Which Kafka Next?

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1Nickelini
May 27, 2009, 2:08 am

Inspired by somebody's post somewhere on LT (on the Onion's piece on the Kafka International Airport), I feel like reading more Kafka. I've read The Trial and Metamorphosis, and a bunch of other short stories. What is the next essential Kafka read?

2Irieisa
Edited: May 27, 2009, 2:32 am

Aside from the remaining short stories, you could tackle Amerika and The Castle. I'm not sure which you'd want to read first.

3Nickelini
Edited: May 27, 2009, 2:52 am

I guess there isn't much else . . . ? Well, that's not a lot of books. Kinda a silly question, now that I think about it (even though LT lists 250-ish works for him). Okay, Amerika sounds kinda weird. One, he doesn't even know how to spell the name of the continent? country?, and, two, I know enough to know he never did go there. So that one couldn't be any good. I guess that leaves the Castle?

4inaudible
Edited: May 27, 2009, 10:01 am

The Castle is magnificent.

There is also a book of his aphorisms, as well as a few published collections of his letters.

5CliffBurns
May 27, 2009, 10:53 am

A couple of years ago I saw a fringe production of "Kafka and Son", which was a one-man show based on the famous letter Kafka wrote to his father. I was quite impressed by the performance and the author's fraught relationship with his pere.

There's undoubtedly a KAFKA READER or something to that effect--perhaps that would provide a better overview to his body of work. Anyone know of a good biography?

I know an English prof who firmly states Kafka's full-length stuff is well nigh unreadable, it's only his short fiction that's worth seeking out.

But, of course, the best thing to do is to read the dude and see for yourself.

Note: I have a copy of Orson Welles' adaptation of THE TRIAL, starring Anthony Perkins, but have yet to watch it...

6inaudible
May 27, 2009, 11:48 am

The Tremendous World I Have Inside My Head by Begley is supposed to be the best Kafka biography. The biography by Brod is apparently not so good.

I recently got the book Kafka's Last Love, but I have not read it yet.

7rare_bird
Edited: May 27, 2009, 12:03 pm

Kafka's The Penal Colony had a huge effect on me in grade 9. I didn't even know who the author was, and it took me 13 years before I finally stumbled upon it in a collection of short works. By then I knew who Kafka was, and when I found out he was the author I had to slap my head, "Of COURSE he wrote that! Who else could?"

If you can find it, I highly suggest it, although it is quite disturbing!

8rare_bird
May 27, 2009, 12:03 pm

That's funny, the touchstone didn't work for "The Penal Colony"...

9CliffBurns
Edited: May 27, 2009, 12:08 pm

PENAL COLONY

Sometimes just taking out the article helps...

Er...or not...

Jesus, that's weird.

10LolaWalser
May 27, 2009, 1:01 pm

Kafka wrote in German, in which language "America" is, indeed, Amerika. So you ought to ask why the translators chose to leave it in that form, not whether "he doesn't even know how to spell the name of the continent? country?". In fact, one could posit that someone who doesn't realise a name may have different forms in different languages, is too dumb and/or uninformed to read Kafka.

11Irieisa
Edited: May 27, 2009, 1:23 pm

>3 Nickelini: - Erm... You DO realize that 'Amerika' is not the title Kafka gave to it, right? Even if he had chosen it, what does it matter?

As for him not going there, considering that it's Kafka, I don't see how that matters at all, either. His writing is, in short, surreal, so even if he had gone there it wouldn't make much difference. It isn't as if he went to all the places portrayed in his other writings.

To judge Amerika by the title his literary executor chose and by whether or not he went there is ludicrous.

12Nickelini
Edited: May 27, 2009, 1:26 pm

It was a JOKE people! Humour is subjective, and I'm obviously playing to the wrong crowd. Yikes.

13Irieisa
Edited: May 27, 2009, 1:29 pm

>12 Nickelini: - On the internet, jokes need to be made very clear. Sometimes I thought (or hoped) people were joking, but it turned out they were not. Awkward.

14CliffBurns
May 27, 2009, 1:43 pm

Thus the invention of those moronic emoticons.

15semckibbin
May 27, 2009, 2:22 pm

If it aids communication its not moronic. ;)

16emaestra
May 27, 2009, 2:53 pm

I also think emoticons are moronic, but they sure do come in handy. Yesterday I sent my husband a link to pmsbuddy.com - as a joke - but I forgot the goofy smiley guy. Just to be on the safe side, in case I was serious, he signed up. Now I feel silly.

17inaudible
May 27, 2009, 3:51 pm

15> That would be "it's".

18semckibbin
May 27, 2009, 4:44 pm

17: Good pickup! :)

If it aids communication it is not moronic. ;)

Much better, thanks!

