mary. Seeing Deb's comment >146 vancouverdeb: and wondering, would any of the family members fit the new exception that recently went into effect? I know it is a very restricted list of who qualifies but I think we still need to do baby steps when it comes to opening up. It is hard, no doubt about that!

148mdoris
Edited: Jun 16, 12:26pm Top

This is what my daily walk in the British Columbia woods looks like.



I am presently reading a book about mosses and there so many mosses to look at.
The smooth bark trees are cedar. the bumpy bark (behind the mossy green one) is fir.

149jessibud2
Jun 16, 7:58am Top

Speaking of mosses, have you ever read The Signature of All Things by Elizabeth Gilbert? The study of mosses is one small part of the story but it was a great read.

That pic in >148 mdoris: is beautiful!

150mdoris
Edited: Jun 17, 5:15pm Top

>145 charl08: Charlotte I think you will love it when you can find the soft cover of it! Happy reading.

>146 vancouverdeb: Fingers crossed that things will sort soon. At least now we can travel witnin B.C. That is good news!

>147 lkernagh: Hi Lori. I am thinking that the exemptions would have to be medical or related to family tragedy, but I'm not sure. I have read of people sneaking through driving from the U.S. and hanging out in Banff saying that they were drving through to Alaska. "untruthy"!

>149 jessibud2: Yes, yes, and yes. Hi Shelley. I loved that E. Gilbert book Signature Of All Things and became very interested in mosses as a result. I am in moss heaven here and am just reading Gathering Moss by the guru in the field Robin Wall Kimmerer. Interesting because in my previous book read Underland he refers to this author and it inspired me to get it off the home shelf where it has been languishing for far too long. I will take some pictures of mosses to show. They are fascinating and beautiful! The colours are amazing.

151vancouverdeb
Jun 17, 1:02am Top

>148 mdoris: Gorgeous picture ! Old growth forest. Loki looks to be in his element. It was a rather rainy day here yesterday. Enjoy Gathering Moss.

152BLBera
Jun 17, 10:20am Top

>148 mdoris: What a lovely photo, Mary.

The Macfarlane sounds good.

153Caroline_McElwee
Edited: Jun 17, 3:37pm Top

>148 mdoris: lovely photo Mary, and Loki looks like she is enjoying herself too.

>142 mdoris: it's in the teetering pile.

>150 mdoris: I too am reading Gathering Moss Mary, I read an interview with Kimmerer recently, and bought both her books.

154mdoris
Edited: Jun 18, 5:25pm Top

>151 vancouverdeb: HI Deborah. Yes, Loki is a happy camper in the woods. It is so wonderful have her off leash and following her nose. NIce sunny day here today and hoping that you and Poppy will have a wonderful walk.

>152 BLBera: Hi Beth, Thank you. I will be trying to make my way through all the Macfarlane books over time.

>153 Caroline_McElwee: Hi Caroline. That's very interesting that you are reading Gathering Moss too. It has languised on my shelf after being given the book by daughter #2. I had been raving back when I read Signature of All Things and she gave it to me then. It flows so much like the Macfarlane book I just finished and I am really liking it. Macfarlane even refers to her in his recent book. I will try and take some moss pictures on our walks. It is moss heaven where I live because of all our rain. The variety is outstanding, ooops wrong word when they live so close to the ground!

155jessibud2
Jun 17, 6:11pm Top

>150 mdoris: - Mary, is it just a coincidence? Today's mid-week version of the Brain Pickings newsletter highlights the book, Gathering Moss. Did you know that?

156msf59
Jun 17, 6:46pm Top

Happy Wednesday, Mary. Hooray for Underland! I also loved this book and really NEED to read more Macfarlane.

>148 mdoris: I love it! These look like some mighty fine woods. I even like the moss.

157mdoris
Edited: Jun 17, 9:35pm Top

>155 jessibud2: No I didn't know that Shelley. I should devote more time to Brain Pickings because when I do I really appreciate it. I guess there are just too many weeds in my garden and oh my goodness, I already do too much screen time. That is a big coincidence!

>156 msf59: Hi Mark, glad that you like the photo. Me too I have more Macfarlane I want to read! i like how he makes you view the world a bit differently.

159charl08
Jun 19, 4:05am Top

>158 Caroline_McElwee: Lovely to read it was published by a small press, too. I wonder what that has done for their plans!

Adding both her books to the wishlist.

160Donna828
Jun 20, 1:45pm Top

>137 mdoris: I favorited (hmmm, is that a word?) your Apple Pie cake recipe to be made in the fall. Do you use Granny Smith apples?

Great comments on Underland. I rather wish I had gone the extra mile and explored some You-Tube videos to make the experience even more rewarding.

Loved the Loki picture! Hmmm, now you’ve gotten me interested in reading about mosses. Temptress!

