Flagged covers showing as a default cover on voting page

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Flagged covers showing as a default cover on voting page

1zombiecat
Apr 2, 2024, 6:21 pm

I'm not sure if this should go in bug collecting or here.

When voting on cover flags, quite a few default covers show. (Theyre always the same red one for me) Initially I assumed the image had already been removed or something. But I just noticed it with a cover I flagged, and the cover still appears on the work page. The flagged cover is one of those generic covers generated by the bookseller, if that makes a difference. It looks like another persons flags for generic covers on the work are also showing as the default cover.

The works in question are Three by Flannery O'Connor: Wise Blood, A Good Man Is Hard to Find, The Violent Bear It Away and Three by Flannery O'Connor: The Violent Bear It Away, Everything That Rises Must Converge, Wise Blood, but I'm guessing the same thing is happening to other books. (I'm using the Firefox mobile and desktop browsers)

2gilroy
Apr 2, 2024, 8:47 pm

I'm not seeing any blank default covers when I look at the works you've listed.
Do you have these books in your library? Have you not selected an active cover, so it's showing your default selection?
(Since you have a private cover, I can't check on those questions myself.)

3zombiecat
Apr 2, 2024, 9:08 pm

>2 gilroy: Sorry if I wasn't clear. This is what I mean by generic covers. Ones generated by the book seller that the cover was sourced from. (Other people flag them as not covers, so I did as well. Let me know if that's not correct)
And this is what I'm seeing on the cover flag voting page. This cover is one of the generic ones I flagged, but it shows as a LT default cover:

4Nicole_VanK
Edited: Apr 3, 2024, 5:13 am

Yes, it is frustrating that those don't render as such on the voting page.

ETA : they even say they're not an actual cover. So I don't think it's wrong to flag them as such. (But I will stop doing so if staff decides otherwise.)

5gilroy
Apr 3, 2024, 5:28 am

>3 zombiecat: Ah, if it shows that on the voting page, I want to say someone did some separating and those covers are no longer valid at the selected link. Which then makes them a no vote because the default cover is still a cover.

6Nicole_VanK
Edited: Apr 3, 2024, 6:52 am

>5 gilroy: Essentially no! Somehow they simply don't render on the voting page (and get replaced by the default cover there) even while they are there when you check the available covers on the work page.

ETA : personally I consider that a bug.

7gilroy
Apr 3, 2024, 6:49 pm

>6 Nicole_VanK: Um, okay, so I didn't include "Mostly, this happens when" because this is the phenomenon 90% of the time.

8AranelST
Edited: Mar 7, 2025, 10:20 am

Oh! This happens to me all the time. Sometimes fully half the covers on the cover voting page are the default cover. This makes it really hard to vote, because I can't tell what I am voting on. But if I go to the work page and look through the covers, usually I can find the actual cover, which can be anything (it doesn't have to be one of those annoying general "this is not a cover" images, and it isn't a sign that the cover has already been separated or removed).

Is everyone else not getting this? I thought it was just a standard problem. If it is happening like this for just about everyone, it would go a long way toward explaining why so many obviously incorrect covers don't get any (or enough) confirming votes.

Edit: Here is an example of what I generally see. Presumably, some people can see the actual correct images, since they appear to be voting on them.

9eclbates
Edited: Mar 7, 2025, 2:32 pm

>8 AranelST: Woah nelly, I've been voting on all of those assuming the blank cover is the image I'm voting on. Time to review some votes! 😬

10Petroglyph
Mar 7, 2025, 6:56 pm

>8 AranelST: "Sometimes fully half the covers on the cover voting page are the default cover"

Oh yes, very much so

11librisissimo
Oct 8, 2025, 12:21 pm

I am using the "default" generic covers to liven up some records I use for preserving my notes to myself on how I tag my LT books (Collection is "Bookkeeping").
I am comfused by what the voting choices even mean.
"Not a cover" - does YES mean "this is not really a cover for any book" or "this is not a cover applicable to this particular book for which it is being used" or something different?

Since I want to use that kind of cover on my pseudo-book records, should I vote NO to keep it attached to my book, in case anybody was concerned about it??

I don't understand the Spam voting either.
I assume some hackers enjoy dumping stupid or offensive covers into the mix and those need to be removed (a YES vote?).

Is this kind of information included in some Talk group or somewhere that I have missed?

signed: Happy LT user since 2009 ;)

12Charon07
Oct 8, 2025, 2:28 pm

>11 librisissimo: Here’s the Wiki Help page on cover flagging, which also explains that ‘Voting is done by selecting "Yes", "No", or "Undecided". Note that you are voting to indicate whether you agree with the flag. So for Not a Cover, voting "Yes" indicates "Yes the flag is correct, this is not a cover".’

https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/HelpThing:Helpers_covers

Flagging won’t affect the covers you use in your own library. It just prevents that cover from being offered to other users when they add or change the cover.

13librisissimo
Oct 8, 2025, 6:53 pm

>12 Charon07: Thank you so much for that clarification and the link!

14AranelST
Nov 17, 2025, 8:03 pm

Is this a known issue that there is some effort to fix, or do we need to report it as a bug?

Cover flag voters are already struggling to keep up, and this is making it much slower and more difficult than necessary.

Especially for "not a cover" flags, most of the time it is really easy to vote if you can see what you are voting on. But, it goes from 2 seconds to 2-20 minutes if the dreaded red default cover loads instead, and sometimes after all that I still can't find it.