19inaudible
May 27, 2009, 6:00 pm

Cheers!

20geneg
May 27, 2009, 6:33 pm

The best humour is that which works whether it is understood as humour or not. Jokes that need explaining are not worth making.

21semckibbin
Edited: May 27, 2009, 6:38 pm

Humor has a shelf life, too. A lot of Shakespeare's jokes need explaining (to us), but they were still worth making.

22Irieisa
May 27, 2009, 8:12 pm

>20 geneg: - But if one is going to make the joke anyway, it's best for it to be clear, correct?

23armandine2
May 30, 2009, 6:54 pm

I read the great wall of china last year and now can't remember what it was about. I guess that's the trouble with short stories (or old age).

24kswolff
May 30, 2009, 10:57 pm

R. Crumb wrote a graphic novel about Kafka.

25CliffBurns
May 31, 2009, 9:36 am

KAFKA FUCK

Once back at my place she plays it coy scuttling under the couch until I menace her with a can of Raid using it to steer her toward the bedroom antennae twitching in excitement crawling up the edge of my bedspread chittering as I run my fingers along her polished carapace rubbing her thorax while her withered ornamental wings flutter mandibles dug into my pillow in insectile ecstasy as I mount her probing for anything resembling a vagina wondering if she uses protection and if not if the pupa will look anything like me.

**********************

Couldn't resist. This prose poem is from a chapbook I put together back in the early 90's. I was heavily influenced by the surrealist notion of "automatic writing", just putting pen to paper, no pre-planning, bypassing the logic circuits and going directly to the un/subconscious. It's a tactic I employ to deal with writer's block to this very day...

26Irieisa
May 31, 2009, 9:54 am

27bobmcconnaughey
Edited: May 31, 2009, 3:22 pm

"it's"/ "its" and "there/their" are the two commonest mistakes i make typing- i only notice my error ~ 50% of the time.

ed. to correct tense error

28kswolff
May 31, 2009, 1:25 pm

25: Once you go to cockroaches, you never go back.

29CliffBurns
May 31, 2009, 1:31 pm

And, y'know, some people shy away from depictions of inter-species sex...

30kswolff
May 31, 2009, 1:44 pm

**Insert joke about the Red States**

Where the men are men and the sheep run scared.

Set and spike.

31armandine2
Mar 2, 2010, 1:34 pm

24.....I'd assumed he'd drawn the pictures and the other guy wrote it.

33geneg
Mar 2, 2010, 4:37 pm

How about The Zombie Metamorphosis? Or The Trial: How to negate the Zombie Metamorphosis Strategy in Court. I hear this last is a must read for lawyers who just aren't satisfied with the law and feel the need to muck about in it.

34armandine2
Mar 12, 2010, 5:32 am

Does Kafka have to have a home in
a) A German University
b) A Swiss bank vault
c) The State of Israel

35inaudible
Mar 12, 2010, 9:17 am

Yes?

36CliffBurns
Mar 12, 2010, 9:52 am

#34:

None of the above.

His work belongs to the collective consciousness of humanity.

37armandine2
Mar 12, 2010, 10:31 am

....like my fridge.

38hollyness
Mar 12, 2010, 12:49 pm

The Castle was really good as long as you understand what's going on. I had a friend of mine try to read it and she returned it the next day. (It was quote "lame").
(Sigh)
The Castle is really quite amazing though so I wish you luck.

39bobmcconnaughey
Mar 12, 2010, 10:32 pm

Kafka Americana - seriously, i enjoyed it a lot.

40bencritchley
Mar 15, 2010, 8:06 pm

Ein Landarzt (translated as various permutations of a country doctor) is one that's stayed with me for a long time. I'd recommend a collected short fiction, if such a thing exists in English - I think it's his best work, the short stuff.

41kswolff
Mar 15, 2010, 8:21 pm

I'm reading Strange Days Indeed by Francis Wheen. It's about the Kafkaesque 70s and "the Golden Age of Paranoia." Darkly comedic, gleefully paranoid, and on the verge of going off its nut, ah ... the Seventies.

42CliffBurns
Mar 16, 2010, 1:11 pm

Finally laid my hands on Roland Topor's novel THE TENANT (made into a brilliant Polanski film). If THE TENANT ain't Kafka-esque, I dunno what is...

43inaudible
Mar 16, 2010, 2:51 pm

40> Schocken has a collection of his complete short stories. It really ought to be next to the bed of every reader.

44susanbooks
Mar 20, 2010, 2:14 am

43: I'm a huge Kafka fan, but next to the bed? I don't want to begin to imagine the dreams "Penal Colony" would give me!