161PaulCranswick
Jun 29, 7:01pm Top

Just stopping by to wish you well, Mary.

162vancouverdeb
Jun 29, 7:03pm Top

Stopping by to say hi, Mary. Hope all is well.

163jessibud2
Jun 29, 7:11pm Top

Me, too. Hi, Mary! Hope you are doing well! How is your garden? Mine is shriveling and dying in our baking heat and humidity. Waaaahhhh :-(

164mdoris
Jun 30, 12:07pm Top

Thank you my friends for keeping my thread warm. The days are flying off the calendar with lots of outside jobs to do and little reding being done on my end but still loving visits and loving my visits to other threads. I will get back to you all soon.

165mdoris
Edited: Jun 30, 4:23pm Top

Gathering Moss A Natural and Cultural History of Mosses by Robin Wall Kimmerer off the home shelves p. 162



Oh boy, this one has been sitting on my home shelves for a very long time. After I read Elizabeth Gilbert book The Signature of All Things about mosses I had planned to read this book. Daughter #2 gave it to me. She is an outside kind of girl and greatly interested in sustainability so there was a good reason that she too loved this book. I read it slowly. It is written by a bryologist with a gift as a writer. Each chapter has a different theme and there is lots to be learned here. I live in "mossland", a coastal rain forest so there are mosses everywhere. The book has opened my eyes to observing and appreciating them. Interesting as the previous book I read the Macfarlane one, makes high claims for Kimmerer's contributions so in some wasy the two books I have read in a row are connected.

Thank you to >158 Caroline_McElwee: to Caroline for the information about the interview with Kimmerer.

Thank you to >155 jessibud2: Shelley for bringing my attention to the recently published review of Gathering Moss in Brain Pickings. It is a recycled review from a previous Brain Pickings.
https://www.brainpickings.org/2015/05/13/gathering-moss-robin-wall-kimmerer/

While I greatly look forward to the libraries being operational again, it has been wonderful to grab some of these books from the home shelves that have been languishing for far too long there!

166mdoris
Edited: Jun 30, 4:19pm Top

>158 Caroline_McElwee: Thanks Caroline for the link to the interview! It is a good one!

>159 charl08: Charlotte, I will try and find her other book now too.

>160 Donna828: Donna fall sounds just about right for the recipe. It is such a good one when there are apples too soft to enjoy a bite out of them. I use whatever apples needs attention but Granny Smith would be good. You are SUCH a temptress on your thread with all the wonderful books that you read! So pot calling the kettle........

>161 PaulCranswick: Very nice to see you visit Paul. I am amazed at your book collection that I see on your thread.

>162 vancouverdeb: Hi Deborah. Lovely to see the announcement of the September baby boy on your thread. Such good news!

>163 jessibud2: Sorry to hear Shelley about your parched garden. We have had endless rain and cool so the plants are loving it while I am NOT! WAAAAAHHHHH on this end too!

167mdoris
Edited: Jun 30, 4:05pm Top

These are the amazing mosses I see on my dailly walk. Lucky me!








168raidergirl3
Jun 30, 4:12pm Top

Walks take on new observations after reading Gathering Moss. I did the same thing (pics) after I read this book. I so enjoyed this book.

169mdoris
Edited: Jun 30, 4:22pm Top

>167 mdoris: HI Elizabeth, have you read her more recent one Braiding Sweetgrass?

170vancouverdeb
Edited: Jul 1, 1:25am Top

Oh, such gorgeous green pictures, Mary!I love the colours. By the way, I finished Hamnet by Maggie O'Farrell. It one the women's prize shortlist and it's a masterpiece, I think. You'll want to get your hands on it!

I can't say my walks compare at all. They are pretty in their way, but nothing like your walks!

171mdoris
Jun 30, 7:39pm Top

>170 vancouverdeb: Hi Deborah. I know your walks are gorgeous too by the sea shore and with Poppy for delightful company! I know I have Hamnet on reserve at the library but still my local library is not up and running so it might be a while. Thanks so much for the recommendation. I look forward to reading it!

172Caroline_McElwee
Jul 1, 2:05pm Top

>167 mdoris: beautiful photographs Mary. I'm still, slowly, enjoying the Kimmerer book. I like to sip a chapter, but not rush on.

173vancouverdeb
Jul 1, 6:21pm Top

Happy Rainy Canada Day, Mary!

174BLBera
Jul 1, 6:48pm Top

>167 mdoris: Great photos, Mary.

175SandyAMcPherson
Jul 4, 12:10am Top

I wanted to reserve Hamnet after seeing Deb's thread (and enthusiasm).

The thing is, all that shows in Overdrive (and physical books) is Hamnet and Judith (isbn 9780735280175 for the hardcover). Is this a sequel? I'm coming up dry when I try to find out about these 2 novels.

176jessibud2
Jul 4, 8:02am Top

>175 SandyAMcPherson: - Sandy, I had found the same thing and didn't reserve it. Turns out, it is the same book, with the slightly different title. Apparently, publishers in different countries do that sometimes. Maybe copyright issues? I don't know. Sort-of like the way Lawrence Hill's The Book of Negroes is called Someone Knows My Name in the States and Simon Winchester's The Professor and the Madman is also titled The Surgeon of Crowthorne. The former was the title in North America and the latter in England. Go figure. I wish there was a warning or notice of this on the cover. I discovered the Winchester one by starting to read the second one only to discover it sounded awfully familiar and that's when I did a bit of homework to figure it out.

177mdoris
Edited: Jul 4, 5:44pm Top

>172 Caroline_McElwee: Hi Caroline. I read the Kimmerer book slowly too. Love how you said "sip a chapter". We sometimes do that!

>173 vancouverdeb: Hi Deborah. Hope you had a great Canada Day! Was there anything special that happened to celebrate in Richmond?

>174 BLBera: Thank you Beth, glad that you liked the photos!

>175 SandyAMcPherson:, >176 jessibud2: Great Sandy and Shelley that you got the Hamnet titles sorted out. I just ordered it and it will be released in Canada July 21st. I did my first pick up at the local library and it was so weird and limited. Oh well, better than nothing (I guess!!!).

178SandyAMcPherson
Jul 4, 10:59pm Top

>176 jessibud2: Hi Shelley, just caught up with you after reading your comment on my thread.
Deb and Laura also had some experience with this. So now I know. Thank you.

I think LT has listed these alternative titles in the touchstones or common knowledge. So maybe that will help sort things out.

179PaulCranswick
Jul 5, 7:42am Top

>167 mdoris: I love those photos, Mary. Like you I am fond of moss but I cannot really think why. It is comforting somehow!

180mdoris
Jul 5, 9:15pm Top

>178 SandyAMcPherson: Good to know Sandy abut common knowledge. I don't look there!

>179 PaulCranswick: Following your wonderful words Paul to our LT pals living in the USA. Well said!

Yes, moss is comforting. It is everywhere in my environment so I had better like it! Reading the Larson book about Churchill and it's good.

181vancouverdeb
Jul 5, 10:19pm Top

Stopping by to say hi, Mary. No, nothing special on Canada Day. Everything was " virtual " as far as celebrations go and everyone seems to social distancing. It was a rainy , overcast day too. Today was lovely and after I walked Poppy I thought I'd treat myself to a child sized Coke Slurpee from 7/11. Mistake! Much too sweet! I have not had one in some 20 years and it seemed tempting. I wish I'd just had a small coke with ice instead. Lesson learned. :-)

182streamsong
Jul 7, 1:01pm Top

Hi Mary - Your garden is so beautiful! And your woods! Oh my! I especially love >148 mdoris: and all the beautiful moss. So much different than my cottonwood creek bottom and the surrounding mountain forests which are mostly pine.

I really enjoyed Cutting For Stone when my book club read it a few years ago.

I was curious to see what you would think of Underland: A Deep Time Journey. It sounds like one that I would enjoy very much.

183charl08
Jul 8, 2:32am Top

Just lurking mostly, Mary. I heard Nina Mingya Powles talk about her new poetry collection last night (online). She mentioned her other book that is coming out soon, a collection of essays about water and swimming. I thought of you!

184msf59
Jul 8, 6:38am Top

I am going to start calling you Moss Mary, although that really doesn't sound flattering. Grins...I like reading books about nature and know little about moss, so I may try this book or a similar one.

185mdoris
Jul 9, 11:49am Top

>181 vancouverdeb: Deborah this is crazy coastal weather. Sure hope summer decides to visit soon. But I guess we can't complain when we hear about Toronto weather. We have visitors, little 18 month grand daughter with us right now, so life is busy and of course no reading being done. But it's fun!

>182 streamsong: Thank you Janet! I love the pictures of your place when you post them especially your beautiful horses. Underland has quite the environmental undertones so I do think you would like it!

>183 charl08: Hi Charlotte. Thanks for the heads up about the swimming book. Have just been corresponding with the pool admin and it looks like no opening of the pool for the fall. Kind of upset about this!

>184 msf59: Moss Mary reporting in Mark. Hope that you are having a good week! Can you find some moss in Chicago?

186vancouverdeb
Jul 9, 6:02pm Top

Oh, that sounds lovely, Mary! We have a 15- 30 minute slot to visit our granddaughter tomorrow. Our son and daughter in law take the pandemic concerns really seriously and so we can only see Melissa outside , and only briefly . I must admit I think that they are carrying things to far, but you know, it's their gig. Sounds fabulous to have your granddaughter visiting and I can well imagine that you have no time to read. Enjoy!

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